Wind Mobile Note 4 version and rootable? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know what version of Note 4 Wind Mobile carries from their store and whether its rootable or not?
http://www.windmobile.ca/plans-and-devices/mobile-devices/device-details/samsung-galaxy-note-4
I've been considering whether to get a Nexus 6 or Note 4 for couple weeks now and rootability is a huge concern as always.
Thanks as always.

Canadian versions all use the same variant model SM-N910W8
Its very rootable as I did mine but you will trip Knox and void Samsung's warranty.

ciscostud said:
Canadian versions all use the same variant model SM-N910W8
Its very rootable as I did mine but you will trip Knox and void Samsung's warranty.
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Thanks for the reply.
Bit off topic, but how strict is Samsung on tripping Knox voiding warranty? My knowledge of it is that its a irreversible bit flip that Samsung will check for at warranty.
Do they check for this every time and does it guarantee a warranty denial?

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[Q] Will EU version of GNote get OTA if used in USA?

Hi,
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Note. Unfortunately I'm in the U.S. So I'll have to get it from overseas. Even if I get it from a US seller, the phone is probably imported anyway. I'm planning to get it from Handtec. They have the EU version I believe.
Now if Samsung relases any OTA, does anyone know if I'll be able to get it here in the U.S.
Thanks.
As I understand, the Note doesn't need OTA's per se, as they're also downloadable directly into the phone through your WiFi using a piece of software called Kies, that is instaleld both in your phone and in your desktop.
I don't own one yet tough, so I'm just passing along forum information.
Funny you are asking that on XDA. Who cares? You can always come here and get it. Be much more concerned about the lack of warranty. The only thing holding me back from getting the Note
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Phylar said:
Funny you are asking that on XDA. Who cares? You can always come here and get it. Be much more concerned about the lack of warranty. The only thing holding me back from getting the Note
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the Note comes with an international warranty... Well my Note did. I'm in the UK and bought it as an import from Germany. Confirmed the international warranty with the supplier too and it's definitely in force. Got a warranty book in the box to prove it.
Ngambek2003 said:
Hi,
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Note. Unfortunately I'm in the U.S. So I'll have to get it from overseas. Even if I get it from a US seller, the phone is probably imported anyway. I'm planning to get it from Handtec. They have the EU version I believe.
Now if Samsung relases any OTA, does anyone know if I'll be able to get it here in the U.S.
Thanks.
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the availability of OTA is dependent upon the region the phone originated from, not which country youre currently in.
ie. if you have the european note, it will only update when a european update is available, not when the US update is available. doesnt matter if youre in US or australia like me, cant update until they release a european update.
denialnw10 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Note comes with an international warranty... Well my Note did. I'm in the UK and bought it as an import from Germany. Confirmed the international warranty with the supplier too and it's definitely in force. Got a warranty book in the box to prove it.
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It doesn't matter where the warranty comes from, but if any Note user decides to:
a) root their device
b) install any custom rom/kernel
the warranty will be gone in most cases. The warranty will cover hardware or software malfunction but if you install not-stock stuff on your phone, then you can't complain if your service provider or repairshop won't do it for free.
Souai said:
the availability of OTA is dependent upon the region the phone originated from, not which country youre currently in.
ie. if you have the european note, it will only update when a european update is available, not when the US update is available. doesnt matter if youre in US or australia like me, cant update until they release a european update.
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Yes, but I believe his question was more about if an american carrier would broadcast a european OTA over their networks. They don't, but Kies take care of that.
Viamonte said:
Yes, but I believe his question was more about if an american carrier would broadcast a european OTA over their networks. They don't, but Kies take care of that.
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I wasn't expecting the update to be broadcast from the carrier actually. I'm expecting Samsung to broadcast it directly. It sounds like I should be able to get the update, either through OTA or through Kies. It'd be nice to be able to update without requiring a desktop though.
Viamonte said:
Yes, but I believe his question was more about if an american carrier would broadcast a european OTA over their networks. They don't, but Kies take care of that.
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carriers only broadcast updates to carrier locked phones iirc.
if you purchase an unlocked phone, it doesnt matter what carrier youre on. when you go to check for updates, it should be connecting to samsung's servers, not your carrier's.

[Q] Any confirmation on ATT Bootloader?

