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Anyone know if there is any coverage in Tucson yet? I'm passing through here from Mesa and I wanted to put the 4G through its paces..
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As far as I know, there is none in AZ at all. And, after the latest list for new 4G areas, AZ isn't getting any anytime soon.
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I've been doing a little research. From what I can tell, Clearwire has applied for permits, permission or zoning variances in four or five locations around Tucson: by the Tucson Mall, Pima/Alvernon, some place on the south side, and they received permission from Marana schools to build towers at a school in Continental Ranch (a mile from my house!) and near Ina and Thornydale, I think.
Also, there was a job posting for a Clearwire manager position back in December of 09.
Unless Clearwire is just building towers for the heck of it, or they sell some other service, I think it's on its way.
AS329 said:
I've been doing a little research. From what I can tell, Clearwire has applied for permits, permission or zoning variances in four or five locations around Tucson: by the Tucson Mall, Pima/Alvernon, some place on the south side, and they received permission from Marana schools to build towers at a school in Continental Ranch (a mile from my house!) and near Ina and Thornydale, I think.
Also, there was a job posting for a Clearwire manager position back in December of 09.
Unless Clearwire is just building towers for the heck of it, or they sell some other service, I think it's on its way.
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Just out of curiosity, where does one go to find out about such permit applications? I'd like to do some snooping on their progress in Phoenix.
Yedgy said:
Just out of curiosity, where does one go to find out about such permit applications? I'd like to do some snooping on their progress in Phoenix.
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Well, of course, google is your friend. I would try "City of Phoenix" and clearwire, for instance (if I cared about Phoenix )...check the city (for all those suburbs) and county websites and look for the development services or similar department. Many have their permit applications and such online. County Board meeting minutes, city council minutes are good sources as they usually grant zoning variances and permits. I found Clearwire seeking permission from the local school board by reading the minutes of the school board.
I've been an investigator for years, so this is second nature to me...let me know if you have other questions or my response is less than clear.
Hey, you're right! I found this little gem regarding Clearwire in the minutes from a recent public meeting:
Use permit to co-locate a visible wireless communication facility
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Good news: it was approved!
Bad news: it's not near my part of town.
Thanks, inspector! I'll see what else I can dig up.
Found this too if you're down near Chandler - it's from earlier this year...actually, we have an office in Phoenix and I am there frequently...I wouldn't mind you guys getting some 4G, just after Tucson
azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2010/01/22/20100122cr-celltower0123. html (don't have enough posts to link, you'll have to cut and paste, remove the space before html)
Thanks for the link to the article.
I always laugh about the "not in my backyard" outcries every time someone wants to put up a cell tower. I gotta believe that many of those folks are the same ones who are always complaining about poor cell coverage in their area.
If Clearwire wants to put up a high-speed WiMAX tower in my backyard, I'll roll out the red carpet and hire a marching band...
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Thanks for the link to the article.
I always laugh about the "not in my backyard" outcries every time someone wants to put up a cell tower. I gotta believe that many of those folks are the same ones who are always complaining about poor cell coverage in their area.
If Clearwire wants to put up a high-speed WiMAX tower in my backyard, I'll roll out the red carpet and hire a marching band...
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..and i'd be your neighbor complaining that it wasn't in MY backyard
Thought it was weird that my college town, Rolla, Missouri has 4G Wimax coverage.
Any other weird choices for rollout?
No fair.
gx1400 said:
Thought it was weird that my college town, Rolla, Missouri has 4G Wimax coverage.
Any other weird choices for rollout?
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h8 h8 h8 !!!!
Because rolla missouri has a very well known university that is known for technology and sciences amf they probably pushed for it.
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According to multiple Sprint reps I've talked with, "4G will be available in the end of the December, 2010 in the whole US" "Everywhere".
indagroove said:
According to multiple Sprint reps I've talked with, "4G will be available in the end of the December, 2010 in the whole US" "Everywhere".
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As awesome as that would be... it won't happen. There's still plenty of places with just 1x, like where I live.
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jkinnison90 said:
As awesome as that would be... it won't happen. There's still plenty of places with just 1x, like where I live.
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Go to Sprint's site and open a chat with a Sprint rep and see what they tell you and report back please.
indagroove said:
Go to Sprint's site and open a chat with a Sprint rep and see what they tell you and report back please.
