Goes by and no sign of JB for the 8013. Sadness. I really thought it would be out this week. Anybody have any whispering about the wifi 8013 updates ?
Here are some things that are odd compared to Samsung's normal s/w roll outs:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
2) The German ROM is 3G. Historically Wi-Fi devices have received intermediate updates before 3G devices. For the OG G-Tab ICS update one region got a Wi-Fi update (UK) and another region got a 3G update (Italy). They were both released on the same day and were for Samsung's unlocked devices sold direct. The week after that other regions began receiving both updates.
3) There are no carrier specific apps or branding on the German ROM. And the lock screen short cuts were disabled but still packaged in the ROM as people that changed their CSC got them back. Both items are unusual.
4) Samsung released another 4.0.4 update for Argentina after the German JB ROM was outed. That doesn't make a lot of sense with JB so seemingly close to done. I've been using the German ROM since the day it became available and it's rock solid so it wouldn't seem as if there's a lot left for Samsung to do on it.
So it could all mean something or all mean nothing. But I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.
I am not expecting JB until at least around Christmas (it could even be later)
I'm not even expecting a JB update.
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JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.
Sparksltd said:
JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.
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Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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JB is just another rom but it does bring host of updates which enhances the tablet by many folds I am also still on ICS and waiting for official JB release but day by day tilting towards rooting my tab and installing JB rom
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Here are some things that are odd compared to Samsung's normal s/w roll outs:
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I can only speculate on the oddity based on my personal experience, which I will relate by way of a story.
Back in the mid to late '90s I worked for U.S. Robotics. One day they called a meeting to introduce the features of the latest software being made available for the Courier modems, the only flashable modems we had at the time. The engineer that was talking, very frankly, explained that we were adding the stupidest feature ever to our modems and that it was going to cause a ton of support calls. He went on to explain that the reason they added the feature was that a saleman had promised it to big client and that the direct sale of 20,000 modems hinged on the feature being added. Considering we made well over $100 on a direct sale, that was over $2 million profit and about $12 million in total sales.
So it's entirely possible that Samsung was looking at a big order from someone in Germany that was contingent on JB being released on the Note 10.1. Money will make companies do a lot of strange things.
Just flash the 8000 JB and change the governor to onDemand. Then you have a flawless Jelly Bean Rom until the 8013/8010 firmware is released.
My husband has an Asus Transformer Infinity tablet and he got JB last weekend. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone and got JB in Sept. He has a GIII phone and has no JB. I would expect he will get his JB update for his phone before I get an update for my Note 10.1. But then again, we are on Verizon. Maybe neither of us will get the update. I really don't understand Samsung not giving US Note owners JB. I know about how awful Verizon is about updating the phones.
Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:
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Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 2
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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.
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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.
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You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.
Looking at samsungs firmware update history at sammobile, the updates for all the other devices / regions comes around a month after the first update. So itll be december for us sadly :s
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Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:
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:laugh: I was thinking exactly the same, sometimes on monday...
But somewhat tells me that the actual JB was not completely finished, not buggy but usability flaws:
Annotate pictures, ok you can draw on the back of a picture, fine but to view it you get in that (paint)-editor again
did that make sense ? or did I overview something? Would be nicer with an airview support.:fingers-crossed:
Also in S-note when pressing the button on the s-pen while hovering, nice that it changes the pre-selectable writing tools (pen,pencil,brush,eraser) and cycle only through them. Edit: (works now)
My language is set to German, but got some French/ English texts...
I did 3 screenshots but didn't find out how I've done it! I know about the sw-button and the s-pen+button+press, but I was just looking through menues. Strange...
But otherwise, I like it. SApp- and Play-store works, also I didn't lose any data on the InternalSD (did move Tita. & Nand. backup to the extSD and computer)
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You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.
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Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc? I stopped reading the WIP thread because i saw too many people flashing etc. Repeatedly. Ive had quite a bit of Samsungs so im familiar with odin - whats the quicksst route without losing data? Will Samsung apps work on the 8013 even though it wont find a sim card ?
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Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc?
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Yes. I haven't been keeping up with the WIP thread but I'd guess their trying to figure out how to disable the 3G features in the ROM so it doesn't do strange things. I have a N8000 so anything I've shared is from using the ROM on it; not a Wi-Fi Note. So if your fellow Wi-Fi brethren have flashed the 3G ROM and the only issue has been wireless-related flakiness you should be fine. I'd read up some more on their experiences and make sure it's something you're comfortable with. I like JB but I was perfectly content with 4.0.4 which was very solid.
BarryH_GEG said:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
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This hasn't been the case for some time - for example, Ice Cream Sandwich came to unlocked Galaxy S2 last, after all the carrier-branded ones got it.
The rationale is that Samsung needs to tailor (test and fix bugs) each carrier branded device to that particular carrier's network, but the unlocked one needs to be tailored to *all* carrier networks and so needs to benefit from the sum of all the bug fixing/testing from all the other carriers. I don't necessarily agree, it's just what was said at the time.
I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.
