Hey guys
I have a brand new GS5 and the batterylife is nowhere close to what reviews say. Yes I get 20+ hours but that is only counting in all the hours I am asleep.
When taking it off the charger and just browsing the web on autobrightness inside in just under a hour the battery is at 79 percent while on wifi...
Also Android system is what consumes the most. How can I fix this ? I don't want to root it yet but if I must do that that's fine for me.
Also while sleeping the battery loses 12 percent in just 6 hours. This can't be right ?
soulaiman said:
Hey guys
I have a brand new GS5 and the batterylife is nowhere close to what reviews say. Yes I get 20+ hours but that is only counting in all the hours I am asleep.
When taking it off the charger and just browsing the web on autobrightness inside in just under a hour the battery is at 79 percent while on wifi...
Also Android system is what consumes the most. How can I fix this ? I don't want to root it yet but if I must do that that's fine for me.
Also while sleeping the battery loses 12 percent in just 6 hours. This can't be right ?
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bear in mind battery technology hasnt advanced quite as far as screens and connectivity has. we have bigger screens and constant connected wifi and apps.
you're not going to get all the battery life you want. under mdium use id say this phone is about 12 hours use
Yes I know that buy it is worse than my s4 and even moto g. It can't be right. I've owned the one M8 and it should more or less like that phone but it is not by FAR. I wish I didn't break my z2, that phone couldn't be sucked dry in one day.
All this aside : if Android kernel and system is using the most energy something must be wrong
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Yes I know that buy it is worse than my s4 and even moto g. It can't be right. I've owned the one M8 and it should more or less like that phone but it is not by FAR. I wish I didn't break my z2, that phone couldn't be sucked dry in one day.
All this aside : if Android kernel and system is using the most energy something must be wrong
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ok let me ask you this then instead
how much battery life do you want from a device that has a 1080p screen, wifi, 4g and a cpu thats higher than a P4 desktop?
-PiLoT- said:
ok let me ask you this then instead
how much battery life do you want from a device that has a 1080p screen, wifi, 4g and a cpu thats higher than a P4 desktop?
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Let me say you this: that's not the point. Don't try to defend samsung because you like them.
To the point: this is one of their flagship devices and I know that normally it should last a lot longer than it does now. And to answer your question it should last almost as long as the one M8 wich has near identical hardware but a less big battery.
My xperia z2 with the same chip but an even bigger display that is brighter lasted at least 22 hours with 7 hours screen on time. Yes it had a 400mAh bigger battery but that doesn't mean that there should be such a big differencr in things like browsing the web. A 1 to 1,5 hour difference yes maybe. That being said I clearly have problems with my battery draining while I'm asleep.
I have owned two s801 devices and I know it is a really power effecient chip so it is not normal that I lose 30 percent after 1 hour on really low brightness. The fact that android system and kernel is at the top of the power consumption chart is also an inidcation that there is something wrong with the firmware. I tought someone could help me that has had the same problem by suggesting for example debloating the rom, installing a certain kernel, disabling a certain samsung app and so on.
So if you have nothing better so say please may I ask you to not respond so that this thread can be maybe somewhat usefull to other users
Root, takes of all. Touchwiz craps and change a kernel you get more battery life.
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Let me say you this: that's not the point. Don't try to defend samsung because you like them.
To the point: this is one of their flagship devices and I know that normally it should last a lot longer than it does now. And to answer your question it should last almost as long as the one M8 wich has near identical hardware but a less big battery.
My xperia z2 with the same chip but an even bigger display that is brighter lasted at least 22 hours with 7 hours screen on time. Yes it had a 400mAh bigger battery but that doesn't mean that there should be such a big differencr in things like browsing the web. A 1 to 1,5 hour difference yes maybe. That being said I clearly have problems with my battery draining while I'm asleep.
