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OK, so like nearly everyone else on this forum, I'll be first in line for an EVO. This is a beast of a phone, nothing like it (state-side anyway). How long do you think this will last?
What device will leave the EVO in the dust? How long will it's reign last?
Because of the required spec's, I would think that Windows Phone 7 devices will likely be the first to smoke it, specs-wise. However, it seems MS went all Apple-walled-garden with 7, so I don't see WP7 beating this anytime soon. Considering the state of the Windows Marketplace vs Android, I say no competition.
Apple's new iPhone will surely be amazing, software-wise. But again, the walled-garden approach will leave it behind.
Finally, AT&T and Verizon seem at least one year behind Sprint in 4g deployments.
Ideas?
khov07 said:
OK, so like nearly everyone else on this forum, I'll be first in line for an EVO. This is a beast of a phone, nothing like it (state-side anyway). How long do you think this will last?
What device will leave the EVO in the dust? How long will it's reign last?
Because of the required spec's, I would think that Windows Phone 7 devices will likely be the first to smoke it, specs-wise. However, it seems MS went all Apple-walled-garden with 7, so I don't see WP7 beating this anytime soon. Considering the state of the Windows Marketplace vs Android, I say no competition.
Apple's new iPhone will surely be amazing, software-wise. But again, the walled-garden approach will leave it behind.
Finally, AT&T and Verizon seem at least one year behind Sprint in 4g deployments.
Ideas?
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I say 6 months? At least before a significant development, like dualcore processors.
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I say 6 months? At least before a significant development, like dualcore processors.
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Dual core processors are extremely unlikely for at least a year or two. Not only would it make phones that much more expensive to produce, but today's battery technology simply hasn't caught up to the major advances in processor technology. Batteries are struggling to power a single core processor to this very day; said batteries couldn't dream of powering a dual-core phone for any reasonable length of time.
In any case, if the Evo is going to be beaten by another phone, it won't be for a while. The only things that could take it over are the new Snapdragon 1.5 Ghz and Intel Moorestown 1.5 Ghz processors coming later this year. There's absolutely no way a bigger screen size could be even considered, since the Evo is pushing it already. A 4.3 inch AMOLED screen would be quite nice, but not enough on its own to replace the Evo.
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Dual core processors are extremely unlikely for at least a year or two. Not only would it make phones that much more expensive to produce, but today's battery technology simply hasn't caught up to the major advances in processor technology. Batteries are struggling to power a single core processor to this very day; said batteries couldn't dream of powering a dual-core phone for any reasonable length of time.
In any case, if the Evo is going to be beaten by another phone, it won't be for a while. The only things that could take it over are the new Snapdragon 1.5 Ghz and Intel Moorestown 1.5 Ghz processors coming later this year. There's absolutely no way a bigger screen size could be even considered, since the Evo is pushing it already. A 4.3 inch AMOLED screen would be quite nice, but not enough on its own to replace the Evo.
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its actually a 4.3 TFT screen.
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its actually a 4.3 TFT screen.
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Which is why he wasn't talking about the EVO
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Which is why he wasn't talking about the EVO
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yep. very true. my mistake lol, i havent slept today yet.
nope, not CPU's
I agree with the above comments, dual-core CPU's won't become prevalent in mobile devices until batteries improve significantly.
My guess is devices with discrete graphics boards, like the iPhone (has had for years now!), will trump EVO, though only for gaming purposes. I'll stick with a PSP for mobile gaming.
Besides, a 1Ghz+ processor should easily handle any video you can toss at it. My TP2 with a 526 Mhz processor + CorePlayer handles movies saved on my SD card just fine, full-screen.
Maybe truly integrated video calling? Not through a third-party app like Qik, or even Skype (though Skype on the EVO would be awesome), but an actual native function/app on the device. Instead of dialing a username, just dial a number, and if the device is video-capable, you get an option on the screen to answer with voice or video.
It will depend on far to many factors to quantify.
Doo you dig the big display? For those that do perhaps the only devices they will look for in the future will be 4 inch plus in size. Depending on how the evo and hd2 sell we may see many more our we may see less.
Those that want a physical keyboard may not even feel the evo is a contender and may wait for a galaxy s pro to fill their super phone.
The integrated graphics are inferior to the ipwn so those that want 3d gaming will feel the draw of that device or wait for the rumored psp phone.
Processor speed will be trumped probably by the iphone hd and if not then shortly after. The difference will be miniscule but it will get trumped.
storage? Android had lagged most other device for a long time with it's reliance on sd cards hopefully froyo will get more onboard memory like the iphone.
So it will depend on peoples needs as to when the evo gets trumped. For many the evo is far from the best device for them. For many it is totally drool worthy.
Hardware wise, this phone will be hard to beat in the immediate future. From what I understand is that Sprint allows users to upgrade after 1 year (if applicable) so that could be nice.
Only thing I am worried about is getting root or getting 2.2 in a timely fashion. Being a G1 user I haven't had to worry about it since rooting came pretty fast which has allowed me to install pretty much any ROM out there, not having to worry about when I am going to get 1.5 or 1.6 or whatever. I have read on how the Droid or Hero took a couple of months to get 2.1, they get it and then 2.2 is announced. Gingerbread is confirmed to be released sometime Q4 2010, I would hate to get 2.2 right when Gingerbread is announced. I will rage.
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edit: I don't believe the A4 is faster than Snapdragon. I think the test results that are out there is due to the fact that Apple OS is a closed system, it also doesn't multitask. Because it can load pages faster, doesn't mean it is better technically. Until it can be tested on a neutral OS (which won't ever happen), it will never be a good benchmark to compare the two.
christmas some one will release a phone for the holiday rush. its gotta happen. my guess is at&t its probably there turn for the xmas phone of the year.
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I agree with the above comments, dual-core CPU's won't become prevalent in mobile devices until batteries improve significantly.
