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Lets Ask HTC for NexusOne SPL on Incredible

Hello everybidy as Froyo is just gona Release it will take ages for HTC to upgrade our Incredible and also we are missing on rooted OS.
The only solution to the date is asking HTC for Nexus One type SPL and which is perfectly as far as Legality and After Sale Service Issue is concerned as you Unlock SPL Warrenty is void.
Lets ask HTC to allot us new SPL like Nexus One which Support
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
so we then flash the .img file directly and Enjoy Incredible to the fullest
Ask HTC over
http://facebook.com/htc
and
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless

let us know how you make out with that...

jrebeiro said:
let us know how you make out with that...
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Don't be cynical, anything's possible..

See my Previous Efforts of the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3005712&postcount=9
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2931428&postcount=25
and Finally this one
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1266

They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.

heavensblade23 said:
They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.
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Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.

.mak said:
Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.
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You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.

heavensblade23 said:
You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.
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I believe they're talking about the disclaimer that you get when you unlock a nexus one. HTC will refuse to warranty most nexus ones if the bootloader is unlocked.... and thats the risk im willing to take

But you have to remember that Verizon will get say in that as well and they do not like people messing with their stuff. It's a long shot....
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Actually, I already have the cdma nexus one hboot. But it's useless to us until we can flash to start. The version is pretty far from the HTC one as well so it's useless in our attempts. Stay patient.

Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.

dephtones said:
Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question

I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.

Hey OP while were at it why dont we ask htc for a bigger screen too, heck maybe they can turn our phones into EVO's........ J/K

it will happen in time gotta patient

RLKirk said:
It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question
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After getting used to how everyone acted on the G1 forums, you are my nominee for most helpful XDA user, simply by stating "no question is a dumb question "

dephtones said:
I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.
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Root will happen. As is, this phone is far from obsolete. 2.2 still needs to be released on an actual device before its mature enough for daily use. Trust me, I went to 2.1 way too early on my last device and it sucked. Then 2.1 devices came out and all of the sudden it was good enough for daily use.

Start Shouting at this Accounts for Incredible root
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless

There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.

morkon said:
There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.
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I agree. Not only does it enable things VZW disabled intentionally but it increases the chances for issues that can lead to unsatified customers and returns.
HTC probably wouldn't want to go against their customer who is VZW not us. We buy from VZW not HTC.
We just have to trust in our developer community and hope they are able to accomplish root in the near future. I believe every HTC Android device has been rooted in the past so why would the Incredible be any different.
I remember reading an artible about how the G1 would never be able to be upgraded to 1.6 and devs got that phone running 2.1 so I am hopeful

Do you Think HTC will place the same Hardware root block on the DHD as they did on G2

Well, according to these very forums, the US T-mobile G2 has a hardware root block - a chip which flashes the phone back to the original ROM every time it detects a custom one
Do you think HTC will place this same hardware root block on the UK Desire Z and more importantly, our precious Desire HD? Personally, I'd like to believe that HTC did this under pressure from T-Mobile US, but I don't know...

Yes the desire HD will have the same protection as the G2. athough that sounds bad its not as bad as you would think.
1) there will be loads of devs working on the same problem (G2, DesireZ, DesireHD) so the quicker the full root will come
2) we can still "temporeraly" write to system unlike the Evo/Desire/ect. before root
Presumeing that the DesireHD is also vunrable to the rageagainstthecage exploit like the G2. Im pritty shure that it will be as G2 is and the ROM will be built at a similer time if :-D

Apache14 said:
Yes the desire HD will have the same protection as the G2. athough that sounds bad its not as bad as you would think.
1) there will be loads of devs working on the same problem (G2, DesireZ, DesireHD) so the quicker the full root will come
2) we can still "temporeraly" write to system unlike the Evo/Desire/ect. before root
Presumeing that the DesireHD is also vunrable to the rageagainstthecage exploit like the G2. Im pritty shure that it will be as G2 is and the ROM will be built at a similer time if :-D
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The G2 is running Vanilla 2.2 though, so it may be somewhat different... Lets hope the Desire HD can be rooted ASAP, Im sure Paul OB has a few tricks up his sleeve He has an answer for everything you know))
JD

yeah i just read about this on Engadget. This could potentially be a major problem for us future DHD owners.