I haven't seen any hard evidence of a locked bootloader on Note3. I know its probably going to happen, just looking for some confirmation.
Looks like locked bootloaders will be standard equipment on AT&T and ESPECIALLY VZW devices from now on.
I can confirm it is locked.
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SM-N900A
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
kNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
YellowGTO, get out!
designgears said:
I can confirm it is locked.
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SM-N900A
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
kNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
YellowGTO, get out!
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Aww im so sad now
designgears said:
I can confirm it is locked.
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SM-N900A
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
kNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable
YellowGTO, get out!
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Thanks put in the order for T-Mobile (I am on ATT network)..Hopefully the bootloader is unlocked. I need unfettered development instead of going through many hoops even if it is not cracked.
mohan_kr said:
Thanks put in the order for T-Mobile (I am on ATT network)..Hopefully the bootloader is unlocked. I need unfettered development instead of going through many hoops even if it is not cracked.
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You won't be getting any LTE
designgears said:
You won't be getting any LTE
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Why wouldn't an unlocked T-mobile N3 with an AT&T LTE SIM not get LTE on AT&T? It supports all the necessary bands in the US.
dawheat said:
Why wouldn't an unlocked T-mobile N3 with an AT&T LTE SIM not get LTE on AT&T? It supports all the necessary bands in the US.
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My same thoughts
designgears said:
You won't be getting any LTE
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Yes he will get LTE... T-Mobile variant is simply the best money can buy... Works Perfectly with AT&T and T-Mobile... I will buy it myself on oct 2
Plus AT&T's bootloader is confirmed to be ****ed...
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designgears said:
You won't be getting any LTE
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Do you know something we don't? The bands match up for LTE. I pre ordered my tmo n3 a few weeks ago.
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Is there any way to confirm tmo n3 works on AT&T LTE? I am thinking of going this route also and get it unlocked. Thanks.
I'll be able to tell you when mine comes in this week.
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mircury said:
I'll be able to tell you when mine comes in this week.
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Cool, thanks. Will you be able to unlock it or did you buy straight from negri?
From negri.
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Ok, wish they have the white one.
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Ya, originally I did too but I think the black looks really good with the neo hybrid case so I'm happy.
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Unlocking TOBILE
I want to buy the NOTE 3 when it comes out - I Won't buy it from ATT Because of the Locked Bootloader (I am sure it is going to be locked and considering no one has found a way to unlock the S4 since ATT relocked the Bootloader with their latest update, I don't think the ATT will be unlocked anytime soon , so I will buy it elsewhere but I am curious if anyone knows - If I buy a NOTE 3 from TMOBILE - will they just let me buy the phone and not activate it? So I can ultimately get it unlocked and moved to ATT?
Any thoughts anyone?
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mocsab said:
I want to buy the NOTE 3 when it comes out - I Won't buy it from ATT Because of the Locked Bootloader (I am sure it is going to be locked and considering no one has found a way to unlock the S4 since ATT relocked the Bootloader with their latest update, I don't think the ATT will be unlocked anytime soon , so I will buy it elsewhere but I am curious if anyone knows - If I buy a NOTE 3 from TMOBILE - will they just let me buy the phone and not activate it? So I can ultimately get it unlocked and moved to ATT?
Any thoughts anyone?
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If its gets confirmed that tmobile version would work with ATT lte, then
- Get a non commitment monthly plan from tmobile and would cancel the contract once i get the device.
- It will be 199( up front price) + 21x24 monthly payments + 10 ( for sim) + tax = 713 + tax = appr.760 Plus I might have to pay part of the monthly amount.
- The downsides is You get a credit hit
What are the other options
- T mobile has not released the prepaid plan... But if they do , this would be best option but , i do not see it happening..
- Buy it from a third party like negri...
- Or get it from ebay
I thought the AT&T and Tmo n3's were effectively the same model engineering \ rf wise and only differed in some software tweaks and cosmetic issues. It was only one model that went through the FCC and also the bands claimed match for both. Probably saves both of them some money not having a different RF package developed making them essentially the same sku. Given tmo roams on at&t (albeit rarely these days) it make sense
aalupatti said:
- It will be 199( up front price) + 21x24 monthly payments + 10 ( for sim) + tax = 613 + tax = appr.660 Plus I might have to pay part of the monthly amount.
- The downsides is You get a credit hit
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199+(21x24)+10 = 713 plus tax
They also demand payment in full for any phone if you terminate your line. They actually plaster it all over their site, inbetween each line of 3 phones in the shop it says.
IF YOU FINANCE YOUR DEVICE AND CANCEL WIRELESS SERVICE, REMAINING BALANCE ON PHONE BECOMES DUE.
You can pay full price for it if you want and just walk away if all you want is the phone. They will charge you for the remainder of the month, no prorating but other than that no contract.
richym82 said:
I thought the AT&T and Tmo n3's were effectively the same model engineering \ rf wise and only differed in some software tweaks and cosmetic issues. It was only one model that went through the FCC and also the bands claimed match for both. Probably saves both of them some money not having a different RF package developed making them essentially the same sku. Given tmo roams on at&t (albeit rarely these days) it make sense
199+(21x24)+10 = 713 plus tax
They also demand payment in full for any phone if you terminate your line. They actually plaster it all over their site, inbetween each line of 3 phones in the shop it says.
IF YOU FINANCE YOUR DEVICE AND CANCEL WIRELESS SERVICE, REMAINING BALANCE ON PHONE BECOMES DUE.
You can pay full price for it if you want and just walk away if all you want is the phone. They will charge you for the remainder of the month, no prorating but other than that no contract.
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But u still take the credit hit.
To me the best option now is negri
Ps. Thanks for the correction
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[Q] Can i return knox flagged s5 with camera problem.