My guess is devices with discrete graphics boards, like the iPhone (has had for years now!), will trump EVO, though only for gaming purposes. I'll stick with a PSP for mobile gaming.
Besides, a 1Ghz+ processor should easily handle any video you can toss at it. My TP2 with a 526 Mhz processor + CorePlayer handles movies saved on my SD card just fine, full-screen.
Maybe truly integrated video calling? Not through a third-party app like Qik, or even Skype (though Skype on the EVO would be awesome), but an actual native function/app on the device. Instead of dialing a username, just dial a number, and if the device is video-capable, you get an option on the screen to answer with voice or video.
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the SnapDragon dual core processors are more efficient then their single core variants we use now since they use a smaller manufacturing process. find the source yourself, i'm not working that hard.
Hmmm...a source link for that info?
Doesn't matter though - most apps on PC's don't make very good use of multiple cores, and we've had those on desktops for many years now. Will mobile app developers make better use of them, once multi-core mobile devices become prevalent? Some might, others will ignore.
Think about it: what kind of cpu-intensive apps will we run on a mobile platform, that will benefit from multiple cores? No doubt mobile processors will continue to get faster, more cores, more cache, etc., but how much will we really do on a mobile device?
Question: why wouldn't mobile processors top-out the way desktop processors have? Folks can run the same basic apps on today's desktops (word processing, web browsing, email, etc.) as they can on desktops four years old.
Perhaps, as crazytalk states, the real developments in mobile processors will be focus more on efficiency than raw speed.
What say you?
Actually, I would say October, not Christmas. Christmas is usually too hectic for companies to release brand new flagship devices which is what would be needed to supercede the Evo. And I do see a dual core phone coming out around October. I think something is going to surprise everyone in October but that's expected. 6 months is sadly the shelf life for phones these days.
So I am interested what do you think. Is 2gb of ram enough to avoid any lagg?
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For average smartphone user like my mom, father or my brother yes. Its more than enough. My mother has LWP, some widgets, almost all stock even Samsung launcher. she's using phone for texting, learning, web browsing... in her phone she has only 768mb RAM on phone alavaible, 200-300 free no lag. She is happy. But who someone who like to have TONS of widgets, launchers and other heavy apps somentimes I see small lag like 2 seconds. But I downloaded like 350-400 apps/games lots is running in background. So lag is my/bad apps fault, im sure of this. When I unistall those most RAM hungry I have 800 RAM free.
Time to delete some apps. I dont need 4 app monitors, 5 file organisers and so
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Hrm, the question isn't really 'is it okay today' because it's kind of okay right now, but in 12 months will it still be ok? I mean, if we're throwing a huge amount of cash dollars at this phone is it going to last 2 years?
I'd foresee no. Apps aren't lightweight anymore and their coders are exploiting the growth in power in the phones. I think in 12 months there will be some frustrating times making you wonder why they saved $4 a phone at manufacturing. And we know the answer is simple. If the phone was amazing, they wouldn't get away with 12 month new releases.
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For average smartphone user like my mom, father or my brother yes. Its more than enough. My mother has LWP, some widgets, almost all stock even Samsung launcher. she's using phone for texting, learning, web browsing... in her phone she has only 768mb RAM on phone alavaible, 200-300 free no lag. She is happy. But who someone who like to have TONS of widgets, launchers and other heavy apps somentimes I see small lag like 2 seconds. But I downloaded like 350-400 apps/games lots is running in background. So lag is my/bad apps fault, im sure of this. When I unistall those most RAM hungry I have 800 RAM free.
Time to delete some apps. I dont need 4 app monitors, 5 file organisers and so
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Same here, TW doesn't lag at all when not loaded with 300+ apps, but some people still live in 2011.
Lets see I had the GS3, GS4, GN2 and GN3 and of those devices only 1 had 3GB of RAM and ALL worked just fine for me. So to answer the 2GB of RAM issue you will be just fine. KitKat 4.4.2 is even more optimized and runs even better on lower RAM devices. About 18 months ago we only saw 1GB of RAM on devices and now we have 2-3GB of RAM so I don't see a problem.
No idea why people would have hundreds of apps on their devices. For me, I probably have 40-50 apps installed at any given time...and that's being pretty generous. 2GB will be more than enough for me.
This is kind of a trivial question. First there's the philosophy of trying to utilise as little RAM as possible, thus being efficient on both RAM and battery. Secondly there's the hunt for specs; we all want more and more RAM, more and more milliamps on that battery. That makes sense, more = better, but when you combine these 2 things, there is a limit on both. I don't even use 3GB of RAM on my pc (have 4). Not even photoshop uses that much (unless you are some crazy artist - but then you'd be using a workstation with 64GB of RAM).
TL;DR: 2GB will be enough until phones become desktop replacements.
RAM isn't the biggest reason why TW lags - the Note 3 has 3 gigs and it still has hiccups even when there's plenty of RAM available. TouchWiz is a horrible human creation that apart from a few aspects should not even exist. Sonys, HTCs and even LGs modern smartphones are virtually lag free even though they have their own skins just like Samsung.
So to answer the OPs question, no I don't think 2 or even 22 gigs of RAM would make the SGS5 lag free.
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RAM isn't the biggest reason why TW lags - the Note 3 has 3 gigs and it still has hiccups even when there's plenty of RAM available. TouchWiz is a horrible human creation that apart from a few aspects should not even exist. Sonys, HTCs and even LGs modern smartphones are virtually lag free even though they have their own skins just like Samsung.
So to answer the OPs question, no I don't think 2 or even 22 gigs of RAM would make the SGS5 lag free.
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You do know that it is Android 4.4.2 and a totally new Touch Wiz version, you can say nothing about how it performs before you have tested it unless you actually are psychic!
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you can say nothing about how it performs before you have tested it unless you actually are psychic!
