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Damnit... now I'm tempted to leave T-mobile. Might be selling a second N1 soon, lol. Can Sprint customers get OTA updates yet?
Thank god for the N1 not being tied to a carrier... In the past you might not have gone with a carrier better for your situation because they didn't have a great phone. I didn't go with Sprint since the "best" phone they had for me was a outdated version of the PalmPre but now the N1 closes all the gaps between carriers and allows anyone to have an amazing phone on any carrier.
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Thank god for the N1 not being tied to a carrier... In the past you might not have gone with a carrier better for your situation because they didn't have a great phone. I didn't go with Sprint since the "best" phone they had for me was a outdated version of the PalmPre but now the N1 closes all the gaps between carriers and allows anyone to have an amazing phone on any carrier.
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Likewise... the only reason I decided to stay with T-mo was because of the N1, and I didn't want to pay $35 more a month to switch to VZW. Now with it coming out on Sprint, it could mean I'd have incentive to switch even with the T-mo ETF.
This gets me excited...Now when will it be released is the question...?...And will this phone gain popularity like the iPhone..?
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This gets me excited...Now when will it be released is the question...?...And will this phone gain popularity like the iPhone..?
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if they sold it in stores yes.
lightforce said:
if they sold it in stores yes.
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Yeah, that's not happening lol.
Still, good for Sprint customers.
lightforce said:
if they sold it in stores yes.
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That is true...Maybe a Google store will emerge somewhere...I am most likely going to get the N1 if it gets released soon..
I believe the Verizon and sprint launch will happen at the same time.
Personally, from my experience, Sprint has the worst customer service out there.
I'm happy w/ my tmobile nexus 1.
N1 available for any carrier so that all can be with coverage/pricing plan they prefer? Brilliant.
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Personally, from my experience, Sprint has the worst customer service out there.
I'm happy w/ my tmobile nexus 1.
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things have changed in recent months/past couple years. I joined the sprint scene in august with the palm pre, and then returned it when the hero was announced and waited the 1.5 months till i could buy it.
ive had my own instances of being involved with customer service, and 9/10 times I really feel like sprint CSR's went the distance at least to make me feel valued. there is one instance where they didnt, but thats about contract dates, and all 4 major carriers are sticklers about that.
do some research on it for the latest reviews on sprint customer support.
back on topic, true story, this user will definitely be one of the first customers for the nexus one on sprint.
This is very exciting news. Development for the Nexus will be strong for a long time to come.
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I believe the Verizon and sprint launch will happen at the same time.
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I hope it happens at the same too...The N1 has the potential to be a great phone...
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Personally, from my experience, Sprint has the worst customer service out there.
I'm happy w/ my tmobile nexus 1.
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As someone else already said... times have changed at Sprint. AT&T has the worse customer service, followed by VZW... T-mo and Sprint are the best when it comes to customer service. I guess the bottom two have to have something go for them, lol...
Sprint Nirvana??!?!?
Finally!!!
Now, N1 or Supersonic?
Fast food gots nothin on SPRINT!!!
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Finally!!!
Now, N1 or Supersonic?
Fast food gots nothin on SPRINT!!!
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Wait to see if the Supersonic will be crippled like the Backflip... Hopefully it will be fully Google.
Wonderful news. I'll be the first to ditch my Sprint Hero for the Nexus One. I am beyond tired of HTC and their antics. A Google supported phone makes me much happier.
Bring it on.
Will they finally stop being dickfaces and allow someone to activate on a Sero plan ?
Thats the only way Id recommend Sprint to anyone. I admit there cellular service is fantastic !...but there customer care left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Wait to see if the Supersonic will be crippled like the Backflip... Hopefully it will be fully Google.
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lol sprint and htc wont do that
and im definitely going for the supersonic..4.3 inches my goodness
i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all?
Why is this posted in the HERO forum?
That sounds consistent with how the N1 has been sold so far, as far as I know.
