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Hints at ICS being released in April :(

I was just looking at Engadget, and I saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
Here is what the article it says:
"We've come across an internal document from Bell Mobility that's bound to raise the hopes of a few good Canadians. Yes folks, we're talking Ice Cream Sandwich. The carrier to the north estimates that it'll have Android 4.0 ready for the Sensation in February, which is to be followed by the Raider's update in March -- this handset may be more familiar to AT&T customers as the Vivid. Pulling up the rear, users of the Galaxy S II are to expect the upgrade in April, and while the Optimus LTE is also mentioned, there's no specific time frame for that one. Certainly estimated release dates don't always come to fruition, but at least we know what Bell's aiming for, anyway."
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I really hope this estimate is wrong, what do you think?

Kp1. Maybe P = April
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I think that is the date the Galaxy SII will get ICS on that carrier. Remember that a lot of carriers delay updates to their phones so they can be "certified". Also, if we already have a pretty much working build of ICS (give or take a few force closes and battery life), how can it take them so long to polish it?

At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.

Bell is very, very slow at releasing official firmware updates. As far as I know the SGSII still comes with their carrier branded 2.3.3
If they're releasing in April and that happens to be at the same time as ICS goes global, I'd be very, very, VERY surprised. Just a possibility.

I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.

luke05dee said:
I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I think I am going to get the next nexus phone regardless of when we get ICS for the GS2.

to be honest i hope they dont rush it , it isnt just building ics for their hardware it needs intensive testing as well
the sgs2 has shipped over 10 million units now , releasing a firmware with bugs in it could do more harm then good and id rather wait and get a rock solid ics for our phones and for the devs to have a solid base to tweak from
lets face it they got the firmware the phone shipped with pretty dam good and i hope too see a nice stable ics release from them too
i use my phone to much to be using beta software and ive had enough nokias in my time and had enough of unstable buggy firmware and waiting for patches to come to fix the bugs
i think april sounds about right for a genuine samsung firmware that has been fully tested for stabillity and compatabillity with apps and extras

Does not sound like an xda developer member...just sayin'
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jonny68 said:
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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Here we go again!

Intratech said:
Here we go again!
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They do it because they're mean. But I guess they don't like law suits either. Mean.
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This really means nothing for international GS2's. More than likely Samsung's ICS will release in late December/early January and those on XDA will have it looong before Bell in Canada.

Bell is an North America carrier which does not have any Apple vs. Samsung court cases.
Yet, rest of the world do. That's why I can certainly say that Ice Cream Sandwich for SGS II & Galaxy Tabs will be the fastest delivery of an Android distribution (from Google release to End users) Samsung ever made.

That date is for carrier branded phones.
For international phones it would be much sooner.
I'm expecting mid Jan

xethor said:
how can it take them so long to polish it?
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Dude... Have you ever tried to polish ice cream? Took me ages and it still wasnt that shiney...
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Hope you guys that live in Europe get the update Asap. Here in Latin America (Brazil), we will receive the update maybe on Q3 2012. But, i really hope that all of us can get CM9 before April.

vicelord.leo said:
Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Its actually samsung's fault they haven't got it working yet. Samsung hasn't released kernel sources yet. I think the main obstacle right now for cm9 is the RIL is unstable. Codeworkx said once they can stabilize that they'd probably have a beta soon after. Kernel sources would give the cm9 team what they need to get RIL stable. So when we get that or a leak with stable RIL we should get cm9. I totally believe the cm team will get to the finish line long before Samsung. The other devices already getting alphas and betas of cm9 must just be easier to get working. I've read the galaxy sII is "unique" to code for because of the hardware.

jonny68 said:
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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There's still a lot of work to be done by Sammy.
They can't release something they don't have - makes sense, doesn't it?
As for the second part of your statement: They did. KP1, nuff said.

