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Another week...

Goes by and no sign of JB for the 8013. Sadness. I really thought it would be out this week. Anybody have any whispering about the wifi 8013 updates ?

Here are some things that are odd compared to Samsung's normal s/w roll outs:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
2) The German ROM is 3G. Historically Wi-Fi devices have received intermediate updates before 3G devices. For the OG G-Tab ICS update one region got a Wi-Fi update (UK) and another region got a 3G update (Italy). They were both released on the same day and were for Samsung's unlocked devices sold direct. The week after that other regions began receiving both updates.
3) There are no carrier specific apps or branding on the German ROM. And the lock screen short cuts were disabled but still packaged in the ROM as people that changed their CSC got them back. Both items are unusual.
4) Samsung released another 4.0.4 update for Argentina after the German JB ROM was outed. That doesn't make a lot of sense with JB so seemingly close to done. I've been using the German ROM since the day it became available and it's rock solid so it wouldn't seem as if there's a lot left for Samsung to do on it.
So it could all mean something or all mean nothing. But I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.

I am not expecting JB until at least around Christmas (it could even be later)

I'm not even expecting a JB update.
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JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.

Sparksltd said:
JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.
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Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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JB is just another rom but it does bring host of updates which enhances the tablet by many folds I am also still on ICS and waiting for official JB release but day by day tilting towards rooting my tab and installing JB rom

BarryH_GEG said:
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I can only speculate on the oddity based on my personal experience, which I will relate by way of a story.
Back in the mid to late '90s I worked for U.S. Robotics. One day they called a meeting to introduce the features of the latest software being made available for the Courier modems, the only flashable modems we had at the time. The engineer that was talking, very frankly, explained that we were adding the stupidest feature ever to our modems and that it was going to cause a ton of support calls. He went on to explain that the reason they added the feature was that a saleman had promised it to big client and that the direct sale of 20,000 modems hinged on the feature being added. Considering we made well over $100 on a direct sale, that was over $2 million profit and about $12 million in total sales.
So it's entirely possible that Samsung was looking at a big order from someone in Germany that was contingent on JB being released on the Note 10.1. Money will make companies do a lot of strange things.

Just flash the 8000 JB and change the governor to onDemand. Then you have a flawless Jelly Bean Rom until the 8013/8010 firmware is released.

My husband has an Asus Transformer Infinity tablet and he got JB last weekend. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone and got JB in Sept. He has a GIII phone and has no JB. I would expect he will get his JB update for his phone before I get an update for my Note 10.1. But then again, we are on Verizon. Maybe neither of us will get the update. I really don't understand Samsung not giving US Note owners JB. I know about how awful Verizon is about updating the phones.

Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:

b1ackplague said:
Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.

Sparksltd said:
I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.
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You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.

Looking at samsungs firmware update history at sammobile, the updates for all the other devices / regions comes around a month after the first update. So itll be december for us sadly :s

midas69 said:
Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:
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:laugh: I was thinking exactly the same, sometimes on monday...
But somewhat tells me that the actual JB was not completely finished, not buggy but usability flaws:
Annotate pictures, ok you can draw on the back of a picture, fine but to view it you get in that (paint)-editor again
did that make sense ? or did I overview something? Would be nicer with an airview support.:fingers-crossed:
Also in S-note when pressing the button on the s-pen while hovering, nice that it changes the pre-selectable writing tools (pen,pencil,brush,eraser) and cycle only through them. Edit: (works now)
My language is set to German, but got some French/ English texts...
I did 3 screenshots but didn't find out how I've done it! I know about the sw-button and the s-pen+button+press, but I was just looking through menues. Strange...
But otherwise, I like it. SApp- and Play-store works, also I didn't lose any data on the InternalSD (did move Tita. & Nand. backup to the extSD and computer)