I have owned two s801 devices and I know it is a really power effecient chip so it is not normal that I lose 30 percent after 1 hour on really low brightness. The fact that android system and kernel is at the top of the power consumption chart is also an inidcation that there is something wrong with the firmware. I tought someone could help me that has had the same problem by suggesting for example debloating the rom, installing a certain kernel, disabling a certain samsung app and so on.
So if you have nothing better so say please may I ask you to not respond so that this thread can be maybe somewhat usefull to other users
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my opinions are as valid as yours. am assuming ur running full stock
i have 1d1m so far on mine, what i did was root and use the debloater
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Root, takes of all. Touchwiz craps and change a kernel you get more battery life.
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I will try the Aroma debloater. If that is not enough I will root and install adaway plus a cystom kernal
Any recomendations for a stable one for touchwizz ?
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I am within the return period of my G2, but not sure if my battery life is normal or not? I get 3-4 hours screen time on VZW 4G, with sync on and all GPS and NFC related stuff off, running a de-bloated LG rom. All the reviews I have read they getting 6-8 hours of screen time, pretty much twice of what I am getting. Is this normal or do I have a defective devices? I kind of don't want to return as I have a screen protector I got at the same time I got the G2 and hat the store install so that makes transferring the protector harder? If it really is defected, then I must return it, but how can one tell if battery is really defective or actually normal?
On a side note I know people with Galaxy S4 getting similar battery life as me, but I would think that would be expected since the S4 has a smaller battery vs the G2. Thanks.
Check your pvs
dmesg | grep PVS
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Check your pvs
dmesg | grep PVS
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What is one looking for with that command? I get the number "1" after running it. Wha does that mean?
tbaker077 said:
I am within the return period of my G2, but not sure if my battery life is normal or not? I get 3-4 hours screen time on VZW 4G, with sync on and all GPS and NFC related stuff off, running a de-bloated LG rom. All the reviews I have read they getting 6-8 hours of screen time, pretty much twice of what I am getting. Is this normal or do I have a defective devices? I kind of don't want to return as I have a screen protector I got at the same time I got the G2 and hat the store install so that makes transferring the protector harder? If it really is defected, then I must return it, but how can one tell if battery is really defective or actually normal?
On a side note I know people with Galaxy S4 getting similar battery life as me, but I would think that would be expected since the S4 has a smaller battery vs the G2. Thanks.
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Depends on many things and mainly what brightness level u get the screen time u mentioned for. It is normal to get way less screen time with 100% brightness than say with 50% or less brightness. Also u don't mention where u get the said screen time. Is it browsing the net or watching youtube vids for example or playing heavy 3d games? That affects screen time as well. Way too little info u shared here for anyone to be able to really help you...
Try disabling sync, Google now, and have it on 50% auto brightness...it has helped me a lot.
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The OP has a point. I have seen that the Android System takes almost the half of the battery stamina. And after tracking what exactly it came up that the Radio drains to much battery. I try to find solution or anything but didn't find anything yet.....
chaki- said:
The OP has a point. I have seen that the Android System takes almost the half of the battery stamina. And after tracking what exactly it came up that the Radio drains to much battery. I try to find solution or anything but didn't find anything yet.....
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How did you figure out it's the radio, bro? I also have a massive android system drain and I don't know what it is.
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How did you figure out it's the radio, bro? I also have a massive android system drain and I don't know what it is.
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I used wakelock detector. The app showed me that the most power is gone to the radio.
I can't understand a sh*t. Everything was fine and suddenly it starts to consume power like hell. I disabled play services and all apps except play store. Removed unused apps even those from LG like dictionary etc. Now i am at 87% with 1hr 14min screen time and android system is still with biggest rate of power consume. At least android os is no more second power consumer....... i am goin nuts right now....
Even my SXL after all updates with everything on has less power drain then the G2...and the most consume comes from the screen.
I disabled knock on and I am at 85% with 1h 8 min sot. Android OS is the second highest drain but android system has settled down a bit.
