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Best radio signal to use? (battery life)

I can use *#*#4636#*#* and I read somewhere that it can help with battery life if I set a certain antenna from there? I forgot where I read it though, if someone can please let me know that would be great. There are NO rogue apps running, I only have about 10 installed.
The phone is 4 days old, so it could be why but I've battery cycled it twice already (letting it run dead and recharging it for 10 hours). All my widgets are off except weather and that is set to update every 3 hours and it is NOT using GPS. Wifi is off, so is bluetooth. Gps is off as well.
Is anyone using maximum power saver or just the regular nighttime setting for those reporting better battery life? I also uninstalled launcher pro, it seemed to glitch my phone a lot with the google toolbar and also seemed to have a slightly bigger toll on my battery. Also battery health is stating "Good". Is that the best or does it still need more conditioning?

You probably shouldn't change things in there. Look elsewhere to conserve battery.
You didn't note what your battery life is like either. But you should still let the battery charge and drain a few more times before trying to squeak out more battery life by modifying something like this....

bongd said:
You probably shouldn't change things in there. Look elsewhere to conserve battery.
You didn't note what your battery life is like either. But you should still let the battery charge and drain a few more times before trying to squeak out more battery life by modifying something like this....
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Well I'll give you an example. The phone was unplugged almost 6 hours yesterday, and I used it around 3 hours and 46 minutes max. It got down to 5 percent and shut off. I had my music i was listening to for 25 minutes. I had my IM program on for about an hour, had a 12 minute phone call. Was texting back and forth mainly, and I checked a few things on the browser and exited out. MY IM program uses GPS to get my location but only when I request to do so, then shut the gps off. I force closed it when I was done to be sure it wasn't gonna drain any more of my battery. My notifications are off mainly except for my texts and such. And this was with JuiceDefender on the last half of the battery.

I don't like programs like Juice Defender to be honest. They usually go buggy and drain the battery more than it saves. People just get excited and leave positive reviews.
I'd honestly reset to factory settings in case there was a one-off glitch. Set things up again and use it like you would normally to gauges things. My battery lasted over 40 hours from the first charge.
With results that bad, I wouldn't troubleshoot beyond resetting it. Take it back if that's the case. That's not right. And it's not worth your time.

bongd said:
I don't like programs like Juice Defender to be honest. They usually go buggy and drain the battery more than it saves. People just get excited and leave positive reviews.
I'd honestly reset to factory settings in case there was a one-off glitch. Set things up again and use it like you would normally to gauges things. My battery lasted over 40 hours from the first charge.
With results that bad, I wouldn't troubleshoot beyond resetting it. Take it back if that's the case. That's not right. And it's not worth your time.
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Thanks. I just got the phone not sure why I would need to factory reset it. Is there a way I can back my data up and such like texts and pics/apps?
Also 40 hours!? Jeeze do you like never use your phone at all? haha. That is insane my iPhone 4 never even got that good of battery life.

tripleh3lix said:
I can use *#*#4636#*#* and I read somewhere that it can help with battery life if I set a certain antenna from there? I forgot where I read it though, if someone can please let me know that would be great.
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That code just pushes your phone to use EDGE only and not 3G. It can increase battery life if your phone is constantly trying to hold on to a spotty 3G signal, which can be common .

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That code just pushes your phone to use EDGE only and not 3G. It can increase battery life if your phone is constantly trying to hold on to a spotty 3G signal, which can be common .
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Ah, no I have about 4 bars of HSPA+ in my house, I think i'm good on that, thank you!

Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.

Kaoe said:
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
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Yep it's updated I'm wondering if it was the chat program yesterday I was using.. It has notifications on so it was probably connecting 24/7. I'm gonna keep it off today and use regular apps like facebook. Do you guys keep your notifications for those with good battery life?

Kaoe said:
Did you do the OTA update? seems to have helped a few people with battery life including myself.
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(off topic) is that your atrix? and how did you get your lockscreen to look like that?