BarryH_GEG said:
You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.
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Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc? I stopped reading the WIP thread because i saw too many people flashing etc. Repeatedly. Ive had quite a bit of Samsungs so im familiar with odin - whats the quicksst route without losing data? Will Samsung apps work on the 8013 even though it wont find a sim card ?

sledgie said:
Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc?
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Yes. I haven't been keeping up with the WIP thread but I'd guess their trying to figure out how to disable the 3G features in the ROM so it doesn't do strange things. I have a N8000 so anything I've shared is from using the ROM on it; not a Wi-Fi Note. So if your fellow Wi-Fi brethren have flashed the 3G ROM and the only issue has been wireless-related flakiness you should be fine. I'd read up some more on their experiences and make sure it's something you're comfortable with. I like JB but I was perfectly content with 4.0.4 which was very solid.

BarryH_GEG said:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
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This hasn't been the case for some time - for example, Ice Cream Sandwich came to unlocked Galaxy S2 last, after all the carrier-branded ones got it.
The rationale is that Samsung needs to tailor (test and fix bugs) each carrier branded device to that particular carrier's network, but the unlocked one needs to be tailored to *all* carrier networks and so needs to benefit from the sum of all the bug fixing/testing from all the other carriers. I don't necessarily agree, it's just what was said at the time.
I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.
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It could mean that they discovered bugs that needed to be fixed. They may be treating this german release a little like a public beta.

Here's another possible reason we're not hearing anything. The SGS3 JB roll-out doesn't appear to be going very well. This is from the SGS3 forum. If Samsung's rolling back SGS3 updates that's not a good thing for us as I'm sure the SGS3 is a higher-priority product based on sales alone and may be diverting attention from other devices. Purely speculation of course.
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Official kitkat for galaxy s iii mini !!!!

With Android 4.4 KitKat, Google is aiming to bring a better Android experience to the masses through features such as reduced memory consumption on low-memory (512MB) and low-cost devices, and that has had a lot of people hoping manufacturers will bring the new version of Android to some of their mid-range devices that may not otherwise be eligible for another update. Well, according to an image we received in our inbox, Samsung is thinking of doing just that, and is considering the update for some of its mid-range and low-end devices.
In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S III Mini.Yo can see in below image :
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if you read the article or even the image it says its under investigation so its not decided!

Gabhain said:
if you read the article or even the image it says its under investigation so its not decided!
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hmm....I think you need to read the whole article,click on the source.

Really nice news - when it's true. I believe WHEN we get 4.4 it will come after Xmas, maybe january. They must sale their flagship S4. Anyway - the ACE 2 is also in the list, that's great, my wife has it and i really like to play around with this little thing. I mean the phone

SONiX-GERMANY said:
Really nice news - when it's true. I believe WHEN we get 4.4 it will come after Xmas, maybe january. They must sale their flagship S4. Anyway - the ACE 2 is also in the list, that's great, my wife has it and i really like to play around with this little thing. I mean the phone
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i dont think we will get the kitkat and even if by some miracle we do get it, who needs it while we have maclaw, he even fixed the camera

android.zealot.fervor said:
hmm....I think you need to read the whole article,click on the source.
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i have read the source friend, it specifically says "However, just because Samsung is considering the update doesn’t mean the updates will actually come" so when you say "In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S III Mini" its misleading as they havent decided. ST-Ericsson are no more so the chances of an update is slim to none unfortunately.

Samsung first have to release new kernel for our device before kitkat it means we must get 4.2 maybe its true about ram but what about processor
because of heavy bloatware i think samsung have to redesign a touchwiz for our device its s4 mini which will get 4.4 most likely but sometimes miracle can happen . I hope we get new kernel for maclaw

