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Mobile AP vs. Barnacles

As you know Vibrant finally received the 2.2 update which everyone, including myself, was excited. One thing I was really waiting for was the wifi hotspot even though I was using Barnacles with 2.1 until T-Mo started charging for tethering.
What I want to know is will T-Mo charge me if I use Barnacles as a wifi hotspot tether? If yes, how can they know that I'm using that since it's not and official app. Thanks!

You know I have been using Mobile Ap for 3 months now and I don't pay the $15 tethering fee. they just want you to pay more! even got a text saying tethering was being blocked unless I paid the $15 fee. but they have not blocked it to this day. ether way once you hit 5gb download a month they with throttle your 3g speeds. even if you did pay the $15 for tethering. I am using tethering right now to write this message. at 7gb for the month so far. so don't worry about them blocking you from tethering.

No, it's just using your data, so you may get data throttled if excessive (5gb I believe)
M obileAP is better though for making your phone an ad hoc network.

Are you forcing edge though or have you found a way to get around the throttle?

darkside79 said:
You know I have been using Mobile Ap for 3 months now and I don't pay the $15 tethering fee. they just want you to pay more! even got a text saying tethering was being blocked unless I paid the $15 fee. but they have not blocked it to this day. ether way once you hit 5gb download a month they with throttle your 3g speeds. even if you did pay the $15 for tethering. I am using tethering right now to write this message. at 7gb for the month so far. so don't worry about them blocking you from tethering.
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Whats the work around in order to not pay for the tethering?

use Mobile AP. im using it now lol

Using MobileAP right now.
Never been throttled and have used wayyyyyyyyyyyy over 10 gigs a month (closer to 100).
Simple fix that I cannot verify.
Write protect the /throttle folders after deleting contents.
Use a advanced file manager to toss the commands at it.

Mobile AP and T959UVKA2 (vs T959UVJI6)
I've been a bit hesitant and slow about installing MobileAP, wanting both time to devote in case things go wrong AND a stretch of time when not traveling (same reason).
This weekend I was ready to proceed with installing, but had an upgrade pushed out (and accepted!) that changed the firmware from T959UVJI6 to T959UVKA2.
The original development MobileAP thread now seems to be locked, or at least I cannot post to it anymore, and the original moderator (developer?) seems to have moved on to other things. (Not unreasonably, since he met his needs.)
It doesn't appear that T959UVKA2 is going to be supported. Since this is an upgrade from T959UVJI6, my question is: what are the possibilities if I try to install MobileAP for T959UVJI6?
1) It works
2) It doesn't (I guess I get a "Force Close"? Or something else?)
3) It trashes everything (I'm guessing not)
I guess I need to reread the thread to see how to remove MobileAP if it doesn't work...
Any pointers appreciated...

n2ishun said:
Using MobileAP right now.
Never been throttled and have used wayyyyyyyyyyyy over 10 gigs a month (closer to 100).
Simple fix that I cannot verify.
Write protect the /throttle folders after deleting contents.
Use a advanced file manager to toss the commands at it.
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can you go into details abt this as I am having a hard time believing that you hot almost 100gb a month.
I have exhausted every option to defeat throttling and none have been successful

"Business Reasons" gets you Unlimited Data!

I bought my Atrix on launch day after having left ATT the previous June for Sprint (Evo). Before leaving I had an iPhone 3GS with unlimited data.
I called ATT yesterday to see if a simple phone call could restore my unlimited data plan instead of having to do the iphone 2g sim card trick. Long story short, I now have unlimited data again! Here is the key piece of information that I learned.
If you EVER had unlimited data, call ATT and kindly explain that you have a BUSINESS REASON for unlimited data. It will have to get approved by a manager, but I was specifically told that "business reason" is the key words you need to use to get the switch approved.
FYI: When I left ATT the first time, we had two phones on the account. One of the numbers, my wife's, stayed on the account. So, we technically didn't quit ATT for that year since my wife stayed with ATT. Not sure if thats relevant or not.
Good Luck!
EDIT: My "Business Reasons" were that I am an IT consultant and use my Atrix for remote access to clients. The CSR was very understanding and the manager practically auto-approved the change. I don't know for sure if having had unlimited data before is required or if simply having business needs for more data are enough. Anyone else care to give it a shot?