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Hi guys,
So bought the Verizon Galaxy S5 for my fiance when it came out. Over the past week or two it's been dying rather quickly. Attached are some battery metrics I took from the screenshot. Do they look normal to you?
It looks like the android system is using up all the battery, but I'm not sure why this is.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Mike
It seems your Gps is on.
Keep GPS off.(Location).
This will help you to boost your battery.
this is perfectly normal. having 35% after 8 hours is actually average
WCM3 said:
Hi guys,
So bought the Verizon Galaxy S5 for my fiance when it came out. Over the past week or two it's been dying rather quickly. Attached are some battery metrics I took from the screenshot. Do they look normal to you?
It looks like the android system is using up all the battery, but I'm not sure why this is.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Mike
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Do you remember what the screen time was from those screenshots? Android OS at 60% seems really high
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WCM3 said:
Hi guys,
So bought the Verizon Galaxy S5 for my fiance when it came out. Over the past week or two it's been dying rather quickly.
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You have unrealistic expectations. Using two thirds of the charge over 8 hours is not atypical. Why do you believe otherwise?
You can do various tweaks to gain a few hours e.g. GPS always off, short screen time outs, perhaps install some inverted apps (black themed screens use considerably less battery), et cetera. Or perhaps invest in an extended capacity battery. Or some people feel that it is easier to carry a spare battery.
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What is everyone on in this thread?! 8 hours is nothing and unless you have been gaming non stop, which seems doubtful considering the display being almost non existent in the log, you should normally get at least 24-48 hours with about 3-5 hours of screen time. Something is wrong with either the software or the battery, but normally it is a software problem, BBS is your friend.
johan81 said:
should normally get at least 24-48 hours
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You sir, are a troll until proven otherwise. You are simply wrong, perhaps the reason why all of the other posts disagree with you. 24+ hours is not normal. The only way anyone would get that kind of duration is to have the phone off most of the time and most people do not use their phones that way. The OP had 8.6 hours at @ 32% remaining, a wholly normal result.
Certainly battery life varies widely depending on GPS & wifi use, gaming, screen time and so forth. But to claim that 24+ hours is normal is egregiously specious.
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You sir, are a troll until proven otherwise. You are simply wrong, perhaps the reason why all of the other posts disagree with you. 24+ hours is not normal. The only way anyone would get that kind of duration is to have the phone off most of the time and most people do not use their phones that way. The OP had 8.6 hours at @ 32% remaining, a wholly normal result.
Certainly battery life varies widely depending on GPS & wifi use, gaming, screen time and so forth. But to claim that 24+ hours is normal is egregiously specious.
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Wow wow, hold your horses, you are being serious? It is completely normal for me with my 900F model and a lot of people are getting it. 24/48 hours is my typical battery with phone on (the battery obviously doesn't count power off, so that is a moot point anyways). I happened to make a SS last month and will share it for you to see and I didn't even try to save the battery, I never do since the battery of the S5 is so exceptional!
I agree, it does not look normal. Something is probably holding wake locks or working the CPU. There's a lot of badly written apps out there, including some of the most popular. I've seen FB messenger and Slacker radio apps use 2-6% CPU in the background for no good reason, consistently until force closed.
In any case, try to install an app that can read wakelocks, like BetterBatteryStats or GSAM. Also check the tasks screen in Android Tuner to see if something is keeping the CPU busy in the background for no reason.
Once you figure out the abnormal drain, try installing my app, LeanDroid to extend your battery even more
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Hey everyone. Without further a do, I am saying that my N4 battery suuuuucks really bad. Started on stock rom, flashed Chroma w/ latest franco kernel. Nope. Still lots of drain (slightly better overall, but nothibg major). Then flashed hells doctor kernel. Nope. Lots of drain when screen is on, but stable with screen off.
Honestly, I've seen people getting 6h on screen time. And everyone says that these kernels and rom can increase battery life by a margin, while mine stays the same.