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It could mean that they discovered bugs that needed to be fixed. They may be treating this german release a little like a public beta.
Here's another possible reason we're not hearing anything. The SGS3 JB roll-out doesn't appear to be going very well. This is from the SGS3 forum. If Samsung's rolling back SGS3 updates that's not a good thing for us as I'm sure the SGS3 is a higher-priority product based on sales alone and may be diverting attention from other devices. Purely speculation of course.
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I GOT THIS MESSAGE FROM SAMSUNG MOBILE INDIA
Dear Mr. Mahendrakar,
We acknowledge the receipt of your mail. We value the importance of information asked and we are here to assist you.
In response to your email regarding updation of the Samsung handset model GT-I9300 in android jelly bean version 4.1, we would like to inform you that android jelly bean version 4.1 was released earlier by Samsung India for Galaxy S III but now it rolled back due to some technical reasons, so we request you to kindly co-operate with us till the future release of Android v4.1 (Jelly bean) for mentioned handset and stay with us till then.
Any update in this regard will be conveyed to you by various means of communication.
We also thank you for your valuable feedback. We are forwarding your feedback to Product Innovation Team. Presently they are looking on same matter.
Regards,
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While speaking to a representative about the issue, she simply told me there was no official word on when 2.2 would make it to the USA. I began to go into detail, and I expressed to her that a top notch device should not be running obsolete software in less than 6 months. i asked her to explain why users were told 2.2 was coming soon back in september. after a while of talking, she finally told me that she "understands my frustration" and that 2.2 would be coming "in the upcoming days"
to me, this sounds better than the "upcoming weeks"
I also read in the epic forums that theres a rumored date of December 26th. As a skeptical XDA reader, I dismissed it as rumor. However, the comment from the representative is making me reconsider that.
She also gave me a number for support which i was unaware of. Maybe if everyone calls, they'll be reminded that we are the users who bought their top of the line product less than 6 months ago.
1-877-EZ2GALAXY
UPDATE:
Internal docs suggest froyo release on sprint is very soon. what i want to know, is if all the carriers have their finished builds and they're waiting for samsung, or if its the other way around.
http://www.androidcentral.com/leaked-image-confirms-epic-4gs-froyo-update-starts-dec-26
Speaking as someone who has worked cell phone customer service and tech support... Do you know when the reps will know when 2.2 is shipping? When they sign in for the day and get a call from a customer saying they received an update notification.
does anyone really care when it's actually released? With all the different flavors of ROMS you can install, who on here is actually waiting for the official anymore?
I care. I don't use other ROMS. I can't take the risk. I use my phone daily for business use and personal use. I need a stable, fast, and responsive phone that works the way it is expected to work. ROMS are great, and if I was a kid in high school or college I would use them, but now I need to have stability. The ROMS aren't stable and they are in a constant state of flux. There are way too many versions and flavors and I don't have the time to test and debug all of them. They don't have 24/7 technical support behind them. The official 2.2.1 will be stable and will have the technical backing. So, yes, I am waiting patiently for the official update to be sent to my phone.
Yeah seriously. Good for you bro, I'll proabably be running Gingerbread once you get your Froyo update. Take matters into your own hands and upgrade, or just stop, she told you that to get you off the phone. *******. Plus a little heads up, but 2.2 is not an OTA update, you'll have to DL and install yourself. It's not always as easy as a little popup window with an OK button.
kmfisher said:
I care. I don't use other ROMS. I can't take the risk. I use my phone daily for business use and personal use. I need a stable, fast, and responsive phone that works the way it is expected to work. ROMS are great, and if I was a kid in high school or college I would use them, but now I need to have stability. The ROMS aren't stable and they are in a constant state of flux. There are way too many versions and flavors and I don't have the time to test and debug all of them. They don't have 24/7 technical support behind them. The official 2.2.1 will be stable and will have the technical backing. So, yes, I am waiting patiently for the official update to be sent to my phone.
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How are they "unstable" The custom ROMs have issues yes, but so does the Official releases.
Most Dev's will help you, or anyone on here if you have problems, it's not hard. If you want to wait by my guest, but you'll probably be waiting longer than you think. Stop worrying about when you'll get the official and just load up a ROM or stick with your JI6 or JFD and wait..
@presence and joe
Some people have things to do. I personally like roms, but they are NOT stable. It is an absolute joke that a high end device will not run software of a current iteration. Also, I don't appreciate being called an idiot. I've been rooting since the G1, and I've used more roms, hacks, and mods than you could count.
The fact of the matter is that a company is offering NO support on a high end product. This is bigger than a stupid phone, it's the fact that large companies can lie in order to move a product, then ignore their own customers.
kmfisher said:
I care. I don't use other ROMS. I can't take the risk. I use my phone daily for business use and personal use. I need a stable, fast, and responsive phone that works the way it is expected to work. ROMS are great, and if I was a kid in high school or college I would use them, but now I need to have stability. The ROMS aren't stable and they are in a constant state of flux. There are way too many versions and flavors and I don't have the time to test and debug all of them. They don't have 24/7 technical support behind them. The official 2.2.1 will be stable and will have the technical backing. So, yes, I am waiting patiently for the official update to be sent to my phone.