They know it's possible. I mean, look at the Android development forums. There are already a few stable KitKat ROMs. They don't have an excuse to not release it.
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If the KitKat bring the Samsung Secured System KNOX like the 4.3 I want not chocolates, I prefer the 4.1.2 . What brothel on Note 3 and on S4. :crying:

artungonul said:
i dont think we will get the kitkat and even if by some miracle we do get it, who needs it while we have maclaw, he even fixed the camera
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Indeed. And i think it is best if we support him more.
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Rumor: Android 4.4 KitKat update for Galaxy S4 Mini, S3 Mini, Ace 3 and other mid-rangers “under investigation” http://drippler.com/updates/share/r...y-s4-mini-s3-mini-ace-3-and-other-mid-rangers Via j.mp/drippler_app
Read that
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Rumor: Android 4.4 KitKat update for Galaxy S4 Mini, S3 Mini, Ace 3 and other mid-rangers “under investigation” http://drippler.com/updates/share/r...y-s4-mini-s3-mini-ace-3-and-other-mid-rangers Via j.mp/drippler_app
Read that
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Page 1 already has posts like that.

Even if we already have Maclaw's version, i'd like this to be official, a lot of people have s3 minis now and it's not fair that the s4 may get an update but the s3 mini dont

abnerangel96 said:
Even if we already have Maclaw's version, i'd like this to be official, a lot of people have s3 minis now and it's not fair that the s4 may get an update but the s3 mini dont
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True. But for Maclaw's works, i think it's "better than nothing at all". CMIIW

deepseeker said:
True. But for Maclaw's works, i think it's "better than nothing at all". CMIIW
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Have to agree, lets hope samsung decide to release an update and make average users happy, i think ill stay with CM by Maclaw, its great
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abnerangel96 said:
i think ill stay with CM by Maclaw, its great
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It is. I just flashed his CM 11 4.4 fully working version. No major complain until now.
Just a tiny issue that the settings option for gallery is not working. But i think it is not a problem thinking all Maclaw's hard work.
Salute
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don't you underestimate an official release... 99.9% of smartphones don't even know the word root but many care about updates and the s3 mini is one of the top 10 selling devices around the globe and also used to cost 400 euro. so they have to release it. otherwise the'll lose customers. ste-ericsson not giving drivers is an excuse, maclaw with some others is a single developer that has booted almost fully working kit kat for s3 mini, Of course samsung can release a stable kitkat... and in my s3 mini capacitive buttons don't work when i flash a custom rom so i really need the official kitkat...

I installed last night and everything looks good. Hats of to MacLaw.
Just 1 thing. I have i8190N and have lost NFC now. Would be nice to see a ROM for the N variant.
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Still Good if...
I've been following Maclaw's work for months now, using his work as a "final" ROM for my device. However, what some users state here is a very valid idea, which I support. Is cool and all that we have Maclaw, Oliver and all of'em (without the drama, please save that for TV Soap Operas), but many many people out there would like to have the "Real Deal", be it for the sake of convenience -we sure enjoy testing every new update of our ROMs- but other people want an experience that "just works"- or because they prefer to have an officially backed up software. And let's face it, Samsung is the manufacturer of this phone and no one but the manufacturer would know better how it works and how to upgrade it. You custom developers are awesome, no doubt, but the manufacturer will always be a little above in the matter of knowing the device and undestanding it.
So, I really doubt Samsung will, after all this time, update our S3 mini, but I also think it would be awesome if they did so and I would totally use their update if they manage to improve the weak points of the last official one.

The question remains... did anyone get a legitimate version of KitKat?
If so, what are the chances of the G730A Model getting it, and of said thing is done, will it make it easier for us to root the G730A?
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Moto G Android Lollipop confirmed for GPE

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So Android Lollipop is finally confirmed man!!!!!! Amazing!! Cant wait!!!!
Also confirmed n Motorola Forums!!! :good: :crying: :highfive:

Nice! I guess we can flash that on non-GPE?

eddydc1 said:
Nice! I guess we can flash that on non-GPE?
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Yes man you can! I did it last Saturday without any problem! here you have the link: with the tool to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706 , it takes only 3 min!
So happy that I did it! I cant wait to receive that "Update your system" notification.

titotito1983 said:
Yes man you can! I did it last Saturday without any problem! here you have the link: with the tool to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706 , it takes only 3 min!
So happy that I did it! I cant wait to receive that "Update your system" notification.
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Do you think that the GPE will get the update to android l a lot faster then the stock ones? Considering the stock roms are nearly pure android, do you think there will be a noticeable difference?
How many days do you think the GPE will save compared to the stock one?
How many days was it in the past? Or how many days is it *usually* for motorola devices or even other devices for that matter?