Banditlol said:
(off topic) is that your atrix? and how did you get your lockscreen to look like that?
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It's an application called WidgetLocker. It's quite an amazing application if I do say so myself.

tripleh3lix said:
Yep it's updated I'm wondering if it was the chat program yesterday I was using.. It has notifications on so it was probably connecting 24/7. I'm gonna keep it off today and use regular apps like facebook. Do you guys keep your notifications for those with good battery life?
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Chat programs are generally notorious battery hogs. Stick with Google Talk.

stewartsoda said:
Chat programs are generally notorious battery hogs. Stick with Google Talk.
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I've been using PingChat for about a month now and there is no significant battery drain. Very nice and reliable, more than google talk where messages sent would occasionally never be received.

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I've been using PingChat for about a month now and there is no significant battery drain. Very nice and reliable, more than google talk where messages sent would occasionally never be received.
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Generally. I allow that there are some that are not battery hogs. I do know the chat program on my Touch Pro (I forget what it was) would suck my battery dry in an hour or two if left running in the background.

what app could I use to show battery drain?

So my note 4 is just 15 days old now and it doesn't seem to hold a charge very long through normal use the battery is down to about 70 within an hour that's with no sound or GPS or wifi or bt. I'm extremely upset if they are gonna just give me a crap response Boeing one day beyond the normal return oeriod.. I saw a log someone posted and people were able to if it looked like normal battery drain p.s. I don't have root.
Thanks In advance!

MDavisiw said:
So my note 4 is just 15 days old now and it doesn't seem to hold a charge very long through normal use the battery is down to about 70 within an hour that's with no sound or GPS or wifi or bt. I'm extremely upset if they are gonna just give me a crap response Boeing one day beyond the normal return oeriod.. I saw a log someone posted and people were able to if it looked like normal battery drain p.s. I don't have root.
Thanks In advance!
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In this forum they recommended using Trepn to see what apps are using the CPU. It helped me. Check it out, hopefully it can offer some insight. I'm not rooted either, so we're very limited.

you can often tell a lot just from looking at the "power saving" screen in settings.
for me it's usually either screen or atlas(web browser) at the top, with everything else very low.
edit: I forgot to mention, if you have spotty reception it can also account for your battery drain.
a phone often lasts no more than 8 hours in standby while constantly looking for a network, this counts for smartphones and dumbphones alike.

PSA for T-Mobile Priv users

Hey guys! I hope you're all enjoying your new Priv! I got mine on release day, so I've been tinkering with it since I got it. A few things bothered me about the device: the battery would take forever to charge, even using a Qualcomm certified quick charger, and the battery would drain abnormally fast. Even with no apps running, Antutu would only score 40,000 to 50,000 and 800/2500 in Geekbench.
I found out that the T-Mobile MyAccount app was always running in the background and took up 6% of my phone's battery, just above android OS. After I disabled that app, I found that a full charge would only take about an hour, versus the 2 hours it took before. Battery life also skyrocketed from about 8 hours to 14+. Antutu scores went up to 60,000 to 67,000 (I tested several times) and Geekbench now consistently scores 1200/3500 for me. The phone also doesn't get NEARLY as hot as it used to.
One other thing I did was to change all my accounts in the hub to sync every 15 minutes instead of push, which also seemed to help with the battery life. Hope this info helps you turn your Priv into the best phone it can be!

Zer0.exe said:
Hey guys! I hope you're all enjoying your new Priv! I got mine on release day, so I've been tinkering with it since I got it. A few things bothered me about the device: the battery would take forever to charge, even using a Qualcomm certified quick charger, and the battery would drain abnormally fast. Even with no apps running, Antutu would only score 40,000 to 50,000 and 800/2500 in Geekbench.
I found out that the T-Mobile MyAccount app was always running in the background and took up 6% of my phone's battery, just above android OS. After I disabled that app, I found that a full charge would only take about an hour, versus the 2 hours it took before. Battery life also skyrocketed from about 8 hours to 14+. Antutu scores went up to 60,000 to 67,000 (I tested several times) and Geekbench now consistently scores 1200/3500 for me. The phone also doesn't get NEARLY as hot as it used to.
One other thing I did was to change all my accounts in the hub to sync every 15 minutes instead of push, which also seemed to help with the battery life. Hope this info helps you turn your Priv into the best phone it can be!
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I heard that some people on Blackberry forums were reporting that T-Mobile My Account app could/is causing battery drainage. I didn't like my account app showing me notifications and went to options in that app and remove all the check marks from the there. I had no issues with battery, but as a precaution I always disable apps that I never use.

