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hello all,
I wanted the details of wm 6.5/6.5.3 core, that is the description of every file present in msxipkernal and sys. By sys i dont mean simply the package but all other internal dll's like those present in os folder or so. I tried to search msdn or so... but they seems to provide detail for app development only so is there any site, forum, thread where i can have those description?
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Would be nice to have this info in one spot to reference. Wish I knew more about Windows Mobile to help you.
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Would be nice to have this info in one spot to reference. Wish I knew more about Windows Mobile to help you.
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its k buddy lets see if someone has got something to help us.
It would be very helpful specially for chiefs currently what we do is normally cook and suddenly get a new info and try them, once we have full details we can reach new levels.
well well well. its seems that one of our own has made the news... Great jobs guys...
A developer on the XDA forums recently posted a whitepaper showing how one could possibly crack the Windows Phone 7 marketplace. Not long after those instructions were posted, another "white hat" developer, whose goal was to show the Marketplace's vulnerability, created an application that allowed him to download apps from the Marketplace for free to unlocked WP7 phones.
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For more info read here...http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=12239
Ok, really, did Microsoft pay to have this forum created?
This is a desktop oriented OS... Sure, it WORKS on some Tablet PCs.. Not many and really, who has them?
This is a hacking/developing/home-brew community. Microsoft runs services for consumers, not developers. Android is the most used OS on the forums and I consider it crap that XDA has placed Windows in the position of honor.
XDA (Cross-Digital Assistant) is for Cellular Digital Assistants and and Personal Digital Assistants. Windows 8 is neither. It supports concepts from Windows Phone 7, but we would not have a iOS forum and we would not have a Kubuntu forum.
I vote the forum be removed. I also vote that XDA stop selling out.
Reserved so the first post won't be a microsoft consumer representative posing as a user.
AdamOutler said:
Android is the most used OS on the forums and I consider it crap that XDA has placed Windows in the position of honor
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Interesting idea. Let me inform you sir, that this forum has always been Windows Mobile centric since and/or from it's foundation (Hopefully I'm not mistaken). Then along came Android and things got.. Well let's say complicated.
The "free" approach that Google has installed in all of you, has created a whole bunch whiners and trolls who feel entitled that everything should be given to them without any sacrifice from the user. Not like this was any different when it was Windows Mobile only, but we had our secluded spot.
I do not care for Android but everyone should have their own space, understood?
OR
Technology changes faster than the blink of an eye, and if you are reluctant to change, you are in the wrong forum.
Believe me, XDA for me used to be one of those "secret-spots" I'd come to have a nice read and communicate with new and old members alike.
Ever since Android has been introduced to XDA, things have gotten more intense, like debates among who's OS is better or not (Even in Non-Android forums)... something that I may not care but YET I respect others wishes.
Needless to say, I hope you revise your post and be MINDFUL OF OTHERS who will have a need for this forum.
If you do not wish to remain here for a meaningful discussion "On-Topic" mind you, then go back to your Android thread where you belong then.
Thank you and have a nice day. Sometimes it's nice to see things from another perspective, try it once in a while.
I don't get how it can annoy you in any way possible? Just ignore it and you'll be fine. And who knows we could use this to find stuff about which tablets it ports to etc. So IMO it's kinda needed.
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Do you see a Donut, Froyo, Gingerbread or IceCream Sandwich forums here?
Windows has been fundamentally the same since NT. They've partially implemented security permissions and have yet to keep up with the level of Linux in that department. Because of additional convolution, they could have a Windows7/8 forum in addition to the Windows CE forum (which mobile fits into).
There's no call to have a windows 7 and 8 forum at all. Having a new forum for that is like having a new forum for each manufacturer's UI implementation. There's nothing revolutionary about the 8 interface. It's simply hiding the default Windows interface and it's a merge of the Windows7 phone interface into the desktop.
