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I just picked my first Xperia it's the X10i will be using on Tmobile USA, I love Android but am not fond of the Sony software on the phone, I'm planning on having it rooted today to 2.1
Just wanted to get any opinions of those of you who have rooted X10
Thanks
i had mine rooted for about 3 days, but due to there being a problem with installing apps form sd card after root, i soon flashed it back,,,i do miss my root programs thou,
I like the Phone, I don't like all the Sony software, I prefer the Google experience style Android if that makes sense.
Bargsbeer said:
...rooted today to 2.1...
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Good luck trying.
I do like my moxierless phone a lot.
Bargsbeer said:
I just picked my first Xperia it's the X10i will be using on Tmobile USA, I love Android but am not fond of the Sony software on the phone, I'm planning on having it rooted today to 2.1
Just wanted to get any opinions of those of you who have rooted X10
Thanks
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Are you sure is a X10i? I think is a X10a, check it to be sure.
You can root your phone but... to Android 1.6-R2BA026. Read the android development section for X10 before you make a mistake and fall to the yellow triangle or to a brick phone.
I like my root for only 2 reasons, apps that require root ( Titanium Backup, ShootMe...) and because I have removed all the apps that I dont need/want. And thats it, I dont want any half working custom ROM solutions since all of them on other phones have some things that dont work at all or barely work. Hope this 2.1 will be rooted when it is out and I will be happy.
Yes its.the x10i im typing this.on it now Tmobile 3G works.
I was under the impression it could be.rooted to android 2.1???
If not can i atleast have it rooted to get rid of all the sony software?
Bargsbeer said:
I was under the impression it could be.rooted to android 2.1???
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Not sure where you got that from.
Bargsbeer said:
If not can i atleast have it rooted to get rid of all the sony software?
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Have a read of this thread - forum.xda-developers.com
The X10 is a great piece of hardware. SE's software on the other hand leaves alot to be desired. Root is perfect as you can have the gear without the crap. R2BA026 is also a wonderful firmware, and far better than the 016 firmware that Rogers is still stuck at.
saltorio said:
The X10 is a great piece of hardware. SE's software on the other hand leaves alot to be desired. Root is perfect as you can have the gear without the crap. R2BA026 is also a wonderful firmware, and far better than the 016 firmware that Rogers is still stuck at.
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Forgive me for my ignorance, I don't know much about rooting. I'm actually going to pay someone to root it for me. If what I have read so far is correct I can root it to 1.6 and at the same time remove all the Sony software crap and just keep the google/Android stuff?
Thanks
Bargsbeer said:
Forgive me for my ignorance, I don't know much about rooting. I'm actually going to pay someone to root it for me. If what I have read so far is correct I can root it to 1.6 and at the same time remove all the Sony software crap and just keep the google/Android stuff?
Thanks
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Yep. No matter what you do at this point, you're stuck with Android 1.6. Rooting doesn't change that (at this point in time). What rooting does is allow you access to the OS files themselves, and thereby you can remove the apps you don't want (which can't be uninstalled normally as they are part of SE's base OS on the X10).
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Yep. No matter what you do at this point, you're stuck with Android 1.6. Rooting doesn't change that (at this point in time). What rooting does is allow you access to the OS files themselves, and thereby you can remove the apps you don't want (which can't be uninstalled normally as they are part of SE's base OS on the X10).
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I could deal with 1.6 as long as I can remove the sony crap. Another question I have had the Nexus 1 rooted and G1 Rooted both I paid someone to do, I heard the X10 is easy to brick is this true or just like anything you try to root there is always a risk?
After having root and learning a couple things I wouldn't go back. As for 2.1 not yet. The dev community is going straight to 2.2.
Why would you pay? Learn how to do it yourself. It takes time, patience and following instructions properly.
The upsides to root right now. You can un-SE your phone (changing themes and removing apps). But if you don't know how to root your phone you wont know how to mod your phone to your liking.
gavriel18 said:
Learn how to do it yourself. It takes time, patience and following instructions properly.
