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[Q] worth upgrading from 4.1.2?

Hi guys my phone is locked with 4.1.2 stock rooted. I never updated for the fear of knox stuff and the risk of beeing unable to downgrade.
My phone works great and battery life is awesome. Is it something that really worth upgrading?
Can you give me some suggestione were to go?
Thank you
Andrea

For me the changes are not really that big, i AM running 4.4.2 though atm.
Even when i had the phone on 4.1.2, it was performing more than excellent.
Make a nandroid of ur current install, flash a diff one, and see if you like it or not.
+points on 4.1.2 for me: Simplistic Framework + App (this was defo good, and prefer it over Wanam Xposed, which is also very nice must i add)
+points on 4.4.2 for me: just a bit nicer UI, a few apps depending on 4.4+
Just reference, 4.1.2 Touchwiz ran better than it's CyanogenMod alternative
4.3 i found smoother on Cyanogen than Touchwiz
4.4.2 i can barely notice the difference between CM/Touchwiz performance.

I regret it myself.
Though a lot of my problems (phone freezing every 24 hours, requiring reboot) and other pain seems to have gone away since I removed Knox (I installed it to test, then uninstalled it)
If it's easy for you to stay on 4.1.2 I really would - I wish I could go back.
Note: Not rooted, not running a kiddie ROM.

Mjuksel;51378408
Make a nandroid of ur current install said:
Thank you all for your suggestions.
can you clarify me if I can revert to 4.1.2 even if from stock 4.3 or I have to pay attention of knox stuff?
Thank you
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You can revert everything apart from the boot loader. Which means Knox warranty will be void when you do it.

Why don't you install pre-rooted stock or custom ROM? Just flash MJ5 bootloader from Odin - it is compatible with both 4.1.2 and 4.3 ROMs, and then choose custom ROM. The advantages are huge - if you get one with Note 3 features. I'm on Criskelo and battery life is the same, speed is the same and I have Note 3 apps - soo cool. Also then you can use Xposed modules like Wanam Exposed and XUI which are great....

You can revert everything apart from the boot loader.
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4.3 = 4.1...
I no longer believe in upgrading the operating system in Android anymore. It's pointless and a waste of time.
Every time you buy a new phone, you basically get an Android upgrade, there is no point in getting android upgrade during that time.
People who constantly flash new roms just have too much time.

Im on 4.4.2 stock leaked....and works great so far...I like all the note3 features...and kitkat its fast and smooth...I test all the roms out there...and Dnv4RC its the best I try...make a nandroid backup and test yourself...its the only way.
Cheers

If I were you I would really wait for official 4.4 release (probably next month) + Omega or DN3 (or your favorite rom) update with that base and do nothing until then.

Stay on 4.2.1. I regret updating. .. now stuck with Knox. On 4.2.1 you can install custom 4.4 roms.
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[POLL] Your current ROM for Nexus 6? (NEW POLL IN OP)

Your current ROM for Nexus 6?
New poll, do you guys prefer Stock Android with a Custom Kernel, or without?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/stock-rom-stock-kernel-stock-rom-custom-t3070822

Original rooted stock kernel. Teamwin recovery. 5.1
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Currently on stock ROM 5.1 47e with MCR controls

Dirty Unicorns 9.2 test which is flawless and I'm very pleased.
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Chroma.

Validus. 5.0.2 Lean kernel 3.10.69 Verizon. 98r radio

Benzo - because if you want something it's probably in there. There is CM themes, Viper Audio , LED controls, Omniswitch, ad blocker, Pie, etc...
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FriendWithin said:
Your current ROM for Nexus 6?
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Meanpop for now. What's yours?

galaxys said:
Meanpop for now. What's yours?
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Currently Benzo. Kind wanted more features than stock. However I'm considering switching to either cleanrom or Chroma. Opening apps doesn't feel snappy on benzo.

FriendWithin said:
Currently Benzo. Kind wanted more features than stock. However I'm considering switching to either cleanrom or Chroma. Opening apps doesn't feel snappy on benzo.
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Do you have it in performance mode or balance mode. what do you have your CPU's maxed out at?
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Chroma + Lean Kernel
Lightweight, clean and buttery smooth
Sent from my Nexus 6

BenzoROM 5.1 with Vindicator Kernel

Stock 5.1 "E", installed via fastboot on a Motorola Store Nexus 6.
Although I want to root for tethering and some other nice-to-haves, this stock version of 5.1 is running noticeable faster than 5.0.1 and has much of what I already want for this phone.
- ooofest

Temaseks cm12. Smooth and fast. 5.1 is coming soon

I am one of those bizarre creatures that doesn't unlock, root, mod a Nexus. I was the same with The N5. So totally stock and satisfied here. On LMY47I.

Terminus with lean kernel
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Evolution_Freak said:
I am one of those bizarre creatures that doesn't unlock, root, mod a Nexus. I was the same with The N5. So totally stock and satisfied here. On LMY47I.
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How come?

yellowman82 said:
How come?
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All my years of rooting phones, back to the OG evo 4g, (lurked on XDA for 2 years before creating an account) I've always ended up running AOSP or something close. I love pure Android and the Google experience. As it turns out, for me, stock Nexus is perfect for my needs right out of the box. Honestly, I was a complete flashaholic and it's also nice to not spend so much time flashing.

After trying Chroma for a bit, I switched back to stock, there're things provided by Google that I miss in custom roms (Google Now voice control).

Meanpop+franco

Keep or Lose MF9?