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Bro, I respect your opinion and knowledge. I used many of your roms in the diamond days. Where I work, we lease land to some tower companys, three of these are Sprints. The Sprint field techs I have spoke with have no knowledge of any immediate 4g upgrades, and no sign of any upcoming tower work has been present. No underground service alert markings, nada. Our companys own Sprint rep told us back in June, we would have 4g within two months. Nope. I will only believe the 4g hype when I see a man-lift sitting at one of those sites, and Sprint techs working on it. BTW, my local area is home to around a quarter of a million in SoCal.
Im just glad my town of 7000 at least has 3g. Im fine with that.
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Thought it was weird that my college town, Rolla, Missouri has 4G Wimax coverage.
Any other weird choices for rollout?
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Nothing but snitches in rolla! Caution
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shortbus182 said:
Bro, I respect your opinion and knowledge. I used many of your roms in the diamond days. Where I work, we lease land to some tower companys, three of these are Sprints. The Sprint field techs I have spoke with have no knowledge of any immediate 4g upgrades, and no sign of any upcoming tower work has been present. No underground service alert markings, nada. Our companys own Sprint rep told us back in June, we would have 4g within two months. Nope. I will only believe the 4g hype when I see a man-lift sitting at one of those sites, and Sprint techs working on it. BTW, my local area is home to around a quarter of a million in SoCal.
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I'm not saying that it will or won't be everywhere by the end of the year -- I'm just telling you what Sprint is officially telling customers. If I were you, I would go to Sprint.com and ask a rep via chat yourself. That way, if/when it's not "everywhere" by the end of the month, you may have a valid argument for some sort of credit to your account.
indagroove said:
According to multiple Sprint reps I've talked with, "4G will be available in the end of the December, 2010 in the whole US" "Everywhere".
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Yeah not true sorry
check out their coverage of Washington state... I live in Yakima Wa and we had 4g from day one. Also most small towns in Yakima county have coverage I thought it was very strange but never argued with it.
Im from springfield, mo and rolla is closer then st Louis. I might have to make a trip to rolls to test out my 4G.
Saint Joseph, Missouri here. Really hope we get some 4g love soon.
indagroove said:
According to multiple Sprint reps I've talked with, "4G will be available in the end of the December, 2010 in the whole US" "Everywhere".
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That money I owe you ... the check is in the mail
GaryJ51 said:
That money I owe you ... the check is in the mail
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Great, glad you finally put it in writing just like sprint does. That way when you and sprint don't deliver I have legal recourse.
natelw said:
check out their coverage of Washington state... I live in Yakima Wa and we had 4g from day one. Also most small towns in Yakima county have coverage I thought it was very strange but never argued with it.
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This makes me rage so hard. Yakima and Tri-Cities have 4G but they skipped the entire Spokane region and refuse to give out any sort of date to expect coverage.
From time to time, I flip on my 4G in a very small hope that the small city of Rome, Georgia with a population of about 30,000 will get 4G within the next few years. Today, I was a Starbucks having coffee with a friend and talking about 4G and how long we think it will take for Verizon or AT&T to get their 4G here. I've already dismissed Sprint ever getting it here because Sprint just closed their only store in town a month ago. Verizon and AT&T are the main providers here. So, I was telling them that 4G has to be turned on within the settings of the phone and demonstrated how to turn it on. I put the phone down and picked it up a few minutes later after receiving a text and I had to cover my mouth to prevent the very loud "WTF?!?!?!" that came out of my mouth as I noticed the 4G connected symbol in the status bar! What on Earth is 4G doing in this little town? Of course, I got online to see if I could find Rome listed on Sprint or Clearwire. It wasn't on Sprint, but sure enough, it was now listed on Clearwire as having 4G. It isn't listed as the super fast 4G area like Atlanta, but 4G nonetheless. I am getting 6.1 Mbps with one bar at home. I'd like to know when this network went up. And if it will stay. Anyone know where I could find some info? I chatted with Clearwire to see if they could tell me when it was activated, but they couldn't tell me. I'm going to tell everyone about it now. We have 4G before a lot of major cities... I'm super stoked!
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Will this make you finally change your Evo?... check it out and hopefully your area is getting hooked up....
http://tinyurl.com/888mbhx
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I was looking at that last night and thinking, no matter how great the EVO x is my EVO still holds it's own. Since Michigan will be blanketed in LTE by 2014, I am going to wait, Sprint has great plans, but lightsquared drama has to negatively impact their LTE roll out.
