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[Q] Any real benefit in rooting your xoom???

Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.

Of course, you can play Donkey Kong on it

yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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Motorola has said you do NOT need to unroot your device if you want the 4G upgrade. They said they will still install the modem and try to install the software needed. If the software doesn't work, they will still ship it back to you, but now you have to figure out how get the software to work.
In all likelihood, if you're just rooting so you can install some basic apps. You won't have an issue, but if for some reason you're flashing to different roms, then yes you would have to take a little time to either revert back to stock, or get it back and figure out how to install the modem software yourself.

if your asking this question then must not have done enough research or you shouldnt even bother attempting to root

I have done a lot of research and every day go to xoom android development to keep up to date with whats happening but I wanted to ask people who rooted already what are their experience with it.
As of now there is no custom ROM but there is a kernel and a few boot screens but and the overcloking but I from the outside IDK what are people experiencing on a rooted xoom that makes a lot of difference from my non rooted one.
And I may not have a lot of posts in the forums but even tho I'm no expert I'm not a complete stranger to rooting.

If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.

Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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^^^ Exactly what i was trying to imply well put ^^^

Eclair~ said:
If you are so talented in rooting, you should already be aware of the benefits. If what you see in the development section isn't enough to satisfy you then simply don't do it.
Rooting opens doors to custom system-level themes, custom ROMs, root required apps, custom kernels, and so forth. Obviously you know this much and half of it isn't available on the Xoom at the time. It may just not be worth it.
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He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App

I'm no rooting expert, or anything close to that title.
Thanks for your response, and yes, I agree with you about the fact that many of the features that we enjoyed in our phones being rooted are still not working for HC.
That's why I was asking if there is anything that I will like and that I'm missing at this point being that I enjoy other devs work but I'm not able to develop on my own.
Anyways I think maybe rooting may not be for me at this point, but I'm really looking forward for something worth rooting my $800 toy!
Thanks

gigglebox said:
He didn't say that he was a pro "at" rooting devices, rather he was pro rooting devices (ie. He's generally in support of the idea).
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
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That is correct, I missed that part in my previous response.
Thank you!

I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)

hi_its_ryan said:
But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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This is my exact feelings. I'm waiting for the Xoom to become the device it's supposed to be before I get too into tinkering with it. Eventually I will go the rooting route, but not quite yet.

That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.

hi_its_ryan said:
I finally rooted my evo to freely tether my xoom! But no, I havent seen a compelling reason to root the xoom yet, with so many expected critical software updates coming in the future (4g, flash, sd card) I'll personally wait a bit until at least the sd card update is pushed (fingers crossed)
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You're still able to get those updates even while being rooted. You won't however, once you choose to install a custom rom on it... made possible by rooting.

Can someone just help the Guy/Girl?
come on now. It seems like everyother thread has someone saying "If you know so much blah blah" We all know he doesn't know, which is the point of his thread. To Learn.
You don't need to come in here and try to insult him/her and tell em that if they don't know they don't need to bother rooting, etc.
If you have rooted, What have you done with your device that would make a knowledgeable end user want to root? Thats all he wants to know.
I wish I could help, but this Xoom is my first android device.
I am looking forward to rooting for my first time, and playing with everything, but personally I am just going to wait till after the LTE upgrade just to save myself a headache.
Maybe someone could help me with this question. Since after rooting/flashing ROMs might cause Moto's software for the 4g Radio to work improperly, does that mean if I wait till after the LTE upgrade, rooting/flashing might cause the Radio to not work?
Or is it somehow, once the software is on there, changing the ROMs and Permissions won't affect the Radio?

yankele said:
That is what I needed to hear, from normal people like me that had rooted already.
I guess if would have a data plan with vzw it would make more sense to root now but since I don't, and there is not a custom rom and I'll have to revert to stock if I want the software update when I send my xoom for the LTE upgrade, I'm not gonna be rooting yet all tho I'm dying to root, or maybe I'll root just for the fun of it because anyways I flash a new rom almost every week or twice a week so the reverting to stock may not be any harder to do.
I'll see....
Thanks for your feedback guys!
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.
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Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.