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i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
anyways im hearing the phone itself won't be in sprint stores and you cannot get it serviced at sprint either. you have to buy it online from google and send it in for repairs, is this true? if soo i smell a BIG fail coming. will the phone even be branded with a sprint logo at all?
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Well that has been their trend so far with the other carriers, so it's very possible, but it's kind of to early to tell art this point
That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
fixxxer2008 said:
i want to upgrade to the N1 when it hits sprint, i hope soon?
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
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Well, the problem is that since you bought it from google.com, when you have problems and call Sprint for help, they can say "You have to call Google."
Of course, Google doesn't seem to have any publicly available phone numbers for you to call, so you're stuck with their worthless message boards...
Plus, if the actual hardware craps out, you can't walk into a Sprint store and get it replaced the same afternoon, you have to deal with shipping in two directions and be without a phone for a week....
Or at least that seems to be the major complaint about the N1 currently on the market....
just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
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just wait for the evo 4g, its got better specs then the nexus and a bigger screen,
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i have no 4g here in michigan plus i don't like the design.
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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what does that mean? if it's about before please give it a rest already!
id like to keep this thread clean and on topic. i put this here because alot of users will be leaving the hero when the n1 & evo come out.
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That would be great if you got an N1.
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I LOLed in real life
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That's Google's new method--buy from google.com/phone and don't worry about anything else.
Who cares if it's Sprint branded? As long as it's considered an upgrade you'll get your nice price.
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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No, just wait even more, pre 2011, dual core Snapdragon 1.5ghz phones running android will be out. If you buy the Evo, you'll wish you had waited lol
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if you pay 69.99+ with sprint, you can get the full upgrade every 365 days so by the time that all happens, you can get a DC snapdragon 1.5 right around the corner and still have an EVO
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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Sprint customers whine too damn much anyway.
agentofboom said:
That would be great if you got an N1.
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Yes I would have to agree
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i just think the idea of going without a phone while it's in for repairs is stupid when there are local sprint repair centers. i don't see this going over well with sprint customers if they follow past suit.
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Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.
Many years ago, you had to buy your land line telephones from your land line provider. They were sold and supported there, and they had very high costs. Then over time, that changed and people bought phones that weren't branded by their carrier. (or supported by them either, omg!). I'm sure it was a very scary time, but think about how ridiculous that sounds today.
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yeah, yeah...well ill make sure when i get it i come back to bug you some more.
Fix, i have no idea what will happen when the N1 launches? Im torn between the N1 and the EVO.
My god people, let the past go. he has the right to start a thread. Just like children around here sometimes. It's getting old already.
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Hang on to your hero then. I still have every phone in my sig as a backup. I'm glad that google is doing SOMETHING to shake up the status quo a bit. Remember if you buy phones that are sold and supported by sprint, you'll have to wait on sprint for things like android 2.1, just like we're doing now. If google is able to get sprint (and other us carriers) to budge from their traditional phone-tied-to-carrier model, it'll just put us one step closer to breaking the wireless phone oligopoly.
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Ah, I am just flicking ya ****!
I am not real impressed with the way they have handled their phone either!
I do agree with this above, things like this tend to change the way company's think!
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Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
Doesn't matter to you or me. We've got one of 2 current gen standard bearers (other being the Milestone/Droid) and ours doesn't have to go through a carrier to get OS updates.
All the apps will be built with us in mind, so fewer bugs and possibly more apps. We're basically Android Dev Phone 3. Nothing wrong with that at all. This is a loss for Sprint customers only, and the size of that loss is debatable.
Sucks to be a sprint customer. Will the EVO be better than the Nexus One? On paper, yes.. however that has yet to be seen. Most (or some) of us thought the N1 would be overshadowed by the Droid Incredible but that wasn't the case at all.
EVO vs Nexus One .... coming soon.
I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Good question. If it was Google, I think they bailed just before the vindication of the N1. I am reading about perceived "issues" with the Incredible and Desire similar to those on the N1 regarding 3g coverage. The N1 is a damn fine phone, and Verizon and Sprint users are missing out on an absolute gem with a better forward path than anything else in the hardware queue.
