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I just picked my first Xperia it's the X10i will be using on Tmobile USA, I love Android but am not fond of the Sony software on the phone, I'm planning on having it rooted today to 2.1
Just wanted to get any opinions of those of you who have rooted X10
Thanks
i had mine rooted for about 3 days, but due to there being a problem with installing apps form sd card after root, i soon flashed it back,,,i do miss my root programs thou,
I like the Phone, I don't like all the Sony software, I prefer the Google experience style Android if that makes sense.
Bargsbeer said:
...rooted today to 2.1...
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Good luck trying.
I do like my moxierless phone a lot.
Bargsbeer said:
I just picked my first Xperia it's the X10i will be using on Tmobile USA, I love Android but am not fond of the Sony software on the phone, I'm planning on having it rooted today to 2.1
Just wanted to get any opinions of those of you who have rooted X10
Thanks
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Are you sure is a X10i? I think is a X10a, check it to be sure.
You can root your phone but... to Android 1.6-R2BA026. Read the android development section for X10 before you make a mistake and fall to the yellow triangle or to a brick phone.
I like my root for only 2 reasons, apps that require root ( Titanium Backup, ShootMe...) and because I have removed all the apps that I dont need/want. And thats it, I dont want any half working custom ROM solutions since all of them on other phones have some things that dont work at all or barely work. Hope this 2.1 will be rooted when it is out and I will be happy.
Yes its.the x10i im typing this.on it now Tmobile 3G works.
I was under the impression it could be.rooted to android 2.1???
If not can i atleast have it rooted to get rid of all the sony software?
Bargsbeer said:
I was under the impression it could be.rooted to android 2.1???
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Not sure where you got that from.
Bargsbeer said:
If not can i atleast have it rooted to get rid of all the sony software?
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Have a read of this thread - forum.xda-developers.com
The X10 is a great piece of hardware. SE's software on the other hand leaves alot to be desired. Root is perfect as you can have the gear without the crap. R2BA026 is also a wonderful firmware, and far better than the 016 firmware that Rogers is still stuck at.
saltorio said:
The X10 is a great piece of hardware. SE's software on the other hand leaves alot to be desired. Root is perfect as you can have the gear without the crap. R2BA026 is also a wonderful firmware, and far better than the 016 firmware that Rogers is still stuck at.
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Forgive me for my ignorance, I don't know much about rooting. I'm actually going to pay someone to root it for me. If what I have read so far is correct I can root it to 1.6 and at the same time remove all the Sony software crap and just keep the google/Android stuff?
Thanks
Bargsbeer said:
Forgive me for my ignorance, I don't know much about rooting. I'm actually going to pay someone to root it for me. If what I have read so far is correct I can root it to 1.6 and at the same time remove all the Sony software crap and just keep the google/Android stuff?
Thanks
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Yep. No matter what you do at this point, you're stuck with Android 1.6. Rooting doesn't change that (at this point in time). What rooting does is allow you access to the OS files themselves, and thereby you can remove the apps you don't want (which can't be uninstalled normally as they are part of SE's base OS on the X10).
saltorio said:
Yep. No matter what you do at this point, you're stuck with Android 1.6. Rooting doesn't change that (at this point in time). What rooting does is allow you access to the OS files themselves, and thereby you can remove the apps you don't want (which can't be uninstalled normally as they are part of SE's base OS on the X10).
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I could deal with 1.6 as long as I can remove the sony crap. Another question I have had the Nexus 1 rooted and G1 Rooted both I paid someone to do, I heard the X10 is easy to brick is this true or just like anything you try to root there is always a risk?
After having root and learning a couple things I wouldn't go back. As for 2.1 not yet. The dev community is going straight to 2.2.
Why would you pay? Learn how to do it yourself. It takes time, patience and following instructions properly.
The upsides to root right now. You can un-SE your phone (changing themes and removing apps). But if you don't know how to root your phone you wont know how to mod your phone to your liking.
gavriel18 said:
Learn how to do it yourself. It takes time, patience and following instructions properly.
