My Brother have xperia z2, and I bought a Z3. We did a comparison of the screen, and unexpectedly, we observed z2 has better viewing angles than the Z3. OH NOOOOOO!!!!!!
WHY SONY??????!!!!!
100% brightness on both devices
I've tried to cut down on brightness on Z3. Z3 has brighter screen than Z2. I reduced to 70%, but it meant nothing
When we look at angles from the top, bottom, left and right viewing angles are excellent on both devices. The only problem is when the screen looks around the corner
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harfot said:
I can see the screen at 160 deg. but for what reason?
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I think being IPS it should be wider angle view.
Djuro89 said:
My Brother have xperia z2, and I bought a Z3. We did a comparison of the screen, and unexpectedly, we observed z2 has better viewing angles than the Z3. OH NOOOOOO!!!!!!
WHY SONY??????!!!!!
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I can see the screen at 160 deg. but for what reason?
What a shame that you can't see the device in a prone position!
Yeah I don't get all the noise about viewing angles when the only person watching stuff on the phone is the one directly in front of it.
I love poor viewing angles, so people besides me on bus can't read mi chat.
See if you can see the screen blindfolded, if not, return de device.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795
In the Z3 review "Viewing Angles" chart you can add the Z2, which has an advantage over the Z3 in some areas, but its not that bad though. Overall I think its almost as good as my HTC Butterfly's display.
Why would you ever look at your phone at an off angle? I get this is an issue with a TV but a phone? People are really digging for problems at this point.
tfly212 said:
Why would you ever look at your phone at an off angle? I get this is an issue with a TV but a phone? People are really digging for problems at this point.
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I don't think you get the point of this thread. Read again.
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I don't think you get the point of this thread. Read again.
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I have to disagree with you, unless it was meant to be sarcastic (although there are none of the standard signs of written sarcasm).
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I have to disagree with you, unless it was meant to be sarcastic (although there are none of the standard signs of written sarcasm).
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Fair enough. I believe the OP was just comparing between the viewing angle of the Z2 and Z3 at an ideal setting, and making a point that Z3 should not be any worse. When Sony makes the Z3, one would expect the same or better. Not worse. For me, the viewing angle is just fine on the Z3. But what bothers for some may be the fact that is proven to be worse than Z2, given it is an IPS panel afterall.
I was distraught when I read about this.
So, I got my friend who owns a Z2 and did a comparison. Yeah both of us agreed the Z3 screen colours reproduction are much better than Z2.
The trade off is some angles washes out more on Z3 but then heck, who uses their phone in those funny position LOL.
My God... No... This simply cannot be... I'm going to go throw my phone off a balcony now, as clearly, it is useless (just like this thread)
The Z3 has improved in more areas it than lost in the screen aspect compared to the Z2, so overall it is better. This happens with every company including Apple where contrast maybe slightly lower on a newer device etc. As long as it doesn't really impact you it does not matter, as there is a net gain with other improvements.
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My God... No... This simply cannot be... I'm going to go throw my phone off a balcony now, as clearly, it is useless (just like this thread)
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Confirm it for my Z3 Compact as well. Horrible! Sony, I can barely see the screen while holding it at an 45° angle only. And upside down, I can't see anything at all, just black! Was so upset with the phone that I dumped it in the pool. Guess what, even worse, found out there's a serious problem with the loudspeaker(s), too. When it gets into water (say down below 1m), yes, I can still see the screen coming up while receiving a call, but it's almost inaudible! Do you want me to stare at the screen all the time? Really, I'm so disappointed...
I partially agree and partially disagree. The viewing angles on the Z3 is fine, you are right, people are just digging for dirt.
I come from the Z1 so the Z3 is an amazing improvement.
Where I disagree with you is that viewing angles do matter.
It was an impossible task to get three friends to bunch up and watch a video clip on the Z1, the two in the wings saw almost nothing and they were only slightly off axis.
So it does matter when it comes to sharing media with groups.
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The LG G2 and HTC Butterfly had awesome screens in all aspects and the Z3 tops both, so not much to worry about.
How can that be possible? Isn't the screen same? I mean both are IPS panels and same resolution and pixel density.
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How can that be possible? Isn't the screen same? I mean both are IPS panels and same resolution and pixel density.
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There are more factors that determine screen quality than just what type of panel it is and what the resolution and pixel density is.
In other words: you can have two IPS screens, of the same size, resolution and pixel density, even made by the same manufacturer, but for different devices and they will have a different colour gamut, different viewing angles and diffident contrast so look very different.
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There are more factors that determine screen quality than just what type of panel it is and what the resolution and pixel density is.
In other words: you can have two IPS screens, of the same size, resolution and pixel density, even made by the same manufacturer, but for different devices and they will have a different colour gamut, different viewing angles and diffident contrast so look very different.