Nobody has confirmed yet that there is some sort of hardware block. To me it sounds more like a kernel customization. Anyways, give the G2 hackers a couple of days to figure it out. I wouldn't be surprised if non-US phones (where there is actually competition) will not see this crap.

Thanks for your opinions guys! I guess the key is patience, it seems successful steps have already been taking in unlocking the device. With the combined effort of all of the HTC droid hackers, it shouldn't take very long at all

If they cant disable it, maybe they can make the phone reinstall a rooted version of the stock.. They have temporary root now, hopefully they manage to locate the hidden nand.. If they managed to get write permission to the part where the stock image/rom is, hopefully they will manage to make it restore a rooted version of it. If they manage to disable it, it would be easier for us to flash using rom manager etc but if they cant, we will just have to perhaps rely on restoring method. Its like a nandroid restore mechanism.
Just wishful thinking here, i do not know what they are doing now but hopefully it will work either hard or easy. Things go hard at first and hopefully will be more fluid as time pass by. Pray.. pray.. pray.. Go modders/devs!

I can tell you all now HTC will have HW R/W protection on there probably controled by the bootloader. They did it on the Desire/Wildfire/Evo they are not going to take a step back with this phone. 99% of the stuff ppl here about the G2 protection is wrong. i.e its not a rootkit :-s what happens.
Bootloader sets eMMC to R/O --> boots os --> any changes get bufferd --> on reboot bootloader restores removing changes
Thats what happens no one realy knows how the restores happen yet.
Root will come probably for all 3 devices at once.
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Personally, I can live without custom ROM, though I would prefer to have it. I currently own a Hero with MCR5, and love it.
But what is REALLY important is root access to access Market and download the many programs I have already purchased.
Here in Denmark, we only have the locked "free apps only" market. I need my CoPilot and much other stuff!
If I have root, and can run my "root required" apps, then I am happy.

kingkeld said:
Personally, I can live without custom ROM, though I would prefer to have it. I currently own a Hero with MCR5, and love it.
But what is REALLY important is root access to access Market and download the many programs I have already purchased.
Here in Denmark, we only have the locked "free apps only" market. I need my CoPilot and much other stuff!
If I have root, and can run my "root required" apps, then I am happy.
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Have you been inside a cave this last few days?!? If it's all about the market, google is going to open up to almost 30 new countries....
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-countries-more-sellers-more-buyers.html
Oh, but you tell me, that the X app or the Y app still is not going to be on my country's market...
But that's not google fault, now it up with the software devs to select what country market they want to be

onesolo said:
Have you been inside a cave this last few days?!? If it's all about the market, google is going to open up to almost 30 new countries....
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-countries-more-sellers-more-buyers.html
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Still, not all countries are on that list (like mine for example).
So having access to paid apps is still a pretty good reason to have root.

So, i need a help from you guys with this. I never had Android and have one question.
Ok, i understood that if i want coocked ROM i need to root it, BUT if I want instal crack games and programs and all availible apps from the net, do I still need this root?
Without root i can instal only free games and buy the one with price and thats all??
Thanks

Hang on, are you asking for advice on pirating? O_O
OMG!

Smartmob said:
So, i need a help from you guys with this. I never had Android and have one question.
Ok, i understood that if i want coocked ROM i need to root it, BUT if I want instal crack games and programs and all availible apps from the net, do I still need this root?
Without root i can instal only free games and buy the one with price and thats all??
Thanks
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This is wrong!
wywywywy said:
Hang on, are you asking for advice on pirating? O_O
OMG!
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Bingo!

xD ok ok, no pirating...just the part with root

onesolo said:
Have you been inside a cave this last few days?!? If it's all about the market, google is going to open up to almost 30 new countries....
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-countries-more-sellers-more-buyers.html
Oh, but you tell me, that the X app or the Y app still is not going to be on my country's market...
But that's not google fault, now it up with the software devs to select what country market they want to be
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...And this is where MarketEnabler is great. I buy stuff from all over the place. Some I can maybe live without, but some I would hate to miss out on.
And I still need Root for Titanium Backup.

