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ok, we have a nexus, so we deserve updates and we have them....that's why we bought a nexus no?....
yes....but every update is a hit for our device's performance...I thought that last one would fix performance issues, but is not .
so...I bought one of these to my gf, sure that it would work well, I owned one a year ago and it was very good! nope....is slow, lags, remembers me a 100$ cheap tablet.
I considered to downgrade....is frustrating...what version do you remember as stunning fast, like a nexus should be?
4.1? damn, is too 2012-ish....
4.2? old but at least we have tiles on notification drawer...
4.3? good, some performance goodies, hw vsync...
4.4? I thought this would be the best choice because in theory is optimised for 512mb ram devices too....but was not performing well
5.0? don't say nothing...pff
I also read about f2fs as a revolution, but is not my tablet and my gf uses it for study and I can't take it to test...
thanks for reading and answering
My 2012 Nexus 7 (wifi) I had been on Android 4.4.4 when I updated to Android 5.0 using Wugs nexus root tool kit.
It had been sluggish on Kit Kat, but got more so when I went to Lollipop, even with a full wipe.
After about a week on 5.0 I rolled back to Android 4.3, and have been happy since.
Everyone is having different experiences and mine personally is that 5.0 is running greater for me then 4.4.4. That was with a complete full wipe (including data) when I flashed the image through wugs toolkit. There were initially bouts of lag (waking up screen, lock screen, etc) but the lags pretty much gone bar a few occasions. 5.0.1 will hopefully make the system more stable and not repeat what happened with 4.4.4 because my n7 ran like a pig after that update.
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My 2012 Nexus 7 (wifi) I had been on Android 4.4.4 when I updated to Android 5.0 using Wugs nexus root tool kit.
It had been sluggish on Kit Kat, but got more so when I went to Lollipop, even with a full wipe.
After about a week on 5.0 I rolled back to Android 4.3, and have been happy since.
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And how are you with 4.3? Perfect? I'm really considerino a downgrade....
I will try forma the last time a full wipe and factory image, and then downgrade until I'm satisfied.
No words about f2fs?
I have just updated my n7 to Slim rom 5.0.1.
I have been frustrated by not being able to read a simple email using gmail application. Lags, lags, and "gmail is not responding do you want to close it"
I need to have two accounts for me and my wife, so the performance was even more slow.
Now with f2fs it is a rocket. I have installed every toolvI wanted and now also the Godfire game, and I must admit that it was a hit.
So thank you google to slow our machines to force buying the new ones, but my nexus7 from 2012 acts lighning fast now.
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I have just updated my n7 to Slim rom 5.0.1.
I have been frustrated by not being able to read a simple email using gmail application. Lags, lags, and "gmail is not responding do you want to close it"
I need to have two accounts for me and my wife, so the performance was even more slow.
Now with f2fs it is a rocket. I have installed every toolvI wanted and now also the Godfire game, and I must admit that it was a hit.
So thank you google to slow our machines to force buying the new ones, but my nexus7 from 2012 acts lighning fast now.
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ok....I have to format on f2fs....that's the only way....
than...con you tell me how to do that? and also, I want to flash stock lollipop, no custom roms...
I read some but guides were outdated...and, FYI I am very experienced on flashing, so I will not take you much time
Not sure if stock can be ran on f2fs.
I installed slim rom and itis close to aosp.
Instruction is provided in the rom thread.
I am no very experienced and I handled without problems.
remmyhi said:
Not sure if stock can be ran on f2fs.
I installed slim rom and itis close to aosp.
Instruction is provided in the rom thread.
I am no very experienced and I handled without problems.
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wait. are you running kk?
Nope. Lollipop.
Slim f2fs on lollipop?
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Slim f2fs on lollipop?
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Have you got it? I'm not sure I want to keep lp on that tablet....how is it?
Even on my m8 lp performs bad, considering that is stock and my phone was on the top of benchmarks before nex 6 and 9 came out..
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Have you got it? I'm not sure I want to keep lp on that tablet....how is it?
Even on my m8 lp performs bad, considering that is stock and my phone was on the top of benchmarks before nex 6 and 9 came out..
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No, I don't have it. I just asked is there slim lollipop on f2fs, because I tried rastapop and SleamFreak which are on 5.0 and have f2fs support, but I had problems like rebooting, problem with installing new apps, etc.
So for now, till I get answer from user emmyhi, I back to slimkat KK which run fantastic on our Nexus 7.
SlimPop (f2fs) by Freak is great. very fast.