Thanks for the heads-up. Finally picked one up today and felt that it did indeed heat up quicker than it should and definitely wasn't charging as fast as I thought it should be. Hopefully this helps!

My Priv's battery has been an utter nightmare - gonna give this a shot. Have you noticed any adverse effects from disabling the app? My main concern is if BingeOn will still work. I'm okay with not being able to disable it (not a big video guy) but free music streaming is super important to me - streaming music at work constantly during an 8hr shift, in the car during my commute... yeah, I need that.
And, before anyone says anything, it's not the music streaming doing it. In fact, the battery seems almost better when I'm doing that since I've just got the phone sitting in my pocket. Wakelocks are an absolute nuisance though - "awake" time is well over 10x SoT.

Trevorq243 said:
My Priv's battery has been an utter nightmare - gonna give this a shot. Have you noticed any adverse effects from disabling the app? My main concern is if BingeOn will still work. I'm okay with not being able to disable it (not a big video guy) but free music streaming is super important to me - streaming music at work constantly during an 8hr shift, in the car during my commute... yeah, I need that.
And, before anyone says anything, it's not the music streaming doing it. In fact, the battery seems almost better when I'm doing that since I've just got the phone sitting in my pocket. Wakelocks are an absolute nuisance though - "awake" time is well over 10x SoT.
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BingeOn doesn't require any T-Mobile bloat to run. It's handled on the network side, not on the device itself. Also, unless they recently changed something, you don't need BingeOn enabled to get free music streaming. Music streaming is free regardless.

Thanks for that. So far the Priv is doing a fine job keeping itself alive now that app is gone. Nice to know I won't be blowing past my data allowance. I'm new to T-Mobile and so far, so good. Well, other than their app destroying my phone of course.

Trevorq243 said:
Thanks for that. So far the Priv is doing a fine job keeping itself alive now that app is gone. Nice to know I won't be blowing past my data allowance. I'm new to T-Mobile and so far, so good. Well, other than their app destroying my phone of course.
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You'll get all that bloat with any carrier
I do want to point out that the Priv does an awesome job of standby. It makes sense that a 2K screen could drain the battery quickly, but I've gone 9 hours with only 40% drain when I barely use it, so it stays alive well when you aren't actively using it. I was also streaming music the whole time, but since the screen itself was off it saved my battery.

Zer0.exe said:
You'll get all that bloat with any carrier
I do want to point out that the Priv does an awesome job of standby. It makes sense that a 2K screen could drain the battery quickly, but I've gone 9 hours with only 40% drain when I barely use it, so it stays alive well when you aren't actively using it. I was also streaming music the whole time, but since the screen itself was off it saved my battery.
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Yep, that's been my experience. On for ~16 hours with 3hrs SoT. Not bad, really. I wouldn't mind a little more longevity but hey, that's what power banks are for.

Here's my own battery experience. I only removed the t-mobile apps and using Facebook on chrome and not the app. I'm a moderate user 2.5 hrs of on screen time!

cronojay said:
Here's my own battery experience. I only removed the t-mobile apps and using Facebook on chrome and not the app. I'm a moderate user 2.5 hrs of on screen time!
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The screen is a killer on this device, but it shouldn't be quite that bad. Are all your BlackBerry apps up to date? Some people have to manually check for updates for some reason.
Also, I disabled every T-Mobile app except visual voicemail. No idea if that'll help or not but it's worth a shot.
Finally, how long have you had the device? Phones always seem screwy battery-life wise during the first few days, regardless of system health.

