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Quad-core, 1GB ram + jellybean & widget menu lags everytime

Is this real life? Can't Samsung allocate some ram for it and cache it so I doesn't lag on start up everytime?

Isn't JB still unofficial?

Yes jellybean is still unofficial, but I still get this On ics

I just find it weird that I can play nova 3 flawlessly yet lag in the widgets menu. Samsung need to fix this.

Wait for official Jellybean.
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Aye. The widgets menu always lags. It's pretty annoying that a quad-core phone with 1GB of RAM can't handle such a simple task.

I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3

Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?

sohebq said:
I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3
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Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.

mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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Oh my god...Seriously?
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
mwatson said:
You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...

Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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mwatson said:
You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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This is why sometimes I hate xda -no offince-
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I agree wtf is the widget draw lagging for ' you'd think they'd alacate a touch of ram for some kind of stay in memory script like apex launcher does for launcher its simple really but Samsung devs suck [email protected] at common sense' hopefully they'll pull there finger out on official jb and nullify the (error) before a custom rom Dev writes a script to fix the issue and maybe they'll fix the grey cloud issue on lock screen with there much hyped ripple effect using black wallpapers ' this phone should not lagg, jerk,stutter or redraw period, p.s I luv my nearly perfect s3 rant over
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Toss3 said:
Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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I can compromise on smoothness because I know custom kernals and custom roms will handle that job pretty fine. All I want now is the bugs to be fixed, esp fc bugs.

Ausboy 2011 said:
Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.

mwatson said:
Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.
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S3 has a better quality screen, mine has zero lag and as of right now this is how my ram looks.
Audio is fixed in the JB leaks.
You just don't know how to set yours up right is all.
"You come at the king, you best not miss." - Omar Little.

MuertoKo said:
If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...
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I don't think the way you do about your comment. I do agree with him about what he said that the s2 runs better because I actually compared them both and the s2 runs faster and smoother. Also it is useless when you say "it runs well, its smooth as hell..." when you are trying to justify a comparison.. The s3 does run well, and it is smooth (well not really) but comparing it to the s2 we get the s2 as a winner. Try looking at the ram usage for the s3 and the s2, the s3 is almost always locked at 470+ and maximum is 780, the s2 with recently cleared memory has 200 mbs of ram used, and can reach up to 800.
So don't attack him just because you are too self righteous about your opinion. He has a point.

Android isn't really optimised for muli-core, only one can be used at any time. The SII runs better as it's lighter with less bloatware, don't buy a phone purely for the fact it has great specs because until Android can fully utilise all 4 cores you're no better off than someone who has 2.
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projectbutter makes the s3 amazing

I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!

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I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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The official version is indeed better than the leaks we got earlier, and gives me hope that the later versions are going to be even better, not to mention 4.1.2 and 4.2.

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I have both. I think that the SGS3 was already faster on ICS than the gnexus on JB. The gnexus is slower to load apps and lag a lot on places like the widgets menu.

I can only recommend Paranoid Android on the S3, I'm simply amazed by this ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745003

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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That's your opinion. I've tried both, and the S3 is faster, and better imo.

Certainly on AOSP it is without a doubt, ill always choose AOSP first and foremost now there can be no going back to Sammy ROM's only as a secondary ROM, i can live without FM Radio (i always use Tune in Radio PRO anyway much better highly recommended app) and other small things you don't get IN AOSP the good far outweighs the bad.

I have to agree Project Butter is a lot better than in the leaks, but there is optimization to do, like the widgets draw, which still lags until it is fully pulled into memory.
I can't wait to see what the updates have to offer.

And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!

Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.

supernexus build 5 is a winner

russeini said:
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
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while on ics i used ex dialer, on JB it still loads slowish but it takes 1 sec rather than 4 for me and im fine with that so i stopped using ex dialer for now.

