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Compared the GN to the GS2 and Iphone 4s today

After reading a lot of reviews and discussions about the Galaxy Note it was time to see and feel the Note in real life today. I went to a quiet gsm shop and took my time comparing the Note to the GS2 and the Iphone 4s. I'm an Iphone user for almost 4 years and a happy camper most of the times, until the Iphone 5 didn't show..... First impression of the Note: huge, slim and.....huge! Time to play around with it and check out the whole "pentile-retina-rgb story. Conclusion: Iphone 4s best screen quality, followed bij the Note and the S2. White is kind of blue on the Note and you can see the pentile "frames". Black is wow, colours nice, but the white.....pitty..... Then the scrolling/pinching experience on the Note (better on the S2): a lot of lag, not very fluid speedwise. The browsing experience is a totally different story, you can just read a whole website on the Note without scrolling and pinching most of the time. This is an amazing experience and unmatched by any other phone. But still........ I'm more confused after today.....which one to take.... There is no perfect phone, no complete package, compromises all the time. Waiting for the S3 is no option, Galaxy Nexus no match, streamlining the Note with updates like ICS is no holy grail.....
Now time for a nice diner and maybe you guys can give me some headrest....

iPhone is solid (too much so)
Galaxy S2 is quick and sleek
Note has a beautifully large display (primarily for browsing)
your choice...only a matter of time before updates comes out for the note to make it as responsive as the rest... i'll stick with my note

To fix the color issue you faced:
1. Go to "Settings"
2. "Display"
3. "Screen Mode"
4. Select the best one for you. I love "Dynamic" since the colors are rich and warm. "Standard" and "Movie" are kind of bluish which might explain the problem you have.
You will never see such detail and options on any iPhone.

Let the Note get Cyanogen or ICS.. Will be awesome (until Samsung launch SG3 in four months)
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Beyond the contrast options, you must take into account, for the lag, the fact that Android is customizeable, and the best user experience may not be the stock one. Also, shop phones may have several amounts of crap installed and misconfigured in it that a stock phone will not come with.

Viamonte said:
Beyond the contrast options, you must take into account, for the lag, the fact that Android is customizeable, and the best user experience may not be the stock one. Also, shop phones may have several amounts of crap installed and misconfigured in it that a stock phone will not come with.
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Agree with you on the last bit.
I was one of the first few people to try the Galaxy Note in my local Samsung Shop and it was smooth as butter. I bought mine and after loading with many apps it is still running as smooth as any iPhone can be, if not better.

Thnx for the replies guys. I tested the different `screen modes`and the saturation of the colours changed indeed, except the white balance. It remained `blueish`. Do you recognize this phenomenon? I really hope the lag will disappear with updates like the 2.3.6 one, because the model in the shop was stil on 2.3.5. Because of the lag I miss the `in control` sensation.

biggy83 said:
Agree with you on the last bit.
I was one of the first few people to try the Galaxy Note in my local Samsung Shop and it was smooth as butter. I bought mine and after loading with many apps it is still running as smooth as any iPhone can be, if not better.
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Hey "Biggy83"!
Could please share the street price(lowest) for the Note in Dubai or Sharjah??
It will be a real help!!
I stay in Abu Dhabi

Thnx for the replies guys. I tested the different `screen modes`and the saturation of the colours changed indeed, except the white balance. It remained `blueish`. Do you recognize this phenomenon? I really hope the lag will disappear with updates like the 2.3.6 one, because the model in the shop was stil on 2.3.5. Because of the lag I miss the `in control` sensation.
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2.3.6 has no lag
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btentusscher said:
Thnx for the replies guys. I tested the different `screen modes`and the saturation of the colours changed indeed, except the white balance. It remained `blueish`. Do you recognize this phenomenon? I really hope the lag will disappear with updates like the 2.3.6 one, because the model in the shop was stil on 2.3.5. Because of the lag I miss the `in control` sensation.
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Yes whites are bluyish (colder) on samoled screens, but you only notice it when you put a hotter screen nearby (iphone 4s is hot white). Try spending 10 minutes browsing on the note or S2 without looking at any other white screen nearby and your brain will register white as white...
I'm not joking.

frostering said:
. Will be awesome (until Samsung launch SG3 in four months)
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Not until it will have a 5.3 inch screen. Cant go lower now

Maybe you´re completely right about the white. I´m a bit of a hifi guy and listened to many different high end speakers and amplifiers in my life. You get the same problem in that situation because you are comparing too much. It´s about the details that come to light next to each other, but completely disappear when you take them apart. Sound is emotion, and eyesight is not far away. Maybe the solution is to just buy the damn thing and see what happens. Discussing about it is also nice though....hehe
ps I´m from the netherlands, so forgive me for my english.