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You are right about this. Based on Samsungs (or rather TouchWiz) track record I don't have high expectations though. I also seriously doubt they have completely rewritten TW, they have just changed some of the looks in it. And my point still stands - modern smartphones with modern processors and a relatively good amount of RAM should run Android fine without lag. If competition can do it, so can Samsung. If they lag with the same hardware that competition doesn't lag with, then there is something different in the software that differs from competitors e.g. skins, launchers etc.
Can't answer that yet nobody knows how the new TW will perform. One thing is for sure I will always replace the standard UI with either Apex or Nova Launcher.
I'm only using important apps because a smartphone to me is still a phone, so I hardly have any games, widgets or all that stuff installed but having said that more RAM can never be a bad thing, nobody knows what the future holds. When it comes down to more and more multitasking 3 GB should provide a smoother experience despite all the optimization.
I have owned the Galaxy S3, S4, Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy Note 3 and while I experience some lag on the S3 and Note 2, I didn't notice anything major on the S4 or Note 3 and maybe its just me, how I use it or I missed it. I think Samsung continues to improve on their UI and unless we ditch them as an OEM we are stuck with it. I do wish they would go stock Android like they do on the GPE and just put their added apps into it but that won't ever happen.
I have chosen my next phone and pre-ordered my accessories, the Galaxy S5 is what I will be getting, I like what Samsung does, what they offer and ultimately I am happy with their gear.
Just updated my Sprint S4 to 4.4.2 and there is no lag at all 110 apps installed. Blazing fast, looking forward to the same in the S5
Nice to hear. So I am buying s5 instead of z2 becouse I hate sony's design.
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Most of the phones today come with 2GB of RAM, the phablets come with 3GB perhaps due to the larger screen, more likely to have multiple windows open (dual apps) not sure why we the S5 doesn't have it. The G3 is supposed to have a 2k display which again is just a specs war thing. A 2k display is useless and unnecessary on a 5-6" display because it will require a much bigger battery just to match what it got last year.
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A 2k display is useless and unnecessary on a 5-6" display because it will require a much bigger battery just to match what it got last year.
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I saw an interview last fall from one of the manufacturers considering 2k screens and he said that they abandoned it at the time because the resolution difference resulted in a whopping 60% more battery consumption compared to a full HD screen.
I'll use the LG G2 as an example because it was considered quite long lasting. It had 3000 mAh, and to compare the G3 would need 4800. I'll repeat myself, 4800 mAh just to be on par with the G2. How many of you honestly think that's going to happen anytime soon? Even the massive phablets don't sport batterys even close to that capacity.
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I saw an interview last fall from one of the manufacturers considering 2k screens and he said that they abandoned it at the time because the resolution difference resulted in a whopping 60% more battery consumption compared to a full HD screen.
I'll use the LG G2 as an example because it was considered quite long lasting. It had 3000 mAh, and to compare the G3 would need 4800. I'll repeat myself, 4800 mAh just to be on par with the G2. How many of you honestly think that's going to happen anytime soon? Even the massive phablets don't sport batterys even close to that capacity.
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Well said. For me 1080p displays on a 5-6" screen work just fine for me, nothing against higher res dislays but lets not put them there for specs sake, do it because they offer something.
I will get the GS5 now and wait to see what the GN4 looks like in the fall and trade up or wait for the GS6 and trade up then.
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I saw an interview last fall from one of the manufacturers considering 2k screens and he said that they abandoned it at the time because the resolution difference resulted in a whopping 60% more battery consumption compared to a full HD screen.
I'll use the LG G2 as an example because it was considered quite long lasting. It had 3000 mAh, and to compare the G3 would need 4800. I'll repeat myself, 4800 mAh just to be on par with the G2. How many of you honestly think that's going to happen anytime soon? Even the massive phablets don't sport batterys even close to that capacity.
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Plus 1, 2k is overkill, way overkill. But smartphone displays can still improve at 1080p. For example Sony can have better viewing angles and colors, Samsung could use better whites... Things like that otherwise 1080p is great.
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Lets see I had the GS3, GS4, GN2 and GN3 and of those devices only 1 had 3GB of RAM and ALL worked just fine for me. So to answer the 2GB of RAM issue you will be just fine. KitKat 4.4.2 is even more optimized and runs even better on lower RAM devices. About 18 months ago we only saw 1GB of RAM on devices and now we have 2-3GB of RAM so I don't see a problem.
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I don't know what the point of lying is. Why do it? The GS3 is infamous for being laggy becuse of touchwiz. Mine was no different. For you to say there was none on yours is simply a falsehood.
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I don't know what the point of lying is. Why do it? The GS3 is infamous for being laggy becuse of touchwiz. Mine was no different. For you to say there was none on yours is simply a falsehood.
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The Gs3 didn't lag for me AT ALL. The S4 however did a lot.
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Don't get me wrong. I like Apple Devices too. I own a Mac Air, AppleTV, etc. but all this hype and a $349 phone has better stats? Yeah, it has 64-bit but really nothing else. I hope OPO remains successful because this is the way mobile needs to go in the States. We have crappy providers, with crappy costs, with no "real" competition. The only way to combat this is with non-subsidized phones. This goes also for the crappy "Edge" type programs too which are essentially up-charged subsidized phones for people who like to upgrade on a regular basis. Now I have a phone that is $349, as good as 3 newer "FLAGSHIP" phones and I am not commit to any carrier... hell, $349 will be the 2-year subsidized cost of the 64GB iPhone 6+.... I am sure tooo that ETF's will go up... mark my words... since essentially you could get a iPhone 6+ 64GB for $349 on contract... cancel for $375... That's $725 which is definitely less than the $849 non-contract sticker price... hell I might even sell some if old Big Red & Big Blue don't close that loop hole.... I am sure though they thought of it and watch if ETF's won't end up being tiered like data...
Yeah I admit it is a good looking phone. But I think it is funny that apple is finally getting 1080 res when android has "been there, done that" and is going QHD. Bottom line though..... Apple will be getting a lot of people back that went to android for the larger screen.