Windows needs to do a total revamp, starting with NTFS. The Filesystem is garbage. It hinders use and development. I know because I have developed Windows applications. Modularisation is the key to a good operating system. Never in my life have I considered a partial implementation of permissions (Windows 7 and vista), nor a Skinned UI(Windows 8), nor merging of a mobile and a desktop platform into a single interface (Windows 8), worthy of an entire forum.
Windows CE variants, and Windows Vista variants... Sure. Windows 8 is not XDA material. It's not a digital assitant like WP7, and it's not a phone. Howabout a Windows forum with Arm and x86 categories?
AdamOutler said:
"Do you see a Donut, Froyo, Gingerbread or IceCream Sandwich forums here?"
"Windows has been fundamentally the same since NT. They've partially implemented security permissions and have yet to keep up with the level of Linux in that department"
"Windows needs to do a total revamp, starting with NTFS. The Filesystem is garbage. It hinders use and development. I know because I have developed Windows applications"
"Modularisation is the key to a good operating system. Never in my life have I considered a partial implementation of permissions (Windows 7 and vista), nor a Skinned UI(Windows 8), nor merging of a mobile and a desktop platform into a single interface (Windows 8), worthy of an entire forum"
"Windows CE variants, and Windows Vista variants... Sure. Windows 8 is not XDA material. It's not a digital assitant like WP7, and it's not a phone"
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Dude, leave the fanboyism aside. All the above are not facts, but YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion ALONE.
This is exactly the same thing I was talking about. You obviously have no interest on a Windows forum.
YET you are here trolling because YOU do not agree with it, so therefore NO ONE ELSE can have it??
Should I complain to XDA (i.e) Because Google has privacy issues AND violates them on a constant basis, so therefore we shouldn't have Android? NO, simply NO.
These are opinions and not facts.
XDA is set up in this place to CONTRIBUTE and DISCUSS material ON TOPIC of the above mentioned forum, not to spew hatred because you simply do not agree with.
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Dude, leave the fanboyism aside. All the above are not facts, but YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion ALONE.
This is exactly the same thing I was talking about. You obviously have no interest on a Windows forum.
YET you are here trolling because YOU do not agree with it, so therefore NO ONE ELSE can have it??
Should I complain to XDA (i.e) Because Google has privacy issues AND violates them on a constant basis, so therefore we shouldn't have Android? NO, simply NO.
These are opinions and not facts.
XDA is set up in this place to CONTRIBUTE and DISCUSS material ON TOPIC of the above mentioned forum, not to spew hatred because you simply do not agree with.
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No sir, you are exhibiting fanboyism. If you've ever tried to program cross-platform then you will realize how convoluted and screwed up Windows methods are.
Hardware abstractions requiring proprietary drivers hinder development
Interfacing devices requires implementations of $10,000 signatures from Microsoft
Utilizing user granted elevated permissions requires 30 additional steps to a program
Tools which assist with elevation of permissions are considered "Malware"
Installation of applications requires access to a unorganized "database" called the registry
Utilizing pieces of equipment which you have purchased in a different way is entirely too convoluted to even consider for any sort of software distribution.
Microsoft's provided generic drivers are buggy, so you can test and pay to sign if you're serious.
If you'd like links to any of the above, I'll show you in code, or examples I've dealt with in the last few months. Why do you deal with them? Because you're told by the mass market that it's what you want. It came on your computer. You learned it.
These are normal every-day life for you when you run Windows. Learn Linux and you will not have these problems. You will soon learn that they are *IN FACT* problems. They require several work-arounds and cash in order to utilize your creative freedoms as a developer.
You say opinion, I throw the gauntlet sir.
Well, I'm not bigger Linux fan than Windows, I use Windows for everyday. But really, Windows 8 is not available for ARM, and we don't know for sure if it will ever be, and when. So I see no point on making 2 boards for Beta release of some system.
I don't see boards for Fedora, Ubuntu, RedHat, Knoppix. Most of them are more available for XDA devices than Win8 (more is not appropriate word here, as its like dividing 1 by 0 for now)
I see no place for Win8 boards on XDA Developers for now, while it has got nothing to do with portable devices but some press notes.