Definitely for that carrier.
KP1 is already released and all the major functions work. So another month max it will take to release the stable version.
And I didn't pay 600 US$ to Devs, but Samsung, so it's their responsibility to release it at time, hence I don't give a damn what Devs are doing.
Still I think Samsung should take a little bit of extra time, if it's needed, it's far better to release a Stable version than releasing a non stable one in a hurry. Also Google said that they would like the manufacturers to use 4.0.3 as the base version, so I don't know if Samsung will give us 4.0.1 like KP1 or directly 4.0.3.
Google also wants 4.0.3 as the base version of Ice Cream Sandwich to be used by Android handset manufacturers.
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Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/gsm_galaxy_nexus_gets_402_update_403_announced_already-news-3533.php

Xoom Getting Jellybean Update Next Month..

"Jelly Bean will come to the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S smartphones and the Xoom tablet in mid-July, but developers can download the app-development tools starting today from Google's Android developers site."
It's ridiculous that the Xoom will have Jellybean before we get ICS officially..
Android 4.1 Jellybean is coming to XOOM

I'm in luck! I have a Galaxy Nexus.

Man you got me all excited... You should edit your post. No where in that article dose it say that "Galaxy S" devices are getting Jelly Bean. Just Nexus branded devices.
And it kind of makes sense that the Xoom would get JB... Its been out a bit longer and didn't it already get its ICS update? Not sure on the ICS update, I don't really follow the Xoom so...
I have to say this though..... I've pretty much just stopped caring about any updates. I have a Galaxy S2 and a Galaxy10.1 both of them rooted and running Gingerbread and Honeycomb based roms. Caulks"GB"(S2) and GalaxyTask_14_Slim"HC"(GT10.1) I have got to say that both of my devices benchmark just as good(if not a little bit better) on GB roms as they do on ICS roms. And everything works as it should, no resets, lag or lockups.
Don't get me wrong, I would love official ICS on both of my devices. I just figure it's really not that important to me anymore. Plus I would rather any update that's pushed be as polished as it can be. After the mess HC was before the devs fixed it... I'm just saying...
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Bahahaha! The GT will not see Jelly Bean. ****, we haven't even seen ICS yet. This is ridiculous. I have my GS3 pre-order arriving tomorrow and if I don't love it, I'll be trading it in for the Galaxy Nexus. I believe Nexus devices is the way to go really.

The reason the Xoom will get an update is because it is a reference device.
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SouthPhilly said:
Man you got me all excited... You should edit your post. No where in that article dose it say that "Galaxy S" devices are getting Jelly Bean. Just Nexus branded devices.
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Hi...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-android-4-1-jelly-bean-coming-to-samsung-galaxy-nexus-m/

SouthPhilly said:
I've pretty much just stopped caring about any updates. I have a Galaxy S2 and a Galaxy10.1 both of them rooted and running Gingerbread based roms..
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Gingerbread on your 10.1 eh? Sounds fun...
Galaxy Task 14 is Honeycomb.

SirBindy said:
Gingerbread on your 10.1 eh? Sounds fun...
Galaxy Task 14 is Honeycomb.
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Woops!!! Meet Honeycomb... LoL
Edit: edited original reply.
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eXplicit815 said:
Man you got me all excited... You should edit your post. No where in that article dose it say that "Galaxy S" devices are getting Jelly Bean. Just Nexus branded devices.
Hi...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-android-4-1-jelly-bean-coming-to-samsung-galaxy-nexus-m/
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Hey buddy, how you doing!?!?
As I said in my post that you quoted... Just "Nexus" brand devices (Edit: plus the Xoom) will see Jelly Bean.
In reply you linked me to the same webpage the OP linked us to? I've already seen that Engadet articale. But I figured, hey maybe I missed something when I read it the first time. So I clicked the link again, and carefully reread the article again. You know... Just to make sure...
Well... I stand behind my my original statement. I've made study materials. (see photo below)
Example 1. The title: Please take note, in the title of the article their is mention of the following devices. The "Samsung Galaxy Nexus, the " Nexus S" and the "Xoom". No mention of a Galaxy S device.
Example 2. Somebody spilled the Beans!!! Clean up in aisle 9!!!
Example 3. Please show me where in example 3 it says anything about a Galaxy S device getting the Jelly Bean(4.1) update in mid July...
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And like one of the other posters stated... The only way Galaxy10 owners will ever see Jelly Bean will be Thanks to the awesome devs involved with this site.
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I'm sure we'll get JB unofficially...

