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Does anybody have their phone battery going flat quicker with Android Wear installed?
My note 3 used to last all day, now i have to charge it half day.
The battery usage has android Wear as the main culprit then system. My Samsung gear live has plenty of battery left (49%) after 16hrs used.
Battery life on Nexus 5 has is lasting half the time
jeux_1 said:
Does anybody have their phone battery going flat quicker with Android Wear installed?
My note 3 used to last all day, now i have to charge it half day.
The battery usage has android Wear as the main culprit then system. My Samsung gear live has plenty of battery left (49%) after 16hrs used.
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Yes, same problem here. Since installing wear, I'm getting half the life out of my Nexus 5 battery after installing and connecting Android Wear device (Samsung Live). I usually get more than a day's worth of time from my phone, I had burned through 75% of the battery by noon today.
Did you have google now disabled before, but enabled now? If so, try it with google now disabled.
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I always used Google now on my phone. The note 3 battery has been great and i have never had the need to disable or do anything. I feel that I may had to send the watch back based on that only.
Got the same problem with an CustomROM, simply annoying with the battery charge with Android Wear and my S3.
Wear had an impact on battery life but not to a point where I'd consider returning the watch.
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I mean, I was able to last almost 2 full days before having the watch and now I need to charge the phone when I come home from work. I'm okay with that.
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Are you guys on Bluetooth 3.0 or 4.0?
Bluetooth 4.0 le. I guess the battery on the phone is halved.
With google now turned off, I'm getting close to the previous battery life.
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my cousin has same problem,battery drains faster than the usual :crying:
I'm also encountering heavy battery drain with Wear. Didn't have this issue with my Pebble, and there's nothing obvious in BetterBatteryStats or the Android battery settings. Nothing in there ever shows up as bluetooth or Wear related. I've always used Now, nothing new there.
Have this, too.
I have not noticed any difference in battery use. In the battery usage display has any activity moved up in the usage list?
stevemw said:
I have not noticed any difference in battery use. In the battery usage display has any activity moved up in the usage list?
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Yeah. The Android Wear App takes like 50-60%, it trumps even System and Display (around 10% each).
The problem definitely is the Wear app on the phone that takes many CPU cycles.
What I tried:
- Reboot watch
- Reboot phone
- Uninstall all apps on watch
- Pairing the watch again with the phone
- Disabling Google Now
- Cleared data of the Android Wear app (which did not(!) reset the settings of that app)
EDIT: Well blimey! Talk about buggy software: Now it works again... Devices just sitting on my desk... No drain anymore...
EDIT2: And now it starts again to drain... what the actual hell?
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I have not noticed any difference in battery use. In the battery usage display has any activity moved up in the usage list?
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Nothing for me here... Everything looks normal for my phone. There's just less battery life. It's really odd.
jeux_1 said:
Does anybody have their phone battery going flat quicker with Android Wear installed?
My note 3 used to last all day, now i have to charge it half day.
The battery usage has android Wear as the main culprit then system. My Samsung gear live has plenty of battery left (49%) after 16hrs used.
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I was experiencing some pretty serious battery drain on my nexus 5 after getting my G watch. At first I didnt really notice it and thought I was just using the phone harder at work (which i might have also been). But one night i unplugged my fully charged phone right before falling asleep and woke up 6 hours later with about 70% battery, i knew something was up.
BBS didnt really provide much insight, and the android battery info just listed Android System as #1 battery user. I got another app, Wakelock Detector, and enabled Advanced Mode in the settings so it shows system processes and discovered that BluetoothRemoteDevices had kept my phone from entering deep sleep most of the night.
Since the only bluetooth device i had paired up at that time was my G watch, I knew it was prob something related to it. I went through and uninstalled a few of the Wear apps i had been using and now i have much better battery life again. I think the culprit for me was the app Wear Unlock or possibly the one camera app I was using also. So maybe go through and try removing as many wear apps as you can and see if it gets better for you. I only have a couple watch faces, wear mini launcher, wear calculator, Calendar, and Wear Aware installed now and much less BluetoothRemoteDevices wakes and my battery life is good on both phone and watch!
Hope this helps
Ubelsteiner said:
go through and try removing as many wear apps as you can
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But I love all my apps :'(
Seriously though, it's been happening since day one where the only apps compatible I had installed were Hangouts, Maps, and Keep. I haven't noticed battery life getting worse as I've installed more.
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This seems to be another but compared to mine. Glad you have figured it out!
For my bug (high drain of Wear app on phone) I uninstalled and reinstalled the app, also I restored the watch (using the menu option). Drain gone... Fingers crossed!