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+1. I love having mine rooted, and wouldn't look back. I joined the forum as I was new to Android and wanted to learn how to customize my phone to my liking, and still learning new things, tips and tricks.
just fyi...the X10 is almost impossible to brick, one thing you can thank SE for
Thanks for all the responses, This makes me way more comfortable. I love the hardware it's a beast of a phone. This is all a learning process for me I had a Nexus One that I eventually learned how to install ROMs with ROM manager, I'm hoping in time with the X10 I can do the same.
Just curious what SE apps or programs do all advise deleting?
rvictorg said:
just fyi...the X10 is almost impossible to brick, one thing you can thank SE for
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Yeah, even the guys who developed the root method didn't actually brick the X10 as they tried to crack it, from what I remember reading. The worst is that you get the yellow exclamation mark and then have to re-do the first step in the root method to bring you back to the original release firmware (016 iirc, or maybe 014).
I definitely agree with some of the other posters that you're much better off doing it yourself. Once you learn how it's pretty straightforward, and with new firmwares being released pretty often you won't want to pay someone every time to update your firmware.
Just read the root instructions a few times, make sure to download the files before you start, and take your time.
Bargsbeer said:
I like the Phone, I don't like all the Sony software, I prefer the Google experience style Android if that makes sense.
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The sony software is what makes the X10 an X10, why would you even want the phone then, besides its good looks ?
Bargsbeer said:
I could deal with 1.6 as long as I can remove the sony crap. Another question I have had the Nexus 1 rooted and G1 Rooted both I paid someone to do, I heard the X10 is easy to brick is this true or just like anything you try to root there is always a risk?
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The X10 and the Nexus One are identical in terms of its hardware, minus the camera MP. The Nexus One is a great learning tool for rooting and modifying an Android because its the closest you can get to Android OS straight up and Google allowed you to unlock the bootloader. I rooted the X10 as soon as it was made available and it was just as easy. I did get the yellow exclamation mark and getting it fixed was easy to.
Definitely, definitely root the phone yourself and learn things yourself, otherwise, get an iPhone and let Steve Jobs control your phone for you.
****nab said:
The sony software is what makes the X10 an X10, why would you even want the phone then, besides its good looks ?
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Maybe it's the best phone your carrier offers (such as with Rogers), and you couldn't afford a new phone contract-free? Maybe you like the look? Maybe you wanted a phone with a 4" display and 8MP camera? There are lots of reasons to want the X10... the SE software is just one of them.
cue_32 said:
The X10 and the Nexus One are identical in terms of its hardware, minus the camera MP.
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Not quite. Different amount of RAM, different amount of phone storage, different screen size, screen resolution, and touch digitizer.
Iv been a nokia user all my life, love trying new things with my device.
Now finally Iv decided to shift, I am getting a HTC Desire Z this week for approx $500.
Is it worth that much?
If i do need a qwerty keypad, is there any other phone better than this one in the market?
Also im totally new to rooting and roms stuff,
How much of a difference is it to root the device?(the HTC sense UI is already pretty awesome and customizable from the reviews iv seen)
Is it worth the risk?
idk if they have craigslist wherever you're from, but i can find one right now for around $250
The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
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The device is not on craiglist here, 500$ is cheap i guess(its unlocked to any carrier here),
Another small doubt, can anyone share a link on how to root the desire z, all i can find is for g2(i read somewhere its not the same)
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The best guide for both is the Gfree root, s-off and super CID thread in the development forum.
The most up-to-date guide for rooting, which covers all Vision phones (both G2 and Desire Z) is in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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Whether to root or not is a very personal choice. But even if you don't want to load custom ROMs, there are still some things that can only be done on rooted phones. Some software, like ShootMe and Titanium Backup only work on rooted phones. Also, if your version of the Desire Z has any bloatware, it needs to be rooted to remove it.