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Imo 64bit on a phone without at least 4gb of RAM is just plain dumb.
I love android, and I love my one, but I'm going back to the iPhone, something about it, idk. I just like it.
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Imo 64bit on a phone without at least 4gb of RAM is just plain dumb.
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Supposedly you need at least 3gb to notice anything at all.
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Supposedly you need at least 3gb to notice anything at all.
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Imo 64bit on a phone without at least 4gb of RAM is just plain dumb.
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you guys should read that
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-64-bit-processors-really-matter-android
Qoute from the Author "And for heaven's sake — stop saying the big deal about 64-bit hardware is the ability to use more than 4GB of RAM."
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you guys should read that
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-64-bit-processors-really-matter-android
Qoute from the Author "And for heaven's sake — stop saying the big deal about 64-bit hardware is the ability to use more than 4GB of RAM."
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I know what I'm talking about. I never said it was bad, I'm saying its just not feasible.
A 64bit architecture utilizes memory more efficiently and more extensively, hence running with more RAM would be more favourable with a 64bit architecture.
Being dumb doesn't mean that I'm saying IT must have at least 4gb RAM, I said in my opinion, I would rather have more RAM with 64bit than 1gb RAM Apple provides. Also I would rather have a computer with 4gb RAM using 64 bit and not 512mb RAM using 64bit.
There's a difference between myself and the link you sent me, I'm not saying you need 64bit to run 4gb RAM, I'm saying running 64bit on 1gb is just "what's the point?".
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I know what I'm talking about. I never said it was bad, I'm saying its just not feasible.
A 64bit architecture utilizes memory more efficiently and more extensively, hence running with more RAM would be more favourable with a 64bit architecture.
Being dumb doesn't mean that I'm saying IT must have at least 4gb RAM, I said in my opinion, I would rather have more RAM with 64bit than 1gb RAM Apple provides. Also I would rather have a computer with 4gb RAM using 64 bit and not 512mb RAM using 64bit.
There's a difference between myself and the link you sent me, I'm not saying you need 64bit to run 4gb RAM, I'm saying running 64bit on 1gb is just "what's the point?".
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Hm well the link explains "what´s the point?".
But i agree with you about the rest
I changed my iPhone 5s to OPO few months ago, and after presentation iPhone 6 I'm still thinking that it was good idea! :laugh:
since at least iphone 4s apple just runs after the android devices in specs and features.
i cannot imagine a point why to buy apple at this time.
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since at least iphone 4s apple just runs after the android devices in specs and features.
i cannot imagine a point why to buy apple at this time.
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100% agreed! I mean if apple can sue Samsung for billions of dollars why can't Samsung/HTC/Motorola/LG strike back? I'm still waiting for that to happen! Apple is annoying and ignorantly expensive!
As I was watching the Live Blog for Apple's event yesterday every time they said something I found myself saying "Yep...already have that..." In most cases they're features I've had for for over 2 years since I jumped ship from Apple. One of my friends was shocked that I've had NFC payments for the last 2 years with Google Wallet. "But but but you can't use it anywhere like iPay!" "....Yes... I can and have... NFC is NFC. If it has it both devices will work there...". He was trying to say iPay was more secure as his phone is locked and can be unlocked with his thumb. I go "MY FACE can unlock my phone...". When I saw the new Keyboard being demonstrated I literally help up SwiftKey keyboard I had installed and it was identical.
Last years iPhone5S I expected no real new features. They added the thumb print reader. But it was a refresh year. The iPhone6 and iPhone6 Plus are supposed to be leading products with new features... and everything "new" was a direct rip that Android has been doing for in most cases up to 2 years. It's sad to see Apple loose their innovation where they used to be the leaders.
The only thing I was impressed with was the Camera and display quality. I'll start with the display. Low PPI and resolution aside it is a improvement. Full RGB support means colors will pop a lot better. However unsure of what they say vs what it really looks like. So far, even though I now hate Samsung phones, my Galaxy S4 had the best color quality with its AMOLED screen. The Camera. So far I've had Galaxy S4, Nexus 5, and OnePlus for Android devices. My Nexus 5 was on par with my iPhone 4S, shot the same quality pictures with the same ease of use. The Galaxy S4 was horrible and a step far down from my iPhone 4S. The OnePlus camera is mixed. At times I get better quality shots than the Nexus 5 I had, but half the time they're worse. Under different shooting conditions everything changes. The optics and image stablzation and such they toot in the new iPhone6 makes me think they have made a even larger step forward with their cameras. Their Camera app also is AMAZING and very fined tuned to adjust the camera focus, aperture, and such automatically for you so you get great shots consistently, something I see lacking in many Android camera apps.. they simply don't adjust as fast to lighting conditions and such as iOS Camera app.
Anyway just my .02
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you guys should read that
http://www.androidcentral.com/why-64-bit-processors-really-matter-android
Qoute from the Author "And for heaven's sake — stop saying the big deal about 64-bit hardware is the ability to use more than 4GB of RAM."
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Although this article does touch on additional benefits of 64 bit architecture, It's primary focus seems to me to be more about the new features of the new ARMv8 architecture. I would argue that many of the new features of the ARMv8 are not 64bit specific and could also be included in a 32bit chip.
For Android, the story is not simply 64-bit, but really more about the new ARMv8 Architecture. In addition to enabling 64-bit applications, ARMv8 brings a host of improvements in power efficiency as well as performance that have a direct and significant impact on nearly every 32-bit Android application in the market today.
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In fact, the article mentions only two benefits that are 64 bit specific.
they afford higher performance for applications coded to use the 64-bit features, and larger memory addressing for the operating system and multiple applications.
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So in summary,
Without 64 bit software, the only added benefit to 64bit is larger memory addressing. There are additional benefits that will come with a new ARMv8 spec but they could be implemented in a 32 bit chip as well.