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No sir, you are exhibiting fanboyism. If you've ever tried to program cross-platform then you will realize how convoluted and screwed up Windows methods are.
Hardware abstractions requiring proprietary drivers hinder development
Interfacing devices requires implementations of $10,000 signatures from Microsoft
Utilizing user granted elevated permissions requires 30 additional steps to a program
Tools which assist with elevation of permissions are considered "Malware"
Installation of applications requires access to a unorganized "database" called the registry
Utilizing pieces of equipment which you have purchased in a different way is entirely too convoluted to even consider for any sort of software distribution.
Microsoft's provided generic drivers are buggy, so you can test and pay to sign if you're serious.
If you'd like links to any of the above, I'll show you in code, or examples I've dealt with in the last few months. Why do you deal with them? Because you're told by the mass market that it's what you want. It came on your computer. You learned it.
These are normal every-day life for you when you run Windows. Learn Linux and you will not have these problems. You will soon learn that they are *IN FACT* problems. They require several work-arounds and cash in order to utilize your creative freedoms as a developer.
You say opinion, I throw the gauntlet sir.
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Adam, I have read your post in it's entirety and I have to say that even if these issues are preventing development, you came into this forum and I quote: ("Android is the most used OS on the forums and I consider it crap that XDA has placed Windows in the position of honor" "Ok, really, did Microsoft pay to have this forum created?").
Do you really think that this is are reasons enough to have it your way? Would you be happy if I went and trashed the Android forums just for the fun of it? If you would have posted this in the Android forums, you would have not heard from me at all. The issue at hand, that I see.. Os that you come into this forum insulting XDA and the future users of this forum and then say, this shouldn't be here at all.
Your complaints cannot be fixed in this forum at all, because XDA was designed to find tweaks and even hacks etc to make our OS better and responsive. Are you so mad that you are willing to deny the chance to other users because of your own jealousy and hatred for such a corporation?
Learn to share and let others live as they see fit. If Windows works for them, then it does, period. Or would you rather have them all move to chromium and/or Google products? That's very kind of you but users do not need to be berated for choosing as such. This is more on the lines of fanboyism. I said it before.
Would you be okay if I do the same on the Android forums?
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Adam, I have read your post in it's entirety and I have to say that even if these issues are preventing development, you came into this forum and I quote: ("Android is the most used OS on the forums and I consider it crap that XDA has placed Windows in the position of honor" "Ok, really, did Microsoft pay to have this forum created?").
Do you really think that this is are reasons enough to have it your way? Would you be happy if I went and trashed the Android forums just for the fun of it? If you would have posted this in the Android forums, you would have not heard from me at all. The issue at hand, that I see.. Os that you come into this forum insulting XDA and the future users of this forum and then say, this shouldn't be here at all.
Your complaints cannot be fixed in this forum at all, because XDA was designed to find tweaks and even hacks etc to make our OS better and responsive. Are you so mad that you are willing to deny the chance to other users because of your own jealousy and hatred for such a corporation?
Learn to share and let others live as they see fit. If Windows works for them, then it does, period. Or would you rather have them all move to chromium and/or Google products? That's very kind of you but users do not need to be berated for choosing as such. This is more on the lines of fanboyism. I said it before.
Would you be okay if I do the same on the Android forums?
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XDA was designed for PDA and CDA devices.. Not desktop operating systems. Anything designed in Windows 8 will have to be redesigned for any sort of XDA device. It's a desktop operating system, not a XDA operating system. This was stated upon release of Windows 8 developer preview.
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AdamOutler said:
XDA was designed for PDA and CDA devices.. Not desktop operating systems. Anything designed in Windows 8 will have to be redesigned for any sort of XDA device. It's a desktop operating system, not a XDA operating system. This was stated upon release of Windows 8 developer preview.
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This should have been your first post instead. I do not disagree whether the forum should exist here or not, but rather the manner you come in busting doors left and right only to proclaim Android as king of these forums and who knows what.