Ziplomatic said:
Hey "Biggy83"!
Could please share the street price(lowest) for the Note in Dubai or Sharjah??
It will be a real help!!
I stay in Abu Dhabi
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I live in Dubai & bought my Galaxy Note from Jumbo Electronics, cost me 2999 dirhams.
It was the LAST one in stock in the whole of Dubai, I bought it from the main branch in Bur Dubai, opposite Al Ain Centre...

Super AMOLED always has worse whites than regular LCD panels, its also less bright, that's a given. If I had to liken Super AMOLED to any TV technology it would be high end plasma tvs. They also have awesome blacks and color but their white levels are below LCD tvs. However, the trade off is that you don't get ugly gray screens during black scenes and in the case of AMOLED, black levels are infinite as is the contrast ratio (thus giving you more "pop" in your images). So it more than makes up for the lesser brightness vs LCDs like those found in iPhone 4s.

5150Joker said:
Super AMOLED always has worse whites than regular LCD panels, its also less bright, that's a given...
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My Note's screen is brighter than just about every other phone I've had, which were mostly LCDs.

btentusscher said:
Conclusion: Iphone 4s best screen quality...
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I owned an iP4 since launch day and had it for over a year then switched to the S2, and now I have a Note. I agree with you that the iP4 has the overall best screen quality, but it's a shame you have to zoom into almost everything since it is so tiddly.
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There is no perfect phone, no complete package, compromises all the time.
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True.
Having only been using Android for 2-3 months now, first on the S2 and currently on the Note, at this point in time I believe I will never go back to iOS.
It is indeed about compromises, and the Note ticks FAR more boxes for my requirements, hence it is a no brainer over an iPhone. Once you start using the beast of a screen you can't go back to an iPhone, even my S2 feels so small now.

ik911 said:
2.3.6 has no lag
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My SII is so responsive it could take an eye out, but my Note is still laggy enough to be bothersome with 2.3.6.

maxh said:
My Note's screen is brighter than just about every other phone I've had, which were mostly LCDs.
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Galaxy Note's max brightness is about 429 cd/m^2 vs 654 cd/m^2 for the iPhone 4s. That's a huge difference and thus backs up what I said.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p2.php

5150Joker said:
Galaxy Note's max brightness is about 429 cd/m^2 vs 654 cd/m^2 for the iPhone 4s. That's a huge difference and thus backs up what I said.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p2.php
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So because one LCD phone you had has a higher brightness than one AMOLED phone, it makes sense to say that it's a given that LCDs are brighter than AMOLEDs... Right... Are you a scientist?

maxh said:
So because one LCD phone you had has a higher brightness than one AMOLED phone, it makes sense to say that it's a given that LCDs are brighter than AMOLEDs... Right... Are you a scientist?
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Did you bother clicking on the link? The Super AMOLED brightness is basically middle of the road. I can find a lot more examples of LCD panels that are way brighter but why bother? It's common knowledge, I guess nobody's clued you in yet. And yes I am a scientist.
P.S. Go over to your local AT&T store, pull out your Note and put it next to the newly released HTC Vivid. Then try to tell me with a straight face that the Note is nearly as bright.