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I wonder who's decision it was to cancel these phones...
Verizon, Sprint, Google, or HTC?
Who's to blame here?
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Its DEF Sprint's and Verizon's fault the phone was cancelled. Google could easily put in a different radio (like they did with the ATT version) but Sprint and Verizon can just refuse to activate the phone on their network like they did. ATT and TMo didn't have a choice since they use sim cards. Sprint and Verizon are evil companies that force their customers into more expensive options instead of giving them choices
Same reason the verizon deal fell through. both spring and verizon are very controlled networks. Googles wants to essentially turn the cell phone system into an europe-esque system where phones and service are seperate entities.
Each nexus phone has to be programs for verizon or sprint. They probably couldn't come to terms with an appropriate price and management. They'd have to have the phones programmed before being shipped out, one more step and one more cost.
Then you have the headaches of pushing out updates. We saw how long it took Droid to get the 2.1 update. If you want to update a sprint android phone you have to take it to a retail store to do it!
thats a damn shame
sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
down with verizon and sprint they suck. Everytime I saw a sprint phone on that TV show, heroes I thought.... ugh, fags
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales.
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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If Sprint or Verizon doesn't want to subsidize the N1 because they want to push their own phone that's fine. But blocking an unlocked N1 from using their network just for the sake of being ****'s and forcing people into more expensive options? That's just bullsh*t and shouldn't be tolerated
Just because customers getting screwed happens in American business doesn't make it acceptable...
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well, i don't want to get too far off topic, because this is all just speculation. however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
btw, i love my nexus one. i can see why they would worry, lol. incredible is a nice phone, but the chick i'm hanging out with just got one, i played with it, and i prefer my N1, tbh
have to get a sprint phone for clinics though this june, so hoping the evo gets out early june phone n1, but evo for hanging out with and playing
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Post a pic of the chick!
timothydonohue said:
neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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The Samsung Galaxy S would like to have a word with you.
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Jesus, I already have my T-Mobile version and it doesn't hurt me but I really don't like Sprint (and Verizon) giving hopeful N1 customers the finger.
Its not that they just said no to subsidizing the phone... its that since they work off a CDMA network (non sim cards) they will just block the phone entirely off their network. Even if you had a Sprint compatible version and called them up to activate it they would tell you no. Greedy SOB's.
I wanted the N1 to become a smartphone standard across all 4 carriers so that Google would continue to produce it for a LONG time and come out with subsequent versions over time. But with just two carriers supporting it I am scared Google might abandon it long term due to low sales.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/sprint-cans-nexus-one-in-favor-of-evo-4g/
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I partially agree with the OP here, it would be nice to have this across all carriers, but in all honesty, CDMA is just not something that is well supported outside the US. Having GSM is key since it is more the worldwide standard. I don't think not having CDMA is going to really hurt things for this device.
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sprint cancelled (probably, i'm just guessing here) for the same reason verizon did. they have a top notch android phone coming out, for which they reap the benefits of sales. why would they chop that by catering to a phone that would only compete with their own sales, but they don't get sales money for? neither att nor tmo have a better phone right now.
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That makes no sense at all. Even if they didn't subsidize the phone, like AT&T, someone could buy the N1 100% with their own money, and then throw their money at Verizon/Sprint for the voice and data plans. All I could see is a net PLUS of subscribers on their networks. Now if someone reallly wants an N1, they'd be thinking T-Mobile / AT&T; a net LOSS of subscribers for Verizon/Sprint.
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however, now htc doesn't have to worry about manufacturing a cdma version at all, so it saves everyone a lot of hassle
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Except HTC probably already had the CDMA N1, or was FAR into the development of it. It saves hassle for everyone except HTC, who wasted a lot of time and effort.
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The Samsung Galaxy S would like to have a word with you.
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A camera with no flash. 'nuff said.
Verizon and Sprint have a much much more closed network than Att or T-mobile. They wan't entire control of what goes on the network.