RollingStar said:
Well, according to these very forums, the US T-mobile G2 has a hardware root block - a chip which flashes the phone back to the original ROM every time it detects a custom one
Do you think HTC will place this same hardware root block on the UK Desire Z and more importantly, our precious Desire HD? Personally, I'd like to believe that HTC did this under pressure from T-Mobile US, but I don't know...
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Can somebody explain.. Is this feature "HW root block" will be affect every DHD or only SIM-locked (operator's) phones?
I'm using Galaxy S and it is not difficult to guess that I have pre-ordered DHD on Clove. My Galaxy's using experience tell me to be bad without having root access. So I have been a bit confused when saw this topic.
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The DHD will have the same R/W (root) protection in place as the G2 (vision). I know this as its based on the same chipset and will contain the same eMMC.
HTC always do this on every "generation" of phone i.e desire/evo/ect. Generation had the same NAND lockout as eachother.
So every single shipping DHD will have the G2 style protection
Can a mod pls close this topic its pointless and missleading
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Apache you gave me a reason to wait details about this are 100% defined and I add..unlocked..before buying. Can't live with a locked Htc with no custom roms.
One question, can you point me where I can follow the development of this?

Apache14 said:
Can a mod pls close this topic its pointless and missleading
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How so? I'm asking a valid question, T-Mobile US may have pushed HTC into doing this, just like they did to remove Wifi tethering to the G2's supposedly 'Vanilla' version of Android... Do you work for HTC? All we can do is predict trends, nobody knows for sure if the DHD will share the US G2's exact chipset.

[Q] Is the desire z worth it? And also rooting?

Iv been a nokia user all my life, love trying new things with my device.
Now finally Iv decided to shift, I am getting a HTC Desire Z this week for approx $500.
Is it worth that much?
If i do need a qwerty keypad, is there any other phone better than this one in the market?
Also im totally new to rooting and roms stuff,
How much of a difference is it to root the device?(the HTC sense UI is already pretty awesome and customizable from the reviews iv seen)
Is it worth the risk?

idk if they have craigslist wherever you're from, but i can find one right now for around $250

The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)

navkaranchadha said:
The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
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The best guide for both is the Gfree root, s-off and super CID thread in the development forum.

The most up-to-date guide for rooting, which covers all Vision phones (both G2 and Desire Z) is in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.

redpoint73 said:
Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?

navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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You can possibly lose warranty,.... only if something goes horribly wrong and you cant unroot again, but in usual cases, yes you can unroot for warranty purposes.
You can still use full SenseUI,... But you dont have to if you dont want,... thats the beauty.

navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.

dhkr123 said:
Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.

redpoint73 said:
Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.

navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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I dont have a desire z, so I cant answer with 100% certainty. But I have a rooted G2 with a Desire Z Sense rom on it and htcsense.com seemed to work, but I turned it off as I hated it.

navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
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I highly doubt that htcsense.com can tell if you are rooted or not. You certainly don't lose HTC Locations or any of the other stuff, it all works fine still. Don't worry.
htcsense.com is actually very flaky at the moment, and HTC admit they are still working on it. So it doesn't work very well anyway for a lot of people, rooted or not.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
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No, you don't lose any data on rooting. Unless the rooting goes so badly wrong (extremely unlikely if you use the method in the Wiki) and have to flash a ROM again to recover.
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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hboot is the bootloader on your phone. You can "see" it if you have the phone powered off (not just asleep, you need to turn off the "fast boot" feature in Menu->Settings->Applications or pull the battery), then hold Volume Down then press Power till it turns on. There is an "eng" (engineering) version of hboot that gives you a few more flashing/recovery functions, but that's not essential to start with, ignore that for now.
gfree is a utility that can be used in rooting and primarily for achieving a full S-OFF on your phone, plus SIM unlock and "superCID" - see more details at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF

Battery Life/General Questions about the Arc?

Hey, I was thinking about getting the Arc, but I' wondering how good the battery life is, and just in genera; how good the phone is? Once it's rooted, what else can you do on it without being able to load custom roms?