And why buy a phone in 2012 when I can't use 4G until a year or 2 years later. I did that with EVO, and assumed a Verizon kind of roll out.
I really hope Sprint stays on track with LTE roll out and they may retain me otherwise VZW with unlimited data might get my business (yes if u try hard enough u can get it)
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Yea, it says they will be ready by 2014, but with no specific rollout dates for my area, Michigan, I will be switching to Verizon in the next few months, once they get a nest gen phone like the One X or something similar. Verizon has had working 4g for over a year in my area now. There's no way I'm waiting another 2 years to get it here, and have dial-up speed 3g in the meantime. I gave Sprint 12 years of my business, and I hate to leave, but in today's world data is everything, and I need that to be able to do my job.
With the announcement one the HTC EVO One for Sprint, I am puzzled as to how they decide what cities to start their rollout of LTE. San Antonio? Baltimore? Kansas City?
No New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago, etc.
OK, so Houston and Dallas. Meh.
With an LTE iPhone possibly coming out later this year, how many iPhonies do they think will hang on waiting while both Verizon and AT&T (yuk) are offering LTE in the biggest markets?
Sure, they're saying just wait, but really, how many people have the discipline? I probably will, but only because returning to AT&T is not an option as far as I'm concerned, and I hear horror stories about big red nickle and dimeing their customers.
What incentive do I have to get the HTC EVO One when there won't be any LTE here in LA, while my old EVO can still use WiMax?
On an unrelated question: does anyone know if LTE phones automatically switch between 3G and LTE? One thing I always hated about WiMax is having to manually turn it on every time I want to use it!
Pretty sure LTE would require manual control just like WiMax.
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leebo said:
OK, so Houston and Dallas. Meh.
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Hey now! Some of use are awful excited that Dallas is on that list!
But seriously. I'm wondering if the Dallas choice was because of the AT&T headquarters and the fact that Sprint phones are getting MURDERED by att speeds. (At least where i'm at)
Nothing against Dallas. Texas is a great country.
I just think Sprint needs to make a big splash about LTE if they want to limit churn. Dan Hesse has done an outstanding job so far, imo. But if I were in charge of Sprint, I would make NY,and LA, among the first cities, just for PR purposes.
Even aliens know to blow up one of those two cities when they first invade Earth!
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Hey now! Some of use are awful excited that Dallas is on that list!
But seriously. I'm wondering if the Dallas choice was because of the AT&T headquarters and the fact that Sprint phones are getting MURDERED by att speeds. (At least where i'm at)
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At&t damn sure will drop a call where I am at if it even goes through but those damn internet speeds are damn lovely.... I hate them for that! LOL
I live in Overland Park. The reason it might be coming to the Kansas City area is because the world headquarters is located in Overland Park, KS? Just a guess lol. (btw, KS has more than tumbleweed in the streets lol)
Am I the only one who thinks the state outlines on this map are messed up?
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Am I the only one who thinks the state outlines on this map are messed up?
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It's the larger states they don't have much coverage in, so they generalize more.
I'm personally going to switch to the new Evo when it comes out. LTE IN JERSEY AND PHILLY YEA! FIRST PICKS.
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It's the larger states they don't have much coverage in, so they generalize more.
I'm personally going to switch to the new Evo when it comes out. LTE IN JERSEY AND PHILLY YEA! FIRST PICKS.
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So maybe you could tell me, does it look like southern indiana is covered?
ronartest2005 said:
So maybe you could tell me, does it look like southern indiana is covered?
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Looks like it to me. Don't know if its first or second round though.
monkeychef said:
Looks like it to me. Don't know if its first or second round though.
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My area is first round starts in may I'm super excited!
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leebo said:
On an unrelated question: does anyone know if LTE phones automatically switch between 3G and LTE? One thing I always hated about WiMax is having to manually turn it on every time I want to use it!
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Wimax does automatically switch, as long as you leave the 4g radio on all the time - which kills batt like a mofo
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
FIRST ROUND MARKETS (14):
First round markets have no preceding markets before them. NV OEM's will mobilize in these markets and begin deployment. These markets will deploy slowly as there is a significant learning curve to Network Vision. Most first round markets started between December 2011 and March 2012.