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But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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You can possibly lose warranty,.... only if something goes horribly wrong and you cant unroot again, but in usual cases, yes you can unroot for warranty purposes.
You can still use full SenseUI,... But you dont have to if you dont want,... thats the beauty.
navkaranchadha said:
But what all do i lose on the desire z on rooting it.?
Does the sense UI remain the exactly same?
Also is it possible to kind of unroot it later on for warranty issues n stuff?
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Typically, if it is so buggered that you can't "unroot" it, then they won't be able to tell that you did anything to it to begin with.
Root does NOT take anything away... what root is, is simply GODLIKE POWER. Being GOD doesn't limit your freedom, it ENHANCES it.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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Well, I don't know about "godlike", but it is fun to have "superuser" privilege
All rooting does, is give you privilege/permission to access the operating system files. It does not actually change any files or take away anything. Its very unlikely to mess up your phone rooting as long as you follow the instruction carefully. And to me, the benefits are well worth the risk.
One more benefit I forgot to mention before, is that overclocking the CPU is only possible on a rooted phone.
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I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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I dont have a desire z, so I cant answer with 100% certainty. But I have a rooted G2 with a Desire Z Sense rom on it and htcsense.com seemed to work, but I turned it off as I hated it.
navkaranchadha said:
I read somewhere in xda, that the phone loses htcsense.com feature, htc locations and some other sense specific feature. Is it so? Iv had my nokia rooted, i know what it feels like, but these few htc features are the ones that sold me on it. Dont want them to go.
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I highly doubt that htcsense.com can tell if you are rooted or not. You certainly don't lose HTC Locations or any of the other stuff, it all works fine still. Don't worry.
htcsense.com is actually very flaky at the moment, and HTC admit they are still working on it. So it doesn't work very well anyway for a lot of people, rooted or not.
Also the phone data, do i lose it on rooting?
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No, you don't lose any data on rooting. Unless the rooting goes so badly wrong (extremely unlikely if you use the method in the Wiki) and have to flash a ROM again to recover.
and whats the diff between gfree and hboot?
Sorry im new at all this, still researchin on the xda forums.
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hboot is the bootloader on your phone. You can "see" it if you have the phone powered off (not just asleep, you need to turn off the "fast boot" feature in Menu->Settings->Applications or pull the battery), then hold Volume Down then press Power till it turns on. There is an "eng" (engineering) version of hboot that gives you a few more flashing/recovery functions, but that's not essential to start with, ignore that for now.
gfree is a utility that can be used in rooting and primarily for achieving a full S-OFF on your phone, plus SIM unlock and "superCID" - see more details at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF
i like the specs of the phone wondering a few things..
how easy is root and recovery install?
are there any solid custom kitkat roms?
how much risk is involved with root/recovery? (are there chances of a full brick)
does the phone perform as well as the specs suggest?
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i like the specs of the phone wondering a few things..
how easy is root and recovery install?
are there any solid custom kitkat roms?
how much risk is involved with root/recovery? (are there chances of a full brick)
does the phone perform as well as the specs suggest?
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The phone is all its cracked up to be and root is simple. Unless you go t-mobile then you'll have to wait for recovery and roms like most of us. Locked bootloader issues for now. But I've had quite a few phones and this so far is sweet. Hope this helps.
Mahapederdon said:
The phone is all its cracked up to be and root is simple. Unless you go t-mobile then you'll have to wait for recovery and roms like most of us. Locked bootloader issues for now. But I've had quite a few phones and this so far is sweet. Hope this helps.
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Does rooting void warranty on the g3 seeing how we can't unlock bootloader anyway?
Edit: Possible to get back to stock without showing you've rooted?
I havnt done it but from what I've read it's pretty easy to go completely stock.
There's at least one thread with the same question. Take a look there
So far there is no way to install custom recovery or roms since the bootloaded is locked :/
The phone for me anyways performs quite well (16gig/2gigRAM), a little slower than my nexus5 but I expected that since it was stock android vs LG's skin. Also the phone seems a little laggy on games like Clash of Clans vs my friends Xperia Z2, but only slightly, nothing that bothers me.