I understand your motives and why you feel as you do. I do not take that away from you, neither it's my intention. Its just that everyone has the right to have something, and if Linux was to be added tomorrow, I'd be happier for those who will make the most of it. Even if unrelated as it may be.
I only want to convey the message that one-sided approaches will get alot of people offended. That is all I want you to see.
I respect your opinion, and I feel you bring up a good point. I wish I could help to make that situation better but unfortunately I do not have such knowledge.
But this forum is my home now, as new as it may be it will be of the utmost help to me and perhaps other users.
And I had felt insulted that you accused XDA of selling out (Your home) and that you are trying to take my home away.
I only hope you can be comprehensive of my side as well and that we can both stand in the common ground.
I understand. We don't need a new forum for every version of Windows.. We don't have a forum for every version of Chrome. We don't have a forum for every version of Android. We don't have a forum for every version of OS-X. This is not a XDA OS. It's a Desktop OS. You will not be developing for this platform as an XDA. Obviously paid advertisement
If they have a Windows 8 forum, they need a Ubuntu forum and a OS-X forum. It makes no damn sense except that Microsoft has paid off XDA to promote their operating system. I read a statistic last month that the vast majority of people on this forum were on Android. Yet, somehow Microsoft's OSs are all listed at the top. It's not even alphabetical or in any order. Obviously paid advertisement.
Then stack the fact that the Windows 8 is not even a mobile OS. Microsoft has officially released that mobile and desktop apps will be mutually exclusive because of architecture and battery life. This is not a mobile development platform. Obviously paid advertisement
Microsoft is ****ting on my home. Might as well call it Computer-Developers.com
I mean seriously Microsoft.... How the **** can you make a developer release when the developer tools dont work?
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And somehow get sponsored on a mobile device forum with a Desktop OS..
This is absolute bull****.
Well that's Microsoft. For ya.
Please pardon me as I have been drinking and tend to say thing from the heart.
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I mean seriously Microsoft.... How the **** can you make a developer release when the developer tools dont work?
And somehow get sponsored on a mobile device forum with a Desktop OS..
This is absolute bull****.
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Hey Adam you might wanna calm down. Your childish side is showing
If you can't make a coherent discussion then you do not deserve to even be here at all. I tried to do it differently and you can't even properly answer back.
This discussion is over and I hope that if a mod sees this, just close it or lock it. Anyways, thanks for trying at least, it was entertaining and I hope we meet again.
Take care and have a nice day.
Just the name of the thread had my trollsenses tingling. Great stuff Adam.
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Just the name of the thread had my trollsenses tingling. Great stuff Adam.
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This is not a troll thread. Its blatently obvious why a desktop OS has no place on XDA developers. They have no plan for a mobile version yet.
Dude. Get over it. If you don't like it then don't read the forum. Pretty damn simple.
Really, I'm not joking here.. I've seen this before. Lockergnome used to be reserved for the technically savy until they started the forums and everyone signed up to ask questions. It used to be a series of blogs and a newsletter with quality control. That control is now gone and the articles are just about "cool stuff" that people think is smart. At one point it was technical, now it's artsy.
The thing that keeps this forum prestigious is that it is limited to a certain kind of device. This will open the flood gates for noobs to ask questions about EVERYTHING computer related. Once that starts, we will be tailoring to the masses. The noobs will take over and basically turn the place into another garbage forum like http://www.lockergnome.com/ . It will take 2 years. Mark.
Please, XDA, I urge you.. Contact User Experience Admin Svetius Windows 8 is a desktop OS, not a mobile OS. It is not designed for any mobile device. If you care about the forums, lets try to keep the desktop and laptop stuff out.
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Really, I'm not joking here.. I've seen this before. Lockergnome used to be reserved for the technically savy until they started the forums and everyone signed up to ask questions. It used to be a series of blogs and a newsletter with quality control. That control is now gone and the articles are just about "cool stuff" that people think is smart. At one point it was technical, now it's artsy.