Actually, the chances of us getting jelly bean is very high, this device is 11 month old, Google promised that any android device in the market will have at least 18 month of support. That means, any updates Google does to android in that period of time should get an update.

sebastianlow said:
Actually, the chances of us getting jelly bean is very high, this device is 11 month old, Google promised that any android device in the market will have at least 18 month of support. That means, any updates Google does to android in that period of time should get an update.
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In theory, yes, but in practice I'd like to see Samsung manage an ICS update for the tab before I start dreaming about jelly beans.

Got jb already on my gnex xD
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msedek said:
Got jb already on my gnex xD
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And your testicles are really big, what a great guy you are.

If you want to talk about the Xoom, please post in the Xoom section.
If you want to talk about potential ICS and/or Jelly Bean updates for the Galaxy Tab, please post in the ICS/JB sticky.

Samsung Galaxy S3 to Receive Android 4.1, JellyBean in Q4 2012

The Samsung Galaxy S3 will receive the Android 4.1, JellyBean update in the fourth quarter of 2012.
The software was unveiled by Google during the company's Google I/O keynote earlier this week, according to YouMobile.org.
The first devices to receive the software will be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and the Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi tablet with an OTA update coming in the middle of July.
JellyBean brings a number of enhancements to the already impressive Android 4.0 that improve touch responsiveness and the overall smoothness of animations and the UI. The frame rate has also been accelerated to 60 frames per second.
Google displayed demos of the redesigned widgets in the software that scale intelligently around other UI elements along with a new Predictive Keyboard that takes voice commands.
Android 4.1, also features redesigned notifications that Google has now made fully customizable, expandable, and collapsible.
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Google execs also presented a demo during the event that displayed the new notifications expanding to provide more information as they reached the top of the list and how they also can be expanded and collapsed at any time with gestures.
Jelly Bean will also have an improved voice search that is very similar to Apple's Siri voice navigation system featured on the iPhone 4S.
A new feature called "Google Now" also debuted at the event.
"Google Now" functions as a search product that utilizes customizable cards such as "Sports" or "Flights" that will keep users up to date on data that is important to them. It also provides users with personal assistant-like features.
For example, the cards feature gives up to date information based on a user's personal preference and location. It also updates travel information for people running late and give sports scores for teams that the user likes.
http://global.christianpost.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-receive-android-4-1-jellybean-in-q4-2012-77422/

jothi2lingam said:
he Samsung Galaxy S3 will receive the Android 4.1, JellyBean update in the fourth quarter of 2012.
The software was unveiled by Google during the company's Google I/O keynote earlier this week, according to YouMobile.org.
The first devices to receive the software will be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and the Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi tablet with an OTA update coming in the middle of July.
JellyBean brings a number of enhancements to the already impressive Android 4.0 that improve touch responsiveness and the overall smoothness of animations and the UI. The frame rate has also been accelerated to 60 frames per second.
Google displayed demos of the redesigned widgets in the software that scale intelligently around other UI elements along with a new Predictive Keyboard that takes voice commands.
Android 4.1, also features redesigned notifications that Google has now made fully customizable, expandable, and collapsible.
Follow us
Google execs also presented a demo during the event that displayed the new notifications expanding to provide more information as they reached the top of the list and how they also can be expanded and collapsed at any time with gestures.
Jelly Bean will also have an improved voice search that is very similar to Apple's Siri voice navigation system featured on the iPhone 4S.
A new feature called "Google Now" also debuted at the event.
"Google Now" functions as a search product that utilizes customizable cards such as "Sports" or "Flights" that will keep users up to date on data that is important to them. It also provides users with personal assistant-like features.
For example, the cards feature gives up to date information based on a user's personal preference and location. It also updates travel information for people running late and give sports scores for teams that the user likes.
http://global.christianpost.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-receive-android-4-1-jellybean-in-q4-2012-77422/
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Cool, bro.
But you could have posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739204

Oomahey said:
Cool, bro.
But you could have posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739204
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Sure dude didnt saw his thread..Anyway cant wait wait for Jelly Bean:cyclops:

Q4? I thought the sources were due in July. Expect 2-3 weeks before the first real AOSP-roms pop up, so in August everyone who cares will be running 4.1
Who cares about Samsung-official stuff anymore?