I don't think anyone would care because sprint customers would probably be waiting for EVO 4g..
personally, i really liked sprint. i had a heck of a plan with them, i got a lot of free upgrades without contract, and i always had a signal, no matter where i went. i did sometimes have to roam, but i had free roaming, so no big whoop.
i only switched over to tmo for the N1
I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.
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I just talked with a verizon rep in their live chat, they told me that there will be an announcement the 31st about when the phone can be ordered.
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Probably the same rep that said it was being released last Saturday, in February, and doesn't know what an N6 is but would be happy to help you purchase a Droid Turbo.
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lol. just spoke with "jerry" via live chat. got same thing i've been getting since initial release:
At this time, we have not been provided information regarding the release of the Nexus 6.
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I called and talked to a rep last week. He had no information either. I've been (im)patiently waiting since the day Google announced the phone. I was only a couple of days away from being able to upgrade, and had my mind set on a Note 4. I've been getting more frustrated every day, as one of my co-workers went and looked at the N6 at the freaking US Cellular store. US Cellular! They have it before Verizon... I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.
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I'm concerned that Verizon is taking all of this time to lock the phone as tight as the Note 4, which is still un-rooted on VZW. I live in a small rural area where our ONLY coverage is VZW and USC.
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Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.
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Thank Samsung for that. I don't know why anyone thought differently given the Note 3 bounty is *still* outstanding. And with Android L's change wrt kernel and root...odds are it will never be rooted.
Vote with your wallet people. Don't give Samsung a dime for their Knox crapware.
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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL
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Oh, I agree somewhat. Knox blows. Samsung Touchwiz is my least favorite. BUT, the Note 4 is rooted already for the other carriers in the USA, but even (last I checked) over $11000 worth of bounty for root access on the VZW version hasn't had any success. If that was because of Samsung, the Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T versions wouldn't already have root access. The Note 4 hardware is amazing, we just need the ability to put different software on it. I hate Verizon... I may switch to US Cellular someday. They historically haven't had flagship phones available until the last year or two. But, there still isn't much in the way of Dev support here for their phones. What good is a monster phone if we can't hack and crack a bit? LOL
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Half the problem with dev support is the insistence that every USA carrier have a unique SKU and mutually incompatible firmware. Which leads to community dev fragmentation to the max. Which is squarely on the manufacturer to blame. Knox and the locked bootloaders are also on the manufacturer. With Samsung's mobile division bleeding oodles and gobs of money this year, maybe Samsung will mend their ways.
Samsung's problem is that they went from making 2-3 high quality handsets under one brand (Galaxy)....to making dozens of handsets each with 5+ different unique carrier/region-specific SKUs.
An announcement on the 31st on when Nexus 6? What that it can be pre ordered in March or something and maybe 1,000 available
There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.
Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.
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There are two golden rules you should keep in mind when speaking to ANY type of VZW rep:
1 - they have absolutely no information on the phone, its release or anything else related to it - plain and simple.
2 - they have been instructed to try to keep you on VZW, so anything of a delaying comment that will keep you hanging on while the first rule is in effect works for them, not you.
The phone only has two SKU's - We're going to find that VZ will allow it on the network (because they have to) and they won't sell it.
I said it first, and time will bear it out. I hope I'm incorrect. the only thing that will indicate it is here on VZ is a press release or seeing it on the website by magic, period. Anything else is just pure speculation and wishing.
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It is extremely unlikely at this point that Verizon will carry this phone in stores. That has been the speculation from the very beginning. Big Red will allow it on its network, but will never sell the device.
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Well, heres to pure speculation and wishing...:highfive:
But forreal. You suck vzw.
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+ 1000000000
I just talked to my inside business rep and she just found out that it is not being released until February. Pretty pissed!
Winter is coming...
Be ready cuz its coming... The Motorola Droid Turbo 6! It will be full of bloat and skinned in the most obnoxious Motorola overlay. I'm sure it will have all the same specs with maybe a faster processor. It will have 5 different Verizon logos plastered all over it. Of course the bootloader will be locked and we will never see root!... God I love Verizon!