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Do you think that the GPE will get the update to android l a lot faster then the stock ones? Considering the stock roms are nearly pure android, do you think there will be a noticeable difference?
How many days do you think the GPE will save compared to the stock one?
How many days was it in the past? Or how many days is it *usually* for motorola devices or even other devices for that matter?
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I really don't know man. Pure logic says that GPE will get it faster because you will not depend on the carrier to release it, just Google. So once they push the button all the GPE devices will get it....
In another note, I feel that the GPE runs much MUCH fluid than the non-GPE.

titotito1983 said:
I really dont know man. Pure logic says that GPE will get it faster because you will not depend on the carrier to release it, just Google. So once they push the button all the GPE devices will get it....
In another note, I feel that the GPE runs much MUCH fluid than the non-GPE.
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Nope, the gpe is still developed by the manufacturer, but they must do it exactly by the book.

vlt96 said:
Nope, the gpe is still developed by the manufacturer, but they must do it exactly by the book.
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Yes I know, but I was refering to the carrier...so for example if you have Verizon, you have to wait until Verizon releases the update, not just Google and then Motorola. In the GPE, since it is unlocked you dont have to wait for any carrier to release it, so you are avoiding one step, hence I think is faster....

titotito1983 said:
Yes man you can! I did it last Saturday without any problem! here you have the link: with the tool to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706 , it takes only 3 min!
So happy that I did it! I cant wait to receive that "Update your system" notification.
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Hey man, i'm planning to flash GPE firmware but I want to know this: does GPE firmware have equalizer or Sound Effects app like the original moto firmware? please answer me ASAP!

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949

Sandivisi said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Great news, I had a really bad experience with my previous phone (Desire X) and updates. It got 4.1.2 3 months after release, but never saw another update after that from HTC. I think smartphones should be able to get updates from the OEM's for at least 2 years.
Most ironic fact was that I paid $300 for the Desire X, and $199 for the Moto G. Go figure...

Nope it hasn't...

Chipotleez said:
Great news, I had a really bad experience with my previous phone (Desire X) and updates. It got 4.1.2 3 months after release, but never saw another update after that from HTC. I think smartphones should be able to get updates from the OEMs for at least 2 years.
Most ironic fact was that I paid $300 for the Desire X, and $199 for the Moto G. Go figure...
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Yup, paid 200€ for the moto G (in Romania, Motorola has no power here), and almost 300€ for the galaxy s3 mini... Galaxy s3 mini got the 4.1.2 update!!! From 4.1.1... And moto G is on a freaking list by Google, considered equal for updates as the nexus 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 and the HTC one M8...
Not to mention my sister got the Moto E, the 150€ phone (here) with better support than the galaxy s5, which probably won't get lollipop this year, or even this winter... 600€ device, doesn't get software updates because Samsung is probably still stuck with their old TV update policy, which doesn't exist.

Whoop Whoop. such good news. Just got my Moto G GPE!

And soon Lollipop for GPE

[OFFICIAL] Android 6.0 Marshmallow Thread

ANDROID 6.0 MARSHMALLOW THREAD
I saw no threads about this topic, and decided to make one.
Android 6.0 is starting to roll out for the nexus devices, when do you think our galaxy s6 will get it?
Discuss everything related android 6.0 marshmallow to galaxy s6!
Update 1.0: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/09...on-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-these-devices/
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The next .year.
On the samsung s7
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End of the year.