Where's Q4 coming from?
I know they're in with god and all, but somehow I don't think "The Christian Post" knows better than Samsung's own Twitter.

esist said:
Where's Q4 coming from?
I know they're in with god and all, but somehow I don't think "The Christian Post" knows better than Samsung's own Twitter.
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Sammobile is not Samsung's twitter.
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If they say Q4 then expect it by may 2013
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joshnichols189 said:
Sammobile is not Samsung's twitter.
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Hadn't noticed that. Well in that case, it remains to be seen as far as I'm concerned.
Only something coming directly from a Samsung source is reliable. Samsung don't announce these things privately in press conferences, they just tweet it.
Have they confirmed a timeframe themselves? (In China + On Twitter = I can't check easily)

I thought that the PDK support that comes with JB would make it easier for the OEM's to release faster updates. Q4 is too late

leftheodo said:
I thought that the PDK support that comes with JB would make it easier for the OEM's to release faster updates. Q4 is too late
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No it isn't.
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joshnichols189 said:
No it isn't.
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Lol!
For Samsung, Q4 is super fast!!!
Let's just wait and see and keep the speculation to a minimum for now because it only leads to "wtf, I don't has jellybeenz yet, why iz Samsung mean to me!!!11" Threads.
It'll come when it comes.
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nodstuff said:
Lol!
For Samsung, Q4 is super fast!!!
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Why does everyone say this? I don't get it. I don't see any manufacturer that get updates out faster.
Samsung should be faster. They all should. But everyone always seems to say that Samsung are very bad for getting updates out fast. Relatively speaking, they seem quite fast.

esist said:
Why does everyone say this? I don't get it. I don't see any manufacturer that get updates out faster.
Samsung should be faster. They all should. But everyone always seems to say that Samsung are very bad for getting updates out fast. Relatively speaking, they seem quite fast.
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That's everyone's response due to what happen to the sgs1,which still got gingerbread at a reasonable time just not the us carrier versions.
SGS2 was faster, but still the us SGS2 suffered due to carrier request and delays.
Really it's the US carriers fault. US won't see jelly bean for 6 to 9 months.
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SlimJ87D said:
That's everyone's response due to what happen to the sgs1,which still got gingerbread at a reasonable time just not the us carrier versions.
SGS2 was faster, but still the us SGS2 suffered due to carrier request and delays.
Really it's the US carriers fault. US won't see jelly bean for 6 to 9 months.
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Ironically the US Galaxy Nexus gets jellybean first.
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SlimJ87D said:
That's everyone's response due to what happen to the sgs1,which still got gingerbread at a reasonable time just not the us carrier versions.
SGS2 was faster, but still the us SGS2 suffered due to carrier request and delays.
Really it's the US carriers fault. US won't see jelly bean for 6 to 9 months.
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My sentiments exactly. I remember waiting for Gingerbread on my S1. But I don't remember envying every other manufacturers update speed. I (possibly) remember HTC shipping one slightly faster but nothing long enough to warrant the "Samsung updates are **** slow" mentality that everyone seems to have.
The post I quoted was from someone in Ireland though. You can't blame the US networks for that.

esist said:
My sentiments exactly. I remember waiting for Gingerbread on my S1. But I don't remember envying every other manufacturers update speed. I (possibly) remember HTC shipping one slightly faster but nothing long enough to warrant the "Samsung updates are **** slow" mentality that everyone seems to have.
The post I quoted was from someone in Ireland though. You can't blame the US networks for that.
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Well seeing that Ireland is GSM we get our updates first along with all GSM ppls.
I'm just used to nexuses for updates and in comparison Samsung are slower. (obviously, nexuses are the reference device)
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Ironically the US Galaxy Nexus gets jellybean first.
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US galaxy nexuses and my Irish one.....
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To be fair, sources come out one day and we should recieve it OTA the next but all these companies are too damn busy tripping over each other and themselves to actually do anything for anyone about anything.
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nodstuff said:
US galaxy nexuses and my Irish one.....
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Sorry my friend, play store nexuses get it before European GSM ones I have heard
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Sorry my friend, play store nexuses get it before European GSM ones I have heard
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Well I have it now! "Preview" version or not, it looks pretty damn finished to me!
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Another week...

