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JI6 update: a *serious* let-down, in my opinion

So, this post is 1/2 "rant" and 1/2 "any ideas", but the JI6 Update has been (in my opinion) a very serious letdown.
First of all, I can't be alone in thinking that the late-September update from Samsung would be a full-blown upgrade to Froyo. Obviously it's not. I guess we'll wait awhile before that's released
Secondly, I'm one of those sorry saps that had the update soft-brick my phone. It took me a few days to get around to the ODIN fix (bumping me back to "stock"), but it was still a royal pain.
Thirdly, I've already seen some issues that I didn't have before. For instance, the phone "froze" on me while sitting at home: no screen response. I had to pull the battery and power up again. Nice!
Finally, the battery life is utterly horrible for me -- and I'm not sure why. Currently at 26% battery life (now 8h 4m since unplugged). 34% of the usage is "display", which has been on for 28m total. 22% is cell standby. 15% is phone idle. 10% is voice calls (2m 10s of that). 8% is the Android System. So on and so forth. Basically, I've *hardly* used my phone today, yet the battery isn't going to last thru to the afternoon. I have 6 active applications, with none of them hitting the CPU at all currently. Best of all? The battery icon looks like I'm about 1/2 full, so evidently Samsung couldn't be bothered to make that icon accurate. I know about the battery icon mods out there (I've used 'em), but I figured Samsung would take care of that.
Sorry for the venting, folks. Is anyone else seeing similar stuff? Any ideas on the lame battery life??
Thanks,
Yip

For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !

Better than Windows NT = 1.6

Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.

Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.

The_wolf88 said:
For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
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Ha! You may just be right on that. Eclair seems like a fairly lame version of Android, if you ask me. Not horrible, but not great.
anthonys2r said:
Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
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"Signs of warning" means nothing, my friend. There are folks who didn't even *root* that got soft-bricked with this update. It was (somehow) poorly handled.
As for your widgets comment, well... you would've lost the bet. I use a single screen, no widgets, no weather stuff, bluetooth off, wifi on (but currently turned off), and nothing extraneous. I run Android about as light & frothy as you can get! I prefer speed over just about everything.
Any other thoughts, though? Perhaps I should re-load Autostarts to see if there's anything strange launching at boot time...

kangxi said:
Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
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Interesting. Any ideas what would be pinging the cell standby so much? I'm in a high-bandwidth area (full bars), so it's not like the phone is struggling to get signal. I use Gmail and Exchange, but my Exchange sync is set to "hourly", rather than push.
Doesn't seem like I'd need to disable my 3G connectivity. I certainly have never had to before.

You should probably reflash the update. JI6 was great on my phone, no hiccups, no lag, perfect GPS.
Also, you should recalibrate your battery after the update and give it a few days to settle down. I always get horrible battery life after flashing a rom, but after a few cycles I'm back up to 24h+.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Honestly, I wouldn't know unless I knew your full setup. What I will say is that I do have a lot of widgets and apps running that pull from the internet but yet my cell standby isn't as high as yours. I haven't reduced any of my sync intervals either. The 3G radio can really drain battery fast, faster than even the screen so that is a problem.
Also, in JI6, they increased the strength of the radio so it drains even more battery. I am running the JI6 modem however.
You should use something like WatchDog to see what is constantly running and using CPU. That could give you an indicator of problem apps.

Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.

yipcanjo said:
Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Oh wow, yea definitely you need to disable all of those. That's the first thing I do. I actually uninstall Visual Voicemail, Telenav, Amazon MP3 etc. ALL of those things constantly run for some reason even without you opening them once.

You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.

Yellow C6 said:
You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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Amen to that. Except that the GPS is still unreliable.
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I'm having terrible battery life as well.

i'm 24 hours unplugged, sitting at 27%
all stock JI6

Again, if you didn't do so after the update, wipe battery stats and then do a few full drain/charge cycles. My battery life always sucks after flashing a new ROM, but it always goes back to normal given time.
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after the update for me, my gps is much better, but i actually have more lag then i had stock before....
so I need to either flash a kernel, lag fix, or a rom with at least one of those.... its kind of frustrating to have lag just from opening or closing a simple app, messages, or call... I honestly cant believe a phone with these hardware specs can have lag just from somthing as simple going into the dialer and exiting out...