HI all,
I'm looking to flash my phone with a newer ROM. I'm currently on one I installed quite a while ago. I'm now a bit confused on which ROMs I can and can't use.
My phone is MF9 according to what I've been able to locate in the about settings and phone info programs. I keep seeing stuff about OD2, but I'm not really sure what that means for me. Also, isn't there something about updating and it doing something to the boot loader?
Do I need to update to OD2 to use newer ROMs?
Will it lock my boot loader and what will that do to my ability to change ROMs later?
Lastly, and I know it's a matter of personal preference, what ROM would you recommend? I'm just looking for something stable. Though good battery life and fast would be nice too.
Thanks,
-Jeff

OD2 didn't lock my bootloader. The updated bootloader actually means you'll be free to use more recent custom ROMs.
As for ROM recommendation, usually it should be a no-brainer for me to give CM, but CM on this phone drains battery a bit too fast, so I'll hold back on that.
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[WARNING: XDA Premium 4.0.13+ lacks Signature function - do not update]

Thanks Andy,
So, if I do an Odin update to OD2, I should still be safe on my phone? That takes a load off my mind.
I did CM back on my Nexus S4G years before I got this phone. It wasn't bad. The battery life thing is a deal breaker though. Now that I know I can safely update without screwing things up too much I'll play around with a few. My main thing is to update my wife's phone so that she doesn't have problems. She always insists on matching phones so I can help her with stuff LOL
-Jeff

Only AT&T and Verizon lock bootloaders, you could try my ROM, Wicked X, in the Android Development section. Very stable and battery friendly.
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Rooted and on MDC (L-720) is it worth updating?

I am asking for information, because I haven't used my S4 in over a year. My son needs a phone to use and I'm wondering how far it's worth updating my old S4? I rooted it when rooting became available, but never updated it past MDC. What I'm asking for feedback on, is how far it's worth updating it? As in, is updating as far as Lollipop worth it, or is it a battery killer? Or are there any other major problems? If so, how far do you suggest updating? I would probably have him running a stockish, but maybe debloated, TW ROM, as I don't think he isn't interested in learning AOSP. If I update all the way to Lollipop, do I need to Odin all the "official" updates between MDC and OD2? I know I'll have to unroot at the very least so I can activate my S4 on his phone number. Thanks for any advice.

smarcin said:
I am asking for information, because I haven't used my S4 in over a year. My son needs a phone to use and I'm wondering how far it's worth updating my old S4? I rooted it when rooting became available, but never updated it past MDC. What I'm asking for feedback on, is how far it's worth updating it? As in, is updating as far as Lollipop worth it, or is it a battery killer? Or are there any other major problems? If so, how far do you suggest updating? I would probably have him running a stockish, but maybe debloated, TW ROM, as I don't think he isn't interested in learning AOSP. If I update all the way to Lollipop, do I need to Odin all the "official" updates between MDC and OD2? I know I'll have to unroot at the very least so I can activate my S4 on his phone number. Thanks for any advice.
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I think it is worth it, battery life gets worse with each version of Android but not enough to not update. My S4 runs good enough that I decided to not upgrade for the last 6 months. OH1 is actually the latest and I just saw that they are about to release OK3. You only have to Odin one file, you don't need to do the updates in between.
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bilgerryan said:
I think it is worth it, battery life gets worse with each version of Android but not enough to not update. My S4 ruins good enough that I decided to not upgrade for the last 6 months. OH1 is actually the latest and I just saw that they are about to release OK3. You only have to Odin one file, you don't need to do the updates in between.
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So, are you on OH1, then?

smarcin said:
So, are you on OH1, then?
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Yes, the only reason I would say to go with OD2 over OH1 is if you want to unlock for another carrier. OH1 doesn't have an unlocked modem yet and you can't downgrade firmware once you've upgraded past KitKat.

If you are having trouble with the process there is a step by step in the installation instructions (about halfway through the first post) for my ROM here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3115583

MM, Nougat, stock, root...Which has best overall performance and reliability?

I'm rooted via instruction from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470 and continually have to adjust settings just to have mediocre performance, not even to speak of other issues there seems to be no workaround for (like the OS not being able to handle background apps properly so I'm getting notifications late, or not at all...But I DO get notifications from apps/games I haven't opened or played in a week). I also signed the petition to unlock the bootloader. I WANT the keep the fight going, but I NEED a properly working phone more (ultimately, my way to really show my dislike of Samsungs lockdown decisions is when I buy my next phone from someone else!).
So I ask, what should I put on my phone for the most reliability and performance? Is that the current stock Marshmallow? Nougat? Or something else?
Thank you.

Stock whatever if you really wanted root sorry to say this is not the phone for you.

Stock TMO Nougat, very closely followed by stock Universal Marshmallow. Some people are experiencing very minimal lag with rooted TMO Nougat, which gives me hope for rooted Universal Nougat.

Definitely rooted nougat.

king3opobn said:
Definitely rooted nougat.
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Care to share your kernal settings? I'm having a very bad time with my root on ENG kernal. Do you suggest a different method?

Thanks for the replies folks. I decided to go with stock nougat and so far it's been like a breath of fresh air when you've been breathing nothing but convoluted smog and I haven't even debloated it yet.

cr1130 said:
Care to share your kernal settings? I'm having a very bad time with my root on ENG kernal. Do you suggest a different method?
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I used the same way as you
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3567502
I set the cpu govener to conservative
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Seems to me root isn't the way anymore forbs7, lot of bricked phones, everyday people saying they're stuck in a boot loop or its laggy after root. The only reason I would want to root is to disable native upsampling across the whole system. Right now disadvantages > advantages imo. Other than that there is nothing else I want to do that I can't already do with Nougat and formely MM on my S7E.

I wish they would release the U version...
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