Oh and there is a thing. Ive recently broke my stock charger and now using apple's ipad charger. Mine was 1.2 A and the one from apple is 1 A. Is this is an issue we are looking for?
Or its just a 2years old battery running out of its life cycles...?
Thank you!
Seall said:
Hey everyone. Without further a do, I am saying that my N4 battery suuuuucks really bad. Started on stock rom, flashed Chroma w/ latest franco kernel. Nope. Still lots of drain (slightly better overall, but nothibg major). Then flashed hells doctor kernel. Nope. Lots of drain when screen is on, but stable with screen off.
Honestly, I've seen people getting 6h on screen time. And everyone says that these kernels and rom can increase battery life by a margin, while mine stays the same.
Oh and there is a thing. Ive recently broke my stock charger and now using apple's ipad charger. Mine was 1.2 A and the one from apple is 1 A. Is this is an issue we are looking for?
Or its just a 2years old battery running out of its life cycles...?
Thank you!
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Nexus 4 battere sucks really no matter what you plus your network coverage may impact vastly on performance. Anyway given the battery is 2 years old, I would say it's gone even if it says it's good but again it depends on your usage like continuous tethering or other heavy activity that makes the phone run hot
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Nexus 4 battere sucks really no matter what you plus your network coverage may impact vastly on performance. Anyway given the battery is 2 years old, I would say it's gone even if it says it's good but again it depends on your usage like continuous tethering or other heavy activity that makes the phone run hot
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Well my usage can be heavy surfing on FB, Instagram and definetely FB messenger. I often use chrome and mainly everything is done under Wifi.
According to my screenshots, you cannclearly see that shes (battery) is ok when screen is off, no drain and etc. As soon I start using it it drains A LOT. Almost 90° angle on diagram It's crazy.
Plot twist: To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages.
Yes, i have a new battery which was working well, but I flashed factory image 5.1.1 xxx47v and the batt life is really horrible now.
It's easy to replace the battery, I recommend taking out the sim card tray before taking the back off though.
I haven't been on here for a long time, whats the best rom, for batt life. I'm willing to go back to kit kat if I have to .
Also note that some of the screenshots with 6+ hours of SOT the user has handicapped their devices (disable 2 cores, lower max cpu/gpu frequency, etc).
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Also note that some of the screenshots with 6+ hours of SOT the user has handicapped their devices (disable 2 cores, lower max cpu/gpu frequency, etc).
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Yes, I've seen people underlocking, undervolting etc. But that's not what I am planning to do with mine N4. Neither I'm hoping to have 6 hours SOT. 4 would be SUPER COOL. And that seems impossible for my device
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
paco_ramirez said:
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
paco_ramirez said:
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol
My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone
Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).
Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle
I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...
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Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks
Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help
Hello,
I dont really found centralized information about Oreo and feedbacks regarding battery life.
So please, people from Korea and North America, can you provide some feedback about Oreo update, especially about the battery life ?
I heard some negative opinion from this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5hH0TQY6Jg
Before he was at 5-6h SoT, after update 3-4h
Thanks !
It was entirely predictable and expected that there would be no improvement in battery life or performance with Oreo despite all the anticipation.
I have literally NEVER seen a major operating system upgrade actually speed up performance of identical apps on the same device. Sometimes there might be a non-significant decline, but never an improvement.
Each Android upgrade promises some new trick to improve battery life like wakelocks etc, but it's only theoretical and perhaps applies only to brand new hardware.
Otherwise the progressive process of bloating in updated apps and system software use more power and more resources which more than compensate for the supposed improvements in efficiency
I think the few reports that have mentioned improvement are just the random variation that people get, even with Nougat, or even day to day on the same device.
Sometimes I get 1% standby drain per hour and sometimes 3% with no change in use or settings. I have found no consistent way to control this, including trying all of the tips mentioned (except for wiping my phone and starting from scratch).