Goes by and no sign of JB for the 8013. Sadness. I really thought it would be out this week. Anybody have any whispering about the wifi 8013 updates ?

Here are some things that are odd compared to Samsung's normal s/w roll outs:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
2) The German ROM is 3G. Historically Wi-Fi devices have received intermediate updates before 3G devices. For the OG G-Tab ICS update one region got a Wi-Fi update (UK) and another region got a 3G update (Italy). They were both released on the same day and were for Samsung's unlocked devices sold direct. The week after that other regions began receiving both updates.
3) There are no carrier specific apps or branding on the German ROM. And the lock screen short cuts were disabled but still packaged in the ROM as people that changed their CSC got them back. Both items are unusual.
4) Samsung released another 4.0.4 update for Argentina after the German JB ROM was outed. That doesn't make a lot of sense with JB so seemingly close to done. I've been using the German ROM since the day it became available and it's rock solid so it wouldn't seem as if there's a lot left for Samsung to do on it.
So it could all mean something or all mean nothing. But I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.

I am not expecting JB until at least around Christmas (it could even be later)

I'm not even expecting a JB update.
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JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.

Sparksltd said:
JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.
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Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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JB is just another rom but it does bring host of updates which enhances the tablet by many folds I am also still on ICS and waiting for official JB release but day by day tilting towards rooting my tab and installing JB rom

BarryH_GEG said:
Here are some things that are odd compared to Samsung's normal s/w roll outs:
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I can only speculate on the oddity based on my personal experience, which I will relate by way of a story.
Back in the mid to late '90s I worked for U.S. Robotics. One day they called a meeting to introduce the features of the latest software being made available for the Courier modems, the only flashable modems we had at the time. The engineer that was talking, very frankly, explained that we were adding the stupidest feature ever to our modems and that it was going to cause a ton of support calls. He went on to explain that the reason they added the feature was that a saleman had promised it to big client and that the direct sale of 20,000 modems hinged on the feature being added. Considering we made well over $100 on a direct sale, that was over $2 million profit and about $12 million in total sales.
So it's entirely possible that Samsung was looking at a big order from someone in Germany that was contingent on JB being released on the Note 10.1. Money will make companies do a lot of strange things.

Just flash the 8000 JB and change the governor to onDemand. Then you have a flawless Jelly Bean Rom until the 8013/8010 firmware is released.

My husband has an Asus Transformer Infinity tablet and he got JB last weekend. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone and got JB in Sept. He has a GIII phone and has no JB. I would expect he will get his JB update for his phone before I get an update for my Note 10.1. But then again, we are on Verizon. Maybe neither of us will get the update. I really don't understand Samsung not giving US Note owners JB. I know about how awful Verizon is about updating the phones.

Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:

b1ackplague said:
Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.

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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.
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You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.

Looking at samsungs firmware update history at sammobile, the updates for all the other devices / regions comes around a month after the first update. So itll be december for us sadly :s

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Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:
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:laugh: I was thinking exactly the same, sometimes on monday...
But somewhat tells me that the actual JB was not completely finished, not buggy but usability flaws:
Annotate pictures, ok you can draw on the back of a picture, fine but to view it you get in that (paint)-editor again
did that make sense ? or did I overview something? Would be nicer with an airview support.:fingers-crossed:
Also in S-note when pressing the button on the s-pen while hovering, nice that it changes the pre-selectable writing tools (pen,pencil,brush,eraser) and cycle only through them. Edit: (works now)
My language is set to German, but got some French/ English texts...
I did 3 screenshots but didn't find out how I've done it! I know about the sw-button and the s-pen+button+press, but I was just looking through menues. Strange...
But otherwise, I like it. SApp- and Play-store works, also I didn't lose any data on the InternalSD (did move Tita. & Nand. backup to the extSD and computer)