Idk if there is a thread for this, but i have a particular problem.
I had originally rooted my Samsung Galaxy S5, but unrooted it the next day. (No roms or anything) (i rooted correctly)
I found out i tripped the knox counter (not the problem, well sorta)
The problem is that a week later out of nowhere my camera stops working.
I want to know, if i go in for a return. What will happen? Will i have to pay for the replacement? If so, how much?
I have the T-Mobile version and i am on the jump program.
I need answers before i try turning it in tomorrow. 
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I don't know your region.
But in Melbourne, I just replace my s5 with knox 0x1. They never check it.
SupGTR said:
I don't know your region.
But in Melbourne, I just replace my s5 with knox 0x1. They never check it.
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To who? Samsung? your store? carrier?
Hellscythe said:
To who? Samsung? your store? carrier?
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samsung service plaza.
Quoted from the t-mobile jump program page:
And only with JUMP!, you’re protected if your device is lost, damaged, or stolen with the included Premium Handset Protection® and Lookout Mobile Security®. (Deductible may apply; see FAQ below.)
if you think it's too risky sending it in with knox0x1 use your imagination with the lost or stolen option.
stalli0nUK said:
Quoted from the t-mobile jump program page:
And only with JUMP!, you’re protected if your device is lost, damaged, or stolen with the included Premium Handset Protection® and Lookout Mobile Security®. (Deductible may apply; see FAQ below.)
if you think it's too risky sending it in with knox0x1 use your imagination with the lost or stolen option.
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This was one thing I didn't get... How do they check if your phone was really lost or stolen?
Be careful with those discussions - that's fraud and shouldn't be discussed on a public forum.