Battery life seems to have decreased a little but still getting a good 20+ hours. GPS is a little better with use wireless networks. Lag is an issue now though. Didn't have much before a the update. Hopefully its solved in another update or froyo.
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So I applied the update on Tuesday through Mini Kies. First experience with this update, it's been great. My phone seems to faster, really I hardly experience any kind of lag or slowdown (and this is in comparison with my stock vibrant running OCLF). Battery life even seems to be better, but that is probably to do with conditioning. So everything has been good except for the fact that my phone has froze on me TWICE today. I'm thinking it's something to do with the apps though. I was in Layar and it was working for a bit when suddenly, it froze, I didn't have to pull the battery I just held the power button down for a good 5-10 seconds and it restarted. The other time was in a game, which kind of concerns me. I suppose I can reinstall both and see how that goes. I'm thinking it has more to do with the apps possibly being corrupted. The first thing I did was install the 2.2 market on my phone and I ran the update all function on like 15 apps that needed updating. Not a good idea imo, the market went crazy and forced closed a couple of times. I'm not entirely sure what is going but it seems like my phone is only freezing in certain apps. I hope it's not just some random freeze that can happen at anytime, that wouldn't be no good.

You guys complaining about battery life... i would Love to have your times. I got 3 hours and 8 minutes today on a fully charged battery.

The saga of the GS2 and the iPhone 4

I bought a SG2 some time ago and loved it except for the idle battery drain. For the life of me, I couldn't seem to get it to stop chewing battery when it wasn't being used. I even tested it by charging it to full and leaving it overnight. It lost about 20%.
Remembering that the iPhone 4 had excellent idle battery life, I decided to give it another go just for the hell of it. I hate iOS as a daily driver, but I figured at least I wouldn't have to worry about battery life.
These are my observations:
1) Idle time on iPhone 4 is indeed better. When it's not being used, it uses no battery. However, when being used heavily, the SG2 actually seems to get BETTER battery life than iPhone 4 when it is being used heavily. Not sure why.
2) I severely miss being able to send/upload high quality videos and pictures. I hate the restrictions that Apple places on file size. I don't always have wifi readily available and at least with Android, you can upload large videos to Youtube over the cell connection.
3) I miss the integration in the photo album with social services. It's annoying having to launch an app every time I want to upload a picture/video.
4) The camera on the SG2 is definitely better. You get more fine detail on objects that are further away, no doubt due to the higher megapixel count.
5) I think most apps on iOS look better and are more functional, but the problem is, you have to launch an app to do anything in iOS.
I really wish Samsung (and maybe Google in general) could solve the idle battery drain. Losing 20% over 8 hours without even using the phone seems rather high when you factor in that you'll be losing that battery life whether you use the phone or not. Theoretically, this should mean that the iPhone would get better battery life with the same use, but I'm not finding that to be the case so far. I will probably be going back to my SG2 very soon.
Sorry for the long-winded post. Just wanted to collect my thoughts and present my personal findings.

U r right about battery consumption .
But i m sure Android is going to be so much improved and vast in features that we cant compare to any os in the world in future.
Biggest plus of Android is community like this and the freedom to change things inside it.

agree on most of the things u said there
but
when it comes to battery life i have no idea why its soo random with some people
i lose about 1% an hour on KE2
(stock was on the phone when i bought it no root )
but since i installed KF3
i lose about 2% an hour
rooted flashed from odin

I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.

check the new kernel ninephetamine. Have used the modified 1.4v (with deep sleep enabled).....promising results with undervolting.
Currently OC 1400, and undervolted.