BarryH_GEG said:
You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.
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Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc? I stopped reading the WIP thread because i saw too many people flashing etc. Repeatedly. Ive had quite a bit of Samsungs so im familiar with odin - whats the quicksst route without losing data? Will Samsung apps work on the 8013 even though it wont find a sim card ?

sledgie said:
Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc?
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Yes. I haven't been keeping up with the WIP thread but I'd guess their trying to figure out how to disable the 3G features in the ROM so it doesn't do strange things. I have a N8000 so anything I've shared is from using the ROM on it; not a Wi-Fi Note. So if your fellow Wi-Fi brethren have flashed the 3G ROM and the only issue has been wireless-related flakiness you should be fine. I'd read up some more on their experiences and make sure it's something you're comfortable with. I like JB but I was perfectly content with 4.0.4 which was very solid.

BarryH_GEG said:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
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This hasn't been the case for some time - for example, Ice Cream Sandwich came to unlocked Galaxy S2 last, after all the carrier-branded ones got it.
The rationale is that Samsung needs to tailor (test and fix bugs) each carrier branded device to that particular carrier's network, but the unlocked one needs to be tailored to *all* carrier networks and so needs to benefit from the sum of all the bug fixing/testing from all the other carriers. I don't necessarily agree, it's just what was said at the time.
I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.
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It could mean that they discovered bugs that needed to be fixed. They may be treating this german release a little like a public beta.

Here's another possible reason we're not hearing anything. The SGS3 JB roll-out doesn't appear to be going very well. This is from the SGS3 forum. If Samsung's rolling back SGS3 updates that's not a good thing for us as I'm sure the SGS3 is a higher-priority product based on sales alone and may be diverting attention from other devices. Purely speculation of course.
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I GOT THIS MESSAGE FROM SAMSUNG MOBILE INDIA
Dear Mr. Mahendrakar,
We acknowledge the receipt of your mail. We value the importance of information asked and we are here to assist you.
In response to your email regarding updation of the Samsung handset model GT-I9300 in android jelly bean version 4.1, we would like to inform you that android jelly bean version 4.1 was released earlier by Samsung India for Galaxy S III but now it rolled back due to some technical reasons, so we request you to kindly co-operate with us till the future release of Android v4.1 (Jelly bean) for mentioned handset and stay with us till then.
Any update in this regard will be conveyed to you by various means of communication.
We also thank you for your valuable feedback. We are forwarding your feedback to Product Innovation Team. Presently they are looking on same matter.
Regards,
Technical Support Team
Samsung India Electronics Pvt. Ltd.
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Official kitkat for galaxy s iii mini !!!!

With Android 4.4 KitKat, Google is aiming to bring a better Android experience to the masses through features such as reduced memory consumption on low-memory (512MB) and low-cost devices, and that has had a lot of people hoping manufacturers will bring the new version of Android to some of their mid-range devices that may not otherwise be eligible for another update. Well, according to an image we received in our inbox, Samsung is thinking of doing just that, and is considering the update for some of its mid-range and low-end devices.
In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S III Mini.Yo can see in below image :
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if you read the article or even the image it says its under investigation so its not decided!

Gabhain said:
if you read the article or even the image it says its under investigation so its not decided!
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hmm....I think you need to read the whole article,click on the source.

Really nice news - when it's true. I believe WHEN we get 4.4 it will come after Xmas, maybe january. They must sale their flagship S4. Anyway - the ACE 2 is also in the list, that's great, my wife has it and i really like to play around with this little thing. I mean the phone

SONiX-GERMANY said:
Really nice news - when it's true. I believe WHEN we get 4.4 it will come after Xmas, maybe january. They must sale their flagship S4. Anyway - the ACE 2 is also in the list, that's great, my wife has it and i really like to play around with this little thing. I mean the phone
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i dont think we will get the kitkat and even if by some miracle we do get it, who needs it while we have maclaw, he even fixed the camera

android.zealot.fervor said:
hmm....I think you need to read the whole article,click on the source.
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i have read the source friend, it specifically says "However, just because Samsung is considering the update doesn’t mean the updates will actually come" so when you say "In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S III Mini" its misleading as they havent decided. ST-Ericsson are no more so the chances of an update is slim to none unfortunately.