I just had a meditation session with my spiritual king. He let it be known to me that Verizon will release the Nexus 6 in... and then the session ended. I'll try again tomorrow.
The number of people posting their opinions as fact in this thread is hilarious. Nobody knows anything, period.
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Nexus 6 on Verizon
My Motorola bought Nexus 6 works great on Verizon, and with Moto Credit im paying just like you would if you used the "edge" program from VZW... Oh and i didnt have to give Verizon any cut of the sales which is just icing on the cake!
Why wait? Buy one from another carrier, swap Sims.
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We probably wont see any Nexus 6 in stores at all. Nobody has the Nexus 6 locally on any carrier cause its sold out.(I've checked, XMas present.) If Verizon wanted the sales they would have already done it.
When i went into Verizon to get a nano sim for my N6 they didn't even know wtf it is. They're like oh that's not going to work on our network... I had to walk them through what to do to get my device working.
So after doing some research about the whole advanced calling feature I came to a theory that might calm the heat towards them.
Advanced calling 1.0 isn't just something they have to do to the network. VoLTE is already possible in any area Verizon covers with LTE. Unlike other service providers who have been doing this for a while, Verizon is fresh at it. And I believe that the way they enable this function on the Sim is purely software. Not built into the Sim. That's why there are so little phones out there that have it enabled. Because Verizon waits for a software update from the phones manufacturer and implements it into the new software.
So, my theory is that, because the Nexus will be the first phone that Verizon will be selling with lollipop, they will have to work with Google to implement that software into the 5.1 release that should be coming out in February which is why they are planning to release the phone in that time.
Another reason this has to go that way is because its also one of the very few phones that Verizon will be selling that has only one radio and therefore will not have data during a phone call which is one of their biggest selling points and the original reason why I choose them over anyone else 5 years ago.
I think that Verizon just wants this phone to have happy customers and not have a terrible experience like they did with the GNex
Thoughts?
Highly doubt it buddy. The tl;dr is if you want a N6 on VZ you'll probably have to go pony up $650-$699 and get it off GPS or Motorola. Verizon has always been about control,delivering to the user, the experience that they see fit for you to have. That's why they lock all their phones down and instill it with bloatware garbage. Before the FCC mandate I'm pretty sure Verizon blocked all sorts of compatible devices that would work on the network. The only reason why we can even use the N6 on Verizon is because the FCC is forcing them to. I'm sure you read up on the whole 700mhz C block spectrum debacle.
One of two things will probably happen in regards to Verizon selling the Nexus 6. If they are offering it later it will probably come after the newest Droid and Note 4 has had their runs. I highly doubt it has anything to with advanced called as that is just an application and you can make VOLTE calls without it. VOLTE is very limited at this time and will only occur when you call another person with the listed devices. True there could be some propriety garbage that they need to install on the unit to use VOLTE and if that's the case we're back to the Galaxy "Nexus" era. At this point do you really want to get a Nexus that has the VZW tramp stamp? Do you really want to rely on Verizon for certain updates?
As for the second scenario which I feel is more likely to occur. I feel that Verizon will just pass the Nexus 6 as only a small % of people know what it is and want it. Majority of users don't know the differences between devices and manufacturer skins etc. Now if its the contract price you want, nothing else can be said or done about that. But you can always go to Motorola and get financing on the device. Good luck.
They already sell the moto x which is on lollipop so there goes that theory. Next?
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mrgoodpaul said:
Another reason this has to go that way is because its also one of the very few phones that Verizon will be selling that has only one radio and therefore will not have data during a phone call which is one of their biggest selling points and the original reason why I choose them over anyone else 5 years ago.
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5 years ago you could not do voice/data at same time on Verizon...on most phones you still couldnt 3 years ago...that was a strong selling point and advertised feature that ATT advertised back then...
I don't think you guys are reading the whole thing.
akellar said:
They already sell the moto x which is on lollipop so there goes that theory. Next?