DT84 said:
End of the year.
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2015 or 2016?

I believe that is going to come to our devices before the end of the year.
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Will be at ~ mid-late Dec or early January.

A leaked firmware/test firmware in november+ a semi-stable version in december ( my guess is russian or ploand), a good build next year - february.

we will get it when they release Android N (Nutella)

Norside said:
I saw no threads about this topic, and decided to make one.
Android 6.0 is starting to roll out for the nexus devices, when do you think our galaxy s6 will get it?
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I think it will be soon, the latest 511 already has some doze functionality backported, maybe next month? Anyway since this is one of the most important new features I don't care much, as long as it is stable and bug free

MrWolfman said:
we will get it when they release Android N (Nutella)
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Mmmm Nutella! Android Nutella!

I hope they wait a bit after reading all the issues the new permission Model in M still has. This is more a consumer device than a Nexus so they should take their time and wait until it's also ready for the "average" user. Hopefully they don't rush the update like they did last year with the S5 and Android L (with all the bugs it had).

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I hope they wait a bit after reading all the issues the new permission Model in M still has. This is more a consumer device than a Nexus so they should take their time and wait until it's also ready for the "average" user. Hopefully they don't rush the update like they did last year with the S5 and Android L (with all the bugs it had).
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What permission issues do you mean exactly?
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istperson said:
What permission issues do you mean exactly?
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This for example. It seems like there can go much wrong if an app is written against the newest api but the developer "forgot" to ask for a permission in the right situation. If even Google makes that mistake with their G+ app this will happen to many other devs too.
So far I hoped that Android M will automatically ask for a permission when it's needed - even when the developer didn't create a customized request. But it looks like it doesn't which looks like a big fail to me.
And this is another thing which sounds also like a big mess. App settings spread across the system ... this will be a nightmare for the average user. Hopefully Google will fix that soon or OEMs like Samsung will take their time to change it and don't implement it the same way Google did.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/10/09/samsung-is-testing-marshmallow-on-several-flagship-smartphones/

I feel Google should have stayed on Lollipop for this year as well instead of announcing a new version.
There are still a lot of bugs and polishing that could have been fixed and done in let's say in 5.2 but no, they had to take out a new version when Lollipop still isn't present on the majority of devices.

ankushkatari said:
I feel Google should have stayed on Lollipop for this year as well instead of announcing a new version.
There are still a lot of bugs and polishing that could have been fixed and done in let's say in 5.2 but no, they had to take out a new version when Lollipop still isn't present on the majority of devices.
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it doesn't matter how they call it, it's just a new release. Bugs will be squashed, features will be added.

ankushkatari said:
I feel Google should have stayed on Lollipop for this year as well instead of announcing a new version.
There are still a lot of bugs and polishing that could have been fixed and done in let's say in 5.2 but no, they had to take out a new version when Lollipop still isn't present on the majority of devices.
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This is Lollipop, just renamed to Marshmallow. It's mostly fixes, better battery usage and optimizations. The only really new features are hidden like Doze, superficial like Google Now Tap, and security fixes for Google Pay.
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MysteriousDiary said:
This for example. It seems like there can go much wrong if an app is written against the newest api but the developer "forgot" to ask for a permission in the right situation. If even Google makes that mistake with their G+ app this will happen to many other devs too.
So far I hoped that Android M will automatically ask for a permission when it's needed - even when the developer didn't create a customized request. But it looks like it doesn't which looks like a big fail to me.
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I think that article was a bit on the tabloid level, because while it's true Google flubbed the G+ permissions, Marshmallow asks for them. I checked, all permissions were off, and in G+ I wanted to take a pic and post it, and it automatically asked for both Camera permission and storage permission. I've granted both, and after both were set in the Apps/G+/Permissions.
As for the other problem, I don't get it, how it is a problem, but it really can be for some.