Just moved over from an S3 - Some help needed please

Hey guys, I've just moved over from an S3 and have some questions. Any help is appreciated.
1. With a higher PPI, I assumed the screen would be more clearer. The colors are washed and the picture quality is not as good as the S3. What is better is text. It seems sharper, but pictures looked washed and not as good as the S3. I've noticed a thread with changing the RGB values, and have tried to the app to change the values, but I it is still not as good as the S3. Can anything be done to resolve this?
2. Wireless Charging - i want to be able to do this, but I have seen the Nokia chargers are a little hit and miss. Which ones work 100%?
3. High battery drain. Which is the best kernel to use with AOKP?
Many thanks for your help guys

1. Use faux kernel with faux app
2. qi chargers other than nokia
3. faux kernel and his app + his values
4. use q and a thread

Once you've used nexus for a while, the s3 screen will look cartoon and awful seriously. Put a really good HD colourful background pic on homescren and use phone for a few weeks and you'll never ever go back to amoled screens unless you really really love cartoons lol.
As for battery drain, this will improve but faux kernels are excellent

biffsmash said:
Once you've used nexus for a while, the s3 screen will look cartoon and awful seriously. Put a really good HD colourful background pic on homescren and use phone for a few weeks and you'll never ever go back to amoled screens unless you really really love cartoons lol.
As for battery drain, this will improve but faux kernels are excellent
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I've installed the faux kernel so will see how it goes
Just took a picture of the same image with an S3 and the N4 and the S3 looks so much better.

winwiz said:
I've installed the faux kernel so will see how it goes
Just took a picture of the same image with an S3 and the N4 and the S3 looks so much better.
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To be honest, I m in the same situation as you.
The screen, I think we ll get used to it, my wife still got her S3, and it is not natural in another way . But agreed that the screen is "pale".
The worst is the battery, as soon as the screen is used, the drain is just so huge....
BUT
The SGS3 is no new phone, remember, so I m sure the N4 will get better in the battery front.
The possibilities of developpement fun will make up for it, because after all, that s why we are here on XDA, right?

kipue said:
To be honest, I m in the same situation as you.
The screen, I think we ll get used to it, my wife still got her S3, and it is not natural in another way . But agreed that the screen is "pale".
The worst is the battery, as soon as the screen is used, the drain is just so huge....
BUT
The SGS3 is no new phone, remember, so I m sure the N4 will get better in the battery front.
The possibilities of developpement fun will make up for it, because after all, that s why we are here on XDA, right?
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I was happier when I had my S3, as there was plenty of development
but since I upgraded to the S3 LTE, the development was limited and I got frustrated. Also my S3 LTE kept dropping reception and it was getting really annoying so I got rid of it

The AMOLED screen on the S3 is seriously a joke. Colors are over saturated and as someone else already said, it looks cartoonish.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

I can see the appeal in the AMOLED screens Samsung uses. They do produce some vibrant colors. Comparing my old Captivate (SGS1) to my Nexus 4 is even a pretty stark difference. Honestly, though, I have come to prefer the less saturated look on the N4.

I came from the S3, the only things I really miss are the camera and the battery.
The camera is amazing on the S3, the pictures were always much sharper than the pictures taken with the N4, the N4 does take VERY nice pictures with ample light.
The battery on the S3 seemed to be a lot better, and drain much slower...I'm REALLY hoping that this gets fixed with 4.2.2....
After using the N4 since its initial release looking at the S3 screen is...bad (IMO), I LOVED the S3, but the screen on the N4 is a lot brighter, clearer and seems to have more natural colors.

For kernel, I recommend the latest faux beta kernel, has amazing battery life for me and has also been relatively stable. It has one issue for me, sometimes the phone just doesn't wake up after I turned off the screen, but that's only in rare cases and really no big deal.
You should also use the faux app from the Play Store, it's a bit expensive imo but it's worth it since you can do all kinds of stuff with it from undervolting to setting the screen calibration.
Speaking of screen calibration: The stock one is really not that goot, especially the whites and overall colours on lower brightness looked a bit weird to me sometimes. But I changed the calibration a bit and it looks awesome and just "true" (again, to me personally). I'll post my calibration here, maybe you can try it. I took it from a spreadsheet where it said it would be calibrated just like a MacBook Pro screen which is supposed to be perfectly calibrated:
Red 255, Green 255, Blue 255. Gamma Amp0: Red 19, Green 21, Blue 24. Gamma Amp1: Red 1, Green 2, Blue 3.
I hope it helps.

Like some previous comments stated, the amoled screens are OVER saturated to the max.
As far as the battery life, I would look into juicedefender. Works great for me.