The thing that keeps this forum prestigious is that it is limited to a certain kind of device. This will open the flood gates for noobs to ask questions about EVERYTHING computer related. Once that starts, we will be tailoring to the masses. The noobs will take over and basically turn the place into another garbage forum like http://www.lockergnome.com/ . It will take 2 years. Mark.
Please, XDA, I urge you.. Contact User Experience Admin Svetius Windows 8 is a desktop OS, not a mobile OS. It is not designed for any mobile device. If you care about the forums, lets try to keep the desktop and laptop stuff out.
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I'll kill this argument
Windows 8 is a desktop OS, yep surely is. But it also has ARM support and has ARM support for a pretty long time (since about 7850, which was the January build).
Now what do the majority of phones run? ARM. Windows 8 is on a forum where phones run ARM processors...It's pretty simple the reason
Same reason why the htc tablet (running vista and windows mobile) had its own forum. It's not as if this hasn't occurred before...
Just let it go
A.I Watch Quad-Core Android 4.4 Smart Watch
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A.I WATCH SPECIFICATIONS:
Processor : Quad Core 1.3GHz (Octo-core option as well now)
O.S : A.I UI 2.0 / Android 4.4 (Kit Kat)
Network : GSM, WCDMA (3G) Frequency : GSM 850/900/1800/1900 Frequency : WCDMA (3G) 850/1900/2100 MHZ (workable all over the world)
Flash : Ram: 512 Mb Rom : 4GB Micro SD slot - up to 32GB
Display : 1.54, RGB 240*240 dots Touch Screen : Curve Touch Screen
Speaker : Speaker/Headphone 2 in 1
Microphone : 4015 Bluetooth 4 : Support Bluetooth Stereo Headset, support video audio; Support data transfer and receive; Support calling via Bluetooth Headset
Camera : 5 Megapixel (720p video recording)
USB Port : Micro 7 pin port: downloading, charging, data transfer and headset use (4 in 1)
Antenna : GSM+ Bluetooth + GPS +WIFI antenna inside
Vibration motor : Yes
Gravity Sensor : Acelerometer, E-Compass, Gyroscope
Battery : Lithium ion battery, 800mAh GPRS : Support
Internet use : Support
WIFI : Support
GPS : Support
Media : Mp3, Mp4 Support
FM : Support
Voice Recording : Support
SMS/MMS : Support
Hands Free : Support
WebSite: www.aiwatchtech.com
Indiegogo Campaign (closed): http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-i-watch-smartwatch-the-new-intelligence-life-is-here
Some History
OK, lets get some difficult stuff out the way first. There was a previous thread about the AI Watch, that went a bit off the rails. with claims of it being a scam or a clone and counter claims etc. It all got rather unpleasant.
The thread got cleaned up a bit and locked by a moderator. I thought it would be worth opening a new one, since I am very interested in this. I've discussed it with a moderator and got the green light.
BUT
Please keep it civil, on topic and avoid attacks etc. Moderators will be keeping an eye on it and take action should it start going off the rails again...
For those that have concerns/questions, they can read the old thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468854
As far as I can see, it isn't a scam or a clone. Others may disagree... That's not what this thread is supposed to be about.
For what it's worth, I placed a Pre-Order for the watch after the Indiegogo campaign closed. My card was not charged, only an agreement was set up to charge me at a later date.
I asked A.I Watch what the intentions were regarding charging me and was told they don't intend to charge until the watch is ready to ship. And there is an option on there to request cancellation.
So despite a bumpy start, it all sounds genuine to me...
When will it ship?
Excellent question.
My understanding is that the initial Indigogo campaign aim was to ship End Dec. 2013 (some campaign backer are are going to be getting jumpy as you would expect). But there has been a substantial overhaul of the design since the start of the campaign (for the better) and so the schedule has been pushed back.
At the time of posting, A.I Watch are not comfortable with committing to a new date yet. Which is not what we want to hear of course, but is arguably better than constantly giving dates, then changing them at the last minute and repeatedly letting everyone down.
Thinking of placing a Pre-Order ?
