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[IDEA] WM6.5 panel for multitasking

Wouldn't it be the end-all be-all solution if we had a 'panel' or whatever it's called, with wich you can switch and close applications? You could make switching the default clicking behaviour and assign closing to the right softkey.
I don't know how possible this is, but I thought it was worth saying...

graey said:
Wouldn't it be the end-all be-all solution if we had a 'panel' or whatever it's called, with wich you can switch and close applications? You could make switching the default clicking behaviour and assign closing to the right softkey.
I don't know how possible this is, but I thought it was worth saying...
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This is good, but the only problem I see is that on the same homescreen the HTC Task Manager taskbar icon is readily available on the top-right corner (on HTC devices).
Having said that, HTC Task Manager must be consuming some amount of RAM itself, whereas a single panel shouldn't take anywhere near as much RAM.

nuke1 said:
This is good, but the only problem I see is that on the same homescreen the HTC Task Manager taskbar icon is readily available on the top-right corner (on HTC devices).
Having said that, HTC Task Manager must be consuming some amount of RAM itself, whereas a single panel shouldn't take anywhere near as much RAM.
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Titanium holds up to 20 pages each panel.
Therefore you could have it show the 20 processes/tasks.
And swip left to right to switch between them,
and then press it to end them.
But honestly this would be more helpful for the background processes and not the items that are in the regular task manager.
I thought of something like this, but then thought what nuke said
and also thought of a few other things
that made me personally not want to develop this.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea, but I'll wait for someone else to come up with a good way to develop it.

actually this is an awesome Idea. We could get rid of the HTC Task Manager thus saving RAM. This will improve the overall feel and speed of HTC devices.

+1 for the Idea. It'd be very nice way to switch apps IMO.

rayraven said:
+1 for the Idea. It'd be very nice way to switch apps IMO.
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to switch apps yes,
to have it so you could close, no.
You'd still have to have a diff task manager.
I don't use htc task manager,
it sucks.
Doesn't get the background running processes that take up the ram that the other poster was talking about.
You can only have 20 pages, so to just have it act like htc task manager wouldn't be bad, but for the processes that I use a task manager for it's no bueno.

You could have it kill the task if you assigned the right soft key to that function.

ICS upgrade by Samsung

It has been confirmed now.
I was wondering how on-screen buttons are supposed to work alongside capacitive/physical buttons on the note?
... and other discussions.

I'm sure Samsung will touch wiz the onscreen buttons right out of the ROM...
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It's possible to remove onscreen buttons with default launcher.

If a device has physical buttons the on-screen buttons will not be used by ICS. This has been covered many times in reviews and direct statements from Google.
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galaxytab1 said:
It has been confirmed now.
I was wondering how on-screen buttons are supposed to work alongside capacitive/physical buttons on the note?
... and other discussions.
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It was confirmed a week ago.....

xAnimal5 said:
It was confirmed a week ago.....
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When i say now, it was setting up the context for further discussion and not breaking the news.

there is one on screen button i want them to keep in - the multitask button. that button would save me from having to use a task switcher app, and makes app/ram management a lot easier.
one thing i am curious about though, since ICS features the ability to freeze apps integrated into it, is it possible to freeze touchwiz and revert to generic ICS? (im a bit of a nubb as to the complexities of android).

Souai said:
there is one on screen button i want them to keep in - the multitask button. that button would save me from having to use a task switcher app, and makes app/ram management a lot easier.
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Maybe you know this and just don't think it's enough, but have you tried using the already built in multi tasking feature? Just long press the home button and a menu with shortcuts to your six most recent apps will appear. Here you can also enter the task manager to shut down apps and clear RAM
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Forget about that, touchwiz is full intigrated into the android framework. You cant even boot without it.
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BaconDanny said:
Maybe you know this and just don't think it's enough, but have you tried using the already built in multi tasking feature? Just long press the home button and a menu with shortcuts to your six most recent apps will appear. Here you can also enter the task manager to shut down apps and clear RAM
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i know about long press home, but that only shows recent apps, it doesnt tell you which ones are still open and which ones are closed. id rather have something that tells me which ones are running, rather than which ones ive used recently which may or may not still be running.
on my old n900, there was a visual task switcher built into the UI. tap the button, and it shows all active windows. you can see a preview of what each one is doing (including seeing a video play in realtime) and you can close each one directly from this screen, no need to go into a menu or three just to find out which ones are open and which ones are closed.
there was a visual task switcher on android that was similar, but it only runs on android up to froyo. the next best thing ive used on android is the smart task switcher, but it doesnt help that the only button i can assign it to on the galaxy note is the home key. on my atrix, i had it assigned to the search key. it also doesnt do previews like the n900, but it does tell you how much free ram you have.
call me picky, but from my experience, multitasking is one thing that nokia does better than android, even though nokia lacks a dual core device. hopefully the task switcher in ICS changes that.