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samsung usually releases the updates with new smartphones.......2.3.x S2, 4.0 S3, 4.1.2 NOTE 2, 4.2.2 S4, 4.3 NOTE 3, 4.4.2 S5, 4.4.4 NOTE 4, 5.0.2 S6, 5.1.1 NOTE 5, 6.0 S7? that's what i think, but there is some rumors that samsung already started working on 6.0 for the S6....so i don't know...

hajyihia said:
samsung usually releases the updates with new smartphones.......2.3.x S2, 4.0 S3, 4.1.2 NOTE 2, 4.2.2 S4, 4.3 NOTE 3, 4.4.2 S5, 4.4.4 NOTE 4, 5.0.2 S6, 5.1.1 NOTE 5, 6.0 S7? that's what i think, but there is some rumors that samsung already started working on 6.0 for the S6....so i don't know...
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That's nonsense, the S5 got Lollipop back in January, before the MWC event lol.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S6

dandroid13 said:
That's nonsense, the S5 got Lollipop back in January, before the MWC event lol.
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yes, the S5 had the 5.0 update early, even my old S4 had it, maybe 5.0 was released quickly......but i have to say 5.0 for the S4 and S5 was rubbish....so buggy and laggy

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ZE551ML and ZE550ML are currently being tested for Android M. It's not yet on the announcement board of zentalk but a moderator categorically replied to my thread in zentalk and confirmed that it's already starting the development stage. (see attached photo)
Link : http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=51072&extra=page=1&mobile=2

@ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks

I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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High expectations, high disappointment. Just like 5.1
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iancjc said:
I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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Don't wanna be too optimistic and rude at the same time. But isn't testing it on those devices implies plan to implement. Otherwise why test if there is no clear plan of development? Again am not being too optimistic just looking at all possible angles.
Just my two cents.

I was trying to analyze the message ARP_ASUS said, if they are testing it on ZE551ML and ZE550ML. Then definitely there is a source code available and optimize already for x86 device.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but u can't test something on a x86 device if you don't have a Android M source code specifically for x86 right?

Asus is not even capable of giving us 5.1. Forget about 6.0.
Just my humble opinion.
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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!

Level99 said:
Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!
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Yep and am pretty sure it's gonna be wild and filled with rants and complaints for the next few days in zentalk once the first gen or pre Zenfone 2 subgroup people read this and starts to sink in their heads. Lol
Not a clear road map as posted. But hey something is still better than being blind as to where zf2 is heading right??

nc and all but we don't even know if they will ever release it, just like that 5.1

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ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks
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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.

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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.
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Thanks, Keep us posted if something comes up.

I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.

While I would fully expect Asus to provide an update to at least 5.1, or even 6.0, I believe in you get what you pay for. For a $300 phone, you get good bang for your buck, and I appreciate Asus having a rep stay active in the forum, Reddit, and ZenTalk.
There's nothing that says Asus has to provide this update, since it's not a Nexus device, and looking at models like Samsung LG, or Moto, it takes months to get their phones to what is or was the current iteration of Android.
I did however stick my faith in Asus for what I think is a good product, and this will be the determining factor as to if I ever purchase anything Asus again. I think a lot of people feel that way. We could have gone the Moto or even OPO route, but when went with Asus. It's up to them to keep us happy and coming back.

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I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.
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I saw it being sold on Amazon.co.uk, the ww version that was being shipped from Amazon UK, which is great if you have a problem and need to return it. Though I would suggest getting the US version if you are set on getting this phone, because it has more bands unlocked, which I will admit their bands are a huge plus on this phone. Keep in mind that the second sim only works on 2G voice/text and data is software blocked.

Hoping for fixing battery drain Android OS crap with 6.0
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To think about it i dont have so much hope in asus
But can you like flash a dev 6.0 rom or something like that from dev for zen

To be fair, Asus is still better than the likes of Oppo - many of their phones are still stuck on KitKat.