My Note 2's screen looks much more similar to my Nexus 4's screen when screen mode is set to "Natural." Does the S3 have a similar setting to make the AMOLED vibrancy less jarring?

cartoons
Hey just in case you do like cartoons, see how these look;
http://www.animewapers.com/hd-anime-wallpapers-directory/
As for battery, wait 'til the honeymoon is over. It lasts plenty. Unless you have NOW enabled.

I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?

I've been a GS3 user from release date. I was on AOKP for the longest that I wanted to try the real deal. I just got my Nexus 4 two days ago and I love everything about it except the camera. GS3 camera wins hand down. The screen on the Nexus 4 is amazing and you won't want to look at your Samsung anymore.
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aaron.bufc said:
I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
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The phones are equally good in my opinion. If you like touch wiz, stay with the s3. If you like stock android, want more Dev support, and don't want to put up with Samsung's slow updates then go with the nexus. I personally prefer my nexus because I want the updates from Google and not the OEM's, and I'm a flashaholic.
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aaron.bufc said:
I'm considering buying a Nexus 4 now that it's back in stock and I can afford it. I've no need for the phone at all but just really like everything about it. Currently using an S3 also... anyone who owned both care to share opinions?
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Well the Nexus 4 is a lot faster and the screen doesn't look so weird like the S3. The N4 feels a little different in the hand - much better build quality on the N4 but the tapered edges of the S3 are a little nicer on the hand. You will definitely like the N4, it feels like quality kit in your hand and performance is excellent.
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I got my N4 2 days ago. Before that I owned an S3. When I first looked at the N4's screen, it was very strange, it seemed pale to me, and I missed the accurate blacks from Amoled. But after one day I got used to it, and began to like it more and more. It's very sharp, and clean. The build quality is much better, and more solid than the S3.Imo it is beautiful with its minimal design.
The peformance is better, not a single app redraw or anything... Battery... For me it lasts from morning 7 till I arrive at home at 7 pm, and still has some energy in it (approx. 20%). On the way to work I listen to music and read forums for 1 hour, and I repeat this on the way home too. During the work, I send a few emails, some facebook, and every service is on. I don't think it would be so bad... Day by day I like my N4 more and more.

First Nexus 6 on video?

Dodgy vine unboxing video aside, I think this is the first hands-on of the Nexus 6, and it's also compared to the Note 4!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y
Video Summary:
Note 4 display has better colours.
Note 4 has slightly sharper images (likely the 3mp extra coming into account)
Nexus 6 has better low light images and flash
Nexus 6 has the better software (surprising no one at all)
Shame its so short and doesnt really go into any of the other features. I really wanted to know how the Stereo speakers were on the Nexus 6.

notice how finalized model doesn't have that metal dimple but just like the 1st gen Moto X, wonder what changed their minds, it felt pretty good on 2nd MotoX.

DiNoise said:
notice how finalized model doesn't have that metal dimple but just like the 1st gen Moto X, wonder what changed their minds, it felt pretty good on 2nd MotoX.
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I noticed that. Now I'm a bit confused. I want the white Nexus 6, but not if the dimple in the back is going to be black. Is the one in the video just not the final version or something?

KerryWood34 said:
I noticed that. Now I'm a bit confused. I want the white Nexus 6, but not if the dimple in the back is going to be black. Is the one in the video just not the final version or something?
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The phone in the video is not the final version.
I also noticed that the video states the nexus 6 to have an LCD display while it has an AMOLED display. It's most likely a preproduction unit or something.

Holy crap thats bigger than I expected

Note 4 screen was just wow... but nexus screen is clearly bigger...

What's really disappointing is that the Note 4 has more vibrant and saturated colors and a much brighter screen. Hopefully the final release will have a brighter screen.