I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I completely agree i owned various devices and always used Asop or akop. But on this phone, if you use asop or akop you miss the features on the phone. So i tend to stick to stock all the time simply because i need most of the features.

hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I always switch between Sammy and AOSP for this reason but now with dual-boot I have the best of both world.
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Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
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No need to go to Samsung, you are on XDA. All the experts are here. I'm not an expert but I would say to just flash another ROM or Modem.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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He he he silly dual-core
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Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I don't agree I think it's on par at the least...
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Wow! Google should have never brought project butter up in the first place. Now we have some weirdos having a weird placebo effect thinking that the GS3 firmware does not incorporate PB when it would be absolutely retarded and more difficult for Samsung to take it out of the source code and add in half butter. That is like the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. No developer would rewrite PB to operate at half.
There is a possibility that touchwiz animations do not look as smooth as AOSP animations to some eyes but I highly HIGHLY doubt it that they would change the genetic code. lol
People need to stop tripping or otherwise Google is not going to even bring up any transition improvements to prevent this crap from happening to their OEMs that use Android skins.

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And your post seems like one from a fanboy who tries to hide the reality.
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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scoffyburito said:
I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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Will I still get all the goodies like 60 fps and other stuff on nova launcher instead of touchwiz?

Why is the S-Note app soooo slow? Any way to speed it up?

I like the default S-Note app, if it wasn't for the INCREDIBLE slowness of it, on an otherwise very fast phone.
Why is it taking like two seconds to open a note, save it, etc.?
Anybody have an idea if its operations could be sped up somehow?

I totally agree with you on this; I think it hasn't been written properly. The devs should do something about it.
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have to agree, its not nearly as fast as the rest of the phone

I just keep thinking there must be some glitch, which is causing it to misbehave, as it pauses without a reason, and it's not the phone slowness...
If we would find out how to make it faster, it would make for a definitely a much better experience.
Perhaps people who flash the latest ROMs could chime in here, if they see a marked improvement in S-Note speed...

aegeuss said:
I totally agree with you on this; I think it hasn't been written properly. The devs should do something about it.
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I´m sure you didn´t meant it this way, but just to make that clear: It is not that any dev should do something about it...
--> someone may kindly ask if there is a dev out there, that want to sacrifice his free time for this!

Yeah, definitely slow.
I'm assuming it's just because it's kind of new, and it will be faster with newer releases.
That was one of the first things I noticed when I first got the phone. Everything else is fast!
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Yeah, I'm agree with you.. Love this apps but hate the slow response when opening and saving.. Hope they will fixed this on the next update firmware..

yup, kinda slow here as well.

Opening and saving a note takes alot of time in here aswell. No change to that even if I flashed ARHD 4.0 and redpill kernel. Also if I zoom in the S-note and write by handwriting the lines are drawn extremely slow and nonresponsively. Would be great it samsung would address these issues with S-note in the future updates.

brooon said:
I´m sure you didn´t meant it this way, but just to make that clear: It is not that any dev should do something about it...
--> someone may kindly ask if there is a dev out there, that want to sacrifice his free time for this!
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There's a misunderstanding here, when I said devs I meant the original program developers not the ones here in Xda.
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Its got something to do with sucky ram management in touchwiz.
The main apps which are supposed to be in the RAM all the time like dialer and s note are on least priority
Lose hope that Samsung will do something about it...they're customer care is poor.
Sadly though, bear with it or use a different app

I'm sure it has nothing to do with RAM management. Some opening / saving operations are slowing it down, or are wrongly implemented.
This when app is in memory, so it has nothing to do with swapping in out of memory, and thus Touchwiz.

I don't think too that this slowness of the app is related to the poor ram management.
If You use another note taking app You could see that this is very fast and responsive.
The major lag of the original Snote app is when You tap to create a new note and when You swith the pen to different tools or color.
Hope that Samsung could improove it in next Firmware:silly:

Jamal Ahmed said:
Its got something to do with sucky ram management in touchwiz.
The main apps which are supposed to be in the RAM all the time like dialer and s note are on least priority
Lose hope that Samsung will do something about it...they're customer care is poor.
Sadly though, bear with it or use a different app
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Please don't give out false information. Opinions are for everyone but dont make them out to be facts.
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s note in my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is very slow, It take up to 30 seconds to open note or action memo. Any solution?. The other functions of phone are goid.

I forgot I have S-Note app LOL
Google Keep is the answer

Ste97 said:
I forgot I have S-Note app LOL
Google Keep is the answer
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You can't write with the pen in google keep...

[Q] Removing TouchWiz.

I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.