The third post in no way answers his question. Nor do the posts to "research." Don't be a ****, either answer the question or ignore it. The question is a reasonable one and posted in general.
In my opinion right now there is not a need to root right now unless:
-you want to deploy a custom Tom
-you want to overclock
-you want to customize the default rom. .. I.e. remove default applications such as the games, replace system files for turning purposes, etc...
-you want to run an application that requires root.
Until you have a desire or need that requires root there is no need to root the device. If you do root though Motorola seems (as stated in post 3) willing to upgrade the device at a minimum. So fear of ineligibility for the upgrade should not be a deterrent to upgrading.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App

JayBeezy802 said:
Did you not read the third post of this thread? It doesn't matter if you root the device or not, You'll get the 4G update. However if you're running a custom rom, they might not be able to install the software for the modem, in which case, you need to do it yourself. If you keep the stock rom and stay rooted, I doubt you would have any problems.
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I did read it but if you read my post I'm acknowledging that my device will get the LTE upgrade no matter what, but I don't want to take the risk to not be able to get the software upgrade just because they see my xoom is unlocked and rooted.
If you read the Motorola moderator in that forum he says more or less that if you are rooted pretty much don't get the software... and you know they could use any kind of excuses to not do it.
But still I might root just for the fun of it and going back to stock just to ne safe and not have to look for the freacking thing myself.
Sent from my HTC EVO running MYN's WARM Z using the XDA app.

yankele said:
Hey guys I'm just wondering if there is a real benefit to rooting at this point. I'm really pro rooting your devices but I want to see a real benefit to it too.
Am I missing something but as of now I cant really find a real motive to Root my xoom considering also that I will have to do a factory reset and revert to unrooted unlock stock for the LTE upgrade.
Can anyone that has rooted his Xoom give me their feedback on their experience and benefits they found by rooting?
And yes, I know the 1.5 GHz overclock but is that enough?...
Thanks.
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My main motive is nothing more than having the capability of defying the machine/syztem

I rooted and OC'd with both BidDogs and Koush's kernels.
I had reboot issues with both (not complaining here). Had it OC'd for about 4 days, tried BD update this morning and still did the reboot thing (sometimes several times an hour). MOST peoples OC seems to be wokring well.
Other then that, while rooted I didn't really do much other then poke around as su in the file system.
This morning i flashed back using the SFB file. I will try to root it again and OC if my xoom remains solid for the next day...maybe i did one of the steps wrong somewhere.
So to finally answer your question, I had a awsome time rooting/OC'ing and learned quite a bit doing so!

New transformer arriving soon, some opinions please.

I will be receiving my new 32 gig transformer Monday while at work and the dock a few days later. As a new tablet owner im excited, but i have a few questions that i couldn't find clear cut answers to by search / reading.
1. If teh device asks me to update, should i, or is teh update worse than teh shipping software?
2. Is there any benefit in rooting right out of the box? i rooted my Thunderbolt right out of the box and dont regret it, but the TF seems less robust in its development.
Also, any tips from current owners extremely appreciated.

1. Update is definitely better than 3.0.1 but in order to root you need to be on 3.0.1 as there is no way of rooting 3.1 yet.
2. I would check if there are any hardware defects. Play with the device for a day or so, if its fine then root if you want to.

So play with it a while to make sure its perfect before rooting or updating?

Bonetwizt said:
So play with it a while to make sure its perfect before rooting or updating?
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either. but you can downgrade from 3.1 to 3.0.1

1. The update has been brilliant! Well worth doing. It solved my dock issues too.
2. Agree with the last poster - play with it for a couple of days before you do just in case anything is wrong. I've not seen a good reason to root yet though.... anyone?

3.1 update is another 2weeks away

Just got off the phone with Ace...and the tech said 3.1 update not for another 2 weeks. What is up with Acer?

Good thing I'm not impatient. 3.0.1 already sports all the features I need, I'll just grab the 3.1 update when it arrives for the performance enhancements.

WereCatf said:
Good thing I'm not impatient. 3.0.1 already sports all the features I need, I'll just grab the 3.1 update when it arrives for the performance enhancements.
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I'm not impatient. But for $520 it have a lot of problems...and this is my sec one. But right now it's the only one that have usb that out now.