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Perhaps XDA DEVELOPERS is not the site for you?
Not to sound harsh... Also, I realize it's just out of ignorance (honesly dont mean that to be rude), but if you would try one of the custom froyo roms you would probably realize how much better your phone can be. I've never had a FC or an app not work.... better gps... better signal... better battery....
The latest leaks might very well be the official froyo.....
What you got from the T-Mobile rep is just another post in the line of heard it from my uncle's, sister's friend's dog's vet kind of thing.
But, the Epic rumor does seem real, so that might be a good sign for us.
Plus, reports are the JL5 is very polished.
@lex
i actually still have the chat window open. idk if i can post pics cuz when im on XDA i usually dont log in or reply to posts. i mostly use it for reading material lol.
but i'll post a good portion of the chat window:
Stella: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Matthew: Hello
Matthew: I was wondering about the 2.2 update for galaxy s?
Stella: Hi Matthew.
Stella: I understand that you are looking for Android 2.2 update for your Samsung Mobile. Am I correct?
Matthew: That is correct
Stella: Thank you for the confirmation.
Stella: Unfortunately, as of now Android 2.2 is not Officially released in US.
Stella: Once it is released, it will be notified on the Samsung Website. You will get the notification on the phone over the air from your carrier Server.
Matthew: I've heard since I got the phone in July that 2.2 was on the horizon. It was supposed to be mid september.
Matthew: then by mid october
Matthew: and finally early november
Stella: I can understand that you have been waiting for so long for the update
Stella: Unfortunately there is no update available at this time for your phone, nor is there an estimated date of one being released. We are unable to speculate when/if a software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Matthew: I see
Matthew: but now i hear from samsung officially that 2.3 will not be available
Stella: Unfortunately, We in Samsung do not have the exact information of future updates or releases.
Matthew: the phone is less than 6 months old and can't get updates anymore?
Stella: I apologize for the delay.
Stella: However, the update should be released in upcoming days.
the chat continued and then:
Stella: I recommend you contact Samsung Voice Support at 1-877-EZ2GALAXY (1-877-392-4252). They are available Mon.-Fri. 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. CST, Sat. 9 a.m. - 6 p.m. CST.
Stella: They will provide you the information in detail.
That's all I'm saying. If they know anything, and they say a few days, it just adds a little more validity to the rumors we've all grown so tired of.
Also, I have used the leaked builds since JI6 was a leak. JK2 JK6 JL1 JL4 I even used JL5 and Cyanogen mod betas. This was until I realized that I LIKE to keep my data for more than a week before having to flash to stay up to date.
BS to the "not stable" roms.
run stock jk2/jk6/jl4 etc. and see what 2.2 really has in stock form--NEVER a FC or issue. You want 2.2? FLASH IT.
"The upcoming days" is simply business speak for "eventually, but I really have no idea when. It might be literally a couple days, or it could be months."
File under "I know a guy..."
TheSneakerWhore said:
BS to the "not stable" roms.
run stock jk2/jk6/jl4 etc. and see what 2.2 really has in stock form--NEVER a FC or issue. You want 2.2? Void your warranty and install a third party version of it!
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FTFY
I flashed custom ROMS the second they were available, however this is not an acceptable solution for a business. "DIY" is not end-user support.
gallagherm1993 said:
Stella: I recommend you contact Samsung Voice Support at 1-877-EZ2GALAXY (1-877-392-4252). They are available Mon.-Fri. 7 a.m. - 9 p.m. CST, Sat. 9 a.m. - 6 p.m. CST.
Stella: They will provide you the information in detail.
That's all I'm saying. If they know anything, and they say a few days, it just adds a little more validity to the rumors we've all grown so tired of.
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Call that number, I'm sure they won't tell you anymore than T-Mobile support will.
TheSneakerWhore said:
BS to the "not stable" roms.
run stock jk2/jk6/jl4 etc. and see what 2.2 really has in stock form--NEVER a FC or issue. You want 2.2? FLASH IT.
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None of these are stable. If they were stable, Samsung would have released them. All of them have failed Samsung's and T-Mobile's internal testing for one reason or another. Yet, they are put into ROMS with little or no testing. Not to mention the ROMS don't actually fix things. They rely on fixes from Samsung engineers in order to improve.
When you read issues about ROMS where MMS doesn't work, or volume buttons don't work, that is a big issue. That is not stable. I respect the ROM community. They do a great service for phone users itching for the latest and greatest. From a business perspective however they cannot be used. Business users can't have major features of phones not working. They can't be forced to have to reenter their data.
When a 2.2 upgrade passes Samsung and T-Mobile internal testing, then it will be released and will be supported. That's when I will upgrade, and that's why I want an official upgrade.
kmfisher said:
None of these are stable. If they were stable, Samsung would have released them. All of them have failed Samsung's and T-Mobile's internal testing for one reason or another. Yet, they are put into ROMS with little or no testing. Not to mention the ROMS don't actually fix things. They rely on fixes from Samsung engineers in order to improve.