UPDATED 18/01/2014:
Initial round of first 100 coupons finished. But got an email from them. The important bit:
"but I decide to continue and create for XDA community members new coupons.
I create a new coupon for Developers only : They will need to write me or to A.I Watch Team a email with a little portfolio about their latest apps developments.
They will able to choose any A.I Watch model they will want and they will receive it Rooted with the SDK.
Second coupon is for all the XDA Community Members, they will need just to send to A.I Watch Team (contactATaiwatchtechDOTcom) an email with the model of their choice and will receive back a Special XDA coupon."
I'm assuming if you can show a genuine Dev. angle, then you get a bigger discount voucher...
If you fall into that camp, may make more sense to just sign up on the forum as well and send him a PM.
Finally, if you are wondering why some of the language is a bit wrong. It's a French company, and the English is better than my French...
And with that, let the (good natured) discussions begin
UPDATE (03/05/14):
New Video showing final working design.
Latest Prototype. Pic taken at CES
A.I Watch described as "a quick picture of the first CNC on my wrist, its still not the final model is a appearance sample to see where are all the defaults of the ID/MD"
Good idea Zuber to start a new thread, and even a better idea for you to handle AI Watch PR on XDA Everybody already expressed their opinions, so let's just leave it in 2013, and start 2014 with actual updates about development progress, latest pictures, and videos (especially videos!!!)
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Good idea Zuber to start a new thread, and even a better idea for you to handle AI Watch PR on XDA Everybody already expressed their opinions, so let's just leave it in 2013, and start 2014 with actual updates about development progress, latest pictures, and videos (especially videos!!!)
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Old one was locked for obvious reasons, the device is interesting and I want an unaffiliated forum to discuss. Using the Omate forum wouldn't be appropriate and A.I forum would be too restrictive.
Been on and off XDA for years and it's a good site to discuss Smart Watches !
Put an initial pic. of 'progress' as you put it. Hopefully we see some more after CES.
I think more (unsuccessful) PeaceKeeper than PR Agent
Great job Zuber. Mine is ordered as well, I saw potential with this watch since I read about it early December. The Quad core processor and camera flash/flashlight did it for me. The look of the watch may not be for everyone but I feel its well suited for my taste. It's a nice blend between sporty and classy. I want to be able to wear it to the office and on my morning run.
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Asked A.I Watch about discount code and also what chip it would be using. To Quote:
the first hundred that will send us a mail to : contactATaiwatchtechDOTcom : (edit to correct) with the A.I Watch model of there choice will receive a special pre order coupon and instructions how to enter it.
Also please note that they will be not charged until there A.I Watch will be ready to be ship.
A.I Watch smartwatch - Run Android 4.4 Kit Kat - is powered by a Quad-core MTK 6582 SoC paired with 512MB of RAM and 4GB of storage.
Thanks for closing my original thread and opening this one I mean wtf? Why? :/ it said the other would be re opened if it was found out to be real. And said the thread was cleaned up so I see no point in this new thread and its unfair on me too.
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Thanks for closing my original thread and opening this one I mean wtf? Why? :/ it said the other would be re opened if it was found out to be real. And said the thread was cleaned up so I see no point in this new thread and its unfair on me too.
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Closing of that thread has nothing to do with Zuber opening a new one. It was a decision made by XDA admins, so you should contact them. Beside, if you think about it, that thread was related to IGG campaign of the original AI Watch version, while this is a new all updated version outside of IGG. Makes sense not to mix these two together.
NEW IMAGES
Not the final product some component improvements and adjustments will be made to accommodate the wrist.
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NachTSS said:
Thanks for closing my original thread and opening this one I mean wtf? Why? :/ it said the other would be re opened if it was found out to be real. And said the thread was cleaned up so I see no point in this new thread and its unfair on me too.
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I agree, don't see any difference with this thread.
That being said, the other one is locked.
On topic:
When is it supposed to ship?
vectron said:
Closing of that thread has nothing to do with Zuber opening a new one. It was a decision made by XDA admins, so you should contact them. Beside, if you think about it, that thread was related to IGG campaign of the original AI Watch version, while this is a new all updated version outside of IGG. Makes sense not to mix these two together.