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SlimPop (f2fs) by Freak is great. very fast.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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Did you try SlimGapps Normal one from the op link. That worked fine for me. You first flash the Rom. Boot. Go to recovery again. than flash Gapps. Boot. You will get the initialisation screen.
too much beta, I can't take my gf's tablet everytime she has a problem ahahah
I will try an evening every factory image and a kk f2fs rom to see which one performs better...then I'll let you know!
I'm running stock rooted 4.4.4 kitkat on mine with Lean Kernel 4.1. No lag, no issues with apps not working like on 5.0. Good battery life ,watched over 5 hours of movies last night and still had 49% left from a full charge. Standby time is excellent, I've only lost 2% over the last 9 hours.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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Did you try SlimGapps Normal one from the op link. That worked fine for me. You first flash the Rom. Boot. Go to recovery again. than flash Gapps. Boot. You will get the initialisation screen.
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I'm running stock rooted 4.4.4 kitkat on mine with Lean Kernel 4.1. No lag, no issues with apps not working like on 5.0. Good battery life ,watched over 5 hours of movies last night and still had 49% left from a full charge. Standby time is excellent, I've only lost 2% over the last 9 hours.
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that stock one with f2fs?
No, not here. Pure stock, rooted 4.4.4 KitKat. Removed a few Google apps I don't use, but still ext4. Lean Kennel really make a difference.
and....after a flashing afternoon....
4.2.2 stock was damn fast....
4.3 stock was even faster and smoother than 4.2.2
4.4 was worse......got better with lean kernel, but wasn't just fast and responsive enough.
the winner is....4.3......that's what I left on my gf's tablet....
everything runs good, apps opening instantly, look much 2013 but google launcher and google keyboard help...
this is my suggestion after my tests. good luck and hope next LP ota will fix some performance issues, not only on this one but for every phone which got slower with this update
Every phone I've owned ran a custom Rom. Since selling my 1p1 for this a month ago, I've been extremely happy. Just rooted and recovery.
Favorite feature is the ability to delay/time my text message with the stock app. Silly but i work shift work shop it's handy.
I use a Windows phone launcher.....I know....but I like it
Stock keyboard is great too however the swipe feature is hit and miss. No issue with speed either. I know everyone wants lp updates but I'll be holding off.
Good job LG.....especially with the way it feels in the hand.
I'm currently the same way, I havent had the need to rom or root this device, LG has done a great job with the software, no lag, fast, great battery life and your right about the stock lg keyboard the swipe feature with it is terrible
Me too, first thing i usually do is slap a custom rom but love stock features like keyboard launcher knock code i like and DT2W / DT2S PS Glad to see a thread where someone ismt complaining love this device
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On my D852 I've tried the only fully working custom rom (CloudyG3 rom), And I tried the only custom kernel that exists too (Rin kernel).
From my experience stock rom + stock kernel gives me the smoothest + longest battery by far on the G3.
Which is weird because custom roms + kernels usually give more performance & battery life, But for my D852 everything that currently exists in the custom community is just worse.
For example:
Ktoonsez kernel on my S4 INCREASED my screen on time by 30-50% over stock.
Rin kernel on my G3 DECREASED my screen on time by more than 30% vs stock.
At the current moment there is NO custom kernel for the D852 that has better battery life than stock.
Same here. Just root and xposed for g3 tweaks. Sadly they didn't do a 4.4.4 as L is a no go because of ART.
Same here, ROM-ed my all previous tabs and phone. But this one is beast by itself. Rooted on 1st week and Xposed , Tweak box has all things i need. Love it.
Just the same here... Rooted it with bumped TWRP, installed xposed, tweaksbox and that's it. No custom rom required. I just love this phone for everything. I didnt, however, liked the stock icons for the apps...so i installed Unicon and flashed an icon pack and voila! Tweaked heavily for lollipop look using tweaksbox though. Doesnt want lollipop cos i cant live without xposed framework.. If ART finally gets xposed support, then i will flash the stock update from LG.. Using even the stock launcher and loving it
Ditto
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Same here !!
I like LG's UI but I gotta admit that the Stock Android L UI is much better looking than LG's Lollipop update. I feel they didn't add much "Material Design' to it. I thought of flashing CM12 but then I would lose Knock Code and Warranty.
I wish we had something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...eme-ics-domination-v4-6-4divine12-10-t1334922
Its a full AOSP theme for Samsungs Touchwiz ROM. I think when APKTool starts supporting Lollipop we will get something similar.