When you read issues about ROMS where MMS doesn't work, or volume buttons don't work, that is a big issue. That is not stable. I respect the ROM community. They do a great service for phone users itching for the latest and greatest. From a business perspective however they cannot be used. Business users can't have major features of phones not working. They can't be forced to have to reenter their data.
When a 2.2 upgrade passes Samsung and T-Mobile internal testing, then it will be released and will be supported. That's when I will upgrade, and that's why I want an official upgrade.
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I beg to differ but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
kmfisher said:
None of these are stable. If they were stable, Samsung would have released them. All of them have failed Samsung's and T-Mobile's internal testing for one reason or another. Yet, they are put into ROMS with little or no testing. Not to mention the ROMS don't actually fix things. They rely on fixes from Samsung engineers in order to improve.
When you read issues about ROMS where MMS doesn't work, or volume buttons don't work, that is a big issue. That is not stable. I respect the ROM community. They do a great service for phone users itching for the latest and greatest. From a business perspective however they cannot be used. Business users can't have major features of phones not working. They can't be forced to have to reenter their data.
When a 2.2 upgrade passes Samsung and T-Mobile internal testing, then it will be released and will be supported. That's when I will upgrade, and that's why I want an official upgrade.
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This guy its actually correct.
When your in a business that you have to use your phone alot, I wouldn't be messing with it and he's correct about devs relying on samsung for all, of this. The froyo leak gave all the devs a chance to start on froyo.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
kmfisher said:
I care. I don't use other ROMS. I can't take the risk. I use my phone daily for business use and personal use. I need a stable, fast, and responsive phone that works the way it is expected to work. ROMS are great, and if I was a kid in high school or college I would use them, but now I need to have stability. The ROMS aren't stable and they are in a constant state of flux. There are way too many versions and flavors and I don't have the time to test and debug all of them. They don't have 24/7 technical support behind them. The official 2.2.1 will be stable and will have the technical backing. So, yes, I am waiting patiently for the official update to be sent to my phone.
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I myself do not feel like reentering data or reinstalling apps every 3 days. the rom community is great. and it worked fine for my G1 when cyanogen came out with a rom every month or two. but there are several new roms every week. each with a minor, but still existant issue. I love roms. and if i had another phone, I'd use one for roms and the other for stable, official releases.
Sign the petition here: http://www.change.org/petitions/htt...ndwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000
facebook petition page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-Android-40-ICS-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S/311749272184543
4195 signatures! keep signing if you haven't yet done so.
theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
got-petrol said:
theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
wrsg said:
they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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Making our opinions known will not change the fact that it will cost Samsung money, and possibly prevent them from making money off of us buying newer phones.
If you want it that bad, either cross your fingers or wait for an unofficial release.
Honestly really not much point in doing so. I'd be surprised if Samsung made ICS available to the i9000, but however no petition will make them listen. Developing ICS for the i9000 will cost them a lot of money they will not be willing to spend as the phone is outdated by the SGS 2.
All this threads about ICS while it's not released yet make me feel concerned about xda mods mental sanity for the months to come.
I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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if they do, it will be much easier porting ICS(or anything else, really) to our lovely device, where can i sign?
start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
$omator said:
start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
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Well, I am starting to think that we can't find one that has Android in it... Look even Google doesn't support their Nexus One that is more than capable to handle ICS. In less than 2 years time they will drop support for Galaxy Nexus claiming it is too old again... It's simply a shame.
It hurts me to say this but I am starting to admit that Android has failed in its purpose of proving that it was different in terms of policies than Apple. It's the same s***....
nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
$omator said:
nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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Don't be so sure that Google will be better than Samsung in that department. I don't think Nexus S will get a new major Android update after ICS but let's see...
This idea that you have to buy another phone every 2 years is completely out of reality. I don't want to spend 400€ for a new phone every 2 years. It's completely unacceptable. And if this rumor that I9000 is not getting it becomes true, then I will try my best to discourage Android for anyone I know and is thinking in getting a new phone. I suggest everyone else that feels like this to do the same and try to stop these companies of doing those practices.
NexusS will be supported until the phone that will follow Galaxy Nexus, something simmilar that we witness now
i get my phone for free every 2 years =) thats why i do not see a problem in exchanging it in this time period :]
trust me, no ics for i9000 is not an option, i9000 is their best seller for the moment.
leaving all shose people wo latest firmware upgrade would not be logic.
they are aware how many people would be pissed at them due that fact.
they were ahead when releasing sgs/nexuss now competition is catching up very quick
i do notthink that they are ready to piss so many people
question is how long will it be supported with ics updates and i guess this will decrease untill sgs3 release after witch it will stop
you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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Your thinking is wrong. If Samsung doesn't update their 400€ phones that are 1 year and a half old (And don't even care to do proper QA), then why should you buy another one that will get no updates after that period, even when the hardware can handle it very well? And then you look at Apple that updates their old 3GS (that runs at least twice as fast as the Galaxy S stock)... What reason has Apple to update the 3GS when they just launched the 4S? This is how you gain customer loyalty!