Everyday use is snappy
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Does rooting void warranty on the g3 seeing how we can't unlock bootloader anyway?
Edit: Possible to get back to stock without showing you've rooted?
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going back to stock is very easy.
Just look in the development thread, that should give you an idea as to the dev progress.
thanks for the comments i understand all of this was just looking for some opinions, i've already looked at the dev thread but you never know if there is one person out there with a unique and valid opinion on a phone.
If you're going to buy a G3 go for the 32gb, 1gb more ram (3gb). I never have slowdowns. As for rooting, using purple drake its far easier than any other phone I've rooted.
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I've wanted to grill out some of the problems with the A7 that's came with it, but after realizing I've never done this before, I've also noticed there's no actual ROM out yet
Should I just wait until the ROM comes and maybe some full guides?
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I've wanted to grill out some of the problems with the A7 that's came with it, but after realizing I've never done this before, I've also noticed there's no actual ROM out yet
Should I just wait until the ROM comes and maybe some full guides?
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Welcome to the A7 Family,
which problems are you running into right now? if you have no need for Root. i'll just say hold on till some development start to kick.......
P.S. not every problem can be fix having root access
DrakenFX said:
Welcome to the A7 Family,
which problems are you running into right now? if you have no need for Root. i'll just say hold on till some development start to kick.......
P.S. not every problem can be fix having root access
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Really just cosmetic things like the notification bell, maybe switching up the emojis, small things. I always wanted to try a different ROM on this phone, so I guess it isn't anything that needs to be done right now.
Rigby J said:
Really just cosmetic things like the notification bell, maybe switching up the emojis, small things. I always wanted to try a different ROM on this phone, so I guess it isn't anything that needs to be done right now.
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just unlocked my bootloader and rooted. Wonderful being able to use my root apps again. Chnaged my emoji using emoji switcher which i really wanted to do. Hate the stock android emoji.. debloated a little, and now about to change the system to my favorite font. I say go for it. If you do, let me know. I can send some pointers
considering there is absolutely no rom support yet I would hold off, wait out your 30 day return period and if there are roms after that and you want to void your warranty then do it then. Also I'm sure people are working on getting the bootloader unlocked without contacting ZTE so there is another reason to wait.
pwnerman said:
...Also I'm sure people are working on getting the bootloader unlocked without contacting ZTE so there is another reason to wait.
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Already done: http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/bootloader-unlock-t3437778
osmosizzz said:
just unlocked my bootloader and rooted. Wonderful being able to use my root apps again. Chnaged my emoji using emoji switcher which i really wanted to do. Hate the stock android emoji.. debloated a little, and now about to change the system to my favorite font. I say go for it. If you do, let me know. I can send some pointers
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Thank you, I'll message you when I do.
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considering there is absolutely no rom support yet I would hold off, wait out your 30 day return period and if there are roms after that and you want to void your warranty then do it then. Also I'm sure people are working on getting the bootloader unlocked without contacting ZTE so there is another reason to wait.
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I see, I see
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Thank you, I'll message you when I do.
I see, I see
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If you want to wait until the 30 day period is over, you can go ahead. im keeping the phone for a while so ive just gone ahead and rooted. there is a method to unlock the bootloader without contacting ZTE. I did it that way. its fairly easy.
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I've wanted to grill out some of the problems with the A7 that's came with it, but after realizing I've never done this before, I've also noticed there's no actual ROM out yet
Should I just wait until the ROM comes and maybe some full guides?
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There is a fairly simple way to Unlock your boot loader right now, it seems to work for most people. Its possible they may figure out a way to block this in future updates (I am not an expert). If you are with in your retail return window I would recommend trying the method because if you manage to really mess something up, you can at least return it.
Just take your time.
The instructions are for multiple versions and slightly out of order. Make sure everything is working before you begin.
If you plan to go through ZTE and in theory void your warranty, then by all means wait until you really need it.