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Ah that's what. But since the Z3 came after the Z2, shouldn't the Z3 have a similar or better screen than the Z2 rather than having a worse one?
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Finally got to play with an Atrix yesterday. Simply put, I was shocked at how terrible the qHD screen looked.
Banding was visible from arm length, edges are extremely jagged, colors (particularly green on black) look absolutely abysmal.
Personally, I would much rather have a traditional 800x480 panel than a 960x540 pentile panel. In a side by side comparison the screen on my SLCD Incredible is miles ahead. I guess Motorola was more interested in having numbers that looked good on paper than real world performance.
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This WRGB subpixel arrangement goes a long way in explaining the issues I saw... Actually, If I'm looking at this correctly each pixel does NOT have 5 subpixels, but 4. Quadrile anyone?
Ditto! I thought I was going crazy, hearing everyone talk about how good they thought the screen looked....it looks horrible imo....
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Same here
I was horrified how bad the colors were. Just install angry birds and check the colors. It looks all washed out and dull. The same is the case with NFS shift installed.
The text in the browser does look sharp though, i have to admit. But overall pretty disappointing.
Samsung S2 , please give us some hope here in the US, and soon!
Really? The worst screen that I saw was the Nexus S SAMOLED with its unnatural exaggerated colors and the lack of sharpness..
Having owned (for a short bit) an iPhone 4, a Nexus One (for 11 months) and having played around with a Nexus S for a week, I gotta tell you I really like the Atrix screen. I will admit that viewing it from the side blows...but how often do you do that?
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Having owned (for a short bit) an iPhone 4, a Nexus One (for 11 months) and having played around with a Nexus S for a week, I gotta tell you I really like the Atrix screen. I will admit that viewing it from the side blows...but how often do you do that?
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As far as I know I don't see people using cellphones sideways.
While I'll definitely agree that it's far from the best screen ever, I don't think it's nearly bad enough to justify the number of complaints people have about it. Is it because it's the easiest flaw to point out?
Is the side view bad? I can actually see things fairly clear almost to the point of having the screen at an angle that I can't actually see the screen itself. Reading text gets impossible a fair bit before that I guess. If the viewing angle is limited on this phone, then I guess I don't often test the limits of viewing angles on other screens lol.
I don't know about you guys but I like the screen...lol, you guys must have better eyes our higher standards
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The brightness outweighs the lack in accurate color representation imo.
My iPhone 4 does a slightly better job of showing colors, but the Atrix is definitely brighter. I don't have any issues with the screen
thatoneguy247 said:
The brightness outweighs the lack in accurate color representation imo.
My iPhone 4 does a slightly better job of showing colors, but the Atrix is definitely brighter. I don't have any issues with the screen
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I used my phone last night walking the dog and it was almost TOO bright in the dark.
The screen is far from perfect, but text looks fantastic on white. Black text on white is probably the most common usage of a cell ...
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complain complain complain....the screen is great
everyone should refrain from biting on the next screen baiting post...
once again,
the biggest misconception of the atrix's screen is that its washed out. This is NOT TRUE. the screen is extremely neutral in colors. SLCD and SAMOLED all have extremely exaggerated colors and contrasts. Some people like it, some dont...its like arguing which is better..plasma or lcd.....
I'm pretty sure if you do some research almost all video enthusiasts would recommend plasma over LCD. But that's not only because of the colors but also the response rate differences.
SAMOLED has perfect blacks so of course the contrast will be higher (infinite) but the colors can also be tweaked to not be so saturated. So at least you have the option to change it, rather than having an unsaturated display that you can't increase.
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once again,
the biggest misconception of the atrix's screen is that its washed out. This is NOT TRUE. the screen is extremely neutral in colors. SLCD and SAMOLED all have extremely exaggerated colors and contrasts. Some people like it, some dont...its like arguing which is better..plasma or lcd.....
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Add me to the list.....it is UNIMPRESSING @ best!!!!
i like plasma better......lmao
I think a lot of the issues with the display are due to lack of support for the resolution.
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turn the screen up to 75% brightness and tell me its no good i have had all phones and this is up there or the best
i like the screen just fine
I run mine around 70% and it's fantastic. I'll take this "washed out" display over the one on my Captivate any day.
Judge for yourselves.
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To me that looks like the Xperia ION has it's brightness and color saturation cranked all the way up. While some people think this looks better, it hasn't have to be better though. In my opinion, the Xperia Z lacks a bit of color calibration, but IMHO this could be resolved with a simple calibration app.
I really love Sony, but Sony can only improve if I show them my love.
My Xperia Z looks like the one on the right so I'm stumped lol
I've got UK version though don't know if it's any different.
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My Xperia Z looks like the one on the right so I'm stumped lol
I've got UK version though don't know if it's any different.
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lol me too I got shocked when my Xperia Ion have deeper blacks than the Xperia Z. Thought it was a faulty unit, compared with another shop and self-concluded, Xperia Z's screen isn't as good as Xperia Ion.