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He was trying to say iPay was more secure as his phone is locked and can be unlocked with his thumb. I go "MY FACE can unlock my phone...". When I saw the new Keyboard being demonstrated I literally help up SwiftKey keyboard I had installed and it was identical.
Last years iPhone5S I expected no real new features. They added the thumb print reader. But it was a refresh year. The iPhone6 and iPhone6 Plus are supposed to be leading products with new features... and everything "new" was a direct rip that Android has been doing for in most cases up to 2 years. It's sad to see Apple loose their innovation where they used to be the leaders.
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Anyway just my .02
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It's typical, they add new to the iPhone features and tout them as groundbreaking. My 3 1/2 yr old Motorola Atrix 4g had a fingerprint reader to unlock the phone............. Apple releases TouchID and the fingerprint scanner last year and suddenly what's old is new again.
They do make sexy devices, just wish they weren't locked down, expensive and tied to a bloated piece of [email protected] software called itunes.
Well I personally don't have any Apple products, mainly because it was always an arm's length out of my price range, I'd have to say that I disagree with everyone here.
Well, mainly the ones bashing the company and it's choices.
Even though the biggest difference in terms of hardware is the processor being 64 bit rather than our 32 bit systems, I'd have to say Apple has a pretty solid build and standard. Granted that EVERY company has their flaws, I'd have to applaud Apple this time around.
Now, for the part where someone said "Oh 64bit processor without at least 4gb ram, that's dumb!"
Not quite. Apple's optimization is off the charts. Scary good actually. The 5s had 1gb of ram, and my old Amaze 4g had 1gb of ram. The 5s had a duo core 1.3ghz processor, my Amaze had a duo core 1.5ghz (O/C'd to 1.7ghz) processor.
Needless to say the iPhone was faster and more fluent in ALL of the tasks as compared to my phone which lagged and stuttered here and there.
It's all about optimization when it comes to Apple.
If I didn't have a OnePlus One and if I were a rich man, I'd definitely get myself an iPhone 6.
You (and the author) are confusing "64 bit" with other things like "more registers". Yes, the ARM processors that deliver 64 bit generally include OTHER advances that are actually nice, but 64 bit itself is a separable aspect of the design. Without knowing many of the details of the A8 processor, we can't say if any of these advances are actually present (or used). As such, you shouldn't translate the comments about "64 bit" with any other improvements that went into the chip design Apple is using.
That said, I can't seem to find any reliable statement on memory in the iphone 6, although many sources say it is still limited to 1GB of RAM. If so, it seems that the biggest changes are the new A8 SoC, screen size and onboard storage (option). Even the 64 bit capable chip isn't stated as being run as 64 bit, and for compatibility with most apps, it likely is still running as a 32 bit chip.
If the iPhone 6 plus 64gb costs less, I would use it, but at this price, triple the price of a OnePlus no.
I used an iPhone 5 for a couple of days as my primary device, love the ecosystem, everything just works, most apps I need are there and work fine, but I was unable to support the small screen size and the fixed single keyboard option. now with the bigger screens and with iOS 8 keyboard feature I can use one.
Currently on my Android device, I have at least 10 apps related to root/backup/kernel/etc, with iOS i don't need to bother about those stuff, iCloud backs up all apps, no need for kernels, cpu managers, root, and it just works.... but this comes at a cost: MUCH MORE $$$s
The talks about the new line of iPhones with meager specs are so pointless. iOS doesnt need to run all these 4GB of ram and whatever specs you want to throw at it to run smooth. iOS is optimzed way better than android and personally I see android never running as smooth and seemless are iOS. I know some will say if you have a GPE device, yeah I been there and done that and they are smooth but its something about iOS thats the top of the food chain when it comes to optimization. I am avid Android person and I love all tech and all that was missing for me was a bigger screen and they have that now so I may find myself pre-oreding one tonight.
Yeah android has had these features for years (NFC) but out of the majority of people (im not talking about us because we are tech heads and know about all features!) honestly know about NFC and know the benefits of it? Since Apple has came out now and introduced NFC payments, it will be mainstreamed now and it will be known by everyone now. Its sad the way that will work but it is what it is.
If you are a true tech head like myself then you have to know and respect both platforms and know that iOS is a premium OS where everything works and you know you have a reliable device, sad to say I cant say that about all android phones. They are getting better but even though they have killer specs when compared to the iPhone, Android is still behind...
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The talks about the new line of iPhones with meager specs are so pointless. iOS doesnt need to run all these 4GB of ram and whatever specs you want to throw at it to run smooth. iOS is optimzed way better than android and personally I see android never running as smooth and seemless are iOS. I know some will say if you have a GPE device, yeah I been there and done that and they are smooth but its something about iOS thats the top of the food chain when it comes to optimization. I am avid Android person and I love all tech and all that was missing for me was a bigger screen and they have that now so I may find myself pre-oreding one tonight.
Yeah android has had these features for years (NFC) but out of the majority of people (im not talking about us because we are tech heads and know about all features!) honestly know about NFC and know the benefits of it? Since Apple has came out now and introduced NFC payments, it will be mainstreamed now and it will be known by everyone now. Its sad the way that will work but it is what it is.
If you are a true tech head like myself then you have to know and respect both platforms and know that iOS is a premium OS where everything works and you know you have a reliable device, sad to say I cant say that about all android phones. They are getting better but even though they have killer specs when compared to the iPhone, Android is still behind...
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I agree with singer of what you said but android is open source and there is no "ecosystem"control. With iOS the system is designed for one device using only approved hardware. It's much easier to control the look and feel and performance of an OS when it's designed for one set of devices.
I can't stand iOS but that's because it's too simplified and childish in my opinion.
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Now, for the part where someone said "Oh 64bit processor without at least 4gb ram, that's dumb!"