Samsung first have to release new kernel for our device before kitkat it means we must get 4.2 maybe its true about ram but what about processor
because of heavy bloatware i think samsung have to redesign a touchwiz for our device its s4 mini which will get 4.4 most likely but sometimes miracle can happen . I hope we get new kernel for maclaw

They know it's possible. I mean, look at the Android development forums. There are already a few stable KitKat ROMs. They don't have an excuse to not release it.
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If the KitKat bring the Samsung Secured System KNOX like the 4.3 I want not chocolates, I prefer the 4.1.2 . What brothel on Note 3 and on S4. :crying:

artungonul said:
i dont think we will get the kitkat and even if by some miracle we do get it, who needs it while we have maclaw, he even fixed the camera
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Indeed. And i think it is best if we support him more.
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Rumor: Android 4.4 KitKat update for Galaxy S4 Mini, S3 Mini, Ace 3 and other mid-rangers “under investigation” http://drippler.com/updates/share/r...y-s4-mini-s3-mini-ace-3-and-other-mid-rangers Via j.mp/drippler_app
Read that
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Isus <3 said:
Rumor: Android 4.4 KitKat update for Galaxy S4 Mini, S3 Mini, Ace 3 and other mid-rangers “under investigation” http://drippler.com/updates/share/r...y-s4-mini-s3-mini-ace-3-and-other-mid-rangers Via j.mp/drippler_app
Read that
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Page 1 already has posts like that.

Even if we already have Maclaw's version, i'd like this to be official, a lot of people have s3 minis now and it's not fair that the s4 may get an update but the s3 mini dont

abnerangel96 said:
Even if we already have Maclaw's version, i'd like this to be official, a lot of people have s3 minis now and it's not fair that the s4 may get an update but the s3 mini dont
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True. But for Maclaw's works, i think it's "better than nothing at all". CMIIW

deepseeker said:
True. But for Maclaw's works, i think it's "better than nothing at all". CMIIW
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Have to agree, lets hope samsung decide to release an update and make average users happy, i think ill stay with CM by Maclaw, its great
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abnerangel96 said:
i think ill stay with CM by Maclaw, its great
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It is. I just flashed his CM 11 4.4 fully working version. No major complain until now.
Just a tiny issue that the settings option for gallery is not working. But i think it is not a problem thinking all Maclaw's hard work.
Salute
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don't you underestimate an official release... 99.9% of smartphones don't even know the word root but many care about updates and the s3 mini is one of the top 10 selling devices around the globe and also used to cost 400 euro. so they have to release it. otherwise the'll lose customers. ste-ericsson not giving drivers is an excuse, maclaw with some others is a single developer that has booted almost fully working kit kat for s3 mini, Of course samsung can release a stable kitkat... and in my s3 mini capacitive buttons don't work when i flash a custom rom so i really need the official kitkat...

I installed last night and everything looks good. Hats of to MacLaw.
Just 1 thing. I have i8190N and have lost NFC now. Would be nice to see a ROM for the N variant.
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Still Good if...
I've been following Maclaw's work for months now, using his work as a "final" ROM for my device. However, what some users state here is a very valid idea, which I support. Is cool and all that we have Maclaw, Oliver and all of'em (without the drama, please save that for TV Soap Operas), but many many people out there would like to have the "Real Deal", be it for the sake of convenience -we sure enjoy testing every new update of our ROMs- but other people want an experience that "just works"- or because they prefer to have an officially backed up software. And let's face it, Samsung is the manufacturer of this phone and no one but the manufacturer would know better how it works and how to upgrade it. You custom developers are awesome, no doubt, but the manufacturer will always be a little above in the matter of knowing the device and undestanding it.
So, I really doubt Samsung will, after all this time, update our S3 mini, but I also think it would be awesome if they did so and I would totally use their update if they manage to improve the weak points of the last official one.

The question remains... did anyone get a legitimate version of KitKat?
If so, what are the chances of the G730A Model getting it, and of said thing is done, will it make it easier for us to root the G730A?
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