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+1. I love having mine rooted, and wouldn't look back. I joined the forum as I was new to Android and wanted to learn how to customize my phone to my liking, and still learning new things, tips and tricks.
just fyi...the X10 is almost impossible to brick, one thing you can thank SE for
Thanks for all the responses, This makes me way more comfortable. I love the hardware it's a beast of a phone. This is all a learning process for me I had a Nexus One that I eventually learned how to install ROMs with ROM manager, I'm hoping in time with the X10 I can do the same.
Just curious what SE apps or programs do all advise deleting?
rvictorg said:
just fyi...the X10 is almost impossible to brick, one thing you can thank SE for
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Yeah, even the guys who developed the root method didn't actually brick the X10 as they tried to crack it, from what I remember reading. The worst is that you get the yellow exclamation mark and then have to re-do the first step in the root method to bring you back to the original release firmware (016 iirc, or maybe 014).
I definitely agree with some of the other posters that you're much better off doing it yourself. Once you learn how it's pretty straightforward, and with new firmwares being released pretty often you won't want to pay someone every time to update your firmware.
Just read the root instructions a few times, make sure to download the files before you start, and take your time.
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I like the Phone, I don't like all the Sony software, I prefer the Google experience style Android if that makes sense.
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The sony software is what makes the X10 an X10, why would you even want the phone then, besides its good looks ?
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I could deal with 1.6 as long as I can remove the sony crap. Another question I have had the Nexus 1 rooted and G1 Rooted both I paid someone to do, I heard the X10 is easy to brick is this true or just like anything you try to root there is always a risk?
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The X10 and the Nexus One are identical in terms of its hardware, minus the camera MP. The Nexus One is a great learning tool for rooting and modifying an Android because its the closest you can get to Android OS straight up and Google allowed you to unlock the bootloader. I rooted the X10 as soon as it was made available and it was just as easy. I did get the yellow exclamation mark and getting it fixed was easy to.
Definitely, definitely root the phone yourself and learn things yourself, otherwise, get an iPhone and let Steve Jobs control your phone for you.
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The sony software is what makes the X10 an X10, why would you even want the phone then, besides its good looks ?
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Maybe it's the best phone your carrier offers (such as with Rogers), and you couldn't afford a new phone contract-free? Maybe you like the look? Maybe you wanted a phone with a 4" display and 8MP camera? There are lots of reasons to want the X10... the SE software is just one of them.
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The X10 and the Nexus One are identical in terms of its hardware, minus the camera MP.
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Not quite. Different amount of RAM, different amount of phone storage, different screen size, screen resolution, and touch digitizer.
I'm putting this in general because there is no Q&A, why is that?
I'm going to be receiving the x-former in a couple of days, and I just wan to know where to start.
Should I just leave it alone, or root?
Should I custom ROM it up?
I also have a Samsung Captivate with CyanogenMod 7, currently in nightly. My point is I'm not new to the android game, I just want your opinion, is there and need to bring my x-former to the dark side, or is it already capable enough?
I would suggest you try it out for a while and see if you need to root it. Unlike my phones and Nook, I have found no reason to root my transformer.
Hi!
Before receiving it I thought that first thing I'd be doing upon receiving my TF was going to be get it rooted. Actually I haven't needed rooting it until now.
I'd recommended you updated it OTA to 3.1 if necessary and then simply enjoying it. If time comes that make you think you need rooting then go ahead.
Enjoy yur new TF.
Regards.
I like the other posters, Have not rooted or Modded my Transformer. I was a big G Tablet user/fan, but the Transformer blows it away for about the same Retail Price. The stock 3.1 (Via OTA update) really makes this a great tablet. I have not seen any reason for me to ROOT (Other than Supplament WIFI for Ad-Hoc teathering) and maybe CWM Backup. I am going to wait for a while for things to settle down before I go down the Alternate ROMS path. The G tablet was different as it was useless out of the box.
CalvinH said:
Hi!
Before receiving it I thought that first thing I'd be doing upon receiving my TF was going to be get it rooted. Actually I haven't needed rooting it until now.
I'd recommended you updated it OTA to 3.1 if necessary and then simply enjoying it. If time comes that make you think you need rooting then go ahead.
Enjoy yur new TF.
Regards.
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Thanks! My thought has been to just try it, but knowing that I would put a ROM on it, but the Transformer seem solid on its own, from what I have read.
Starting to second guess rooting.
How is this possible, a non rooted android device in MY hands... crazy.