This was a news article a few weeks ago. AT&T wants to win any customers back.

I was able to get mine back just by asking for a supervisor, no reason needed.

Yea,........that didn't work so well for me. I have been trying to get mine back for months now. I even went as far as giving them the feature code for it. Just blew me off. Talked to two different supervisors.
I called and left a message with the AT&T office lady that called me about when I complained about the HSUPA. I am hoping on Monday, I can talk her into giving me it back. (with a little HSUPA thrown in the mix).

Gr8Danes said:
Yea,........that didn't work so well for me. I have been trying to get mine back for months now. I even went as far as giving them the feature code for it. Just blew me off. Talked to two different supervisors.
I called and left a message with the AT&T office lady that called me about when I complained about the HSUPA. I am hoping on Monday, I can talk her into giving me it back. (with a little HSUPA thrown in the mix).
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You won't get HSUPA, that's a software update on the phone, not on your account or anything to do with the towers near you. Good luck getting it back though!

link12245 said:
You won't get HSUPA, that's a software update on the phone, not on your account or anything to do with the towers near you. Good luck getting it back though!
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Yea, I am aware of that......she is the one that called me when I complained about the Atrix not having it. I figure while I call and ask for an update on when we will be receiving that, maybe I will hit her up for putting the unlimited data back on for me as a good deed for not giving us HSUPA right away.

I can confirm this did not work for me :'( back to 2g trick for me, if only I can find someone to let me borrow.

I really hope this works. Def will try tomorrow cuz I use to have unlimited data for my iPhone but when I switched over to the Attic they forced me to get rid of it! Blower!

Crackdroid said:
I really hope this works. Def will try tomorrow cuz I use to have unlimited data for my iPhone but when I switched over to the Attic they forced me to get rid of it! Blower!
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Autocorrect owned!! Sad when your phone doesn't know its own name. Hope this works will try tomorrow
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Crackdroid said:
I really hope this works. Def will try tomorrow cuz I use to have unlimited data for my iPhone but when I switched over to the Attic they forced me to get rid of it! Blower!
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If you had unlimited data for your iPhone and switched to the Atrix and maybe were told by a rep in an AT&T store that for some reason you couldn't keep it, you were fooled. I'd go back into an AT&T store.... possibly a different one, and inquire about it. I had a whole mess to go through when i activated my Atrix (ordered it with one of my parent's upgrades, so i wouldn't have to pay full price).... and at first it was activated under my mom's number.... so they had to reassign her iPhone to her number, then when they assigned the Atrix to my number, she showed me the overview of the services for my phone number, at which point i noticed that it was no longer under the unlimited plan. She called someone, and mentioned this to them..... and they changed it over on their end. I guess they might have a way of looking up whether or not you actually did have it previously.... but either way, you SHOULD have been able to keep your unlimited plan. I think even when i thought about pre-ordering it online before it's release, it had the unlimited data plan in the list and auto-selected.

elementaldragon said:
If you had unlimited data for your iPhone and switched to the Atrix and maybe were told by a rep in an AT&T store that for some reason you couldn't keep it, you were fooled. I'd go back into an AT&T store.... possibly a different one, and inquire about it. I had a whole mess to go through when i activated my Atrix (ordered it with one of my parent's upgrades, so i wouldn't have to pay full price).... and at first it was activated under my mom's number.... so they had to reassign her iPhone to her number, then when they assigned the Atrix to my number, she showed me the overview of the services for my phone number, at which point i noticed that it was no longer under the unlimited plan. She called someone, and mentioned this to them..... and they changed it over on their end. I guess they might have a way of looking up whether or not you actually did have it previously.... but either way, you SHOULD have been able to keep your unlimited plan. I think even when i thought about pre-ordering it online before it's release, it had the unlimited data plan in the list and auto-selected.
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I thought that was the case. I called AT&T and told them that I use to have unlimited data and told them that I usually go over 2gb before my cycle is up and after talking to several reps, they finally reactivated it! Thanks a lot for this thread because having only 2gb of data a month was really starting to aggravate me...