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Its no different to what omate did they used another watch as a prototype too so I really don't agree with you and think it should all have been in one thread.
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Not the final product some component improvements and adjustments will be made to accommodate the wrist.
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Its the first CNC prototype.
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vikemosabe said:
I agree, don't see any difference with this thread.
That being said, the other one is locked.
On topic:
When is it supposed to ship?
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Not sure what the big deal is here guys ?
Old one started and finished is it a scam or not, got somewhat nasty and got locked.
I want to discuss the watch, not is it a scam etc. and got the all clear from mods to go ahead and create a new one. I've made a point of explaining some of this and linking to the old thread so people that are interested about any issues can can read up on it.
imho... - Anyone interested in placing a pre-order can feel as safe as for any other new company and product.
If you have still have concerns about if the product is a scam or whatever, feel free to open another thread on the subject. Note, as was mentioned, I am not a moderator and had nothing to do with the old thread being closed. You might want to check with mods first.
RE: "I see no point in this new thread and its unfair on me too"
Apologies, don't want to take away from your efforts. At this point I'd like everyone to know that credit should go to you for whatever it is that you think the credit should go to you for
Seriously, though. If it upsets you, please feel free to open another thread and I'll post on there. Maybe we can ask a mod to delete this one or something. As long as it's to discuss the watch, not is it a scam etc. Alternatively, we can discuss the watch...
Maybe threads can be merged?
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vikemosabe said:
When is it supposed to ship?
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As per first post. Not offering a date yet. My guesstimate is March or later. But it isn't based on anything concrete other than it's obviously not ready to ship any day now...
Zuber said:
Old one started and finished is it a scam or not...
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I realize he stated that he was concerned about it being a scam, but I didn't feel as though that was the point of his topic.
At any rate, if you got mod approval, have at it, I will say no more regarding it.
Zuber said:
As per first post. Not offering a date yet. My guesstimate is March or later. But it isn't based on anything concrete other than it's obviously not ready to ship any day now...
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Uh, sorry, missed that.
I am debating ordering one.
I don't much care for the company or the creator, but I don't really have to as long as it's a quality product
NachTSS said:
Its no different to what omate did they used another watch as a prototype too so I really don't agree with you and think it should all have been in one thread.
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As I said before, the decisions on this forum are made by Moderators. It has nothing to do with what I say or what Zuber says or what you say. Also, I think you took it a bit too personal when that thread was closed; even so it was started by you - that consequent action of locking the thread had nothing to do with anything you did personally. We are all members of this community and post according to rules/guidelines. Mods monitor these threads, and if they see things getting out of hand - THEY make a decision about how to proceed, doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with me. So let's just end this argument here because I wouldn't advice questioning Mods decisions, and lets focus on updates from AI Watch or any other new or upcoming smartwatches. OK, bud?
Camera is now confirmed to be full Autofocus 5MP Camera not a 3MP interpolated to 5MP fixed focus like Omate's
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As I said before, the decisions on this forum are made by Moderators. It has nothing to do with what I say or what Zuber says or what you say. Also, I think you took it a bit too personal when that thread was closed; even so it was started by you - that consequent action of locking the thread had nothing to do with anything you did personally. We are all members of this community and post according to rules/guidelines. Mods monitor these threads, and if they see things getting out of hand - THEY make a decision about how to proceed, doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with me. So let's just end this argument here because I wouldn't advice questioning Mods decisions, and lets focus on updates from AI Watch or any other new or upcoming smartwatches. OK, bud?
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I was not trying to focus on omate I was using it as an example and I always try stick to the rules its why I put on my threads when I made them please let me know if this is in the right place etc. I have no intention to course any drama at all and I gave you my reasons for what I said I'm sorry if it came across as hostile I just tend to speak my mind is all.