Not quite. Apple's optimization is off the charts. Scary good actually. The 5s had 1gb of ram, and my old Amaze 4g had 1gb of ram. The 5s had a duo core 1.3ghz processor, my Amaze had a duo core 1.5ghz (O/C'd to 1.7ghz) processor.
Needless to say the iPhone was faster and more fluent in ALL of the tasks as compared to my phone which lagged and stuttered here and there.
It's all about optimization when it comes to Apple.
If I didn't have a OnePlus One and if I were a rich man, I'd definitely get myself an iPhone 6.
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No offence but Apple's optimization really is off the charts. It's total ****. Have you tried running Mac OS X 64bit on a 1gb computer? Kernel tasks rack up the computer's processor and RAM so quickly I get stuck on 8mb RAM left. I removed Mac OS X on my computer and kept it with 100% Windows.
Now let's forget about computer software and talk mobile software. The fact that you're introducing 64 bit on a phone that you didn't change in terms of specs, especially the RAM, think about it, dismissing the 64 bit-ness of this, if you were to load higher quality thumbnails and images to render the operating system due to a larger screen....remaining on 1GB of RAM won't help, as well as the 64 bit "optimizations" built in.
The only optimizations that were good, can't compare to an Android, where multitasking actually means multitasking. Apple's optimization is to deep sleep an app when you try to multitask, and that's not optimizing back in the day, to optimize means you make a certain action more efficient. If I can multitask the real way, and be optimized, as well as on the 64bit architecture, only Android will take advantage of this, because it has both the hardware and soon the software to take care of this. Or rather launching an app in 64 bit mode instead of 32bit mode, with sufficient RAM, your performance would be much better.
"Needless to say the iPhone was faster and more fluent in ALL of the tasks as compared to my phone which lagged and stuttered here and there." it is because of the natural interactive governor on the iPhone where the CPU anticipates the touching of the screen and racks up CPU to predict it. Google tried to mimic this but haven't succeeded until 4.3-4.4. Anticipating touch input is a nice touch, but if the iPhone ran on good Android-esque specs, that would be much better - that's all I'm saying.
I am considering moving from Note 4 to one of these. I think one of my bites into performance (particulary multitasking performance) is the 3GB of RAM.
Of course, this won't have all the bloatware as the Note, but then I have a lot of it 'disabled' anyway.
I'm assuming a lot here are Moto experienced, so thought I'd ask. Do you think 3GB would be enough? I have ~ 150 apps on my phone. Don't use for gaming. But on the road, I might have a car mode app running, GPS Navigation; Music streaming all simultaneously.
It'll be more than enough.
The Note 4 also has 3GB of Ram, so as far as memory goes, the Moto X should be "faster" since it also has less bloatware and a newer/better processor. Whether or not this will be true in reality is unknown, but all the evidence is pointing toward the Moto X Style thus far.
Wish it had 24 gigs @3600 Hz. With 1,000,000 mah ion battery. And 4k 3840 x 2160p full-array LED backlight. 24x camera zoom. Also SSD of 1 TB. Night vision aperture. And face and hand reader. Only be the size of 4.2" and weigh lighter than a piece of paper. So no 3 gigs is not enough.
It's all depends on how much the startup steals, i just read that the Note 5 is using over 2 GB just to get TW up and running.
So, in Motorolas case, its all good but not in Sammys
I think 3G should enough if you don't run any Samsung apps on it.
Yeah Samsung and their touchwiz is crap. One of the main reasons I am leaving Samsung and buying a Moto X.
3GB of RAM is plenty if you ask me. Its all about how well Motorola optimise it and I'm sure they will manage nicely.
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I'm sure 3gb will be enough for the moto x, it shouldn't have any bloat on it. My verizon S5 has a bunch of carrier bloat on it and only 2gb of ram and I can make it stall pretty hard just using the browser and streaming pandora.
5.1.1 fixes several of memory leaks that have been plaguing the android phones since kitkat (or even before) and early 5.0. So, Note4 is suffering from those bugs as well.
So, with 3GB of memory on X you should get an experience which is similar to 6GB on Note4 (if it had 6GB) which I presume does not run 5.1 yet. Accounting for the bloat that Samsung apps introduce.
I am running CM12.1 with 5.1.1 on Moto G (2014) and its much better than kitkat or 5.0 lollipop experience I had. It feels a whole different phone altogether.
Why wouldn't it be enough?
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Why wouldn't it be enough?
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Can't believe I'm agreein with an iPhone user [emoji6] ... Just kidding lol.
As an example you've only got 1GB on your iPhone 6 ... it goes to show its all about the software and not always about hardware.
RAM is over rated if you ask me. Crap software will be crap regardless of how much RAM a phone has or hasnt got. And hopefully Moto X doesnt dissapoint us like Samdung ... who have loads of RAM but their phones still lag like crazy.
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Why wouldn't it be enough?
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For the reason I stated in the quesiton...running lots of apps.
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Can't believe I'm agreein with an iPhone user [emoji6] ... Just kidding lol.
As an example you've only got 1GB on your iPhone 6 ... it goes to show its all about the software and not always about hardware.
RAM is over rated if you ask me. Crap software will be crap regardless of how much RAM a phone has or hasnt got. And hopefully Moto X doesnt dissapoint us like Samdung ... who have loads of RAM but their phones still lag like crazy.
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Actually, if I were able to root (I'm on AT&T, and unfortunately cannot), I could run an app that determines what loads when. But without that, it loads all kinds of apps even though I'm not using them. (Maybe I'm the only one, but I consider that a poor design/implementation of software management by Android). Add all those to the bloat, it does get laggy...especially if multitasking.
Generally using, it performs great. But just as one example of multitasking where I notice it very laggy: Going for a walk, tracking with MyTracks; playing music via BT headset; receive message...opening message very slow.
Having been a Samsung addict for a long time, I haven't experienced non-Samsung. So, wasn't sure about others. I always read users disparage of Samsung and it's software, but as noted I've always been able to get past that due to rooting, etc. But not any more.