Spaztazim said:
Autocorrect owned!! Sad when your phone doesn't know its own name. Hope this works will try tomorrow
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HAHAHA! I hate autocorrect on this phone sometimes.... #FAIL

That's why i like Swype. type Atrix in manually.... and it remembers it. TADA!
Not to mention after a few uses, it's easy as hell.... and quite often more accurate than the multitouch keyboard. so used to typing really quick with my ex-iPhone 4 and having auto-correct fix some minor mistakes..... then going to Android's multitouch keyboard which seems to have not much of any autocorrect for most stuff.... found myself using the backspace button rather often.

Crackdroid said:
I thought that was the case. I called AT&T and told them that I use to have unlimited data and told them that I usually go over 2gb before my cycle is up and after talking to several reps, they finally reactivated it! Thanks a lot for this thread because having only 2gb of data a month was really starting to aggravate me...
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what did you do to get this done? can you give us some details?

In his comment on the previous page, he said when he bought his Atrix, he was told he could not keep his unlimited plan, which was a lie. That's it... Plain & simple. Not some workaround... Just fixing a mistake by an ill-informed representative.
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elementaldragon said:
In his comment on the previous page, he said when he bought his Atrix, he was told he could not keep his unlimited plan, which was a lie. That's it... Plain & simple. Not some workaround... Just fixing a mistake by an ill-informed representative.
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Yea what he said lol

Unlimited data plan for Atrix with tethering? Is it possible?
Hi - I just moved from iphone 4 unlimited data to Atrix 4G and was told that, in order to add tethering, I couldn't have unlmited data anymore. Does anybody know if there is a way around this? I wanted to add tethering so i could get rid of my dedicated USB modem (and the $60/month charge) and, hoping to see 4G speeds sooner rather than later on the atrix, an Atrix Hotspot would give me better speeds than the USD modem.
I know you can go unlimited iphone to unlimited Atrix but can you do that and have tethering? Any advice would be appreciated.

Only way to tether and have unlimited is with one of the workarounds. Not exactly sure what they are though. unlimited + tethering from AT&T themselves would be like voluntary network suicide.
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so did anyone else get this to work besides main poster?

i shall take some advice from here as i will soon be getting "the worlds most powerful smartphone". on a 2GB cap. what kind of ****ery is that. but i guess.
i will go a month with the 2 GB cap, then call in enraged that i only have a 2GB cap. lol. see how it goes.

t mobile free mobile hotspot

i dont know if someone already post this but starting jan 25th if you have a 5gb or 10 gb plan you can get free mobile hotspot and mobilelife album plus services heres the article http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...ith-free-mobile-hotspot-from-Jan-25th_id26064

I tether for free lol. On my 2GB data plan :[
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How and what files if any do I need to tether for free.
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vabeachfc3s said:
I tether for free lol. On my 2GB data plan :[
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You can tether for free (after root, remove or freeze tether manage app). and then you can tether for free unlimited (with "4g" speed) without being throttled if you use the APN trick (search for it).

Apn trick does not work
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It does work for me. I am at 200MB unlimited plan and I have used 413MB so far. I have deleted tether manager and tethering does work for me. I have been tethering my phone with my samsung galaxy 10.1 tab. I don't stream at all so I don't use that much data. You would be surprised how much data 'word with friends' uses though.

so does that mean we'll have to call in tmo and request for this new free service? for our rooted phones with tether manager frozen, do we need to unfreeze it or re-install it?