Simple Answer
Iphone does not loose batter on idle cause it puts all apps to sleep state if not used for a while
Android phones in general are always using data for like your emails, facebook, etc if you have set the apps to connect say every hour or so
IF you leave WIFI on it takes up battery as well
I am quiet happy with my SGS2 ( 12 -15 hours ) heavy usage and I am used to daily charging. and its just the day time hours unlike people who may be posting their night time hours as well which add anything form 8-16 more

jonny68 said:
I must have responded to 10+ questions on this forum in the last 24 hours as regards battery drain, i get 25+ hours on my GS2, if you search on here you will find many tips that will substantially increase your battery life.
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I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.

i have tried every single battery optimisation and calibration tricks on my Android phones. My first Android phone was a htc hero, second SE X10 and Now Galaxy S2.
All the optimisation and stuff works if you sacrifice something on your phone. i like my display to be sharp and easy to see. I want my email notification to be prompt and so many other things.
I used to be Windows mobile user my last handset was Toshiba TG01. i never ever had any battery issue.
It is to do with Android system, it needs to improve. it has all the pace now and so many chances.
if this roumor is true then IOS will shrink sooner than 2015:
http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/iPhone+5+delayed+until+2012?/5990

Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.

Well if riding the Panda can get me through the jungle instead of half of it, why not?
Also, the Panda can get me more food via the App Store.
Granted though the Lamborghini has alot more fancy features and doesnt have mindless sheep following it
Anyway, coming from an SGS1, then an iPhone4, I heartily agree with the OP. Android is awesome but it's still rough around the edges. Sometimes the ease and boring simplicity of IOS is something that I miss, along with the Apps and definitely the games which Android is sorely lacking.
But then again I'd be reminded of steve and his itunes bloatware. ugh

Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.

wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.

codeworkx said:
Why my Lamborghini needs more fuel than my Fiat Panda? I can't understand. Crappy Lamborghini, back on Panda.
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LOL I like ur metaphor.. but at least give something better than Panda hahaha

Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.

greyhulk said:
I'm not interested in disabling everything that makes Android what it is. If I have to modify it to the point that it's an iPhone, I might as well use an iPhone. I'm well aware of battery saving tips for Android. They almost always involve shutting down all automated services and anything that retrieves data. This is not a solution. I have some e-mail accounts on periodic pull and the most important ones on push. On the iPhone, I have all e-mail accounts on Push.
I also don't particularly want to use a custom ROM. I prefer to stay stock.
I'm not getting horrible battery life on my SG2. In fact, I get around 15 hours with the same kind of use as that on the iPhone 4. I would just like to be able to set the phone down for several hours and not lose a quarter of the battery.
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But most of the stuff is pretty useless anyway all this Samsung bloatware is guaranteed to drain your battery, i don't see it as sacrifcying anything, ive got email on push and i still get over 25+ hours battery,i used an iPhone 4 for a few weeks and id be lucky to get 16 hours with medium to heavy usage.
My data is always enabled too, you can save a lot of battery if you use apps like Juice defender plus and system panel will also tell you which apps,etc are using up more than others.
At the end of the day smartphones are always going to use up much more battery than normal phones and this isn't going to change anytime soon until such time a revoultionary new battery is designed that lasts for days on end.
Until then people have to deal with it,follow the tips and you'll get good battery life, if you want absolutely everything "on at the same time" your simply not going to get it, not on the iPhone 4 or any phone.

blunted09 said:
wifi sharing is a bit of a bug that drains battery like crazy. If your not rooted thats definitely the screen off battery drain for sure. If there was a reason to root, just root to freeze that one rogue app.
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indeed this is very true.

LouisJB said:
Yes, but when Lamborghini is parked it should use the same as the Panda! (I.e. zero.)
Google really should minimise the stuff going on when the phone is idle. Google also needs to do something about all these rouge apps that always start up services that always run in the background. They should provide some way of limiting/stopping the CPU usage of apps running in the background.
Even the official XDA forum app still servers up adverts in the background eating up your battery (and bandwidth) if you press home instead of backup to exit.
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It's not parked.
Your Engine is still running on idling mixture.
That's a difference. ;-)

LouisJB said:
Nope, the wifi sharing bug has now been fixed by Samsung in the stock KF3 release available via Kies.
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Has not been properly addressed. Thats why its not even included in 90% of the custom roms.