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Motorola had already implemented it in their software on kk. This is the first nexus device in a while
mrgoodpaul said:
Motorola had already implemented it in their software on kk. This is the first nexus device in a while
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The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
akellar said:
The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
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Oh, well then your debunking has been debunked. The droid turbo has it but its still on 4.4.4 so I rest my case. They still have to find a way to natively implement it into lollipop.
mrgoodpaul said:
So, my theory is that, because the Nexus will be the first phone that Verizon will be selling with lollipop, they will have to work with Google to implement that software into the 5.1 release that should be coming out in February which is why they are planning to release the phone in that time.
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wait... Google announced the 5.1 release? oh that's right, they didn't. all made up by a bunch of "click-bait" hack bloggers looking for increased ad revenue.
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Oh, well then your debunking has been debunked. The droid turbo has it but its still on 4.4.4 so I rest my case. They still have to find a way to natively implement it into lollipop.
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You don't even know what your own argument is. You stated they were holding off releasing it until it had VoLTE/advanced calling. So you're saying they picked just this one device to delay for this reason but were fine releasing a bunch of others without the feature? Yeah that makes total sense.
akellar said:
The Moto X still doesn't have advanced calling or voice/data at same time. No idea what you're talking about.
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akellar said:
You don't even know what your own argument is. You stated they were holding off releasing it until it had VoLTE/advanced calling. So you're saying they picked just this one device to delay for this reason but were fine releasing a bunch of others without the feature? Yeah that makes total sense.
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Name one phone that has been released in the past six months that doesn't have the ac 1.0 either on the way or already on there?
My opinion is it has to do with the data issues people on vz have been having with the nexus6. My guess is they ran into problems, and are working on a resolution before officially releasing it.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Note 4 is scheduled to get it soon but all the major android devices not on lollipop have it.
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Name one phone that has been released in the past six months that doesn't have the ac 1.0 either on the way or already on there?
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Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
Keep in mind this is only a theory. I'm not saying I know the answer. I just came up with it and it made sense to me. To each their own though.
akellar said:
Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
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My theory is that they are trying to figure out how to implement it natively into lollipop. Since the moto x is running lollipop then this clearly falls under the same page as the nexus
CraigP17 said:
5 years ago you could not do voice/data at same time on Verizon...on most phones you still couldnt 3 years ago...that was a strong selling point and advertised feature that ATT advertised back then...
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You're right about that. The thing that I'm saying is that new phones such as the moto x and the nexus 6 both only have one radio as opposed to the older phones since the iPhone 4 released almost 4 years ago which can in fact use data and phone at the same time only because of the fact that there are 2 radios in the CDMA version
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wait... Google announced the 5.1 release? oh that's right, they didn't. all made up by a bunch of "click-bait" hack bloggers looking for increased ad revenue.
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While I do see where you're coming from with this, I would like to point out that there are still a lot of known bugs and it makes sense that they would come out with a major update to fix all of those bugs, nexus device wide. Whether its 5.1 or 5.0.3 is not the point. Its the fact that there is an update and it should come soon because googles new flagship device has that buggy software on it and it will hurt profits if not fixed
Ive actually talked to some people who told me that the only reason they didn't get the n6 was because they heard there were a lot of bugs.
akellar said:
Well I already said the Moto X like 4 times but here's the full list from Verizon that supports advanced calling - Note Edge, Droid Turbo, G3, and iPhone 6. I know there are other older devices (G2, Maxx, etc) that also support it. Link directly from VZ below.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling-devices/
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Long list.
My theory is that they want to lock it down, and although they technically could, the user base of this particular model have more of an inclination to tinker than other customers who want a Samsung or HTC.
Maybe Google layath down the hammer and said you can't prevent people from locking boot loader.
In the end I just don't think Verizon cares to own a Nexus
Pretty sure it's to milk every last penny from the Turbo. Also to get as many people to buy other phones out of practical impatience as they can so they have less unlocked bootloaders running on their network. Cause we all know how much they just absolutely LOVE unlocked bootloaders.