Just use tether as u would if u were rooted. No need to freeze anything.
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I currently have the 5GB Android Preferred Data plan. Short story: it looks like users on this plan is not eligible for free hotspot.
Called t-mo this morning regarding the hotspot promo. First with regular CSR. She was aware of this promo, but said that free hotspot is only available as a bundle with the premium 5GB (or 10GB) data plan. Android Preferred Data Plan subscriber has to "upgrade" to one of the regular bundles.
Called t-mo again now asked for retention. He was NOT aware of this promo. Checked with his supervisor and they do not see any free hotspot feature as an add-on. He said he's terribly sorry but there was nothing he can click to add on. He said that if something became available he will call me back.

freexdanoob said:
I currently have the 5GB Android Preferred Data plan. Short story: it looks like users on this plan is not eligible for free hotspot.
Called t-mo this morning regarding the hotspot promo. First with regular CSR. She was aware of this promo, but said that free hotspot is only available as a bundle with the premium 5GB (or 10GB) data plan. Android Preferred Data Plan subscriber has to "upgrade" to one of the regular bundles.
Called t-mo again now asked for retention. He was NOT aware of this promo. Checked with his supervisor and they do not see any free hotspot feature as an add-on. He said he's terribly sorry but there was nothing he can click to add on. He said that if something became available he will call me back.
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Don't hold your breath on that call back. I would just try again tomorrow.

Or just root and tether it up all u want
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xsteven77x said:
Don't hold your breath on that call back. I would just try again tomorrow.
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lol. I've been on TMo long enough to know to continue breathing while dealing with retentions. but thanks!
(however, there has been a couple of times before, as late as this December that a rep called me back regarding a discount so there are good reps there)
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Or just root and tether it up all u want
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trying not to root yet.
Tried the APN manager trick but didn't work for me either. Deleting the pcweb.t-mobile.com APN does not work for me as it'll just reappear.
I had to use the new SIM that came with the white S2 to enable wifi-calling, and I suspect that the pcweb.t-mobile.com APN is hardcoded on the SIM. And everytime you change the APN, it'll copy the that pcweb APN back to your phone.
If there's anyone who got the APN trick to work with new SIM, please voice your success!

I just did mine over the tmobile chat and i got the promotion added to all my lines NO QUESTIONS ASKED. And i have android preferred plan. It really is hit or miss on who you get. The whole thing took less than five minutes and very painless, i was surpised.

meechieervin said:
i dont know if someone already post this but starting jan 25th if you have a 5gb or 10 gb plan you can get free mobile hotspot and mobilelife album plus services heres the article http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...ith-free-mobile-hotspot-from-Jan-25th_id26064
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Has anyone been able to do this today? I started a chat and they had no idea about it.

xsteven77x said:
I just did mine over the tmobile chat and i got the promotion added to all my lines NO QUESTIONS ASKED. And i have android preferred plan. It really is hit or miss on who you get. The whole thing took less than five minutes and very painless, i was surpised.
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what did you say to the rep? I've tried a few, no budge. Some say I already have it.

I swear they hired a ton of new reps or something

synergeticink said:
I swear they hired a ton of new reps or something
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loyalty (retention) department and regular CSR are definitely different departments and seeing different promotion lists.
I tried it again with loyalty. The rep did not know this promotion either looked it up in "the other department." However, she said that since the Preferred Android Data plan is already a promotional plan, I won't be able to get the hotspot feature unless I switch to the regular 5GB data plan. I respectfully declined.
Grrr. I think I may be getting frustrated enough to want to root my phone!
Has anyone tried the APN trick to allow hotspot, using a new SIM with wifi-calling enabled? (ie. delete the pcweb.t-mobile.com APN)

freexdanoob said:
loyalty (retention) department and regular CSR are definitely different departments and seeing different promotion lists.
I tried it again with loyalty. The rep did not know this promotion either looked it up in "the other department." However, she said that since the Preferred Android Data plan is already a promotional plan, I won't be able to get the hotspot feature unless I switch to the regular 5GB data plan. I respectfully declined.
Grrr. I think I may be getting frustrated enough to want to root my phone!
Has anyone tried the APN trick to allow hotspot, using a new SIM with wifi-calling enabled? (ie. delete the pcweb.t-mobile.com APN)
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i just got off the phone with a regular csr as well, but no luck in getting that feature added for free. i have to switch over to the $30 5gb plan to get that, but nah... since there is one success story on this thread, maybe i'll call again someday and see if i'll get lucky.