So, I"m ready to move away from Samsung...but then feel I should get the most I can get. Don't want to move away to then be disappointed.
I"m pretty much convinced that 3GB will be fine...for now. But as time goes on, more and more useful apps will be coming out. I feel that 4GB will give me a certain amount of longer time to be able to stick with the phone, whichever one I get.
iPhones only need 1GB of ram to run smoothly without any lag
Android users complain 3GB is not enough............*sigh* -_-
@ewingr that doesn't make sense though. Until the Zenfone 2 all we knew was 3GB of ram and it has always been plenty especially for phone s that were running stock android, only phones that were "struggling" we're Samsung phone with the heavy touch wiz. The M8 with 2GB of ram had plenty of ram to spare. Now that 4GB is available all of a sudden 3GB becomes a concern.... I don't get it but ok.
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@ewingr that doesn't make sense though. Until the Zenfone 2 all we knew was 3GB of ram and it has always been plenty especially for phone s that were running stock android, only phones that were "struggling" we're Samsung phone with the heavy touch wiz. The M8 with 2GB of ram had plenty of ram to spare. Now that 4GB is available all of a sudden 3GB becomes a concern.... I don't get it but ok.
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All I can tell you is that is what I"m experiencing. Again...it may in fact be the TouchWiz as people complain about. (I use a different launcher...I really don't know how that plays into it).
But, ... The fact is in the end, I get short on RAM. When I flush it all, it operates faster. Given that, I don';t see how it can't make sense that 4GB over 3 GB would be better, and possibly necessary if running a lot of apps.
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iPhones only need 1GB of ram to run smoothly without any lag
Android users complain 3GB is not enough............*sigh* -_-
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Ram is about multitasking. Not sbout smoothness.
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All I can tell you is that is what I"m experiencing. Again...it may in fact be the TouchWiz as people complain about. (I use a different launcher...I really don't know how that plays into it).
But, ... The fact is in the end, I get short on RAM. When I flush it all, it operates faster. Given that, I don';t see how it can't make sense that 4GB over 3 GB would be better, and possibly necessary if running a lot of apps.
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Don't be afraid, man. When my nexus 4 was still alive I could throw anything at it, and it would never lag or eat up more than 1.3 GBs of RAM. And that was a 2012 phone.
Samsung just can't keep up with its own software, so they sell you their top of the line hardware, at high prices, to compensate for their inability to optimise. Moto and nexus are just a completely different world
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Ram is about multitasking. Not sbout smoothness.
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to a degree. it is about running multi applications at once but that also has an effect on smoothness. if the phone struggles to run multiple things it will not be smooth, that is simple. and the iphone has much much better code/software then android. 3 gb should be enough. my note 4 does not have any smoothness issues still running kitkat too i might add!
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to a degree. it is about running multi applications at once but that also has an effect on smoothness. if the phone struggles to run multiple things it will not be smooth, that is simple. and the iphone has much much better code/software then android. 3 gb should be enough. my note 4 does not have any smoothness issues still running kitkat too i might add!
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Don't really agree that iOS has better code than android. A lot of apps now have moved over to using something like apache cordova / nativescript and write one app (in JavaScriptl) which is then able to run on each platform. However, Apple has a better vetting process so in general, I've seen apps that have memory leak issues or are just plain bad when it comes to memory be not allowed to the store. Google's vetting process isn't as strict AFAIK - could be wrong - so there's that element to it.
So my status now is that I ordered T-Mobile Note 4 that I can root and rom. I'll try a less bloated ROM and see how it goes. That'll give time to get the new Moto Pure in, and Nexus phones in , and see how the reviews go. Maybe I'll be happy with the rooted Note 4.
I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it
The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.
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I've been using my Galaxy S4 for quite some time now. It's due to be replaced, and I've been following news about the Nexus 5X for a while, very much looking forward to it. And then the official specs came out... 2GB of RAM (same as my over two year old S4), max of 32GB of RAM.
The RAM I could probably live with in reality, but I'm not convinced of the 32GB. I added up the amount of storage I'm using now on my S4 combined internal and micro SD card, and plus the system ROM itself, that is going to add up very close to 32GB. I was really intending my next phone to be a 64GB.
I was hoping to keep something in the same size (closer to 5" than 6") instead of the "phablets". But this kind of threw a kink into those plans. Now I'm wondering if the 6P is actually the direction I go (or possibly a Moto X Pure). But I really don't want a phone that big, nor one that costs that much.
Am I missing something? Are there other smaller devices out there that have good/current generation specs? I was looking forward to the unlocked phone being carrier independent, that really puts a crimp in the options. Am trying to sort out my disappointment. I just feel, I don't know, like this is not at all the device I was hoping for.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
I'm really just going to watch many videos and full reviews of the 5X when the time comes; if I hear great things about it I might consider. Like someone said, I agree with Nexus 5 (2013) phones working great and buttery smooth even til now, so why wouldn't the new one?
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Sounds like you need Sony Z5 compact. However I will say I love my Moto X pure and once you get used to the size it is not bad. I started out with the S4, then G2 and swore that 5.2 is my limit, then moved to 5.5 and swore that was my limit and now I'm at 5.7 and love it. It is a lot smaller than the 6P so I recommend it
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I'll take a look at the Z5, that wasn't on my radar. Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, a couple people at work here are telling me that it is just a matter of getting used to the larger phone, that once I do I won't care anymore. I'm skeptical lol...
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The thing is the 2013 nexus 5 still feels as fast as any phone with google's android. Upping the processor but keeping the resolution means it will be even more capable. I mean it has 1080p but the same processor as the G4 which people feel is a great phone. It is going to run like a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it outperforms WQHD phones running the 810. Just backup your photos/videos and delete them from the phone once in awhile.