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Next day: Had my watch and phone on the desk over the night (non-charging). Everything fine. Then I started charging the phone. When it was full, I unplugged it and suddenly the Wear app was listet with top battery usage (50%). Only app on watch was the StarWatch watchface.
I have isolated the problem: The battery drain start when I leave home in the morning. Seems there is something that the Wear app does (tries, maybe fails to do). I have uninstalled the Llama app which in my case triggers some actions when I leave home. Let's see what happens.
EDIT: Not solved. Killing the Wear app temporarily stopps the battery usage. But it comes again. By the way: The Wear app seems to do some task periodically, because I get a huge battery drain spike each 5 seconds. Is there any kind of possibility to log what the app does.
Is anyone using the Wear App Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=goko.ws2)? I've read that this app could be the cause for poor battery performance on the phone.
I've been having some massive battery issues the past week, with a full charge going dead after only 8 or so hours of medium to low usage. I thought it was maybe the battery, so I bought a new one, but it's still doing it. GSAM shows "Android System" taking up the most battery by far (close to 28%), but I have no idea how to narrow that down to specifics. And after I updated the last OTA, I lost root, so Wakelock Detector isn't working anymore. What's the best way to figure out what's causing this? It's super annoying.
Hey again I posted in another topic of yours I would use any app I could I've used battery doctor that monitors apps. Deep sleep battery saver. Seems like your phones awake all the time. Maybe even battery monitor widget.
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So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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Soundfreak82 said:
1% per hour is pretty good. That means your phone would stay on for up to 100hrs which is more than 5 days. Are you complaining about that?
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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aamir123 said:
So Doze is supposed to minimize battery drain to almost nothing overnight or when the phone is not in use for a long time. How many people have actually experienced that? I'm not sure what to think, I lose about 1% per hour consistently overnight. That's without greenify or other battery saver methods. But it still seems excessive to me for such a hyped feature. I wonder if future hacks will be able to turn doze on in 1/2 hour instead of 1 hour. What have your experiences been?
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
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Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.
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Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.
Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.
Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.
The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.
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Phil
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that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA
Otherwise try as @PhilipL suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.
Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
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aamir123 said:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).
Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
Regards
Phil
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It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.
One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.
Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.
Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.
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Phil
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.
Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil
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What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?
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Phil
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Adaptive brightness less than 50%
I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.
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Phil
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Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.
When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.
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That is pretty bad if Doze is on given that 1%/hr is a widely accepted standard pre-marshmallow
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Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.
I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.
Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.
Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
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Hello,
After reading alot of reviews about the s7 edge battery life i decided to get it. so i got 2 days ago and was really excited about it. the problem the battery is draining so fast and thats really confusing
ive seen screenshots with 50 hours and 60 hours with estimated time. mine barely shows 7 hours. today for example i left the house at 8 with 92% and now im back wth 36% left screen was on auto with wifi
and 3g and sometime gps on. is this normal? am i being paranoid? is it true that the battery will get better with more days of use?
Please tell me what should i do im really worried that its faulty or something.
PS: i did a factory reset before i use it.
Yes, it will take a couple of days for the battery to level out. Do you have the Exynos or Snapdragon processor? What apps are reporting high battery use? Have you disabled any apps?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, but all of these things play a role in your battery life. I recommend GSAM battery monitor and Greenify with aggressive doze, but I will say that 50-60 hours is ambitious. I can usually get 25-30 hours with about 5 hours of SOT. That is with a combination of wifi, 4g, gps and Bluetooth on (android wear), some gaming and facebook, instagram, etc.
neezy13 said:
Yes, it will take a couple of days for the battery to level out. Do you have the Exynos or Snapdragon processor? What apps are reporting high battery use? Have you disabled any apps?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, but all of these things play a role in your battery life. I recommend GSAM battery monitor and Greenify with aggressive doze, but I will say that 50-60 hours is ambitious. I can usually get 25-30 hours with about 5 hours of SOT. That is with a combination of wifi, 4g, gps and Bluetooth on (android wear), some gaming and facebook, instagram, etc.