KerryWood34 said:
I noticed that. Now I'm a bit confused. I want the white Nexus 6, but not if the dimple in the back is going to be black. Is the one in the video just not the final version or something?
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It clearly shows on the Nexus page that it will not have preproduction dimple

msal said:
What's really disappointing is that the Note 4 has more vibrant and saturated colors and a much brighter screen. Hopefully the final release will have a brighter screen.
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Samsung over-saturates their screens so the N6 will not have that. I prefer the Sammy screen but w/e

mk92595 said:
Samsung over-saturates their screens so the N6 will not have that. I prefer the Sammy screen but w/e
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Yeah I also prefer Samsung's displays. I understand the saturation levels, but why is the Note 4 so much more bright?

msal said:
Yeah I also prefer Samsung's displays. I understand the saturation levels, but why is the Note 4 so much more bright?
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Could be something as simple as different ambient light sensor settings. Samsung may have it designed to crank the brightness up higher than it really would need to be? Who knows.
Also have to take into account the angles at which he was holding the phones. When he's holding them both up in front of him while the video is playing, they seem to be angled slightly towards each other... and the Nexus 6 seems to be getting a lot more glare. When you see him browsing the settings menu, the brightness difference is much less prominent.

mk92595 said:
Samsung over-saturates their screens so the N6 will not have that. I prefer the Sammy screen but w/e
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The Note 4 has a basic color setting (in addition to typical AMOLED saturations), which works so well,
it is the most accurate smartphone display ever made.
msal said:
Yeah I also prefer Samsung's displays. I understand the saturation levels, but why is the Note 4 so much more bright?
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I highly anticipate Samsung didn't give the N6 access to their latest and greatest AMOLED technology like they did their own flagship - enough said until official reviews post.
elementaldragon said:
Could be something as simple as different ambient light sensor settings. Samsung may have it designed to crank the brightness up higher than it really would need to be? Who knows.
Also have to take into account the angles at which he was holding the phones. When he's holding them both up in front of him while the video is playing, they seem to be angled slightly towards each other... and the Nexus 6 seems to be getting a lot more glare. When you see him browsing the settings menu, the brightness difference is much less prominent.
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Both devices are at 100% manual brightness when on the home screen and settings pages (unsure on video, but likely the same). Do remember that on auto brightness, the Note 4 can actually go up another 140~ nits as part of an outdoor boost mode. The Note also has adaptive display color modes (likely enabled by default here) to saturate colors to increase contrast in sunlight, in addition to their less reflective glass panel. Samsung got it right from how it looks so far. Perplexed as to why they'd do an outside video though with a crappy camera.
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I highly anticipate Samsung didn't give the N6 access to their latest and greatest AMOLED technology like they did their own flagship - enough said until official reviews post.
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Well this is going to suck then lol. That means the Nexus 5 display will be similar to that of the S4.

Probably more likely it's the Note 3 technology.
Moto X = S4 technology - same brightness, released 12 months later
Nexus 6 = Note 3 technology, released 12 months later

Nitemare3219 said:
I highly anticipate Samsung didn't give the N6 access to their latest and greatest AMOLED technology like they did their own flagship - enough said until official reviews post.
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SO you think that only Samsung Produce AMOLED panels ?
AU Optronics also make AMOLED displays, also I can't imagine Moto asking Samsung for the display in the first place as Im sure Samsung would stitch them up something rotten.
Regardless of who makes the panel its mor eof the fact that google have a 6" because this is all it is about who can make the best Phablet.
As long as the Battery can handle the screen i can't see why it wont sell in droves to the Phablet market over the note if the price is right, if its too close to the Samsung people will just buy the Samsung and not compromise.
The note 4 retails here between £550 and £600, so the Nexus 6 is going to have to respond to that !
so unless the lowest model of the N6 is around £450 i can't really see areason not to go with Sammys offerings and just ditch Touchwhizz when you get root and flash Stock.

Dont forget with a nexus we can change the screen color with custom kernels.If you want more contrast, add it! At least this is how i remember it on my galaxy nexus.