Atlanta/Athens* Link
Houston* Link
DFW* (Dallas/Ft. Worth) Link
San Antonio* Link
Baltimore* Link
Kansas City* Link
Chicago Link
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Boston Link
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SECOND ROUND MARKETS (27):
Second round markets start based on First Round markets completing before them. There is a lot of variability of when Second Round markets start, between June/July 2012 and December 2012. It will all depend on how quickly the First Round market deployments go. Some preliminary work is being done in advance in these Second Markets as well. It's possible that if delays begin to occur in the First Round markets, NV OEM's may hire up additional subcontractors and get some key Second Round markets going. Stay tuned to S4GRU.com for updates.
South Bay (San Jose) Link
West Washington (Seattle) Link
West Michigan (Grand Rapids/Lansing) Link
Oregon/SW Washington (Portland) Link
Charlotte Link
Nashville Link
New Orleans Link
Philadelphia Metro Link
Southern Connecticut Link
PR/VI (Puerto Rico/Virgin Islands) Link
San Diego Link
Northern Jersey Link
Orange County, California Link
Raleigh/Durham Link
Orlando Link
Miami/West Palm Link
Riverside/San Bernardino Link
Indianapolis Link
East Michigan (Detroit) Link
Norfolk (Hampton Roads) Link
Long Island Link
Tampa Link
Jacksonville Link
Memphis Link
Minnesota Link
South West Florida Link
Ft. Wayne/South Bend Link
I also heard that maybe just maybe the Note may be coming over as well the HTC One... Sprint may be stepping there game up.. After reading up on the new HTC phone I may be coming back as long as though LTE speeds kick in like they should in my area...
Michigan part of the 2nd wave and no Ohio, c'mon man! This is why I hate Ohio, can't wait to move..LOL
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I don't know about the rest of you, but forget LTE coverage -- I'm just waiting for Sprint to get regular coverage on the tower that's been my in my neighborhood like they promised (and their coverage map showed) for the last 3 years!
I have found the Wimax coverage in Florida to be more than adequate. No, I can't get it at my house, but I have WiFi there. But just about everywhere else when I'm traveling or in even small local cities, I get Wimax.
Sprint is about two years behind on LTE. Not very enticing to stay with them after my contract is up in the Fall. The only reason why I didn't demand early contract termination is because I like my EVO 4G phone and don't feel like spending another $300 on a new Verizon phone at the moment.
Nah Verizons, and att switches. So sprints will prob
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Any one got any insight about when 4G will be here in the UK on Networks other than EE (who are a rip off)? I notice that Vodafone are now advertsing 4G on their site and selling 4G phones even though they provide no service yet. So I was wondering whether a date has been talked about yet for their 4G roll out?
I guess O2 will launch there's around the same time but what about Three? I cant seem to find info on this anywhere. Thanks :silly:
Re: [Q] 4G UK - when will it be here?
First questions go in Q&A
2nd this phone has wimax 4G and is no longer being expanded. I am guessing you are in the wrong forum.
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I just manually checked for an update and my phone downloaded a file. After reboot sprint spark has been installed. Sadly, I have not seen a speed or signal gain yet.
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Sorry but Why is this in the development thread? Wrong place to post try the Q&A thread
My mistake. Wasn't paying attention obviously. :/
Commander Rikers Beard said:
I just manually checked for an update and my phone downloaded a file. After reboot sprint spark has been installed. Sadly, I have not seen a speed or signal gain yet.
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Commander Rikers Beard said:
My mistake. Wasn't paying attention obviously. :/
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Just so you know just because you have the Sprint Spark update doesn't mean you will get the fast speeds at this point. The Spark update means that when B26 and B41 LTE is finally built out in your area, your phone can handle it. There are only a few markets out there that are officially Spark enabled which are listed below. Clearly Phoenix is not on this list and thus this is why you don't see the fast speeds. See the press release below for proof.
Spark is now available in the following 11 markets:
Austin, Texas
Chicago
Dallas
Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Fort Worth, Texas
Houston
Los Angeles
Miami
New York
San Antonio, Texas
Tampa, Fla.
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Trust me you won't be seeing Spark in Phoenix for a while. I work at a Sprint store in Arizona and we are barely even getting LTE up around the valley. Spark is a ways off.
this is must be just a marketing BS name. my guess its the same as lte.
I can get 50mbps here easily with lte. I've seen even up to 100mbps on a test network near tower.
with a "normal" lte phone so.... 100mbps was on nexus 4