I just installed official Touchwiz Lollipop from Samsung on my Galaxy S5 and i just wanted to ask you guys...
I think kitkat have a definitely better battery life and a much more beautiful lock screen... but Lollipop comes with ART and great design improvments on system apps.
Which one do you think it's better? Kitkat or Lollipop and why
KitKat is better (for now).
Better battery life, no proximity sensor issues, no wifi issues, no light sensor issues , TW works smoother, overal experience is better even with no ART. Benchmark scores is not everything.
I got Lollipop 3 times and every time I downgraded to KitKat stock rom with root.
No exposed framework on LP (yet).
Maybe in couple of months when LP will be more mature project I will update.
Android One is going to have Android 5.1 soon. For now they sticked with 4.4.4.
I think that Samsung was to hurry with 5.0. They should update to 4.4.4 (especialy they had 4.4.4 done for G901).
I beg to differ with qubbus, I think LP is a much better experience than KK.
- Much more refined and better looking UI;
- I've had none of the issues stated in his post. Battery is the same for me, no issues with the sensors.
- I indeed miss Xposed but for now I rather have the small tweaks of Lollipop.
All in all, the choice is yours.
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I beg to differ with qubbus, I think LP is a much better experience than KK.
- Much more refined and better looking UI;
- I've had none of the issues stated in his post. Battery is the same for me, no issues with the sensors.
- I indeed miss Xposed but for now I rather have the small tweaks of Lollipop.
All in all, the choice is yours.
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Battery was the main reason i choosed to downgrade.. I couldn't get even through 1 day !
The rest was fine for me. ( Even if i didn't liked that new lockscreen too much )
i got my s5 on kitkat and coming from a nexus4 I was quite unsatisfied with the smoothness. but some dev's at the N4 community are really far at solving bugs and memory leaks so lollipop is running quite perfect on the N4. anyway, after I flashed lollipop on my S5 for the first time I was quite happy with the smoothness. much better then KitKat! yesterday I downgraded to KitKat because I wanted to try wanam xposed. but I almost instantly returned to lollipop.. much, much better! it looks better (too bad it's still a long way from stock android), it's much smoother and for me; battery life isn't much different. I didn't encounter any bugs, for me lollipop is running bug less but I have to say I don't use any of Samsung's extra features..
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Battery was the main reason i choosed to downgrade.. I couldn't get even through 1 day !
The rest was fine for me. ( Even if i didn't liked that new lockscreen too much )
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how many hours?
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how many hours?
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8-9-10 hours on Lollipop pretty much used
With kitkat i can make it pretty easy through 1 day...and i use my phone like..alot !
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8-9-10 hours on Lollipop pretty much used
With kitkat i can make it pretty easy through 1 day...and i use my phone like..alot !
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well its a small computer with a cpu on par with certain laptops, its got the same resolution as a hi def tv, its constantly connected to the internet. i think wanting any more than 12 hours is ludicris and misguided.
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well its a small computer with a cpu on par with certain laptops, its got the same resolution as a hi def tv, its constantly connected to the internet. i think wanting any more than 12 hours is ludicris and misguided.
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Haha. i got your point. But my point was that with Lollipop i couldn t make even 12 hours.
funny how people have different problems with the same OS
I wonder if there like me who have problems in the game of Modern Combat 5? It fails at startup after lollipop update.
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i got my s5 on kitkat and coming from a nexus4 I was quite unsatisfied with the smoothness. but some dev's at the N4 community are really far at solving bugs and memory leaks so lollipop is running quite perfect on the N4. anyway, after I flashed lollipop on my S5 for the first time I was quite happy with the smoothness. much better then KitKat! yesterday I downgraded to KitKat because I wanted to try wanam xposed. but I almost instantly returned to lollipop.. much, much better! it looks better (too bad it's still a long way from stock android), it's much smoother and for me; battery life isn't much different. I didn't encounter any bugs, for me lollipop is running bug less but I have to say I don't use any of Samsung's extra features..
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What do you guys mean when you say "downgrade?" Am I missing something or been out of the game too long? I thought flashing a lower bootloader would result inn a brick? Enlighten me please
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What do you guys mean when you say "downgrade?" Am I missing something or been out of the game too long? I thought flashing a lower bootloader would result inn a brick? Enlighten me please
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downgrade means going back too KitKat from lollipop.
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downgrade means going back too KitKat from lollipop.