xsteven77x said:
I just did mine over the tmobile chat and i got the promotion added to all my lines NO QUESTIONS ASKED. And i have android preferred plan. It really is hit or miss on who you get. The whole thing took less than five minutes and very painless, i was surpised.
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Did you have to upgrade your data plan or did they just give you the devices? I just upgrade my data plan when I bought this phone, not interest in moving from the 5gb to the 10gb.

synergeticink said:
Did you have to upgrade your data plan or did they just give you the devices? I just upgrade my data plan when I bought this phone, not interest in moving from the 5gb to the 10gb.
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If you have the 5GB plan @ $30 they just add it on for free. If you have the loyalty "preferred android web" @ $20 it seems most CSRs won't add it unless you "upgrade" to the $30 plan. However, there seems to be at least one successful situation where the rep added it to the loyalty plan YMMV.
I added it but I upgraded from the $20 "android preferred web" (5GB soft cap) to the $30 plan. I felt the upgrade was worth it, since it seems that T-Mobile is making it more difficult to get around tethering (even rooted) with every new phone they release.
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ATT can detect unauthorized tethering. Forcing customers onto capped tethering plans

I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.

This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.

Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
I just switched to the mobile share 8gb plan, which includes mobile hotspot, and have never gone over 6gb for the whole family ever with my old plan with 4 lines having 3gb and my unlimited costing nearly 400 a month now costs around 300. I don't think its too bad.

440bro said:
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
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would it be frowned upon if you posted said information?

jonrobertd said:
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
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If they cancel your service you have to pay off the remainder of your contract agreement. For some it might not be to bad. But for someone that just renewed it could be costly!

krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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Hotspot shield from the play store really helps in this situation...
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FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.

Da_G said:
110gb this cycle (8 days left)
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Geez. You have no idea how jealous I'm of people who still have Unlimited Data.
Thank you for making AT&T pay for being douche of a carrier. :good:

Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene

Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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Please share your secret with me!!! I hit 5gb's and AT&T throttles me so hard it takes 10 minutes to download a 4mb app from the Play Store.

Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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110 GB?! What are you doing with your phone? Streaming 4K video 24/7?
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Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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I have these phones. Looks like I'll be flashing back to gingerbread! Woo! No more battery drain from experimental jelly bean.
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krushin said:
haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
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T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/switch-carriers-no-early-termination-fee.html

To the Op, are you 100% certain that this is you very FIRST time being contacted by AT&T? I ask ask you because along with myself and several of my former GS2 users we received messages from AT&T telling us that they saw that we were tethering and told us to stop or be forced to a tethering plan.So I chose to stop and not lose my unlimited plan. We all were on unlimited and I'm still on unlimited on my Note 3.

DA_G what APN are you using on your atrix. May worth a try for those of us running SS ROMs and can change APN.
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440bro said:
T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
Only works if you give up your current phone and buy t mobile ones for a monthly charge.
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I must have been a lucky one! BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I was warned about 3 times about tethering with my phone. I too am an original unlimited data plan grandfathered in at $30 Bucks a MONTH! MUHAHAHA! The 1st time it happened it said on my bill "TETHERWARN" $0.00
Kind of scared me a bit but I continued to do it anyway and received 2 more warnings this way. I guess because it was only for a couple MB of data here and there. Some months nothing and other months just a tiny bit because I was scared at that point. Didn't want to lose my unlimited plan. :victory:
Unfortunately I found out we really don't have TRUE unlimited data anyway. After you go over 4.5GB used for the month you will receive a text message saying after 5GB you will be throttled big time!!! I was so SHOCKED by this! I can't believe I'm really only getting 5GB of data when it's supposed to be unlimited. I guess they changed everything after the family share crap started.
Figured I'd share this if anyone still has the grandfathered "Unlimited Data" plan. THEY ARE LIARS!
PS. I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! I can ONLY tether using bluetooth or USB though because the WiFi tether is disabled in settings now, which doesn't really bother me because it is fast enough to browse the web or even play World of Warcraft with the bluetooth tether option. It is actually decently fast with USB tether also. HERE'S THE BEST PART! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted. I'm about to buy it because I haven't received any TETHER WARNS from att since I started using PDA NET! I think it does the scrubbing of PC data from the packets very well. I drive for a living so tethering for me is mandatory on my windows tablet. So if you are about to lose your data plan JUST BE CAREFUL and do your research! There is always a way with computers! Hoped this helps someone...Thanks for reading and sorry this is so LONGGGGGGGG!