Update to 3.1, find good honeycomb apps (the thread in the apps/theme forum can be very usefull) then enjoy.
Right now, rooting the TF isn't nearly as interesting as it is for phones.
Oh and there's various dual battery widget specificaly made for the TF wich display the battery left in the dock (wich you cannot see otherwise), i suggest you grab one as soon as you can.
kokusho said:
Update to 3.1, find good honeycomb apps (the thread in the apps/theme forum can be very usefull) then enjoy.
Right now, rooting the TF isn't nearly as interesting as it is for phones.
Oh and there's various dual battery widget specificaly made for the TF wich display the battery left in the dock (wich you cannot see otherwise), i suggest you grab one as soon as you can.
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Not getting, at-least yet. I'm just a poor 16 year-old kid, the dock put me out of my budget. Ill hopefully get it later!
aaaww
How sad! the dock is awesome.
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How sad! the dock is awesome.
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Yep, that's my thought, but hell, I gotta look at the bright side, I did get 400 bucks for it in one day! (My family is AWESOME!)
jerrykur said:
I would suggest you try it out for a while and see if you need to root it. Unlike my phones and Nook, I have found no reason to root my transformer.
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I agree,
I had a htc desire and rooted it because I wanted to overclock the CPU to save battery, but I don't think thats necessary with the transformer.
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...
New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.
Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.
well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.
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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.
ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
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ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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BrianDigital said:
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.
tumpy said:
A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all
I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.
lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking
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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already
Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.
Hello guys, i am thinking of changing my motorola razr maxx into galaxy s3 and i would like to ask if it stands up to the price?
Is it good phone or not?
And i found one used for 3-4 months by a guy and it is reasonably priced and still looks shiny (no scratches and stuff). So the question is what i should check before i hand over the money for the phone, so i don't get scammed by broken or in any other way ruined device?
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Hello guys, i am thinking of changing my motorola razr maxx into galaxy s3 and i would like to ask if it stands up to the price?
Is it good phone or not?
And i found one used for 3-4 months by a guy and it is reasonably priced and still looks shiny (no scratches and stuff). So the question is what i should check before i hand over the money for the phone, so i don't get scammed by broken or in any other way ruined device?
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The S3 is an awesome phone, and well worth the price imo.
Some things to check before you buy it is the obvious, will it switch on, are there any signs of physical damage ect, but you should also check your own sim card in the phone, if for example the phone is stolen and has been reported to the network your sim will not work in the phone.
Give it a good check over to make sure everything works, all you can't really check is battery life, because that requires time. Also check under Settings > About Phone > Status, and check whether it says the system has been modified. Then switch it off, hold Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt and check what the red writing says in the top corner, if it says Custom binary downloaded yes (xx counts) ask what they have flashed.
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The S3 is an awesome phone, and well worth the price imo.
Some things to check before you buy it is the obvious, will it switch on, are there any signs of physical damage ect, but you should also check your own sim card in the phone, if for example the phone is stolen and has been reported to the network your sim will not work in the phone.
Give it a good check over to make sure everything works, all you can't really check is battery life, because that requires time. Also check under Settings > About Phone > Status, and check whether it says the system has been modified. Then switch it off, hold Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt and check what the red writing says in the top corner, if it says Custom binary downloaded yes (xx counts) ask what they have flashed.
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Thanks for the fast reply. But you mentioned if system have been modified to check it by holding Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt. If system is modified what kind of impact on user experience could it have? For example: Will i be able to go back so stock or flash any rom i want or maybe it could limit me in some ways?
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Thanks for the fast reply. But you mentioned if system have been modified to check it by holding Vol down, home and power then press vol up at the prompt. If system is modified what kind of impact on user experience could it have? For example: Will i be able to go back so stock or flash any rom i want or maybe it could limit me in some ways?
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You can go to stock, and if it has been modified I would flash something if you choose to buy it because you have no idea what he has put on it, even if it's a reputable rom or kernel he could have some script in it, I know it's a little paranoid but it's better to be safe than sorry
Of course the battery life will not satisfy you if you come from RAZR maxx but it has the most longest (well at least longer than other competitors ) battery life. Oh and performance is voila . And the s4 is releasing up coming days. So that means s3 turns into cost/performance device. So you should definitely upgrade to s3
Btw if there is a mistake with my grammar or other stuff please ignore it
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It is indeed a Power House with Custom ROM / Custom Kernel and Tweaking....