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Lol, thanks. Yes, I understand what it means, my apologies for not elaborating. Are you saying that you're flashing the LP tar through Odin, then "downgrading" to KK by flashing the KK tar through Odin, or just flashing down up and down with zips through custom recovery?
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Lol, thanks. Yes, I understand what it means, my apologies for not elaborating. Are you saying that you're flashing the LP tar through Odin, then "downgrading" to KK by flashing the KK tar through Odin, or just flashing down up and down with zips through custom recovery?
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thru Odin because I want to keep my Knox untriggered..
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thru Odin because I want to keep my Knox untriggered..
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So you have successfully flashed a 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 KK tar using Odin AFTER flashing LP 5.0 through Odin or downloading it OTA?
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So you have successfully flashed a 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 KK tar using Odin AFTER flashing LP 5.0 through Odin or downloading it OTA?
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Yup, that's what a lot of people are doing after updating via KIES or OTA to Lollipop and finding it worse than KK
Im considering it myself, although don't seem to be having as many issues as others are posting since factory resetting and freezing a few bloatware apps
For me KK is better than Lollipop.
1. Most mods here don't work on Lollipop, yet
2. Xposed isn't supported on Lollipop (BIG ISSUE FOR ME)
3. Notification dropdown background is transparent. I know I can change it if I flash AllianceRom 6.0, but the above 2 points still stand
Gonna wait until Rovo fixes Xposed (hopefully) and for most mods on XDA to recieve a Lollipop version as well (some have it now, but not even close to all of them)
Soo.yeah...Lollipop is smoother and better looking, which means absolutely nothing if you can't mod it the way you want to!
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If I wanna try Lollipop, can I restore my 4.4.2 nandroid backup over my 5.0 firmware just like I would normally if I'm on KK?
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Yup, that's what a lot of people are doing after updating via KIES or OTA to Lollipop and finding it worse than KK
Im considering it myself, although don't seem to be having as many issues as others are posting since factory resetting and freezing a few bloatware apps
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Wow, that's better than it used to be when KK first came out for the S3. If you flashed a lower boot loader, you bricked!
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Wow, that's better than it used to be when KK first came out for the S3. If you flashed a lower boot loader, you bricked!
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There seems to be a lot of conflicting info about it, but Ive read a good few people saying they have managed it fine with no problems after flashing back to KK - not done it myself yet though
But yea, a lot of places are saying if you flash from a KNOX enabled firmware back to a firmware without KNOX, it won't work due to the bootloader, but members here and droid central forums report it working 100% fine
Was there ever a build of KK that had KNOX ?
If yes, then that's likely the build people are flashing back to, if not, then I have no idea
Im still on the fence about flashing back, or just forgetting the warranty and rooting this thing on lollipop as it is
I suppose even if it bricked, you'd be able to recover with ODIN
I'm coming back to KitKat. I didn't like android lollipop. Some of the aplications are not supported and battery life is terrible
Hey everyone, so I am pretty new to the whole android scene and had a couple of questions.
Do you prefer to use stock w/Xposed or a custom rom? And what are your reasons for doing so?
Also, I had a OPO before and had it rooted and had Blisspop installed. One thing that I really liked was the fact that I could install the nightly updates from the Rom settings, and it did not affect my root status at all. Are there any decent ROM's that can do the same thing for the Nexus 6p?
Thanks for the time and sorry if these are dumb questions!
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Hey everyone, so I am pretty new to the whole android scene and had a couple of questions.
Do you prefer to use stock w/Xposed or a custom rom? And what are your reasons for doing so?
Also, I had a OPO before and had it rooted and had Blisspop installed. One thing that I really liked was the fact that I could install the nightly updates from the Rom settings, and it did not affect my root status at all. Are there any decent ROM's that can do the same thing for the Nexus 6p?
Thanks for the time and sorry if these are dumb questions!
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Your custom ROM had root included.; standard feature in every custom ROM. But that doesn't matter anymore, since SuperSU 2.60+ doesn't write to /system.
Stock ROM, franco kernel, Xposed for me. Because I can.
You can install a custom ROM of choice and xposed. Just be careful not to enable any modules or settings that conflict with your custom ROM. If you have any problems you can always flash xposed uninstaller in twrp and try again. This way you can have the best of both worlds. I'm currently running pure nexus with elemental x kernal as well as xposed.
Does pure nexus allow you to install updates through the settings without having to manually flash a new image?