If at least the phone worked well stock, then I wouldn't complain much. But take JVT firmware as an example. It has so many bugs and is so slow!!! How can they do it with this hardware??????????????????
i will not buy SGS2/3 if i will not see ICS on SGS1, i would not want to get stuck again with no updates because they want to sell me their next, new phone
also with ICS on SGS i am aware that it could be missing some features from Galaxy Nexus version, and that it will not be as fast as on newer devices
i do not think that i am the only one that when considering GT-I9000 purchase was looking at this info/fact also
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@boliveira2 it's called consumption market... they want you to buy the newest ones otherwise they could just try to develop and optimize android os for all version (a little exaggeration i know) so you could run it on any phone... cyanogen released 7.1 for the Moto Cliq that didn't even get a 1.6 update here but they managed to do something about it... it's all marketing... why would they waste money and time and man power to update an old phone? i know it is disappointing, i am in the same boat as you... i'm not happy about this but this is it... i hope that i am wrong but... BTW is gingerbread official for all sgs's? i mean anyone can upgrade using kies?
us carrier variants seems to have froyo still same as some countries for gt-i9000 did not upgraded due to the bugs in gb (ex poland)
looks like samsung got overwhelmed by the variety of devices they support and obligations to google to update asap to latest firmware version (that "with Google" partnership) what resulted in overall mess ;]
I think in the end if you want the latest updates for a long time you have to buy the Google phones, period.
It's a shame but that's just the way it is. I think if many people turned their noses at the Samsung/HTC/Motorola-branded phones until they improve their updates they might actually get the picture. As it is most people rush out to get the latest, shiniest closed-driver carrier-specific device and then complain about updates later.
Perhaps this will change now that many Android users are more experienced and have learned their lesson, like so many of us here. If a huge chunk of us ignore devices other than Nexus they might get the point. One thing they may have to do if they really get serious about better updates is tell the carriers, especially the glacial ones here in North America, to screw off and stay out of it. Apple and Nexus phones get their frequent and timely updates mostly because the carriers are out of the loop.
What most have also forgotten is Google want ICS to stop fragmentation but what's happened is its made it worse.
Doing a petition to google to force samsung to roll out ICS
Samsung are clearly using this to sell devices as always
Then after that you have networks to sort as Vodafone in the UK have not released any updates to the Galaxy s past 2.3.3
Google phones get updates faster then from samsung and networks but the Galaxy Nexus is not that good i'll wait for the Motorola Nexus next time round
The rom is designed to work on the Nexus s and the specs are almost the same as the Galaxy s
Fragmentation Kills Android
I was just looking at Engadget, and I saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
Here is what the article it says:
"We've come across an internal document from Bell Mobility that's bound to raise the hopes of a few good Canadians. Yes folks, we're talking Ice Cream Sandwich. The carrier to the north estimates that it'll have Android 4.0 ready for the Sensation in February, which is to be followed by the Raider's update in March -- this handset may be more familiar to AT&T customers as the Vivid. Pulling up the rear, users of the Galaxy S II are to expect the upgrade in April, and while the Optimus LTE is also mentioned, there's no specific time frame for that one. Certainly estimated release dates don't always come to fruition, but at least we know what Bell's aiming for, anyway."
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I really hope this estimate is wrong, what do you think?
Kp1. Maybe P = April
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I think that is the date the Galaxy SII will get ICS on that carrier. Remember that a lot of carriers delay updates to their phones so they can be "certified". Also, if we already have a pretty much working build of ICS (give or take a few force closes and battery life), how can it take them so long to polish it?
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
Bell is very, very slow at releasing official firmware updates. As far as I know the SGSII still comes with their carrier branded 2.3.3
If they're releasing in April and that happens to be at the same time as ICS goes global, I'd be very, very, VERY surprised. Just a possibility.
I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I think I am going to get the next nexus phone regardless of when we get ICS for the GS2.
to be honest i hope they dont rush it , it isnt just building ics for their hardware it needs intensive testing as well
the sgs2 has shipped over 10 million units now , releasing a firmware with bugs in it could do more harm then good and id rather wait and get a rock solid ics for our phones and for the devs to have a solid base to tweak from
lets face it they got the firmware the phone shipped with pretty dam good and i hope too see a nice stable ics release from them too
i use my phone to much to be using beta software and ive had enough nokias in my time and had enough of unstable buggy firmware and waiting for patches to come to fix the bugs
i think april sounds about right for a genuine samsung firmware that has been fully tested for stabillity and compatabillity with apps and extras
Does not sound like an xda developer member...just sayin'
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jonny68 said:
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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Here we go again!
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Here we go again!
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They do it because they're mean. But I guess they don't like law suits either. Mean.
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This really means nothing for international GS2's. More than likely Samsung's ICS will release in late December/early January and those on XDA will have it looong before Bell in Canada.
Bell is an North America carrier which does not have any Apple vs. Samsung court cases.