1.) If you have problems and can't wait go for a custom rom. I don't have any issues with GPS. I had an issue with wifi but I found a rom that doesn't have it and it works nicely.
2.) If you don't like custom roms wait but don't be impatient because we're in the same boat and steaming about it won't help anyone and it sure won't speed up the rom delivery.
Those are basically your only two options.

soloxp said:
I'm not impatient. But for $520 it have a lot of problems...and this is my sec one. But right now it's the only one that have usb that out now.
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return it
Calling people a holes really makes me feel like Im feeding troll by responding though.
Can I ask do you really want to mount a ten inch tablet and use for turn by turn directions.

soloxp said:
I'm not impatient. But for $520 it have a lot of problems...and this is my sec one. But right now it's the only one that have usb that out now.
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Sorry to hear u paid $520( hope it's 32gb) mine was $450(16gb) with tax picked up, and I too am very happy...hate waiting. But, I have waited months to get the iconia on release day...what's another couple weeks for the official update
Mine works really good since the last ota update. 3.1 should hopefully just be icing on my cake.

bpivk said:
1.) If you have problems and can't wait go for a custom rom. I don't have any issues with GPS. I had an issue with wifi but I found a rom that doesn't have it and it works nicely.
2.) If you don't like custom roms wait but don't be impatient because we're in the same boat and steaming about it won't help anyone and it sure won't speed up the rom delivery.
Those are basically your only two options.
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This is true. If you do not want to wait then by all means try out the custom ROMs. The Devs are doing some good work, but not one of the ROMs are perfect. I personnaly will wait for the OTA. By then all the root tools should be doing good and I will be able to tweak my tab what little I do. All this fuss at Acer will not change a thing. For those that are swapping or planning to swap out thier Acer for one of the other brands, more power to you. They also are having thier issues and they already have 3.1. Chill out and enjoy the day.

bpivk said:
1.) If you have problems and can't wait go for a custom rom. I don't have any issues with GPS. I had an issue with wifi but I found a rom that doesn't have it and it works nicely.
2.) If you don't like custom roms wait but don't be impatient because we're in the same boat and steaming about it won't help anyone and it sure won't speed up the rom delivery.
Those are basically your only two options.
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Do people read....I try the custom roms 3.1 gps still don't work. i'm not impatient. If gps work and and the screen didn't turn off i'll be good to go.

Glebaka said:
go for custom roms god damnit
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But make sure you backup or you might never see the real and sweet OTA from acer.
I recommend against custom roms. The ones I've tried are bloated and bugged. Sure, the changes are there and you will feel the wait was worth it (especially if you browse xda a lot... wtf is wrong with this site??).
So far I regret updating. I don't know if I can go back from 3.1 to 3.0. If I can't I might be stuck on custom roms for a while...

Bec07 said:
So far I regret updating. I don't know if I can go back from 3.1 to 3.0. If I can't I might be stuck on custom roms for a while...
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Sry to go off topic but may I ask as to why you perfer 3.0 over 3.1?

Digiguest said:
Sry to go off topic but may I ask as to why you perfer 3.0 over 3.1?
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He wants to go back to 3.0 in order to get the official 3.1 OTA.

And I checked now, it's no issue to go back as long as you have the backup.

soloxp said:
Just got off the phone with Ace...and the tech said 3.1 update not for another 2 weeks. What is up with Acer?
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Call back get another tech and you will likely get another answer, there techs are likely outsourced and have no idea what is going on at acer on the dev side of things.
So you guys need to stop getting all worried about 1 guy on the internet who talked to 1 tech about the update.

Bec07 said:
But make sure you backup or you might never see the real and sweet OTA from acer.
I recommend against custom roms. The ones I've tried are bloated and bugged. Sure, the changes are there and you will feel the wait was worth it (especially if you browse xda a lot... wtf is wrong with this site??).
So far I regret updating. I don't know if I can go back from 3.1 to 3.0. If I can't I might be stuck on custom roms for a while...
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on any asus based rom, xda work flawlessly, just like any other site. Bloatware anytime can be cleaned, official roms even more bloated(like stupid Appinapp thingie, more of them) anyway i cant find any bugs on updated roms like vp 1.0.8 primee p2-3
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REALLY... The DAME customs roms 3.1 GPS STILL don't work. AS$ hole.
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gps works very good form me. In stock acer 3.0.1 i couldnt find even 2 sats but on Vp 1.0.8 i can find 12 satts and get lock in 5 seconds, thats everything tested on same place

soloxp said:
Do people read....I try the custom roms 3.1 gps still don't work. i'm not impatient. If gps work and and the screen didn't turn off i'll be good to go.
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I'm not sure if you read. You say 3.1 GPS didn't work for you - but it works fine for many others. Sounds like a fault with your tablet or your user, not your ROM.

Glebaka said:
anyway i cant find any bugs on updated roms like vp 1.0.8 primee p2-3
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Can you please install monster madness and play for ~3 minutes?
I have broken texture issues on both vp 1.0.8 and p2.2 both acer based.
Tell Dexter you findings over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15205453#post15205453
Thanks a lot if you have the time to test this!

soloxp said:
Just got off the phone with Ace...and the tech said 3.1 update not for another 2 weeks. What is up with Acer?
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2 weeks is not a long time. Why do people insist that they should have everything immediately.
Once you get 3.1 you will be wanting the next version.