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I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted.
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This was what I've been looking for! Thank you.
I also have a grandfathered data plan, and get throttled after ~4.5GB of use. I've received several warnings about tethering but thankfully my family plan wasnt botched - I've just had to stop tethering... Until Now! PDA Net FTW.
Question!
If you tether from one ATT phone to another ATT phone or tablet (but not ATT), can they tell? (without having to use PDA NET)

krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I received and email like that a couple of years ago except they told me to stop or else. Needless to say, I stopped.

That is a good question. I really don't know for certain because I no longer use my nexus 7 anymore since I got my windows surface. I do believe PDA Net has an android version which I would assume does the same thing as my desktop version. But then if you consider it's a mobile device with no PC info to scrub(I think that was your question) it might just look like it's your actual phone using that data. Really is a good question that I cannot answer with certainty. Sorry, I can't help with that one. :what::what::what::what:
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Mobile Hotspot free to Unlimited Data Plans

I just got off the phone with a Verizon representative about adding the hotspot to my unlimited plan. Now yes I'm rooted and already had access to the hotspot, but I'm fixing to go on a trip where I would probably use enough data through it to get noticed. The woman I spoke to asked if I wanted to add a line and use the jetpack or just use the hotspot and let it use my data. Well obviously with a unlimited plan I wanted the latter. I asked two times during the call if this would change my plan and or cost extra and was told no. So I guess I will find out at the end of the month.
Now it was my understanding that the data share plans had the hotspot already but I was unaware of the old unlimited plans having this and Verizon not charging the extra $30. As I said I will find out at the end of this cycle if my plan goes up $30 or not but I though I would put it out there to the others who still have there unlimited plan.

This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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Well they don't have a plan to accommodate my usage. Last month was around 25 gig and so far this cycle I'm at 11 gig. I was ready to pay the $30 so I'll buy have to see what happens. I haven't received a email saying anything has changed so "fingers crossed".

When I upgraded from my Droid X (3G) to a Droid Razr Maxx (4G) the VZW store rep told me that because I have unlimited data, I could add hotspot too, and said it would cost more (don't remember what it was), but it would also be unlimited. I didn't do it, because I didn't need it, and if I did, I could probably root and get it.
I've never had a major need for it, but will be interested to see what happens with this. I seem to remember reading stuff about the FCC ruling that customers should be allowed by the carriers to use their data any way they wish, whether on their phone or tethered (wired or wireless) to other devices as they choose. But there was some strange wording that meant it only applied to people on non-unlimited plans, so Verizon never honored it.
I bought my Moto X outright to keep my unlimited data, and rarely use more than 2-3GB anymore. I used 10-12/mo when I didn't have internet at home for a while watching lots of stuff on Netflix and listening to Pandora a lot.
Keep us posted...

In the past I had the hotspot on my account because where I lived there was no internet but there was cell service then when I was able to get internet I canced it. I would think that it would still show that it had been on my account in the past but who knows. There is a possibility that she didn't know what she was talking about because at one time she said that there wasn't a option for a hotspot in my phone settings. I told here there was and the app was on my phone. Then she saw it. So there are some questions in my head and I will keep a close eye on it and come back with what I find.

My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside. I don't see any way Verizon would allow a user with unlimited data to tether at no extra charge... especially when you consider unlimited data was explicitly disallowed from tethering when then FCC dropped the hammer on their use of band 7.
What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too?
Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device.
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-http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...ns-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
I tether off my unlimited here and there but don't make a habit of it... plus I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.