Bad battery life on all phones? A curse?

Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...

I'd be looking at the apps you haveinstalled... Sounds like there's something running in background eating away at your battery life...
Or it's an energy vampire living in your home....

I am getting radically different battery performance with this phone day to day. One day it'll get a solids like 6.5 hours SoT and others I'll get like 4. Various issues it seems. Shouldnt be that hard to get consistent battery life.

Agree with above. Only common denominator here is you / your apps. But, stock+magisk with franco kernel and the app naptime is enough for me to get 5-7h sot out a full battery, but usually it's half full when I go to bed

You've mentioned that you tried many things to resolve this but I'll go ahead and tell you the things I use to make my battery last a little longer (hopefully there is something useful for you)
- Greenify with Magisk Module
- ForceDoze
- Location almost always on battery saving mode
- Force Doze for Google Play Services Magisk Module
- if WiFi is on, data will be off, and if data is on, then WiFi is off
- Bluetooth is always off if nothing is connected to it
- brightness is kept relatively low/halfway at most, the majority of the time
Running unofficial RR with Lightning Kernel v11 (1000hz version)
All this combined gives me roughly 9-9.5 SOT (about 140 apps installed)
If I forgot to mention anything, I'll edit it in here!

I've been very careful with my apps and I can't see what could be causing, I've tried third party Facebook apps instead of the official one for example and there's nothing strange installed.

Im_Mattgame said:
Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...
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Try with basic steps. Factory reset then:
1) Have totally stock OP5 - no "battery saving tricks", no apps. Run a bit. What is SOT? If less then average of 5-6 hours - either you have a "curse"/NSA tracking you or defective hardware.
2) Install your "battery saving trick" one by one testing after now and then. Are there any improvements in SOT? If yes, then write your wiki page, share your findings . If not, write your wiki page and tell us what application is a culprit.
3) Rinse and repeat until no more application left to install or you got bored.

I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?

yubimusubi said:
I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?
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There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.

Jackson1231 said:
There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.
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Oops, I meant to follow up on this. Android System and Google Play were causing a lot of wakelocks. I cleared cache in the Google Play and Google Services apps sad now I'm back to my typical 6-7 hours SoT.

Battery Life on 9.0.6

On 9.0.5 was getting around 8-9hrs SOT now it's down to around 6. Have erased cache in recovery and restarted. I shouldn't have to do a hard reset after every update so I don't know what the issue is. I haven't installed anything else and have the same settings on as I did before the update. I'm unrooted add well.I just curious if anyone else is experiencing a decrease in battery life quality after the 9.0.6 OTA?

sonic1675 said:
On 9.0.5 was getting around 8-9hrs SOT now it's down to around 6. Have erased cache in recovery and restarted. I shouldn't have to do a hard reset after every update so I don't know what the issue is. I haven't installed anything else and have the same settings on as I did before the update. I'm unrooted add well.I just curious if anyone else is experiencing a decrease in battery life quality after the 9.0.6 OTA?
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I'm experiencing the same thing

Same, checked what is draining the battery but everything seems fine.

Same for me: after update SOT 6.5-7h, before around 9h. No root

Mine was worse on 9.0.6 unlocked bl with magisk.
After that I used the MSM tool just to use it so I can learn.
After the MSM tool full restore battery was life was better.
I was also stock kernel and after the restore I put ElementalX.

STRUZZIN said:
Mine was worse on 9.0.6 unlocked bl with magisk.
After that I used the MSM tool just to use it so I can learn.
After the MSM tool full restore battery was life was better.
I was also stock kernel and after the restore I put ElementalX.
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That's one of my points though, we shouldn't have to do a full restore every single time when taking an update

Have anyone found solution to this problem? This thread is holding me back from purchase.