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Hi thanks for the reply, yeah its my fault i forgot to mention some information
I am using the Exynos model in Netherlands. the screen is always on the top of the list of the battery usage. im using gsam to monitor the battery and i dont think there is anything unusual there android system on the top using 25% or something. im really scared of using anything so it wont die on me outside today i was only navigating and doing some whatsapp calls on the 3g network "not even 4g". i only disabled facebook and using nova launcher and the AOD is off also. im not sure if i should send it back... how many days are we talking about for the battery to get better? i only want somehow a good battery not worse than my old grand prime. as i said i got it wendesday's evening and now its friday and its still bad
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Hi thanks for the reply, yeah its my fault i forgot to mention some information
I am using the Exynos model in Netherlands. the screen is always on the top of the list of the battery usage. im using gsam to monitor the battery and i dont think there is anything unusual there android system on the top using 25% or something. im really scared of using anything so it wont die on me outside today i was only navigating and doing some whatsapp calls on the 3g network "not even 4g". i only disabled facebook and using nova launcher and the AOD is off also. im not sure if i should send it back... how many days are we talking about for the battery to get better? i only want somehow a good battery not worse than my old grand prime. as i said i got it wendesday's evening and now its friday and its still bad
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If I'm reading correctly, you are losing about 60% in 5 hours? If so, that is definitely excessive even during the first 2 or 3 days unless the screen was on and the phone active the entire time. Can you post screen shots of you battery stats? Maybe some app is causing the problem, but is not being reported as using too much battery.
Some folks say that the different firmwares have different battery usage. Has yours updated?
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If I'm reading correctly, you are losing about 60% in 5 hours? If so, that is definitely excessive even during the first 2 or 3 days unless the screen was on and the phone active the entire time. Can you post screen shots of you battery stats? Maybe some app is causing the problem, but is not being reported as using too much battery.
Some folks say that the different firmwares have different battery usage. Has yours updated?
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ok someone told me to turn it off and charge to 100% so i dont have enough data now. but im doing a test now with pokemon go lol
the screen is on about 70% brightness wifi and gps are on and radio is off (i have low cell signal now) and music app playing in the background and now after 50 minutes i am at 89% with screen on all the time. do you think this is good or bad?
i just noticed something in most of the screen shots from other people gsam shows about 3.80v near the temperature but mine show 4.07v does this makes any difference?
That sounds normal for an hour of paying Pokemon Go. It's pretty battery intensive. That voltage is just the current battery charge. It'll drop as your battery percent drops.
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Hey guys.
So I noticed everyone here and anywhere else basically, complaining about the battery life on this phone after the MIUI 11 update so I used the debloater directly after getting the phone to have the best battery life possible.
Turned off all the suggested apps and services and I gotta say battery improved, but it wasn't what was promised by the phone's specs. I'm barely getting 4h SoT, without any heavy usage whatsoever, only social stuff.
The culprit for me as well has been the Android System, with over 40% drain every day. So I installed Accubatery to try and see what's happening with my battery, along with better battery stats.
What I found useful from the accubattery app is the permanent notification where it tells you, after a few seconds, how much mA will be drained in an hour of using the phone like the way you are using it at that moment. So I did a test. Had my phone on the home screen, doing nothing. After a few seconds the reading showed -180mA, which is awesome right? Then I locked my phone and left it at the always-on display for a minute or so. Unlocked it and the notification showed -980mA.
This is very VERY weird and I cannot find anything anywhere suggesting what anyone can do to combat this. I have more average battery drain when the screen is off than when the screen is on.
I have never reset my phone (and would like that to stay that way if possible) and the phone itself is a month old. It's really saddening to see other people are getting twice as much SoT.
Do you guys have any suggestions?
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Hey guys.
So I noticed everyone here and anywhere else basically, complaining about the battery life on this phone after the MIUI 11 update so I used the debloater directly after getting the phone to have the best battery life possible.
Turned off all the suggested apps and services and I gotta say battery improved, but it wasn't what was promised by the phone's specs. I'm barely getting 4h SoT, without any heavy usage whatsoever, only social stuff.
The culprit for me as well has been the Android System, with over 40% drain every day. So I installed Accubatery to try and see what's happening with my battery, along with better battery stats.
What I found useful from the accubattery app is the permanent notification where it tells you, after a few seconds, how much mA will be drained in an hour of using the phone like the way you are using it at that moment. So I did a test. Had my phone on the home screen, doing nothing. After a few seconds the reading showed -180mA, which is awesome right? Then I locked my phone and left it at the always-on display for a minute or so. Unlocked it and the notification showed -980mA.
This is very VERY weird and I cannot find anything anywhere suggesting what anyone can do to combat this. I have more average battery drain when the screen is off than when the screen is on.
I have never reset my phone (and would like that to stay that way if possible) and the phone itself is a month old. It's really saddening to see other people are getting twice as much SoT.
Do you guys have any suggestions?
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I was on Miui 11 for a few weeks and had ~8h SOT with AOD enabled all the time. Now I am on Pixel Experience and I have ~7.5h SOT without AOD so I am very satisfied with the battery life.
I advise you to wait for Miui 12, which will come very soon to the Mi 9T. Then everything will probably change again with the battery life...