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My fingers are crossed for you. If that girl was clueless and the change forces you off unlimited there is practically no chance you will get it back unless you know the right someone on the inside.
I tether off my unlimited as well but I rarely go over three gigs of usage so whenever I hear all these 30, 40, 50+ gig users brought up I think I have very little to worry about for the foreseeable future. I've heard any changes to the account will force you onto a tiered plan so I only talk to Verizon when absolutely necessary, and only in a store, on the off chance that just having them look at my account would constitute a change.
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I agree that I am very wary about any potential changes to my account. When I brought my Moto X in to activate it (bought it from Moto directly, off contract), I asked to speak to the manager and made it very clear that I ONLY wanted to activate the phone if I would absolutely NOT lose unlimited data. He chuckled and told me that they get a lot of people who are super paranoid about it, and there are always shady employees who want to upsell on stuff so they will tell you that you can get XYZ new feature for only $5 more per month, but not tell you that making that change will also take you off of unlimited data. I told him that was EXACTLY what I wanted to avoid and he again chuckled and said I wouldn't lose unlimited, then proceeded to upgrade my device, and then exited out of the computer program and pulled up my account a second time to show me it was still in there as unlimited.
My girlfriend used to work at Radioshack and there were people there (including managers) that did those shady "upgrades" all the time just to get more commission. People at authorized phone stores do that stuff too. Never deal with those people.

I have checked my online account twice today and its still showing unlimited. And she said it would not change or make me lose the unlimited. I did let her know that I didn't want to lose that.

I remember when I had an unlimited data plan and got a new cell + new "subscription" that meant that it wasn't unlimited anymore, lol.
Anyway, I forgot all about it and downloaded a few movies during that weekend.
The following monday they blocked all outgoing calls from my phone and directed me to their customer service (I was furious because i didn't know why) and told me that my subscription fee was around 2600usd (one MB was like 3usd at that time when you reached your limit).
I totally **** my pants and told them the story (acted kind of dumb, pretended to be technically handicapped) and they erased the whole amount.:laugh:
I'm still faithful to that carrier

canezila said:
This makes me nervous. I hope you are safe and they don't try any funny business.
I no longer talk to Verizon if possible. They almost had a heart attack last time I was in there. I then realized having over 30GB per month is not normal. So over 59GB this month would be even more crazy.... If that was true... Because I am not really saying that is me..... Just saying....
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You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
Moto X

ghostt021 said:
You can relax sir I use the least 40 gigs per month and Verizon is very well aware of this any **** to do with anything about it other than they think its quite funny
Moto X
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This. I routinely use between 80GB & 200GB a month and no problems as of yet. The last time I was in a Verizon store the guy asked me what the heck I was doing, I told him I watch a lot of Netflix. (Which isn't a lie, my last phone had HDMI out and I would Stream Netflix/GPM&TV/HBOGO/HULU through my phone) What I DIDN'T tell him was that about 20-30 of those gigs were through hotspot to other devices.

Yea that doesn't sound right. Where I work there is no "unlimited hotspot" option at all. If anything you'll probably see the 5 GB hotspot option for $50
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Ok I got my bill the other day and there is no extra charge for the hotspot. So I figured that I would go ahead and update to 4.4.2 and when I tried to turn on the hotspot I got the familiar sign that I needed to contact verizon. But after rerooting and unlocking the wifi tether it worked. So obviously the rep that I talked with just didnt know what she was talking about and figured that it was on my plan or something as she didnt activate the hotspot. So scratch the free hotspot on unlimited plans.

I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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I just updated my two computers at work and have to teather them. I also have an enormous music library because I am an elementary school music teacher and occasional DJ. This month I am at 109+ GB. I need to add my fiancée to my family plan by creating a data plan on her current number (not my unlimited plan) and just worry they might pull something. Maybe I should wait until the 13th when billing cycle resets current usage?
Also, my old phone (the one she will use) is x912 Droid RAZR Maxx. Will putting my old sim card that is used with that phone be able to get switched to her info? Just curious because I would rather hear information on this thread then at the Verizon store. Thanks!
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I think you should be able to add her to your family plan for an extra 10 bucks a month plus the data plan. She will only be able to get a capped plan, but I'm sure you know this already. Even still she should be able to get 2gb for 30 bucks I think. They will probably try and get you to switch to their Share Everything plan.
As far as the Sim card is concerned, just trash it. They will give her a new one for the RAZR and assign it to her account. They're free anyways.
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