Yet, rest of the world do. That's why I can certainly say that Ice Cream Sandwich for SGS II & Galaxy Tabs will be the fastest delivery of an Android distribution (from Google release to End users) Samsung ever made.
That date is for carrier branded phones.
For international phones it would be much sooner.
I'm expecting mid Jan
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how can it take them so long to polish it?
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Dude... Have you ever tried to polish ice cream? Took me ages and it still wasnt that shiney...
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Hope you guys that live in Europe get the update Asap. Here in Latin America (Brazil), we will receive the update maybe on Q3 2012. But, i really hope that all of us can get CM9 before April.
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Its actually samsung's fault they haven't got it working yet. Samsung hasn't released kernel sources yet. I think the main obstacle right now for cm9 is the RIL is unstable. Codeworkx said once they can stabilize that they'd probably have a beta soon after. Kernel sources would give the cm9 team what they need to get RIL stable. So when we get that or a leak with stable RIL we should get cm9. I totally believe the cm team will get to the finish line long before Samsung. The other devices already getting alphas and betas of cm9 must just be easier to get working. I've read the galaxy sII is "unique" to code for because of the hardware.
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At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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There's still a lot of work to be done by Sammy.
They can't release something they don't have - makes sense, doesn't it?
As for the second part of your statement: They did. KP1, nuff said.
Definitely for that carrier.
KP1 is already released and all the major functions work. So another month max it will take to release the stable version.
And I didn't pay 600 US$ to Devs, but Samsung, so it's their responsibility to release it at time, hence I don't give a damn what Devs are doing.
Still I think Samsung should take a little bit of extra time, if it's needed, it's far better to release a Stable version than releasing a non stable one in a hurry. Also Google said that they would like the manufacturers to use 4.0.3 as the base version, so I don't know if Samsung will give us 4.0.1 like KP1 or directly 4.0.3.
Google also wants 4.0.3 as the base version of Ice Cream Sandwich to be used by Android handset manufacturers.
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Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/gsm_galaxy_nexus_gets_402_update_403_announced_already-news-3533.php
It’s been a bit of a roller-coaster when it comes to Jelly Bean on the Galaxy S2. Release dates have been pushed back and back, and there have recently been rumors flying about from Samsung Korea, but a solid release date still eludes S2 owners.
Well now we might actually be getting close to something more definite, as a Samsung spokesperson has stated that Android 4.1 updates will begin rolling out to current S2 owners in the beginning of February, if you’re living in Singapore.
So that’s both good news and bad news I suppose, great news that we are officially moving closer to a release date, but bad news as we still have no idea when the rest of the world will be seeing the update.
I suspect that the official release will fit with the recently information leaked from Samsung Korea, which interestingly has been taken down after it leaked. The leaked image showed the device running Android 4.1.2 and also listed the pre-installed apps and functionality which will ship with the update. Whilst 4.1.2 is not the newest version of Android, the update will contain all of the major Jelly Bean features, such as the updated camera, enhanced notification panel, swipe gesture typing, Google Now, and Project Butter.
So when can users in other regions expect to see the Jelly Bean update? Well it’s hard to say exactly, but we are probably still in for a long wait before we see any updates roll out in Europe or the US, as carriers will still want to tweak their specific versions of the update, and make sure that all their bloatware still works.
The good news is that we are officially etching ever closer, so we should hopefully see the Jelly Bean update roll out across the globe in the months following February.
link-
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s2-jelly-bean-update-singapore-147111/
Enough Sammy!
We ain't really playing your game anymore!
I am done with Samsung and It's little JB. I am pretty sure JB that sammy releases won't be no different to ICS (Except for Butter and few other spices).
Sammy -> ***** please! I'm done with ya & your exinos crap!. CM 10.1 \m/
Not interested anymore to Jellybean update for SGS2. Its because of delaying tactics from Samsung. They released Galaxy S2 plus with JB. I think Samsung is focusing on sales for SGS2 plus. So that JB for SGS2 is delayed. Samsung Sucks!
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Neo said:
Enough Sammy!
We ain't really playing your game anymore!
I am done with Samsung and It's little JB. I am pretty sure JB that sammy releases won't be no different to ICS (Except for Butter and few other spices).
Sammy -> ***** please! I'm done with ya & your exinos crap!. CM 10.1 \m/
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+1
cm 10.1 is better anyway.
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I will probably have key lime pie before it is released .Forget it guys.
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I threw cm 10.1 off a rock and the rock broke.
Solid
I think what's really sad is that Samsung is still the fastest third-party company in terms of OS upgrades... :/
Neckon said:
I think what's really sad is that Samsung is still the fastest third-party company in terms of OS upgrades... :/
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This.
I has a sig
Thanks for the beautiful phone sammy.. how ever i wont put stock ROM.. release the source code... thats enuf for us....
carlocarrera said:
cm 10.1 is better anyway.
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Yes but when you are using wifi or 3g its like battery killer.....
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I already Post this please delete this thread
sam77744 said:
It’s been a bit of a roller-coaster when it comes to Jelly Bean on the Galaxy S2. Release dates have been pushed back and back, and there have recently been rumors flying about from Samsung Korea, but a solid release date still eludes S2 owners.