Souai said:
i know about long press home, but that only shows recent apps, it doesnt tell you which ones are still open and which ones are closed. id rather have something that tells me which ones are running, rather than which ones ive used recently which may or may not still be running.
on my old n900, there was a visual task switcher built into the UI. tap the button, and it shows all active windows. you can see a preview of what each one is doing (including seeing a video play in realtime) and you can close each one directly from this screen, no need to go into a menu or three just to find out which ones are open and which ones are closed.
there was a visual task switcher on android that was similar, but it only runs on android up to froyo. the next best thing ive used on android is the smart task switcher, but it doesnt help that the only button i can assign it to on the galaxy note is the home key. on my atrix, i had it assigned to the search key. it also doesnt do previews like the n900, but it does tell you how much free ram you have.
call me picky, but from my experience, multitasking is one thing that nokia does better than android, even though nokia lacks a dual core device. hopefully the task switcher in ICS changes that.
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webos also has good multitasking.

You guys don't think Samsung will just place the multi task app for that?
Long press the home button and that should bring up the new ics app mananger. I think that would be the most logical route for them.
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Souai said:
i know about long press home, but that only shows recent apps, it doesnt tell you which ones are still open and which ones are closed.
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I'm confused... besides the recent apps, there's a task manager button there that does show only the open apps. Or is it just the fact that it's an extra button press?

The task manager shows the apps that are running. The pop-up (long press) is recently opened apps/fast task switcher. If you for example open the XDA app and exit from it, it will still be in the recently opened/fast switcher pop-up.

The videos I've seen of ICS running with Touchwiz has you just hold down the Home button to bring up the new multi-tasking app switcher menu or whatever you want to call it.

LordManhattan said:
The task manager shows the apps that are running...
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Right, and isn't that what they were asking for?

I answered your question.
"I'm confused... besides the recent apps, there's a task manager button there that does show only the open apps. Or is it just the fact that it's an extra button press?"

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I answered your question.
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Well, no, I'm still confused about what everyone's issue is.
You said:
The pop-up (long press) is recently opened apps/fast task switcher. If you for example open the XDA app and exit from it, it will still be in the recently opened/fast switcher pop-up.
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I understand that. But as I said in my original message:
besides the recent apps, there's a task manager button there that does show only the open apps.
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If you click that task manager button, it takes you to a screen that shows only the running apps, and lets you switch between them. Isn't that what people are wanting to do?

NV30 said:
It's possible to remove onscreen buttons with default launcher.
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should be and hope ne

dscline said:
I'm confused... besides the recent apps, there's a task manager button there that does show only the open apps. Or is it just the fact that it's an extra button press?
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you cant access the task manager in android from every screen, you need to go through a few screens to get to it. on ICS and on my nokia n900, you could get to it at the push of a button, makes multitasking much much easier and much much faster. faster is always better, just like if samsung's custom browser for the note used tabs like dolphin and firefox instead of the new window thing, im sure people would love it more.

UI Lag?

I've noticed that after pressing the home button and swiping between menues there is a VERY SMALL, yet noticeable lag. Sometimes the clock/weather widget reloads. It was like this out of the box the first day. Then you start swiping between homescreens and its gone and everything is smooth as butter literally.
I saw this in one of the review videos too. Hopefully a software update addresses this. Somewhat annoying as the phone has 2GB of memory.

MattMJB0188 said:
I've noticed that after pressing the home button and swiping between menues there is a VERY SMALL, yet noticeable lag. Sometimes the clock/weather widget reloads. It was like this out of the box the first day. Then you start swiping between homescreens and its gone and everything is smooth as butter literally.
I saw this in one of the review videos too. Hopefully a software update addresses this. Somewhat annoying as the phone has 2GB of memory.
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Same here... Swiping the home screen is smooth but returning to the home screen via the home button causes a 1 second delay...
I have also noticed the clock / weather widget refreshes when returning to home screen from apps at times...
Overall it's not big deal and I am sure it will be fixed in the next update...

yes~!!! this is one of the annoying parts of this phone.
it isn't performance related either. in nova launcher i have it set that pressing home when at the default screen brings up the app drawer. doing so causes the same fraction-of-a-second delay. but pressing the actual app drawer button on the screen is immediate. something in the Android software is causing this delay between button-push and action.

Thought it was just me.
I'm going to root it and flash ultimatum. Hopefully it gets rid of it.
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Thanks guys. Glad to see its not just my phone. Its by no means bad, just annoying. The home button needs to be more responsive. Hopefully in a software update. If this is all we have to worry about then I'm good.

Yea. Same goes for me, tried both apex and nova just to test if the lag depends on the launcher. I'm on apex now though, a bit less laggy than nova.
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Nova with fancy widgets (sense style clock) and voice disabled not really seeing any lag.