Yeah flashing a rom will do it
But try nova launcher first

spectheintro said:
I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
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Try a custom kernel also. Most do see a smoother experience after switching. Otherwise just do a nandroid and flash some custom ones. Then can always revert back if needed.

I feel ya on this phone. I came from a 2 yr old galaxy s2 and this thing runs worse than it did. Wonder why this super spec phone is so glitchy. Time to flash rom should fix it.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow

I don't want to bother with rooting so switching to Nova Launcher Prime made my S4 experience so much better.

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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I would think the average consumer would notice. The lag is considerable out of the box however it seems to not be 100% of the devices. Some have reported smooth operation since day one. Mine was not smooth but very laggy. The MDL didn't get rid of it and Samsung really needs to get on the stick and should be embarrassed to release the device in that state. Obviously I fixed the lag but with the specs it should of been smooth as silk out of the box. Personally I don't think Touchwiz is the issue but lack of optimization of the features.
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If it is fixable by flashing a custom kernel/rom or custom launcher (reported by some) than don't see how it can be a faulty phone. Not by way of hardware anyways.

Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc

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Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.

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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms

Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?

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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
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That is why i specifically said "not bad hardware wise anyways" since many are fixing it by flashing custom.
I do see the point you are trying to make and not trying to create an argument so please don't think that. You are lucky to get a smooth running phone right out of the box. :good:

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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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For starters I disabled some features. Went into svoice and disabled double tap home button. to open svoice. That adds lag to returning to home as it waits a few ms waiting for 2nd tap. Rooted of course and debloated the rom did a lot. No swype! Its laggy on everything. Plus a few days gone by and kernel & everything just setteling in. I have not flashed kernel or messed with cpu. Speeding up animations I've always felt it makes phone really glitchy so I leave it at 1.
Edit greenify also. disabled few apps like The Score that runs always. Greenify is a must. It should come stock
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lag for ever....

hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??

hajyihia said:
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
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The recent button delay is true. It's there and I haven't seen a way to fix it yet but this is the only one. The phone should perform outstanding in every way.
There's even a speed test video of the exynos version against the iphone 6+ and the note is right up there even with ultra heavy TW.
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If you are planning on buying it in only 6 months, you'll have plenty of time to research, go to the store check it for yourself, play with your friend's device and there will be tons of videos comparing the note with other phones.

gabrielgon said:
The recent button delay is true. It's there and I haven't seen a way to fix it yet but this is the only one. The phone should perform outstanding in every way.
There's even a speed test video of the exynos version against the iphone 6+ and the note is right up there even with ultra heavy TW.
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If you are planning on buying it in only 6 months, you'll have plenty of time to research, go to the store check it for yourself, play with your friend's device and there will be tons of videos comparing the note with other phones.
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the thing is i had galaxy S2 for about 20 months, now i have S4 for a year, the note 4 doesnt look that better in the day to day performance...its the same TW...i checked htc one m8 but the camera is really bad, xperia z3...its ui looks outdated, G3...they say it lags and the battery not that good, thats the problem there is really no complete phone....note 4 is the best all around...but that lag when switching between apps kills it just like my S4....

dont buy it.
you sound like the type of person that finds faults with everything.

This is what custom roms are for, the phone itself is a powerhouse but Samsung insists that it keeps using its laggy TW on everything, put stock android on it and i bet the thing would fly.

As stated above, it seems like you do find fault in every single thing. But yes, the Note 4 lags because well touchwiz lags. I went to multiple bestbuy to try it out and it is the same touchwiz lag. But of course, upon placing other launchers and some tweaks (assuming you are going to root) all should be well.

I understand you man, I want the perfect phone too! But sadly, they are not computers which you can choose every single component of it. So you need to research and you'll find the one that best suits your needs. The note 4 will be FAR better than your s4. Faster, bigger battery, better camera, insane ppi, bigger screen.... You can flash a new rom, use a different launcher, apply tweaks or wait for the next nexus which will be huge and pure android. There are tons of options out there