Well now we might actually be getting close to something more definite, as a Samsung spokesperson has stated that Android 4.1 updates will begin rolling out to current S2 owners in the beginning of February, if you’re living in Singapore.
So that’s both good news and bad news I suppose, great news that we are officially moving closer to a release date, but bad news as we still have no idea when the rest of the world will be seeing the update.
I suspect that the official release will fit with the recently information leaked from Samsung Korea, which interestingly has been taken down after it leaked. The leaked image showed the device running Android 4.1.2 and also listed the pre-installed apps and functionality which will ship with the update. Whilst 4.1.2 is not the newest version of Android, the update will contain all of the major Jelly Bean features, such as the updated camera, enhanced notification panel, swipe gesture typing, Google Now, and Project Butter.
So when can users in other regions expect to see the Jelly Bean update? Well it’s hard to say exactly, but we are probably still in for a long wait before we see any updates roll out in Europe or the US, as carriers will still want to tweak their specific versions of the update, and make sure that all their bloatware still works.
The good news is that we are officially etching ever closer, so we should hopefully see the Jelly Bean update roll out across the globe in the months following February.
link-
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s2-jelly-bean-update-singapore-147111/
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I already post a thread like this please delete this one.
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sam77744 said:
It’s been a bit of a roller-coaster when it comes to Jelly Bean on the Galaxy S2. Release dates have been pushed back and back, and there have recently been rumors flying about from Samsung Korea, but a solid release date still eludes S2 owners.
Well now we might actually be getting close to something more definite, as a Samsung spokesperson has stated that Android 4.1 updates will begin rolling out to current S2 owners in the beginning of February, if you’re living in Singapore.
So that’s both good news and bad news I suppose, great news that we are officially moving closer to a release date, but bad news as we still have no idea when the rest of the world will be seeing the update.
I suspect that the official release will fit with the recently information leaked from Samsung Korea, which interestingly has been taken down after it leaked. The leaked image showed the device running Android 4.1.2 and also listed the pre-installed apps and functionality which will ship with the update. Whilst 4.1.2 is not the newest version of Android, the update will contain all of the major Jelly Bean features, such as the updated camera, enhanced notification panel, swipe gesture typing, Google Now, and Project Butter.
So when can users in other regions expect to see the Jelly Bean update? Well it’s hard to say exactly, but we are probably still in for a long wait before we see any updates roll out in Europe or the US, as carriers will still want to tweak their specific versions of the update, and make sure that all their bloatware still works.
The good news is that we are officially etching ever closer, so we should hopefully see the Jelly Bean update roll out across the globe in the months following February.
link-
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s2-jelly-bean-update-singapore-147111/
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I post the same thread before you.
gop97 said:
I already post a thread like this please delete this one.
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I post the same thread before you.
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Actually looking at the datestamps on the posts, this one was created before yours...
1997. Hmm. Maybe let's make all forums layout the same, as Facebook looks. Then everyone would know, how to use all functions.
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What is samsung singing to all their S2 customers:
Opps.... i did it again!! :angel:
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Dont forget one thing... Samsung only Updates devices because they want...
Because if they dont... You wanted a New software device, you got to buy a New one... So wait and be pacient... Relax...
When you get Jelly Bean... In one week you all say... I want key lime Now.... 5.0 please Men....
And they will say... Oooh Now you want a 5.0? Buy a New one... Get it?
They do that because they want it...
Dont stress out.. Just wait...
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Jonny said:
Actually looking at the datestamps on the posts, this one was created before yours...
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yes, and is a op.thanks bro
I am started hating these kind of thread...
Please anyone block or remove these kind of threads or even start ignoring sammobile for fake news november dec jan feb just get lost,so sick of these news...happy with ics and i am not waiting anymore...first was due to s3 now due to s 2 plus wow i miss is s 2 advance is also on line...
Nicko80..... +1
All this whinging about how crap Samsung is is doing my head in. There is a reason they are one of the biggest sellers of devices and that their phones are top of the hackers pile. The devices and the updates are among the best out there.
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And to all guys that are thinking to go buy a Sony Z.. Think twice... Why?
Because you all cry for Updates from Samsung... Well.. Sony didnt Update none of their old devices to Jelly Bean... Go buy a Sony Z and cry later for 4.2.1 and for 5.0...You all will cry for a Samsung...
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And to all guys that are thinking to go buy a Sony Z.. Think twice... Why?
Because you all cry for Updates from Samsung... Well.. Sony didnt Update none of their old devices to Jelly Bean... Go buy a Sony Z and cry later for 4.2.1 and for 5.0...You all will cry for a Samsung...
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Sony will run flawleslly custom roms like CM, with butter and all the stuff, so you will not have to cry or wait for Sony to update or release sources or whatever.
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
"We were just informed by HTC they would skip 4.2.2 and go straight to 4.3 in the early Fall."
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It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
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I'm finding this hard to believe as the 4.2 update has already been released.