Give it a shot and u won't regret it....
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Thanks guys for your opinions, i will surely upgrade to s3, so it is good to know that it is a good device. The only thing left now is to find best offer :good: and not get scammed :highfive:.
One of you guys mentioned that switching from Razr Maxx will leave me sad i think i can handle it as long as it is better than that of xperia x10 or htc desire S that i owned (they were very bad at it). However maxx lost its touch to me couse of Unlockable Bootloader and all the security features that doesnt allow to root new Jellybean update..... Which sickens me as a ROM addict the most :laugh:, The main reason that i want to leave razr is actually that i upgraded to jellybean and lost root after keeping it with Voodoo ota rootkeeper so my device is now unrootable and it is worst thing that could happen to Android device
BTW which one in reality looks more awesome, the black or white colors on s3? Just asking couse i havent seen black one in person,i have seen only the white model.
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Thanks guys for your opinions, i will surely upgrade to s3, so it is good to know that it is a good device. The only thing left now is to find best offer :good: and not get scammed :highfive:.
One of you guys mentioned that switching from Razr Maxx will leave me sad i think i can handle it as long as it is better than that of xperia x10 or htc desire S that i owned (they were very bad at it). However maxx lost its touch to me couse of Unlockable Bootloader and all the security features that doesnt allow to root new Jellybean update..... Which sickens me as a ROM addict the most :laugh:, The main reason that i want to leave razr is actually that i upgraded to jellybean and lost root after keeping it with Voodoo ota rootkeeper so my device is now unrootable and it is worst thing that could happen to Android device
BTW which one in reality looks more awesome, the black or white colors on s3? Just asking couse i havent seen black one in person,i have seen only the white model.
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http://www.itproportal.com/2012/08/29/samsung-galaxy-s3-launched-in-4-new-colours/
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The white one is better. I have the pebble blue one and it got dust under the screen and it's very noticeable while on the white you can't see it.
For the battery just get the official 3000mah extended battery. I'm getting amazing battery life!
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And I have a small suggestion - after you put your own sim-card make a phone call to somebody and check how you can hear the person and if the other person can hear you well.
Heh just got myself and S3 Got it for good price and its brand new :victory: , anyway thanks for suggestions guys :highfive:.
Any suggestions for roms kernels? BTW is it possible to unlock bootloader? and is there easy way to root or i will have to use ADB manually? <---- Mod Edit: Please don't turn this into a "Best ROM" thread or it will have to be shut down.
Heh just got myself and S3 Got it for good price and its brand new :victory: , anyway thanks for suggestions guys :highfive:. <br />
Any suggestions for roms kernels? BTW is it possible to unlock bootloader? and is there easy way to root or i will have to use ADB manually?
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The bootloader is not locked.
Check the original development for cf auto root to root via Odin.
On the ROM side I personally like Ultima, slim bean and CM10.1 but check them yourself, see which sounds good to you, check the last 10 posts and try the ones that seem best for you.
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The rule he meant was the rule saying no best rom/kernel threads just asking can annoy people, but I'm not a **** like Glebun so I still try to help you
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Well anyway, i have found this toolkit for s3 and rooted my device with installing custom recovery and installing root.zip. The tools seems very easy to use and has a lot of features aswell. However i am not in a hurry to unlock bootloader just yet. Maybe you know any debloated stock roms? Couse default one feels kinda slugish atm.
And BTW why there are two development sections? Shouldn't android development section be same as original development?
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Well anyway, i have found this toolkit for s3 and rooted my device with installing custom recovery and installing root.zip. The tools seems very easy to use and has a lot of features aswell. However i am not in a hurry to unlock bootloader just yet. Maybe you know any debloated stock roms? Couse default one feels kinda slugish atm.
And BTW why there are two development sections? Shouldn't android development section be same as original development?
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As I said the S3 bootloader doesn't need unlocking, there are a few debloated stock roms, the ones I would reccomend are Omega, Wanamlite and Ultima all can be found in the Android Development.
There are two development sections, Origianal development is mainly for projects build from source or from scratch, for example the offcial CM threads are there, Slimbean is in there, there are also threads for the various kernels, but unofficial CM, AOKP etc ports and samsung based roms are in development because they are not original.