Note 4 is rooted!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2897428
Chainfire has rooted both the runoff Exynos and Snapdragon Asian variants of the Note 4!
More to come soon!
I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get mine!
I know this trips KNOX. My question is does it even matter? If I don't ever plan I using KNOX, will it effect anything else?
Warrantee if the guys at the Sprint store actually care.
You could always unroot..
hermeticist said:
Warrantee if the guys at the Sprint store actually care.
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Root does not affect your service and repair coverage. With that said, if your phone is acting up and you take it in to a Sprint service center, it may be required from the service repair center that you unroot to assure the issue is not Root/ Rom related. If a Service center sees your phone, and immediately says "Your phone is rooted, warranty void, we can't help you" - You should contest that, or take it to another Service / Repair location that knows what they are doing...
Root does not void your warranty or Service / Repair eligibility with Sprint.:good:
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Root does not affect your service and repair coverage. With that said, if your phone is acting up and you take it in to a Sprint service center, it may be required from the service repair center that you unroot to assure the issue is not Root/ Rom related. If a Service center sees your phone, and immediately says "Your phone is rooted, warranty void, we can't help you" - You should contest that, or take it to another Service / Repair location that knows what they are doing...
Root does not void your warranty or Service / Repair eligibility with Sprint.:good:
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I'll be that guy... Link please
xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
I'll be that guy... Link please
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I can't post a link for you for various reasons. BUT That is the policy. If a device is rooted , and it s suspected to be the cause of the issue, you may be asked to install back to stock, so being rooted can be ruled out as the cause. The phone can be swapped out like any other stock device, provided there isn't liquid, or physical damage.
Chainfire is on it !
Will be waiting to make the phone mine! Had one in hand today, looks and feels like a much more premium product, nice job Samsung!
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I know this trips KNOX. My question is does it even matter? If I don't ever plan I using KNOX, will it effect anything else?
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It does matter at some Sprint Stores AND SAMSUNG WONDERS WHY SALES ARE DOWN. A majority of customers that would buy this phone would purchase it because they want the advanced features and the ability to customize. If you just want a smartphone then there are many phones out there that cost less and you are not penalized for customization. If Samsung wants to know if customization is causing problems on a phone they only need to reload the factory rom. I can see enforcing Knox on business supplied phones but do not see the purpose for private owners.
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It does matter at some Sprint Stores AND SAMSUNG WONDERS WHY SALES ARE DOWN. A majority of customers that would buy this phone would purchase it because they want the advanced features and the ability to customize. If you just want a smartphone then there are many phones out there that cost less and you are not penalized for customization. If Samsung wants to know if customization is causing problems on a phone they only need to reload the factory rom. I can see enforcing Knox on business supplied phones but do not see the purpose for private owners.
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xda is the central hub for all things phone modding IMO. it has close to 6 million users, a fraction of that are samsung, but lets go on the high side and say 2 million of them are. Are all these samsung users buying each device? cuz teh SGS5 sold 11 million in its first month, its been 6 now, factor in the major of people arent upgrading every 6 months to go from note 3 to s5 to note 4 nad youve got a sizeable chunk of the market that are buying these phones that arent people on xda.
the entirety of verizons modding community complaining to vzw about bootloaders etc is far larger than the one complaining to samsung about a fuse that allows you to still mod your device and the vzw folks are getting no where. the modding community is not so big that if everyone who read this very same forum decided not to get the note 4 samsung would notice/care.
US versions - Yet.
Download
SM-N9100 (Qualcomm): CF-Auto-Root-trltechn-trlteduoszc-smn9100.zip (may be replaced)
SM-N910W8 (Canadia, Qualcomm): CF-Auto-Root-trltecan-trltecan-smn910w8.zip
SM-N910C (Thailand, Exynos): CF-Auto-Root-trelte-treltexx-smn910c.zip
SM-N910U (Hong Kong, Exynos): CF-Auto-Root-trhplte-trhpltexx-smn910u.zip
SM-N910S (Korea, Exynos): CF-Auto-Root-trelteskt-trelteskt-smn910s.zip
SM-N9106W (China, Snapdragon): CF-Auto-Root-trltechn-trlteduoszn-smn9106w.zip
SM-N9109W (China, Snapdragon): CF-Auto-Root-trltechn-trlteduosctc-smn9109w.zip
Other models
CF-Auto-Root is not yet available for all models - one stock firmwares for these models become available, let me know, and I'll make the corresponding CF-Auto-Roots. Make sure to check the main CF-Auto-Root site as well, as models may be listed there that are not listed here yet!
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excellent news. Means I'll be able, in theory, to use WiFi Tether Router, when I get my phone. To quote Bill and Ted, "Excellent"
When rooted will the selinux be set to permissive. This is big for me and my appradio.
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Will be picking mine up Friday morning and I'm off, hopefully we'll have root...
NM
hermeticist said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2897428
Chainfire has rooted both the runoff Exynos and Snapdragon Asian variants of the Note 4!
More to come soon!
I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get mine!
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Just to clarify for those confused by this thread...Chainfire hasn't made an autoroot yet for the Sprint Note 4.
People in the main Note 4 CF-AutoRoot thread are saying that the T-Mobile root works for Sprint. So far no one has reported any issues. I want to use Titanium Backup to restore my data so I am leaning towards trying it. I will however wait until either a few more people report on it or the end of the month.
I am sure that Chainfire needs an official Sprint ROM in order to make sure that CF-AutoRoot works with minimal issues.
WyldeStile said:
People in the main Note 4 CF-AutoRoot thread are saying that the T-Mobile root works for Sprint. So far no one has reported any issues. I want to use Titanium Backup to restore my data so I am leaning towards trying it. I will however wait until either a few more people report on it or the end of the month.
I am sure that Chainfire needs an official Sprint ROM in order to make sure that CF-AutoRoot works with minimal issues.
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Just picked mine up... I'm like you, I want to jump right in and restore my stuff but I'll just hang back and wait for success stories.........
can't wait, need my titanium backup!
I've posted several times in the main thread for directions to get the recovery.img to give to Chainfire with no responses...
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I've posted several times in the main thread for directions to get the recovery.img to give to Chainfire with no responses...
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Yea i tried that too, then again i guess i dont have one anymore, mines a tmobile variant.
I was going to post in here for all watching this 1 not the main autoroot thread, that the tmobile one works but looks like info is already here