As of now I'm running stock with Xposed. Stock has just been so damn smooth, fast and stable I feel no need for a custom ROM. Plus Xposed takes care of all the little tweaks/mods that make the phone look unique/custom to my liking.
Most of the custom ROMs we have are just the stock ROM with some features added, so what you really need to ask yourself is whether you want features built in to the ROM, or whether you want to lose some of the ART opportunities by using Xposed.
Heisenberg said:
Most of the custom ROMs we have are just the stock ROM with some features added, so what you really need to ask yourself is whether you want features built in to the ROM, or whether you want to lose some of the ART opportunities by using Xposed.
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What exactly do you mean by losing some of the ART opportunities by using xposed? Is there a downside to it?
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Does pure nexus allow you to install updates through the settings without having to manually flash a new image?
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With pure nexus you have to download a new update and flash in twrp. So far I've been able to dirty flash all updates except the 6.01 upgrade. It only takes a couple minutes to do.
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What exactly do you mean by losing some of the ART opportunities by using xposed? Is there a downside to it?
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When Xposed first came around it would only work on the Dalvik runtime. When Android switched to the ART runtime with Lollipop I remember reading that the Xposed devs had to mess a bit with the ART optimisations to get Xposed to work with it. It probably isn't all that noticeable in the real world. But really, most custom ROMs for Nexus phones are based on the stock ROM anyway, they're both derived from the same aosp builds. So the argument that stock is smoother is pure placebo. You can choose to have features built into the ROM, or choose to add features yourself via Xposed, the native option seems like a better choice to me.
I'm also on stock + xposed. I thought this would be the most stable, but I seem to get apps crashing at least 10 times per day, ie "App X stopped working. Close or Wait?".
Does anyone else have a similar problem, or would this be addressed if I installed a custom rom?
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I'm also on stock + xposed. I thought this would be the most stable, but I seem to get apps crashing at least 10 times per day, ie "App X stopped working. Close or Wait?".
Does anyone else have a similar problem, or would this be addressed if I installed a custom rom?
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I'd certainly try a custom ROM, you won't know until you try unfortunately.
This is the very first time in Nexus history that more people are running stock roms rather than custom roms. So let's settle it, shall we ?
custom because im lazy
stock
PureNexus user checking in. I've always enjoyed flashing ROMs and there seems to be a lot of thought put into this one - not to mention overwhelming community support and usage. Android, to me, has always been about third party development and I love to have that perspective represented on my device.
Just got it today so stock...... For now?
Still on stock. Not even rooted yet.
Stock here.
I'm not even rooted either.
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Entirely stock, but downgraded back to 6.0 since i was suffering from weird LTE issues. Otherwise stock and unrooted.
Stock and with no root. Its the first phone wich i havent rooted
Stock is way smoother than any other custom ROM, I miss the features like unlink ringtone and notification from custom roms, but the smoothness of stock is unparalleled.
Stock..unrooted
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Rooted all the way baby. Stock is nice but I can't live without xposed framework and custome governor profiles
If you guys ever root try this set up and never look back.
Custom Room (xTraFactory is what I am running)
ElementalX Custom Kernel (with DarkSpice profile)
Xposed Framework ( look at pictures bellow)
Cataclysm Mod
AdAway
Naptime App ( on aggressive mode)
Crazy Battery and insanely smooth. Use my phone without worrying about anything
Stock rooted with a custom kernel (franco at the moment) and xposed is perfect.
I used to check out different ROMs on all my previous devices but 6P with all that stated above is perfect.
For those that say stock is smoother than a custom rom ...must be a placebo lol
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Stock is way smoother than any other custom ROM, I miss the features like unlink ringtone and notification from custom roms, but the smoothness of stock is unparalleled.
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Could always stay stock, root and take advantage of Xposed?
That's I am using now, stock plus Xposed, but that slows down the phone a bit, and I get a force closed every now and then.
Stock, rooted, running xposed
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Stock, no root - for the 1st time ever
Ubermallow or bust... There's literally no comparison.
Darkspice?
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Rooted all the way baby. Stock is nice but I can't live without xposed framework and custome governor profiles
If you guys ever root try this set up and never look back.
Custom Room (xTraFactory is what I am running)
ElementalX Custom Kernel (with DarkSpice profile)
Xposed Framework ( look at pictures bellow)
Cataclysm Mod
AdAway
Naptime App ( on aggressive mode)
Crazy Battery and insanely smooth. Use my phone without worrying about anything
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hey im using elementalX kernel but would you tell me how to get this darkspice profile working?
Thx