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Probably more likely it's the Note 3 technology.
Moto X = S4 technology - same brightness, released 12 months later
Nexus 6 = Note 3 technology, released 12 months later
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If that's the case, it shouldn't be bad by any means... just not as good efficiency or accuracy wise as the new displays.
hutzdani said:
SO you think that only Samsung Produce AMOLED panels ?
AU Optronics also make AMOLED displays, also I can't imagine Moto asking Samsung for the display in the first place as Im sure Samsung would stitch them up something rotten.
Regardless of who makes the panel its mor eof the fact that google have a 6" because this is all it is about who can make the best Phablet.
As long as the Battery can handle the screen i can't see why it wont sell in droves to the Phablet market over the note if the price is right, if its too close to the Samsung people will just buy the Samsung and not compromise.
The note 4 retails here between £550 and £600, so the Nexus 6 is going to have to respond to that !
so unless the lowest model of the N6 is around £450 i can't really see areason not to go with Sammys offerings and just ditch Touchwhizz when you get root and flash Stock.
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Perhaps not only Samsung, but I'm sure they're the best. They have plenty of money and invented the technology...
The N6 may be 6", but for the average user they are losing that additional screen space to buttons. And the S-Pen is something that puts the Note a whole league ahead of the N6. Size isn't everything, especially when you hit the phablet sector. All these phones are big, so what else do they have to offer?
Don't get me wrong, I've been a Nexus user for years and just recently got the G3 to try it out (big mistake). I want the N6 to be amazing and win me over, but I feel like I'm going to be somewhat let down compared to other flagships yet again which is a big deal considering the price isn't any different now.
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Dont forget with a nexus we can change the screen color with custom kernels.If you want more contrast, add it! At least this is how i remember it on my galaxy nexus.
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True, but how well the display was built is still a factor. And you can't increase brightness or fix viewing angles
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Nitemare3219 said:
SNIP.....
Don't get me wrong, I've been a Nexus user for years and just recently got the G3 to try it out (big mistake). I want the N6 to be amazing and win me over, but I feel like I'm going to be somewhat let down compared to other flagships yet again which is a big deal considering the price isn't any different now.
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In your Case if your G3 is your Daily Driver i don't think the Nexus 6 will be disappointing as you have no L preview to flash and get used to Lollipop, the G3 is a solid device bar the OS skin which is so cluttered.
The best thing about the Nexus 6 will be the Build quality, the N5 is so soft and has finally succomed to light dinks out of the plastic and cracking between the plastic around the side volume / power and sim.

hutzdani said:
In your Case if your G3 is your Daily Driver i don't think the Nexus 6 will be disappointing as you have no L preview to flash and get used to Lollipop, the G3 is a solid device bar the OS skin which is so cluttered.
The best thing about the Nexus 6 will be the Build quality, the N5 is so soft and has finally succomed to light dinks out of the plastic and cracking between the plastic around the side volume / power and sim.
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I thought the back of the Nexus 6 was soft plastic again? Either way the phone is gorgeous. I'm not sure how much I like the front of it though.. reminds me a lot of the Nexus 4.
My G3 has a great camera, and amazing display. It could be brighter, and a little warmer for color accuracy, but it is IPS and I love it. The problem with the G3 isn't within cluttered OS (I find it to be pretty close to stock Android), but with lag, build quality, probable lack of dev, and bugs.
The 801 cannot handle this device, plain and simple - at least in terms of Nexus speed. It also overheats when things get crazy. The phone looks great, don't get me wrong. But the casing has reportedly cracked at ports because it is still plastic (must be crap plastic at that). I do love the front design of the phone (back is whatever because it's always been in a case), especially in white. The T-Mobile boot loader has been open since day 1, and development is still dead. ATT just got theirs unlocked, but I feel like the device just isn't going to take off at this point. Reception has been a pain where I'm currently located, WiFi drops and hesitates to reconnect all too frequently, WiFi calling messes up, WiFi hotspots are broken without apps, and int'l roaming didn't work out of the box to name a few issues. LG software support is crap, so I have no hope for this device.
But then you might say - it's Android, who cares about bad software? Well, with a lack of dev, that is still a problem. Secondly, I used to be a flashaholic. I've had Android since the G1 debuted in 2008. But I've grown out of constantly flashing, updating, tinkering... I'll do a few things here or there, but I kept my Nexus 5 stock (rooted w/ recovery though) the entire time I've had it (still do). I did a few modifications, but that's it. I change phones every year or so because I haven't had one that just blew me away and made me feel like I could keep it for awhile, without needing to try a million different ROMs either. The Note 4 or Nexus 6 could be that device I actually keep more than a year IF they deliver the whole package. Displays and cameras are finally getting where they need to be, and if the hardware and software can make the phone blazing fast, I have everything I need.
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the SPen in note 2 and 3.
But Touchwiz is just painful. Custom ROMs void the warranty too.
Plus the Exynos variant is quite a bit more powerful than the more common Snapdragon version, and also has a better camera and wolfson DAC. However, Exynos has poor ROM support outside of tweaked Touchwiz. And as I say, warranty = void.
A custom launcher can't get rid of all that bloat unfortunately. The note 4 pretty much maxes all available RAM out of the box due to the bloat.
Screen might not be as good, but the build quality looks to be better, front facing speakers, and above all else a phone that you can do whatever you want to. No restrictions.
Literally the only bad thing in my eyes is the lack of micro SD support, but everyone knew that before it was announced anyway. 64GB is more than enough for me.