9.0.6, drains fast...just wait for update

vulkhead said:
Have anyone found solution to this problem? This thread is holding me back from purchase.
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Honestly, the battery life is still ridiculous, still a no brainier to get this phone, even with this update, but no doubt they'll fix it in the next one, it's just a pain, I'm really wondering if anyone's found a fix, and waiting for the next update is going to be anoying, but patience is a virtue lol

sonic1675 said:
Honestly, the battery life is still ridiculous, still a no brainier to get this phone, even with this update, but no doubt they'll fix it in the next one, it's just a pain, I'm really wondering if anyone's found a fix, and waiting for the next update is going to be anoying, but patience is a virtue lol
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Very true. I'm experiencing worse battery like but I'm still going 6+ hours sot and 30+ hours on a charge. It's like a Moto z play but flagship speed.
My idle drain is amazing still. Drops 2-3% in 8 hours if deep sleep. It's just seems to drain faster while screen is on.

Has this issue been fixed with 9.0.7?

There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.

hoevito said:
There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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I agree.
I have not experienced worse battery on 9.0.6 at all. What I have noticed is my usage has changed over time (honey moon period)
Perhaps your usages /locations have changed?
Switching from WiFi to celullars (especially outdoors when your removing about) make a big difference.

I agree the battery is great.
After being on 9.0.7 since release I feel its slightly better so far.

hoevito said:
There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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vhc said:
I agree.
I have not experienced worse battery on 9.0.6 at all. What I have noticed is my usage has changed over time (honey moon period)
Perhaps your usages /locations have changed?
Switching from WiFi to celullars (especially outdoors when your removing about) make a big difference.
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...

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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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Fair point I guess.
I've never gotten 8 hrs SOT, 6 hrs at most and it's always been like that since day 1.

sonic1675 said:
See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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And what if it's an app which got updated and started behaving strangely and sucking battery juice ? I would start with that then use BBS to look for detailed battery usage ...

S10+(SM-G975U1) battery life went bad

Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><

You might need to take it somewhere and have a tech look at it or contact Samsung on it or claim warranty with Samsung.

See if it does it in safe mode.
Probably a rogue apk(s)... a software issue.

okay i'm going to give a try on safe mode

it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.

Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung

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it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.
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I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
In Developer options look at running services.
Also in the same look at Standby apps; all buckets should show as active. If not then power management** is active, disable all power management; Android will manage it's self nicely.
Enable only the "Optimized" option for display/cpu and fast charging in Device Care.
Use the factory load version of Device Care if on Pie. Firewall block it though after which use it's system cache cleaner.
Download Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker from the Galaxy store.
Download Karma Firewall from Playstore.
Consider using this: https://www.packagedisabler.com/
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
**track down the roque apks one by one and deal with them without using power management options.

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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i completely agree with you
there no point replacing the battery like i did
Li-Ion/Li-Poly can't go bad in just 1 night unless it blow up or something
even my previous note 5 battery can take charge day in day out for over 3years without needing a new battery.

blackhawk said:
I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
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i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD

Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.

zackyo said:
i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.

blackhawk said:
Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.
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agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.
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i totally understand what you meant xD and yeah hopefully that won't be necessary.

zackyo said:
agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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I haven't been a saint with the 10+'a battery but the insults add up if you do it every day.
Likewise being conservative with the charging and temp parameters should too.
It will be interesting how long this battery lasts as I use the phone a lot.
Accubattery to spite it's faults is a good monitoring tool. It's charge reminder is handy and it's milliamp overlay has been useful.
It also logs charge/discharge milliamps and times which is probably the best battery indicator.

speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device

zackyo said:
speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device
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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...

blackhawk said:
Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...
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okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet

zackyo said:
okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet
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Disable Android updates. Only update after others have given feedback and you have more to gain than loss. Once you update you may well need to start this witch hunt all over.
Androids are fun to play with... go to it

noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?

zackyo said:
noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?
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Depends what you want. If not sure, play with this one for a while.
I'm still running on Pie on my 10+ so I don't bother looking much at updates.
I'm not pleased with Q though so it's a no brainer to stay with Pie. At this point I have near zero issues, it's fast, stable, it does all I need it to do and runs the apps I use well.

zackyo said:
Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><
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Dial *#0228# in telephone app , and a advanced-looking app will pop up, click on quick start, neglect any warning messages.