MouthTalker said:
Hey, I was thinking about getting the Arc, but I' wondering how good the battery life is
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It is a smart phone and battery life differs from a person to another. Do you want me to say its good? On my side, I like the battery life and I think it is totally enough for me.
+PS there are more threads about this and next time try to search before posting a new one.
Cheers

Nimche said:
It is a smart phone and battery life differs from a person to another. Do you want me to say its good? On my side, I like the battery life and I think it is totally enough for me.
+PS there are more threads about this and next time try to search before posting a new one.
Cheers
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Sorry, I pressed enter while typing the title and it submitted the post for me. I was also wondering about the usefulness of rooting the phone as I mentioned in my edit.

from what I have seen and experienced from Android, root is a nice feature to get rid of unwanted extra stuff, system files and files came from your carrier and even SE stuff that you don't need. Without them, phone runs faster and battery is better.
Rooting process is easy and no risk in it at least for me but you have to be sure that you know what is going on and how to fix if anything happens instead of freakin out.
+ custom ROM won't happen on rooted devices, you need a unbranded device which can have a unlocked booloader later for custom ROMs/

So I take it that just unbranding the phone following the guides on here isn't enough to get SE to unlock the Bootloader?

MouthTalker said:
So I take it that just unbranding the phone following the guides on here isn't enough to get SE to unlock the Bootloader?
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well no.
Your phone needs to be bootloader unlockable. It means that phone it self has to come unbranded from Sony Ericsson factory, means no carrier every put their hands on the phone then bootloader on your phone may get unlocked.

hi..you don't necessarily need boot loader unlocked devices for custom roms.. they managed it on x10 for 6 months or so..
Sent from The Arc!

im_iceman said:
hi..you don't necessarily need boot loader unlocked devices for custom roms.. they managed it on x10 for 6 months or so..
Sent from The Arc!
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Right, I meant more like full functional ROM including kernel tweaks but I guess they are achieving that as well. I am running "J" 2.3 on my X10 too with bunch of WLODs

Real noob to Andriod and DHD

Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies

I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I have a case now and that was the worst an most useless post I have ever seen.

Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!

pwraggcan said:
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
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Thank you.

Dowsett said:
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
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I suggest you to root first then install a custom ROM.
Dowsett said:
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
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Those are custom ROM, which developers uses stock ROM as base. They modified, customized and tweaked it, so it is much faster and more battery saving than stock ROM.
To flash a custom ROM, you can find guide in the development section.

Dowsett said:
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
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Welcome to Android World! Here you will find all your answers related to your Android OS.
Since you have not rooted your device. It's hard to get rid of some the built in apps.
in simple words if you are not aware of this stuff > Rooting your phone means becoming an Administrator of your device, where you can do what you like, like full control on (PC.
Check this link for all the details you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214

I highly recommend getting screen protector

pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
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saimon05 said:
I highly recommend getting screen protector
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You two sir, are meanie.
But then, consider using the 2+ clear protector for the front and rear for maximum protection.

Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

When I bought my DHD I was so into it I decided to make a personal website.
It has various rom screenshot examples, some videos and an up-to-date list of roms here at XDA. You can check it out via my sig.
I put it together with people like you in mind.
Maybe it can help or at least inspire you.
I try most roms and my current one is MIUI 1.8.26 V.2: FRESHLY SQUEEZED EDITION™ By MrGarak.
Screenshots of it are here.
Enjoy your DHD!
I still thoroughly enjoy mine.

pukemon said:
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
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I actually did agree with you @pukemon, and I support it 100%.
But this...
Dowsett said:
...the screen broke within hours...
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So sad. Or maybe bad luck. Anyway, good luck unlocking your phone!

Hi there welcome to Android.
all that rooting isn't really obligatory, more of a fun thing to do actually. Most of the time ROM's from xda developers are better optimized and faster than the ones coming from HTC, but HTC aren't horrible developers.
For hiding crappy apps you could install an alternative launcher (i use GO Launcher EX) which allows you to hide certain apps. This way you'll never see them but the niceties of the Sense UI will be gone also (some of them). However Go Launcher is quite customizable.
and btw, this is the big thing with android, customization. You can change almost anything about it only sometimes needing root to do it.
It's a great OS and if iOS is friendly to noobs, Android is not as friendly (a bit of a learning curve but not steep) but it does let them show of a lot more.