Holy Screen Saturation Batman!

So,
Straight from the start it was evident that The Droid Turbo has a pretty saturated screen. It bothered me a bit, but overall I was OK with it. Over-saturated colors - to me - were just a small annoyance.
That was until the new Gmail app with it's new UI was launched.
I find it almost painful to use on my Droid Turbo. (I still don't care for the new UI on my 2013 Nexus 7, but at least the over saturated reds aren't as insane.
Is there any way to adjust things like saturation and contrast on this phone? Turn them down to more sane levels?
The experience right now is reminiscent of that overblown in-store TV display mode.
Appreciate any thoughts,
Matt

Coming from an HTC One (M7) this is what I first noticed too. Sadly until we get root I don't think we can do much.

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Coming from an HTC One (M7) this is what I first noticed too. Sadly until we get root I don't think we can do much.
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Yeah, I was using an LG G2 prior to this, and it was pretty saturated, but not this much by far.

Display issue on le pro3

I have heard that le pro 3 has some display issue.... First of all the screen mute Ness the screen colour accuracy is not true to life and cold colours and second of all the touch latency it's something to notice I think that is it's EUI's fault.
Please some clarity my doubts

Depends partly on rom
Hello, I have not read before about general display / touchscreen issues, but I have used 3 custom roms (and of course stock) in my time with this phone yet and can say that there is a noticeable difference in how it reacts depending on what the developer worked out. That said, I have to stress that every part of this phone so far feels and works as you would expect from a state of the art phone. Alright, beside the camera, that's close to crappy , but the rest is great. My comparison "group" so far is LG G4, Samsung S7 edge (yeah, that screen image quality is unbeaten, but it's all very close i would say) and Sony Xperia and the Leeco Pro 3 with for example Turbo Rom is snappier than all of them. There is definitly no lag or something like that.
Looking just at image quality, I mean, there are ways to adjust color and brightness, so you can set up what you like - I didnt look for color settings since it looks "normal" andbrightness is on auto adjust, it's always, even in direct sunlight, perfectly readable. A resolution beyond full hd in 5,5 inches is imo useless if your not going for VR stuff - so really, if you are looking for weaknesses on that phone, it's not the screen. Yes, I became a bit of a fanboy from using it .

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Hello, I have not read before about general display / touchscreen issues, but I have used 3 custom roms (and of course stock) in my time with this phone yet and can say that there is a noticeable difference in how it reacts depending on what the developer worked out. That said, I have to stress that every part of this phone so far feels and works as you would expect from a state of the art phone. Alright, beside the camera, that's close to crappy , but the rest is great. My comparison "group" so far is LG G4, Samsung S7 edge (yeah, that screen image quality is unbeaten, but it's all very close i would say) and Sony Xperia and the Leeco Pro 3 with for example Turbo Rom is snappier than all of them. There is definitly no lag or something like that.
Looking just at image quality, I mean, there are ways to adjust color and brightness, so you can set up what you like - I didnt look for color settings since it looks "normal" andbrightness is on auto adjust, it's always, even in direct sunlight, perfectly readable. A resolution beyond full hd in 5,5 inches is imo useless if your not going for VR stuff - so really, if you are looking for weaknesses on that phone, it's not the screen. Yes, I became a bit of a fanboy from using it .
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Using custom official ROM like Lineage OS will fix the display latency/response time and colour mute Ness....?? Colours are not accurate on EUI

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "colors are not accurate" - as said, there are several possibilities of adjusting colors to your liking (there are apps for everything , some custom roms already include automatic night modes with less blue in it etc.
Regarding input lag, there simply is none whatsoever, this phone reacts blazing fast. I experienced some misinterpreted swipes taken as clicks in the first official lineage build, but that has been fixed with yesterday's update.
Despite the lower average camera, this phone is really good.