mgbotoe said:
As stated above, it seems like you do find fault in every single thing. But yes, the Note 4 lags because well touchwiz lags. I went to multiple bestbuy to try it out and it is the same touchwiz lag. But of course, upon placing other launchers and some tweaks (assuming you are going to root) all should be well.
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Yes, im using Nova and customised my Note 4 for a bit, and now for me it's great~
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hajyihia said:
the thing is i had galaxy S2 for about 20 months, now i have S4 for a year, the note 4 doesnt look that better in the day to day performance...its the same TW...i checked htc one m8 but the camera is really bad, xperia z3...its ui looks outdated, G3...they say it lags and the battery not that good, thats the problem there is really no complete phone....note 4 is the best all around...but that lag when switching between apps kills it just like my S4....
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This is android... u can modify or customise it at all time. Once u did, u will tell the difference. There is no perfect hardware and neither software, but Android gives u a freedom platform to configure your own phone. This is the reason why people choose Android.

wase4711 said:
dont buy it.
you sound like the type of person that finds faults with everything.
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^^^^^^
This.
Good Lord, the phone's not even in many people's hands yet. Phones on the floor of a super-store like Best Buy are horrible examples to go by. My BB has them all running in demo mode which tells you nothing but, assuming other BB's have them running in "real" mode, who knows what kind of crap's been loaded on them and how many people have screwed with the settings. According to people on its forum my Note 3 lags horribly. News to me and I've had it for a year with 152 apps running on it.
As for the G3, please. It never should have been released with S-801/QHD, it throttles to save battery, and still gets absolutely awful battery life anyway. I can't see how the Note 4 (or any S-805 and up phone) could possibly do worse.

thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait

Try disabling svoice

It's called Turbo Lag. :silly:

hajyihia said:
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
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If that lag you speak of happens when you "long press" the home button
(recent apps) then it's not really a lag at all, it only seems like it due to the
fact that the home button needs a long press to bring up the recent apps.
The solution for this is to get rid of the default touchwiz launcher and
get a launcher which has the option of re-assigning the home/back/menu
keys so after the "recent apps" are assigned to use the "menu softkey" or
the "back softkey" using a single click then you will find no more lags in
bringing up the "recent apps" or switching tasks.
Good luck!

hajyihia said:
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
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By then you will be in an s6 thread nitpicking something else. Good luck...
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BigJPNut said:
By the you will be in an s6 thread nitpicking something else. Good luck...
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listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....

hajyihia said:
listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
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First your not even buying a phone for half a year lol. Its been said dozens of times, if not hundreds that this version of TW is cleaned up and smoother then ever...geez! Just read.This is arguably the most powerful and fastest phone to date. Every phone has some sort of lag somewhere in the UI..get a grip. Like i said, im sure ill see you in the s6 thread crying about something else long before you reach in your pocket to finally upgrade...good luck
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hajyihia said:
listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
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Not every TW user. I have a Note 2 that I am fairly happy with, and don't really notice lag. Its a matter of if you focus on it, you will notice it.
Maybe Samsung isn't for you if your not happy with it. There are other options.

I'm sure if you take a close look at the note4 you can see it has a back,home and recents button. sorry about that just though i should correct that. It doesn't use home button long press. That said, I saw android authority review of it and did not see any lag that Op speaks of.
Misterjunky said:
If that lag you speak of happens when you "long press" the home button
(recent apps) then it's not really a lag at all, it only seems like it due to the
fact that the home button needs a long press to bring up the recent apps.
The solution for this is to get rid of the default touchwiz launcher and
get a launcher which has the option of re-assigning the home/back/menu
keys so after the "recent apps" are assigned to use the "menu softkey" or
the "back softkey" using a single click then you will find no more lags in
bringing up the "recent apps" or switching tasks.
Good luck!
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BarryH_GEG said:
^^^^^^
This.
Good Lord, the phone's not even in many people's hands yet. Phones on the floor of a super-store like Best Buy are horrible examples to go by. My BB has them all running in demo mode which tells you nothing but, assuming other BB's have them running in "real" mode, who knows what kind of crap's been loaded on them and how many people have screwed with the settings. According to people on its forum my Note 3 lags horribly. News to me and I've had it for a year with 152 apps running on it.
As for the G3, please. It never should have been released with S-801/QHD, it throttles to save battery, and still gets absolutely awful battery life anyway. I can't see how the Note 4 (or any S-805 and up phone) could possibly do worse.
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Totally agree with you!

hajyihia said:
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
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i think u are the only one who wouldnt buy it..