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I'm finding this hard to believe as the 4.2 update has already been released.
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Lmao this
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Most of HTC ONE are already running on 4.2.2.
Batskoning said:
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
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Ithink this is weird to 4.2.2 is already released.
Ik denk dat dit raar is omdat 4.2.2 al uitkomen is.
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It might be true if they know it's coming out, why push 4.2.2 out if they know 4.3 is on it's way. But my heart is saying yes but my mind is saying no logic normally wins but I'd like to be proven wrong
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Batskoning said:
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
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Yo dude....answer your phone next time!
The Project said:
Yo dude....answer your phone next time!
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Dude!! I just copied everything from an other side.. Inc this picture
They took so long to get 4.2.2 out to the US but it's essentially ready now (given that it has been pushed to the international phones already). I'd be really surprised if they completely skip 4.2.2 in the US given the level of demand for it and how little work it would take at this point to get it out.
Haha I don't see how they can skip 4.2 when it's already out...
Doubt it seeing how HTC can't even get 4.2 out in a timely matter. You'll get 4.2 then 4.3 maybe next year at the rate it is taking for 4.2 to release.
Batskoning said:
Android 4.3 upgrade 'in the early fall,' says carrier
A few days back we caught wind that the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 might be jumping straight from Android 4.1 to (the still unannounced) version 4.3 in some countries. And today it seems at least one other phone might be doing the same. Android Central forum member NKYRacing got in touch with Cincinnati Bell to ask about the just-released 4.2.2 update for his phone, only to be told by the carrier that its HTC One would instead get an update straight to Android 4.3 —
It's unclear whether any other HTC One variants might also leapfrog 4.2, although we should note that the current 4.2.2 update is already rolling out in Europe and Asia. Hopefully we'll learn more once Android 4.3 is officially announced — and it's looking like that's going to happen sooner rather than later.
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What will be the htc one x?
Well it's August 9th and in Canada no 4.2 update yet....so 4.3? I hope but really doubt it.
krouri said:
Well it's August 9th and in Canada no 4.2 update yet....so 4.3? I hope but really doubt it.
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I'm kinda dissapointed about no Canadian 4.2.2 but there's not much we could do. I'd be happy going straight to 4.3
*Quality Not Quantity*
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I actually just had a chat with HTC support and they said Canada WILL be getting the 4.2.2 update. No eta was given for known issues. But the lady told me to check frequently so I hope it's coming soon.
*Quality Not Quantity*
Word has it that Verizon is paying the broke HTC to not release the update to North American markets yet. Not until Verizon gets the HTC one. Sounds stupid, but for the uninformed enthusiast, this could mean a source of frustration towards the current carrier (Tmo aTT sprint) and an incentive to switch to Verizon because it obviously is better at testing and approving updates than other carriers.
Again, just a rumor out of (almost) thin air.
sauprankul said:
Word has it that Verizon is paying the broke HTC to not release the update to North American markets yet. Not until Verizon gets the HTC one. Sounds stupid, but for the uninformed enthusiast, this could mean a source of frustration towards the current carrier (Tmo aTT sprint) and an incentive to switch to Verizon because it obviously is better at testing and approving updates than other carriers.
Again, just a rumor out of (almost) thin air.
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While that may very loosely make sense in the U.S. why should that affect Canadians?
Most Americans would not know who Telus, Rogers or Bell is. It is not like Canadians would say "geez I'm going to switch to Verizon because they have a newer OS for the HTC One". Canada is a separate country from the U.S and should be treated as such. Hell, Google has either forgotten about us with Movies and TV and Google Music......or the CRTC is a pain in the a**. How is that related to your Verizon rumour? About as much as American carrier politics has to do with us.
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Is there any indication that HTC has even pushed 4.2.2 to the carriers for their "approvals"?
And when are the Dev Editions supposed to get updates? If 4.2.2. is ready, can't HTC just push directly to dev editions?
jmitr said:
While that may very loosely make sense in the U.S. why should that affect Canadians?
Most Americans would not know who Telus, Rogers or Bell is. It is not like Canadians would say "geez I'm going to switch to Verizon because they have a newer OS for the HTC One". Canada is a separate country from the U.S and should be treated as such. Hell, Google has either forgotten about us with Movies and TV and Google Music......or the CRTC is a pain in the a**. How is that related to your Verizon rumour? About as much as American carrier politics has to do with us.
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I would believe that Canada is a separate country but this talk of Verizon entering Canada makes you wonder why we haven't received the update. I also think the CRTC is a pain in the ass too. I want my update too!
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Good job HTC... thank god there is the convert to Google edition thread.
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mxrider108 said:
They took so long to get 4.2.2 out to the US but it's essentially ready now (given that it has been pushed to the international phones already). I'd be really surprised if they completely skip 4.2.2 in the US given the level of demand for it and how little work it would take at this point to get it out.
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i have a hunch that once the verizon variant would be released, the US versions of the HTC would (FINALLY GOD DAMNIT) get the 4.2.2 update.. what was the point of buying an unlocked ver if i get the updates last?