Good luck.
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If you want to wait until the 30 day period is over, you can go ahead. im keeping the phone for a while so ive just gone ahead and rooted. there is a method to unlock the bootloader without contacting ZTE. I did it that way. its fairly easy.
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How is this done?
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How is this done?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/bootloader-unlock-t3437778
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/bootloader-unlock-t3437778
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thanks
I just got my A7. Coming from OPO with a sultan rom running xposed. I want to root but honestly I am not super smart developer. I am good following direction and figuring things out. I honestly love Sulan rom and would love it on A& but I doubt he does a rom for it as he mostly is busy with school and sticks with OPO or OP3.
I am debating on rooting as I mostly just want xposed for its youtube app adblocker and in app blocking apps.
I would suggest waiting til roms are developed and little more mature. Which if judging by the speed of root being available I would say could be as soon as few months or less.
Big respect for the developers and who keep the community and advancements going. Thanks all!
Does anyone know a way to disable the notification bell with root? Thanks
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Does anyone know a way to disable the notification bell with root? Thanks
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I don't think you can disable the bell and keep the lockscreen exactly as it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/themes/skipping-notification-bell-root-t3441787
Any ex "hybrid rom concept edition" (Xperia Z Ultra uses) interested in development?
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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Any new rom's a good one mate
Why do you need a device with a locked bootloader?
Doom Slayer said:
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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I don't know ur work , but im really interested to see what r u able to do with this phone , I will be here to test anything , and from my pov I think speed is better
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Any new rom's a good one mate
Why do you need a device with a locked bootloader?
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Few reasons, one is that I need to see what can be done with locked one. I managed to port Z3's concept rom to Zu, made it 400mb and it was able to run with Locked Bootloader.
Second reason, is that I can't really afford to brick it right now. I think of switching to black from chrome for a while
I need some crazy idea to motivate myself.
I was able to live with GAAps-free phone for a year, but Nanodroid didn't support new Maps v2 api.
Plus removing Google really improves battery life.
Personally, I am all crazy about Cyber Security and I got pissed when phone lags. Also I believe that most of "innovations" are softeare, that are easy to port.
I posted Google free rom with clear instructions how to install Nanodroid but it's not intersting.
Doom Slayer said:
Is anyone interested?
What's more important for you guys, security or speed?
If there fans of my work and this amazing device let me know.
I am doing cyber security now, so if you want something really amazing I need a motivation to spend my free time doing that. And I will need to get myself a second device with locked bootloader for starters.
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I'm definitely interested .
speed is the better
wow cant wait im still using your Hybrid rom concept edition v2 i love it plus im also on locked boot loader
any news for your project ?
Any update my z ultra is hungry for a new rom
@Doom Slayer, about what can be done with still locked bootloader - you may check following post:
Android PIE VerifiedBoot Bypass: sony xperia XZ1c locked bootloader permanently rooted
I like your [GUIDE] Z Ultra and Z1 HARD BRICK RECOVERY thread.
Do you think it could be made working with XZp/XZ1/XZ1c phones too?
Hardbrick recovery would be very useful for yoshino phones (managed to brick two already).
@j4nn, that's looks promising. Great work! Too bad I don't have any locked device. But I will keep that information in mind.
About hardbrick recovery, you should try contacting @the_laser, as he was the guy who developed software in the first place.
About the rom development, I am still thinking of a concept itself.
Most likely it would be ultra-debloated
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About hardbrick recovery, you should try contacting @the_laser, as he was the guy who developed software in the first place.
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Unfortunately it seems he is not active on xda anymore, for more than a year - mentioning him has no effect, his account is displayed as "disabled". I did not try a pm though.
Do you by any chance know what might have happen with him? Or any good way for contact?
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Unfortunately it seems he is not active on xda anymore, for more than a year - mentioning him has no effect, his account is displayed as "disabled". I did not try a pm though.
Do you by any chance know what might have happen with him? Or any good way for contact?
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I will pm you.