"Best ROM" threads are NOT against the rules. They do always however turn into pissing matches and ultimately flaming starts shortly after. That is why the are frowned upon and closed.
Rules #1 is Search. You can look in the Development section and see which one you think you might like. Then read the last 10 pages for bugs. If that it the one you like, then start at the OP and read, read, read.
Development is for developing something that is of a base ROM, (i.e. stick ROM base)
Original Development is for building from source (i.e. setting up a build environment on your PC and syncing repos).
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I'd like to also mention Rule # 2.3
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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And Rule #10
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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Garreth88 said:
And I have a small suggestion - after you put your own sim-card make a phone call to somebody and check how you can hear the person and if the other person can hear you well.
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What it means? When I bought my phone I didn't hear the other person well. If the volume was more than half I didn't understand what they said. But now it ok. Can I ask you what you want to say?
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Ever phone or tablet I buy is always the one that cant be rooted without a pc. Everytime Odin required, so sick of it. I thought they were supposed to make a universal platform that all androids adhered to. What happened to that?
smokeuout said:
Ever phone or tablet I buy is always the one that cant be rooted without a pc. Everytime Odin required, so sick of it. I thought they were supposed to make a universal platform that all androids adhered to. What happened to that?
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Name a current device that doesn't need a PC to be rooted? Is that not universal enough?
ashyx said:
Name a current device that doesn't need a PC to be rooted? Is that not universal enough?
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No thats not universal enough. Go through the compatability list for framaroot, or master root and that will give your answer. I just want my phones to be on the same level. All on that list or not but there shouldnt be an in between
smokeuout said:
No thats not universal enough. Go through the compatability list for framaroot, or master root and that will give your answer. I just want my phones to be on the same level. All on that list or not but there shouldnt be an in between
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Ok humour me. Show me evidence of one device that either of those root exploits has been successful with since Android 5.
ashyx said:
Ok humour me. Show me evidence of one device that either of those root exploits has been successful with since Android 5.
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Okay but how am I going to show proof? Those one click root apps wouldnt be around if they didnt work...Look at towelroot as well, and also kingroot. Lots of options even though I have no proof
smokeuout said:
Okay but how am I going to show proof? Those one click root apps wouldnt be around if they didnt work...Look at towelroot as well, and also kingroot. Lots of options even though I have no proof
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Rooting a tablet is a security risk that manufacturers don't WANT users to take. They want rooting to be difficult. So, IMO, it is down right silly to think they'd intentionally let some apps, like the ones you mentioned, defeat their purpose. And NONE of those apps work on a high percentage of the tablets on the market today.
If having a tablet that can be rooted by one of them is that important to you, then I'd suggest you check the list BEFORE you make your purchase rather than whining about it when they don't work.
smokeuout said:
Okay but how am I going to show proof? Those one click root apps wouldnt be around if they didnt work...Look at towelroot as well, and also kingroot. Lots of options even though I have no proof
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They DON'T work that is the point. The fact that you actually mentioned towel root implies that you've been trawling the Internet and you don't quite know where things are up to with root.
Those exploits have long since been patched. Pretty much no one click root's work on any recent device.
Google have patched all current exploits. Any decent manufacturer should have updated their firmware to include the patches.
Anything MM onwards is unlikely to work with one of these one click root apps.
Any device that does simply means the manufacturer doesn't care about security or has abandoned the device.
My point here is that pretty much no device works with any of these one click root's anymore.
You have a device made by a manufacturer that cares about security.
The very thing you seem to be whining about.
Millions of devices are currently using the only real root solution avaliable, Magisk, which requires a PC.
@lewmur pretty much nailed it.
If you want a device that works with one of these one click exploits, sell your up to date device and buy yourself an old banger running kitkat.
lewmur said:
Rooting a tablet is a security risk that manufacturers don't WANT users to take. They want rooting to be difficult. So, IMO, it is down right silly to think they'd intentionally let some apps, like the ones you mentioned, defeat their purpose. And NONE of those apps work on a high percentage of the tablets on the market today.
If having a tablet that can be rooted by one of them is that important to you, then I'd suggest you check the list BEFORE you make your purchase rather than whining about it when they don't work.