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XandroidX said:
Camera is now confirmed to be full Autofocus 5MP Camera not a 3MP interpolated to 5MP fixed focus like Omate's
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That's great means it should actually be useful
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I think its a shame they couldn't have put 1gb ram and at least 8gb storage in it but it def seems like it's going to still be one of if not the best smart watch their is overall ATM when it does finally get shipped
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NachTSS said:
I think its a shame they couldn't have put 1gb ram and at least 8gb storage in it...
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I read somewhere that they are working on that.
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I think its a shame they couldn't have put 1gb ram and at least 8gb storage in it...
I read somewhere that they are working on that.
Definitely maybe. Don't pin your hopes on it. If all the hype on KitKat is to be believed, then the 512MB Ram shouldn't matter so much.
Hello everyone,
kind of new around here, but hopefully will get the hang of the forums pretty soon.
I'm currently looking to upgrade a few PCs from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro. I know I can upgrade "in place" (install Win 10 "on top" of Win 7), but since it's also time for Hardware upgrades, I might as well do a fresh install.
My question is, when I buy the Win 10 Pro license keys, will I be able to reinstall in the future with said keys?
I know you can also use a microsoft account to register Win 10 Pro automatically, but can you "store" more tan one license key in a microsoft account?
Any help is appreciated.
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Hello everyone,
kind of new around here, but hopefully will get the hang of the forums pretty soon.
I'm currently looking to upgrade a few PCs from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro. I know I can upgrade "in place" (install Win 10 "on top" of Win 7), but since it's also time for Hardware upgrades, I might as well do a fresh install.
My question is, when I buy the Win 10 Pro license keys, will I be able to reinstall in the future with said keys?
I know you can also use a microsoft account to register Win 10 Pro automatically, but can you "store" more tan one license key in a microsoft account?
Any help is appreciated.
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insofar as your first question, yes. Windows will notice certain hardware changes and prompt you to activate windows and it will say that your serial is already in use, at which point when i was personally doing this, i had to call MSFT and have a lil chat with one of their representatives and give them the serial numbers off the products i had removed from the rig i was repairing. The fella gave me a new activation code and its been gucci ever since.
to your second question, im not sure if you can store more than one activation code or not, but a logical case can be made to support either side of that debate. Anyways, i cant help ya on that one. cheers mate
psallitesapienter said:
Hello everyone,
kind of new around here, but hopefully will get the hang of the forums pretty soon.
I'm currently looking to upgrade a few PCs from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro. I know I can upgrade "in place" (install Win 10 "on top" of Win 7), but since it's also time for Hardware upgrades, I might as well do a fresh install.
My question is, when I buy the Win 10 Pro license keys, will I be able to reinstall in the future with said keys?
I know you can also use a microsoft account to register Win 10 Pro automatically, but can you "store" more tan one license key in a microsoft account?
Any help is appreciated.
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I think this Microsoft's article covers some scenarios about your questions, pretty much I guess:
support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change
@moderators: sorry I needed to post a link to help this person, it's not spam.
Sklipnott said:
I think this Microsoft's article covers some scenarios about your questions, pretty much I guess:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change
@moderators: sorry I needed to post a link to help this person, it's not spam.
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Moderator s don't check every thread.
XDA relies on members reporting things that requires moderator action.
[Using "Report" button] How to Report issues / Moderators assistance by TonyStark
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1718423
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Alternatively you could have quoted Youdoofus or
mentioned him by using @ username (no space)
Like @Sklipnott
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Also it's be over a month since psallitesapienter posted he likely found a solution.
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sd_shadow said:
Moderator s don't check every thread.
[/COLOR]Also it's be over a month since psallitesapienter posted he likely found a solution.
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1: yes we do!!! WE ARE OMNIPOTENT!!! ok, maybe we dont, but.... LoL
2: i often find myself thinking the same thing when im perusing threads, but man, youd be surprised. i find threads that are 30+ days old and post solutions that then get replies saying it worked\need more help\new issue emerged. Shoot, for that matter, Im having an issue i posted up in howard forums and still have the issue extant.