I disabled all bloatware, this phone dies WAYYYYY to fast compare to my prior note 5.
I really dont, but i'll need to trade back in this phone if I don't get this solved. A man needs a phone with a battery!

Trevorq243 said:
The screen is a killer on this device, but it shouldn't be quite that bad. Are all your BlackBerry apps up to date? Some people have to manually check for updates for some reason.
Also, I disabled every T-Mobile app except visual voicemail. No idea if that'll help or not but it's worth a shot.
Finally, how long have you had the device? Phones always seem screwy battery-life wise during the first few days, regardless of system health.
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How about this one for a little bit over 2 weeks and so far it's been phenomenal for me 1 degrees in love with a good battery life is I disabled Facebook and I just use the web to look at Facebook so that save my battery by at least 20%.

techprint said:
I disabled all bloatware, this phone dies WAYYYYY to fast compare to my prior note 5.
I really dont, but i'll need to trade back in this phone if I don't get this solved. A man needs a phone with a battery!
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Other than battery life, how are you liking the switch? I like but don't love my note 5. I hadn't had a note since the original version, but I'm finding again that I just don't use the spen. I'm thinking about jumping back into a blackberry with keyboard.
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Other than battery life, how are you liking the switch? I like but don't love my note 5. I hadn't had a note since the original version, but I'm finding again that I just don't use the spen. I'm thinking about jumping back into a blackberry with keyboard.
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I'll take back what I previously wrote, as of yesterday I managed to get 24 hours on phone battery. at standby this phone doesn't use any sort of battery, I killed 20 percent in 40 mins on youtube though..
Going to give it a solid week, if not i'll return it and hopefully pick up the new s7 if release by then. I was on the same boat as you, got tired of the note and just wanted a switch. I'll keep checking back leaving my reviews here

techprint said:
I'll take back what I previously wrote, as of yesterday I managed to get 24 hours on phone battery. at standby this phone doesn't use any sort of battery, I killed 20 percent in 40 mins on youtube though..
Going to give it a solid week, if not i'll return it and hopefully pick up the new s7 if release by then. I was on the same boat as you, got tired of the note and just wanted a switch. I'll keep checking back leaving my reviews here
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I'll second this - screen off, next to zero battery used. Screen on, battery tanks like crazy. I think I'm gonna stick with it though I'm tempted to give the V10 a shot - I need a tough phone and this most certainly is not.

Only get ~2 hours of on screen time - "Android System" battery drain

I am on the latest 7.0 beta, T-Mobile version, I am getting pretty frustrated. I only get ~2 hours of on screen time. Right now at 30% and Android System has used 1350 mAh and CPU total is close to 5 hours.
Attached some pictures from yesterday and basically the same exact thing - maybe one of the packages listed is killing the battery?
I know there are a lot of posts about this issue but nothing that I've found useful unfortunatlely.

Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
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dogredwing1 said:
Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
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Been thinking about doing that, but not sure why it got really bad all of a sudden. I could get 3 to 4 hours before.
I think I'll wait until the official release is out and then do a reset - hopefully it comes out soon.

Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
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randun said:
Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
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I am getting pretty fed up. Thought the new updates would make it better but no go for me.

If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.

Looks like a lot of you are very unlucky. My battery life is superb! At the end of the day I still have ~35% battery remaining. I recharge every night regardless of how much battery I have left, so it does me just fine

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If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
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I would strongly advise to stay away from any of those 'fancy' package disablers.
They do no good and often deteriate things. I have on average over 8hours SOT and never used disablers.
Most Samsung apps don't put any drain on the battery. It's things like Facebook etc that hog resources.

Yeah, if only i got Facebook apps installed. I have fully working locations, notifications and other stuff - most of services I disabled are feedbacks, silent loggers and stuff I dont need or use. Only corrupted app is Gmail - which I don't use.
I got sync switched on, lots of calls, auto brightness, voice assistant and usually get 5 hours SOT during my usage which isn't bad at all.