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Oh but i do check before I make a purchase. But everytime for one reason or another things change or an update comes and all of a sudden, now you need Odin. That why im pissed kid.
Also im sure the companies arent letting anyone root by choice. They would rather have you pay $1200 for an official unlocked phone...lol...But yes those apps can and will work on many phones running 8.1 and before.. perhaps you should do your homework instead of sticking your head in the sand
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They DON'T work that is the point. The fact that you actually mentioned towel root implies that you've been trawling the Internet and you don't quite know where things are up to with root.
Those exploits have long since been patched. Pretty much no one click root's work on any recent device.
Google have patched all current exploits. Any decent manufacturer should have updated their firmware to include the patches.
Anything MM onwards is unlikely to work with one of these one click root apps.
Any device that does simply means the manufacturer doesn't care about security or has abandoned the device.
My point here is that pretty much no device works with any of these one click root's anymore.
You have a device made by a manufacturer that cares about security.
The very thing you seem to be whining about.
Millions of devices are currently using the only real root solution avaliable, Magisk, which requires a PC.
@lewmur pretty much nailed it.
If you want a device that works with one of these one click exploits, sell your up to date device and buy yourself an old banger running kitkat.
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Hey cool story but it doesnt apply here. Im sure you can see the title, read it....t580....Hardly cutting edge stuff. If i could downgrade i would but i cant without a pc. I accidently upgraded my tablet and screwed myself. Those apps wont work on a galaxy S10 or galaxy 4 tablet but if i hadnt upgraded i would have used that and it woulda worked. Is chainfire around? He could shed some light if hes still on this
smokeuout said:
Hey cool story but it doesnt apply here. Im sure you can see the title, read it....t580....Hardly cutting edge stuff. If i could downgrade i would but i cant without a pc. I accidently upgraded my tablet and screwed myself. Those apps wont work on a galaxy S10 or galaxy 4 tablet but if i hadnt upgraded i would have used that and it woulda worked. Is chainfire around? He could shed some light if hes still on this
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Not being rude, but you really have no idea.
If you actually understood anything about root and kept with the times, you would be aware why non of these exploits work on anything beyond Lollipop. Marshmallow if you're lucky and haven't updated.
Supersu stopped working with most devices at Nougat and not at all with Oreo or anything beyond.
Over and out.
ashyx said:
Not being rude, but you really have no idea.
If you actually understood anything about root and kept with the times, you would be aware why non of these exploits work on anything beyond Lollipop. Marshmallow if you're lucky and haven't updated.
Supersu stopped working with most devices at Nougat and not at all with Oreo or anything beyond.
Over and out.
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I understand all of that just fine, thats not what i was talking about. I mentioned chainfire not because of supersu but because when I used to be on this site daily chainfire would help me out every now and then. Im going to assume hes not so active in here anymore, but maybe im wrong.
smokeuout said:
I understand all of that just fine, thats not what i was talking about. I mentioned chainfire not because of supersu but because when I used to be on this site daily chainfire would help me out every now and then. Im going to assume hes not so active in here anymore, but maybe im wrong.
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Chain fire sold supersu to a Chinese developer who has since abandoned it.
Chain fire announced his retirement from development a while back.
Magisk is now the only true root solution and even Magisk is constantly having to evolve to keep in the game.
All the other solutions you refer to were simply exploits that leveraged a vulnerability in the running system and have long since been patched even on older devices.
Magisk is not an exploit that leverages a vulnerability, but is a chain of modifications to the running system which is implemented both at the installation stage and at boot time. Similar to how Supersu used to work, but in a more advanced way which creates its own environment.
smokeuout said:
Oh but i do check before I make a purchase. But everytime for one reason or another things change or an update comes and all of a sudden, now you need Odin. That why im pissed kid.
Also im sure the companies arent letting anyone root by choice. They would rather have you pay $1200 for an official unlocked phone...lol...But yes those apps can and will work on many phones running 8.1 and before.. perhaps you should do your homework instead of sticking your head in the sand
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That's BS. I've had a T580 since 2016 and you've never been able to root one without Odin. There is NO WAY it is on a list for one of those apps. If you just bought the T580 and checked and found it on one, name the one. Put up or shut up.