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Yeah, I've definitely heard how well the 2013 Nexus 5 kept up - and I guess that's what I was hoping for in the new phone, but it seems the specs are more oriented to "today", not "tomorrow". I think the processsor is fine, RAM I can live with, but that darn 32GB storage. Yikes.
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Hey man, I feel your pain. I cancelled my order of the 5X after contemplating for a while. It has the specs of the HTC One M7 I had two years ago. It's just unacceptable. If you're someone who has music stored on your phone, has MANY pictures, this might not be the phone for you. If you stream your music, use google photos (online), then you probably be OK with 32GB. 16GB is just a no no.
Like I told someone else in another thread, make a nandroid backup, have a couple ROMS loaded into your phone, you'll already have your storage full on your 16GB phone lol...
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This is the EXACT situation I find myself in on my Galaxy S4. Fortunately because of my SD card, that isn't an issue. Given that the Nexus doesn't offer that, it just seems like the 32GB will fill up very fast. I don't want to move to my new phone and then be fighting storage problems all over again in 6-12 months. Apps, etc are only getting larger and fancier as time goes on.
cant have everything at this price point
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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.
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I'd be perfectly willing to pay for the $50 or whatever to step up from 32GB to 64GB, just like you would typically do. (Well, I still think $50 is overpriced for that, but I'd do it anyway!) But it isn't even an option on the 5X.
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well i dont think its that simple. adding one more option adds to the cost of manufacturing and logistics etc which changes their bottom line and marketing tactic or whatever.
I'm more let down by the ram than storage space... 2gb... really? I know my note 4 doesn't have that much more, but my previous phone had 2gb, and I was running low on memory at times.
5X is physically WAY bigger than the LG G2 and there is no wireless charging. 16GB storage with no microSD slot shouldn't exist. This thing is definitely a dud.
I ordered the 32GB version and was annoyed to have to pay $50 extra for it. The 2GB of RAM is beat.
Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS
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Y'all can't keep comparing an older phone with older processors and operating systems to a newer phone
"I ran out of ram on my 3 year old phone with 2gb of ram blah blah whine whine cry cry"
My newer v6 jeep is faster and more efficient in every way than my old v8 jeep. Same concept. Newer design. Newer technology. Different device.
Between marshmallow, sensor hub, 808 processor, and other newer aspects of the phone. 2gb is fine.
My Nexus 6 running M Preview hasn't used more than 1.4gb ram. And the hardware in the n6 is inferior to the n5x
BEFORE CONTINUING TO CRY ABOUT THE 2GB OF RAM.. PLEASE WAIT TO SEE REAL WORLD RESULTS AND REVIEWS
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I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).
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I'm mostly worried about the max of 32GB storage, not the 2GB of RAM (the RAM is just... annoying).
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I've personally never ran out of space on a 32gb phone but I can definitely see this as an issue for some. For instance those who nandroid alot and those who store their music locally on their phone. An OTG would be a solution but a hassle to have to constantly plug in when you want to use it.
Personally I'd rather buy an OTG for those cases for super cheap than spend an extra $100 for a higher capacity phone
I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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I was so hoping that Google would put a device that was true to the original nexus roots..I felt so let down by the N6
The specs of the N5X are mediocre at best.
16GB mem?
No wireless charging..c'mon..
Don't get me wrong - you're getting a fair bit for the money but I feel they've let the ball drop in a couple of key areas. Had they included those this phone would have smashed all the others..
6P is just way overpriced - huawei trying to get in at the top end of the market. It wont work.
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An S810, 3GB of RAM, a top of the line camera, fingerprint sensor, and a full metal design for $499, you think that's overpriced? I'd have to disagree, as most if not all phones boasting the same specs are at least $150 more.
Now onto the 5x, yeah, max 32gb rom is a let down, but at the same time, you can work with it. If it doesn't work for you then this isn't the phone for you (why I ordered the 6p). The more important letdown was the 2gb of ram (the bigger reason for me getting the 6p).
There are plenty of people who cannot and will not fill up a 32gb phone, I see it everyday. Just gotta get the device that's right for you ?
I feel my Nexus 5 is still as fast as the best of them today... which just shows how much technology has plateaued. The 1080p display still wows me compared to other 2K phones, and the processor is still fast to me. I don't think I'm willing to give my storm trooper up just yet... maybe the S7 or Nexus 5X2 will have the 820, 1080p, 4 GB of RAM and an awesome camera for 2016 standards.
After having wireless charging for over 2 years, I've sworn to never buy a phone without it again.
It is a wireless phone!
The only time, and I mean the only time, I plug anything into my phone is when I'm flashing it.
Music? Bluetooth. (Or I use a FiiO)
Hands free? Bluetooth
Charging? The official nexus charger is on the side of my nightstand so I can see the phone if it goes off in the middle of the night, and the standard LG WCP-300 elsewhere.
Synchronizing data? Wifi. This happens automatically every night when I'm at home with the "syncme" app
I mean sheeet...I am quite aware the new usb-c is more rugged than micro-usb is, and less annoying since it plugs in every way...but once you charge your phone by just literally setting it down...you're so glad to never have to fish for that stupid cord again.
I even borrowed a router (the woodworking kind) and made a hole in my desk for the LG charger...it sits flush on my desk now and it's like it is never there.
Screw cords. It's 2015.
If a home cordless phone that I buy for $30 or even less can charge without fishing around for a stupid cable to plug in, than DAMMIT, my $400+ cell phone should be able to as well!
Why sit around and cry about the ram and storage? If it isn't for you, get something that is for you, end of story. 32GB of ram is much more than I'd need, I keep all my music downloaded on my tablet, and never play games or do any heavy duty tasks on my phone so the 5X would work just great for me. Everything is made to fit the needs of some people, not all people.
To the guys that say 2GB RAM is not enough. Are you all talking about for heavy multitasking, gaming or general use? Genuinely curious about the need for >2GB RAM on a phone.