So far the video reviews that I have seen of Oreo on the G6 are pointedly unexciting and confirm my predictions. As far as I am concerned the only reason to update is for the security patches. I am hesitant to update given that going backwards is difficult on a unrooted device.
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It was entirely predictable and expected that there would be no improvement in battery life or performance with Oreo despite all the anticipation.
I have literally NEVER seen a major operating system upgrade actually speed up performance of identical apps on the same device. Sometimes there might be a non-significant decline, but never an improvement.
Each Android upgrade promises some new trick to improve battery life like wakelocks etc, but it's only theoretical and perhaps applies only to brand new hardware.
Otherwise the progressive process of bloating in updated apps and system software use more power and more resources which more than compensate for the supposed improvements in efficiency
I think the few reports that have mentioned improvement are just the random variation that people get, even with Nougat, or even day to day on the same device.
Sometimes I get 1% standby drain per hour and sometimes 3% with no change in use or settings. I have found no consistent way to control this, including trying all of the tips mentioned (except for wiping my phone and starting from scratch).
So far the video reviews that I have seen of Oreo on the G6 are pointedly unexciting and confirm my predictions. As far as I am concerned the only reason to update is for the security patches. I am hesitant to update given that going backwards is difficult on a unrooted device.
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maybe some little improvements are made, sure, nothing big to say its a major update, NO!
is almost only a Android version bump and a security patch. PERIOD...
The features this new version introduced is low and people who update the phone dont will see a big change, i already see some videos of update in youtube and didnt see too much difference.
Of course is a good thing LG doing it but isnt night and day,is more like some hours of difference.
Lets see with time to time the Doze mode and power savings features step in and see some change in battery life, i trust LG make something to improve it, again nothing special but for me that already make a difference.
jshames said:
I have literally NEVER seen a major operating system upgrade actually speed up performance of identical apps on the same device. Sometimes there might be a non-significant decline, but never an improvement.
Sometimes I get 1% standby drain per hour and sometimes 3% with no change in use or settings. I have found no consistent way to control this, including trying all of the tips mentioned (except for wiping my phone and starting from scratch).
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From my experience, I never saw an android update improve battery life too. But that was a long time ago, with "cheap" phones (expect nexus 4, so disappointed). But recently, a friend bought a Nokia 8, and after the Oreo update, the battery has become so amazing, I was really really suprised and so jealous! So now I still have a little hope ...
However concerning standby drain, for me it's pretty ok. In airplane mode lost 0 or 1% for all night, and with data or wifi, it stays "normal".
You guys have something else going on.like the first post said it depends on day to day and other factors like many apps running in back ground.My phone and battery have 0 issues.on full charge it stays at 100 for about 10min on heavy internet use and then drops about 2percent per hour.I only charge my phone every 3 days.I also found phone much faster after oreo and less studder.I suppose because part of the update is to have less apps running in background.I wouldnt really listen to some users because the change log for oreo is huge.Soooooo many changes under the hood.people should read the change log before giving false facts(and they are false)Always gonna have some dude complaing about something
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You guys have something else going on.like the first post said it depends on day to day and other factors like many apps running in back ground.My phone and battery have 0 issues.on full charge it stays at 100 for about 10min on heavy internet use and then drops about 2percent per hour.I only charge my phone every 3 days.I also found phone much faster after oreo and less studder.I suppose because part of the update is to have less apps running in background.I wouldnt really listen to some users because the change log for oreo is huge.Soooooo many changes under the hood.people should read the change log before giving false facts(and they are false)Always gonna have some dude complaing about something
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Did you make some improvements like disabling logs and reducing resolution ? Any reset after oreo ?