Note 5 carrier limitations

I told myself I'd never go back to a TouchWiz device, but alas here I am getting ready to make a move to the Note 5. I'm also switching carriers as T-mobile gets terrible service at my new home. While comparing AT&T and Verizon, I noticed that Verizon may not end up supporting Samsung Pay.
So I thought I would take this discussion here (if it belongs in Q&A please move it): What sort of carrier limitations will be placed on the Note 5 by AT&T or Verizon? Any insight to help me choose which version to go with would be a big help.
Along with not supporting Samsung Pay, I've heard that Verizon still is stubborn as hell with locking down their phones. It would be a deal breaker if I'm unable to root.
Anything else I should expect when deciding on the carrier?
Take your pick as far as locked down phones are concerned. I think both AT&T and Verizon are equally bad on locking down devices.
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You wont be unlocking your device ever if you want to use samsung pay, you can't use it on a rooted device period for security reasons.
We should be able to sue if Verizon blocks Samsung pay...
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You can sue anyone for anything in the US. Whether you would win or not, or want to pay the lawyer fees, is another story...
So go ahead. ?
Or were you just complaining?
Kaboose666 said:
You wont be unlocking your device ever if you want to use samsung pay, you can't use it on a rooted device period for security reasons.
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You sure about this? Unless I'm mistaken people have been using Google Wallet with rooted devices for a while.
hahajoker said:
You sure about this? Unless I'm mistaken people have been using Google Wallet with rooted devices for a while.
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I am 99% sure, Samsung uses Knox security and when your device boots up Knox does a security check on the device, if it detects root, samsung pay will NOT work, period. Ever. You can't reset it, once it detects it you're pretty much F'd. And it's still up in the air if that will affect your hardware warranty or not, though I doubt it will.
This is specific to Knox and samsung pay.
Kaboose666 said:
I am 99% sure, Samsung uses Knox security and when your device boots up Knox does a security check on the device, if it detects root, samsung pay will NOT work, period. Ever. You can't reset it, once it detects it you're pretty much F'd. And it's still up in the air if that will affect your hardware warranty or not, though I doubt it will.
This is specific to Knox and samsung pay.
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Thanks for the info. I forgot all about good ol Knox and all the bull**** that comes with it. I want to like the Note 5 but Samsung is making it really hard.
hahajoker said:
Thanks for the info. I forgot all about good ol Knox and all the bull**** that comes with it. I want to like the Note 5 but Samsung is making it really hard.
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Well I am using my note5 and I have to say I really do enjoy the phone, but I am coming from an LG G2, coming from something else it may not be as good of an option.
Kaboose666 said:
Well I am using my note5 and I have to say I really do enjoy the phone, but I am coming from an LG G2, coming from something else it may not be as good of an option.
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I'm coming from a nexus 6. I love my phone and I'd rather not switch but in order to get free of T-mobile the cheapest route is to upgrade to a flip phone and pay it off immediately. That means I have to turn in my Nexus.
Verizon has always been super slow to support anything. ATT has too, but not as slow as Verizon. Verizon and samsung pay.
mircury said:
Verizon has always been super slow to support anything. ATT has too, but not as slow as Verizon. Verizon and samsung pay.
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Think I'm done with Verizon. Att offering $300 to switch. Think I'm going to do it. And get monthly data rollover.
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