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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "colors are not accurate" - as said, there are several possibilities of adjusting colors to your liking (there are apps for everything , some custom roms already include automatic night modes with less blue in it etc.
Regarding input lag, there simply is none whatsoever, this phone reacts blazing fast. I experienced some misinterpreted swipes taken as clicks in the first official lineage build, but that has been fixed with yesterday's update.
Despite the lower average camera, this phone is really good.
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Actually it's camera is good it's software optimisation is really bad it has the same Sony imx 298 sensor which OnePlus 3t,mi5 and LG V20 has (excluding OIS) pictures from the rare camera should be great...
And one more thing is that though the camera take good shot you will not be able to enjoy it on the screen of the phone as it's mute colours....Just do one thing pull out the images from your mobile and copy it to computer and see it.
I debt you will see the difference between it colours with be more saturated and pops out that in phone

I heard the same thing from others in this forum - both the "sensor is same as xy, should be great" and "the pictures suck, no matter which camera app". All my pictures go to my pc via Onedrive and they are definitely worse than those of my previous Lg G4 or the oneplus 3t which my cousin took currently on a US visit and sent pics from or those my wife's xperia x compact takes. But it doesn't mean they are horrible. Just not "premium". And I don't care if it's hardware or software.
Back to the screen, I saw a friend of mine today owning a galaxy s7 edge. And yes, that screen is better. Although you can't count pixels on either display, I can see that that just by looking at it. But the difference is not that big, definitely a lot smaller than, just as an example, the pictures of the darn camera .
One question for me: What's your "point"? Do you have the phone and experience display issues? I would say that your either oversensitive or your device is flawed. Do you think about buying it and are worried about the screen? Then I would say don't worry.
Which is it?

Actually I'm going to buy it....saw some of the review on YouTube(Android Authority &pocketnow daily)they stated that its display is having a problem as it's colours is not punchier and vivid.So.....I created a Xda thread so that I can talk to people who own the device in real life day-to-day experience

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Actually I'm going to buy it....saw some of the review on YouTube(Android Authority &pocketnow daily)they stated that its display is having a problem as it's colours is not punchier and vivid.So.....I created a Xda thread so that I can talk to people who own the device in real life day-to-day experience
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Good choice . I think the criticism of "unpunchy" colors is just as common with LCD - Displays as criticism of too punchy colors on amoled.
I mean, buying this phone almost forces you to dig into TWRP and custom roms... So it's nothing for, e. g., my wife . But since you are here already, I bet you will be happy with it. In retrospect I could have saved a few bucks by not choosing the 6 / 64 GB Version - I use the second sim slot for a data only LTE 3 gb card for monthly 7 € and now stream everything. 54 gb free space ^^ and ram always more than 3 gb free...

ZTE axon 7 is also a competitive phone compared to le pro3.... The only problem with ZTE axon 7 is it's camera it preform really poorly is low light, but in good lighting it performs really well

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ZTE axon 7 is also a competitive phone compared to le pro3.... The only problem with ZTE axon 7 is it's camera it preform really poorly is low light, but in good lighting it performs really well
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It certainly is, had it on my list for quite some time as well. And I bet 50 bucks that the camera beats leecos in every condition . But my main focus was battery life and, coming from the LG G4, I found it nonsense to go for more than Full HD on devices smaller than 7 inches - on 5,5, even fhd is far beyond "retina" and since I won't strap the phone to my face VR style, it's just wasted energy pushing the extra pixels.
Add the smaller battery, the (slightly) older soc, less ram and all of that for about 70 € more (64gb versions), made it easy for me.

One thing to say leeco's design language is very impressive and glossy
Any news when le pro3 is getting nougat update... Where as ZTE axon 7 and OnePlus 3T already got 7.1.1 update