So not sure what did it, but I installed Greenify and also changed from 1080p to 1440p and I get about 3ish hours on screen time. Still terrible but will do for now.
My phone also feels faster after changing resolution back to 1440p. So weird.

Disable ubication and always on display.

hamer221 said:
Disable ubication and always on display.
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I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
ubication?

shahran said:
I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
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I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.

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I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
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I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
ww.techspot.com/amp/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

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I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
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Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...

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Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
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I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...

shahran said:
I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
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I don't really see a discussion in the fact that AOD uses a lot of battery if you keep it on all day, it's pretty much guaranteed that AOD is the main culprit. And your own experience with your phone and its settings is worth a lot more than the experiences from some tech website. Everyone's phone/settings is different.

Battery Test

Hi,
I'd like to know if there is a way to test my pixel 4 battery, is it just bad or is it faulty?
I've just dropped my beloved Pixel 2 and got an upgrade to the 4. Upon receiving the Pixel 4 the battery was almost dead, something I've found uncommon in recent years. Normally new phones last 24hrs+ but this phone needs 2 charges a day, the same as my 2.5yo Pixel 2. I also notice it gets quite a bit hotter than my pixel 2 used to.
Is there a test available so I can determine if the battery is faulty? The operator said I can return it for an exchange but don't want to go through the bother if the Pixel 4 battery life is just bad.
Thanks,
Bradley

bradleyh10 said:
Hi,
Normally new phones last 24hrs+ but this phone needs 2 charges a day, the same as my 2.Is there a test available so I can determine if the battery is faulty? The operator said I can return it for an exchange but don't want to go through the bother if the Pixel 4 battery life is just bad.
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Bradley
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Hey Bradley, the issue here is that while you are giving an accurate question the circumstances described by yourself are a bit vague. The Pixel 4 is ok to make thru the entire day provided you are not into gaming. Plus if you are having a dark mode and the same goes for Chrome. The SOT was, is and ever will be an individual thingie no matter what everyone say. The battery has been quite a matter especially because of reviewers. I am not saying they are wrong. But if a phone can handle 15 % or 30 % by night it matters not, at least to me. I have never experienced any heating issue. Does that get warm? Yes, again when gaming. But I didn't notice it differs too much compared to the others. The Pixel 4 is no way a marathon runner but for a day it can go pretty well. You can download Better Battery Stats or any alikes to see what processes are the ones demanding the most. If there's no bad ass I would strongly consider getting a replacement.

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Hey Bradley, the issue here is that while you are giving an accurate question the circumstances described by yourself are a bit vague. The Pixel 4 is ok to make thru the entire day provided you are not into gaming. Plus if you are having a dark mode and the same goes for Chrome. The SOT was, is and ever will be an individual thingie no matter what everyone say. The battery has been quite a matter especially because of reviewers. I am not saying they are wrong. But if a phone can handle 15 % or 30 % by night it matters not, at least to me. I have never experienced any heating issue. Does that get warm? Yes, again when gaming. But I didn't notice it differs too much compared to the others. The Pixel 4 is no way a marathon runner but for a day it can go pretty well. You can download Better Battery Stats or any alikes to see what processes are the ones demanding the most. If there's no bad ass I would strongly consider getting a replacement.
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Thank you for replying. I will return the phone for an exchange.

I use custom kernel, forcedoze, etc. to last more than 24 hours when idle. Naturally, it consumes faster when I keep operating it.

Penguin414 said:
I use custom kernel, forcedoze, etc. to last more than 24 hours when idle. Naturally, it consumes faster when I keep operating it.
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What app is that?

abalam said:
What app is that?
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I used to use an app called ForceDoze, but recently I've been using FDE.AI.
The kernel uses CleanSlate.
ForceDoze
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze/
FDE.AI
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feravolt.fdeai
CleanSlate
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/development/kernel-cleanslate-v1-0-0-t4027435