There is a setting you can turn off to fix this home button delay actually.
What you do is
1. Go to apps
2. Find "S-Voice" and open it
3. Hit settings button
4. In settings there is a option for "Launch S Voice" near the top of the settings.
5. Click the box to stop it from launching S-Voice when you hit the home button.
6. Now the home button works very quickly, no more second delay.

extreme11191986 said:
There is a setting you can turn off to fix this home button delay actually.
What you do is
1. Go to apps
2. Find "S-Voice" and open it
3. Hit settings button
4. In settings there is a option for "Launch S Voice" near the top of the settings.
5. Click the box to stop it from launching S-Voice when you hit the home button.
6. Now the home button works very quickly, no more second delay.
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That made a difference!!! Thanks.

extreme11191986 said:
there is a setting you can turn off to fix this home button delay actually.
What you do is
1. Go to apps
2. Find "s-voice" and open it
3. Hit settings button
4. In settings there is a option for "launch s voice" near the top of the settings.
5. Click the box to stop it from launching s-voice when you hit the home button.
6. Now the home button works very quickly, no more second delay.
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thank you
you are awesome.

The delay is there because if you double tap the home button it brings up SVoice, so it gives a small Window waiting for the second press before going to the home screen.
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There is still a lag after unchecking the S Voice launch option. I hope this can be fixed.

I wonder if the Exynos version has any noticeable lag or delay?

I actually completely disabled S-Voice and see no lag
Menu > Settings > Application Manager > All > S-Voice > Disable

stevieraveon said:
I actually completely disabled S-Voice and see no lag
Menu > Settings > Application Manager > All > S-Voice > Disable
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+1
If I wanted to be a "talking to your cell phone like its a person" douche I would have bought an iPhone. Keep your dignity and just type in whatever you're trying to do, it will probably take less time then getting the voice recognition to get it right
TW is pretty weak for a launcher though.. I put on my ol' trusty ADW launcher and no lag to be seen there..

altitude909 said:
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If I wanted to be a "talking to your cell phone like its a person" douche I would have bought an iPhone. Keep your dignity and just type in whatever you're trying to do, it will probably take less time then getting the voice recognition to get it right
TW is pretty weak for a launcher though.. I put on my ol' trusty ADW launcher and no lag to be seen there..
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The one and only thing I ever use android's voice recognition for -- and you don't even need S-Voice for this -- is setting alarms, because it's quicker than doing it manually and very accurate.
e.g.: "set alarm forty five minutes"

lol, didn't yall watch any reviews on Youtube? They stated there's a slight delay because it's waiting for a second press for S-Voice. I thought everyone knew that.

Not when pressing the home. When swiping through home screens. There is a slight delay. Its Ever so noticeable. More so when having a few widgets on the home screen.
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cmjkxa said:
Not when pressing the home. When swiping through home screens. There is a slight delay. Its Ever so noticeable. More so when having a few widgets on the home screen.
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Yep. It's only brief, then everything is smooth is butter.

Well, I have 3 home screens so I don't really care. I had 2 on my SGS2.

Task Manager (Background Apps)

I've noticed since upgrading that when I bring up my task manager to show my background apps I have to touch the app I want to go to 2 times instead of 1 time like I did previously. Is anyone else having this issue?

A single touch is required for me on MM as it was on LP.

I played with it some more and seems the sensitivity is not as good after the update. I have to press a bit harder to get it to work the upgrade.

Action memo problems?

To those who are having trouble with the action memo function of their Note 4, specifically writing a partial memo, then minimizing it to collect more info (or just keep it readily available until the task at hand was completed), and as soon as the note shrunk to that little yellow-ish square, it vanished? As if the system was treating it as a running process but forgot to actually display the minimized memo? This problem prevents you from just opening up another action memo because again, the system thinks "I'm sorry Dave. I know you want to use action memo, but it's already running." in order to get it to come back up again you have to either reboot, or you -might- be able to kill a few S Note-related processes and get it to come back up again.
This problem frustrated me quite a bit and I couldn't figure out what was causing the problem until recently during my toying with the developer settings, I decided it looked and felt much better when all three of the animations were turned down. The phone still showed a little eye candy, but got things done faster at the same time. All three of them set at .5 worked well for me. However, for some reason when those animation settings were set lower than 1, the action memo minimization animation would shrink (pleasantly) quickly into its little square, causing some kind of hiccup with the system and then it poofs. I fixed this problem by changing the animation settings to 1 for all three. Inconvenient, but I get my action memo back, which I use daily.
Just a tip I hadn't seen on the Note 4 forums that I wanted to add for any others experiencing the same issue and wondering how in the world to fix it.
Cheers!

Doesn't work for me on both 0.5/1x
It is an annoying issue.
If anyone else finds a solution to that, please post here.

So it still vanishes when you minimize action memo, even though your animation speeds are set to 1?