I disabled event logs yes.kept screen on large size and no resolution change.Yes I did a factory reset immediately after.I think alot of people are having issues with battery because they dont calibrate it first when new out of the box.As a rule of thumb no matter what electronics i buy i always charge to 100 percent and literally let it drain to 0 percent then full chage again.Do this step twice in a row and i can pretty much guarantee you wont have issues with battery that are out of the ordinary.LOVE MY G6
Tag49 said:
Hello,
I dont really found centralized information about Oreo and feedbacks regarding battery life.
So please, people from Korea and North America, can you provide some feedback about Oreo update, especially about the battery life ?
I heard some negative opinion from this video :
Before he was at 5-6h SoT, after update 3-4h
Thanks !
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I just got the upgrade on my g6+ batterie Went bad. .....I started to analyse battery usage and i found that chrome browser was one of the cause ..So i change it for Microsoft edge browser. ..now my battery is draining less. ....So i hope that did the trick. .......and i also cancel all other apps that i did not use
Almost 6h of SoT with heavy gaming. Doesn't sound bad to me. ?View attachment 4508939View attachment 4508940
It's strange that there is so much different experiences between people. This is not reassuring!
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It's strange that there is so much different experiences between people. This is not reassuring!
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There are people that mainly use the phone under a wifi connection, and others that use it under a mobile network, this is just an example to give you an idea of why there is much difference between users
Y kllua but people are complaining regardless of wifi or mobile network. My package includes 6gb of network per month every month i spend 4gb etc...
And lots of people i see have bluetooth, nfc ( if they even thats in or what it even is. ) and then comes some1 like you and says ooo wifi on. What im gonna use at home ? Data ? To consump battery and empty my month data, and what im gonna use on streets, work, free time outside house etc. Mobile fking data. You think wifi is all around us
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Y kllua but people are complaining regardless of wifi or mobile network. My package includes 6gb of network per month every month i spend 4gb etc...
And lots of people i see have bluetooth, nfc ( if they even thats in or what it even is. ) and then comes some1 like you and says ooo wifi on. What im gonna use at home ? Data ? To consump battery and empty my month data, and what im gonna use on streets, work, free time outside house etc. Mobile fking data. You think wifi is all around us
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Well, my G6's battery sucks because at work the phone switches every couple of minutes to all the networks, and so I'm not able to reach home after 9-10 hours with 1-2 of SOT without charging a 20-30% during lunch, besides in weekends where I'm almost everyday under a wifi connection I easily reach 4-5 hours of SOT with gaming in a full day usage.
Also yes, there are many other parameters, like BT, NFC, GPS, Apps ecc...
So finally got Oreo thanks to LG Brigde.
The battery stock app seems really... broken ? Please see screenshots.
The message says : "2 days ago , 1h27min left the conversation."
PS : I made a factory reset after the oreo update.
Mine has actually improved! I'm getting like 30 minutes more (the improvement came after I drained the battery almost completely and charged it back like 3 times and after a factory reset). Not much but I can't complain. I'm actually happy for the improvements in fast charge speed, it's even faster now.
Third day with Oreo now.
Battery life is great, at least as good as before. I have 3.5h of screen on time right now and I'm at 43% battery at the end of a full work day with traveling etc.
And that's with Nova Launcher, Gesture Control [root], Always on Display and Pixel live wallpaper enabled.
Very happy with the G6 at the moment. Of course battery life always depends on your personal use and different phones provide better battery life for different people... G6 seems to work well for me and definitely better than the Huawei P9 I had before.
For people with battery life issues I suggest this: Battery life guide (I keep resolution at max because it messes with AOD and camera)
and also if you don't use google voice assistant try disabling the google app and use the chrome search widget instead. And keep location services on battery saving mode if you don't need GPS all the time.
Bethovenn said:
I just got the upgrade on my g6+ batterie Went bad. .....I started to analyse battery usage and i found that chrome browser was one of the cause ..So i change it for Microsoft edge browser. ..now my battery is draining less. ....So i hope that did the trick. .......and i also cancel all other apps that i did not use
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can i ask where you got the browser? ive been trying to find it in play store with no success, thanks