There's just WAY too much crying going on nowadays.
It's like I'm on howardforums all over again.

The reason why I haven't gone to custom ROMs is because I am not too experienced with these things and I don't want to brick my tablet, and because I keep seeing this or that that's broken in custom ROMs. I got tired of such hassles after running Linux for 10 years so now I'll just rather wait for the official release.
Besides, even if it was 2 weeks still it's not really THAT long; the most notable feature in 3.1 is the support for more USB peripherals, but that's more-or-less all, and if you don't need that then there should be no issues with you just hanging around patiently. Of course though, there are also people who are literally dying to get their USB gamepads working, but.. well, that's their prerogative, it's up to them to figure out if it is worth waiting the 2 weeks or taking the risk of going custom ROM - way.

WereCatf said:
The reason why I haven't gone to custom ROMs is because I am not too experienced with these things and I don't want to brick my tablet, and because I keep seeing this or that that's broken in custom ROMs. I got tired of such hassles after running Linux for 10 years so now I'll just rather wait for the official release.
Besides, even if it was 2 weeks still it's not really THAT long; the most notable feature in 3.1 is the support for more USB peripherals, but that's more-or-less all, and if you don't need that then there should be no issues with you just hanging around patiently. Of course though, there are also people who are literally dying to get their USB gamepads working, but.. well, that's their prerogative, it's up to them to figure out if it is worth waiting the 2 weeks or taking the risk of going custom ROM - way.
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And fair enough, if you're happy with 3.0 no point playing round with a custom update. Having said that, the overclocking, battery saving, and significantly smoother browser brought by a custom 3.1 has been very much worth it for me.

Did Acer kill the Iconia?

It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!

First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...

New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.

Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.

well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.

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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze

Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.

germanhoss said:
LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.

ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha

ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
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ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!

lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....

When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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BrianDigital said:
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.

tumpy said:
A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all

I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.

lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already

Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.

[Q] Should I update my Asus table first if I want to root it or not?

I just ordered a refurbished Asus tablet (the 16 gig one) from Tiger Direct and it says it will come with Honeycomb 3.0.
Now I looked around the message boards at the different rooting methods and its all much different then what I'm used to with rooting android phones.
I don't plan on putting new roms on the tablet, just other things like downloaded apps without going through the market.
Should I do the OTA update first before rooting or just root and not update? And which method is the easiest root method?
also to put apps on the tablet that say I downloaded from a website, does the tablet have to be rooted for that or not?
Sorry for all the questions, I just don't want to mess this up.

Has nothing to do with ur question but..i was thinking about buying one from tigerdirect also..if u dont mind..when u get it could you post the condition it came in and how u like it..

I wouldn't update. Just flash a rom and go from their. The roms that are on this site are awsome

I will do. I should get it early next week.

mecksg1 said:
I wouldn't update. Just flash a rom and go from their. The roms that are on this site are awsome
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Well I wasn't really wanting to go through the process of flashing a rom. But are there any roms that will give more features then what already comes with the pad?

oops didn't realize I wasn't suppose to post a question here. sorry.

The currently used root expoit only works on 3.2.1 so i would update to there. You will probably have to use vipermod or Nachoroot to root it depending on the serial number if it is B70 or lower use NVFlash to flash your first rom straight out without updating if it is B80+ then you need to update before you root
Edit: roms add a lot of speed, overclocking, addblocking, and different extra features depending on the rom you chose.
And no you do not need to be rooted to install apps you download from the browser, see "sideloading"

Ahhh ok thank you!

mmmajor said:
Has nothing to do with ur question but..i was thinking about buying one from tigerdirect also..if u dont mind..when u get it could you post the condition it came in and how u like it..
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I bought one refurbished for $299 last week. Got it within two days!
There is one really small scratch on the top corner of the case and a very tiny (< 1mm) dent on the edge of the bezel. Most of these cosmetic issues are not noticeable unless you are actually looking for it. The screen is perfect. There are no other flaws with the device. I would test all the mechanical and electrical stuff once you get it (cameras, connectors, radios, light sensor, etc).
The box comes only with the tablet and the charging/usb cable.
Also, I'm going to leave it un-rooted and with the stock ROM until ICS (hopefully). If ICS never shows up for it, then I will root and custom ROM.