R: Xperia Z vs Xperia Ion SCREEN comparison. Surprise inside!
Ion with jelly bean? What rom are you using?
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lee480 said:
I really love Sony, but Sony can only improve if I show them my love.
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It does look like a gamma calibration issue.
does android let you set the gamma settings via command line like on Linux?
eg. xgamma -gamma 1.000
Using linux as an example, it looks like the Z is set to 1.200 gamma, where .900 would suit most people's needs better.
Check it.
lowered gamma to .75
Sv: Xperia Z vs Xperia Ion SCREEN comparison. Surprise inside!
A matter of preference.. I reckon the Z has more natural colours. The Ion has everything too high for my taste.. Ever seen Samsung TV's on factory settings? Same thing. Colours boosted beyond natural. But again, some prefer it that way.. I like the Z's colour better om these pics, though the ion pops more out so to speak.
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ion has officialy has the best display on a sony smartphone
Raedek said:
A matter of preference.. I reckon the Z has more natural colours. The Ion has everything too high for my taste.. Ever seen Samsung TV's on factory settings? Same thing. Colours boosted beyond natural. But again, some prefer it that way.. I like the Z's colour better om these pics, though the ion pops more out so to speak.
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I can assure you the screen is completely washed out. Is that bad unfortunately.
lee480 said:
I can assure you the screen is completely washed out. Is that bad unfortunately.
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No, it's just you're used to over-saturated colours so when you see something thats natural it just doesn't look good enough. :good:
PraxxtorCruel said:
No, it's just you're used to over-saturated colours so when you see something thats natural it just doesn't look good enough. :good:
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Hmmm... So blacks having a grey cast is oversaturating? Interesting.
That is the weaknesa of lcd than amoled. Amoled produce better black and lcd produce better white
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Hmmm... So blacks having a grey cast is oversaturating? Interesting.
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It's been said time and time again that the wallpaper did Sony no favours. Do you even have the phone or are you here just to prove some pointless argument which most of Xperia Z owners are happy with their phone?
PraxxtorCruel said:
It's been said time and time again that the wallpaper did Sony no favours. Do you even have the phone or are you here just to prove some pointless argument which most of Xperia Z owners are happy with their phone?
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This is not some pointless thread shooting Sony. Admittance is the first step to recovery. If there's a gamma tuning problem, Sony ought to know and fix the problem. And if it's a quality problem, Sony must know it can't repeat the mistake again. Most of us here love Sony. We want Sony have its fullest potential to destroy Samsung and Apple. If everybody keeps sweeping this issue under the carpet, this screen issue is going to come back in future Sony phones.
That's just my thoughts. Critics can destroy me now.
lee480 said:
This is not some pointless thread shooting Sony. Admittance is the first step to recovery. If there's a gamma tuning problem, Sony ought to know and fix the problem. And if it's a quality problem, Sony must know it can't repeat the mistake again. Most of us here love Sony. We want Sony have its fullest potential to destroy Samsung and Apple. If everybody keeps sweeping this issue under the carpet, this screen issue is going to come back in future Sony phones.
That's just my thoughts. Critics can destroy me now.
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Agreed, apart from the destruction bit
All my complaints over the Z are not just *****ing about the screen and the camera. I believe they are two issues which can be sorted out by software and Sony should admit it and fix it. The screen will always have poor viewing angles, but please sort out the gamma/colours.
My phone is uk and my screen looks nothing like that. Mine is great
lee480 said:
This is not some pointless thread shooting Sony. Admittance is the first step to recovery. If there's a gamma tuning problem, Sony ought to know and fix the problem. And if it's a quality problem, Sony must know it can't repeat the mistake again. Most of us here love Sony. We want Sony have its fullest potential to destroy Samsung and Apple. If everybody keeps sweeping this issue under the carpet, this screen issue is going to come back in future Sony phones.
That's just my thoughts. Critics can destroy me now.
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I've just loaded both wallpapers on to the lockscreen on my UK sim-free Z and it really does look nothing like yours.The colours are more vivid on my device although not as saturated as on your Ion, which has it's contrast too high IMO - the colours are more realistic on my Z (eg. the colour of the sky looks like sky whereas it's too much on your Ion).
I have to turn my Z to an extreme angle to make it look like yours.
It is good to see others are recognizing this screen is barely adequate.
I was starting to get tired of being called a troll for simply making accurate and factual statements.
i recieved my xperia z yesterday and to be honest was very fearful with reading all these reviews but i really have no issue with my phone the screen is nothing short of great friend of mine who uses iphone 5 even made comment on the clarity of the screen.
I understand why people are making comments on viewing angles but to be honest i cant understand how anyone with half a brain would use their phone on an angle lol i mean come on guys whats going on. watching movies on screen so small i really dont know why anyone would do that i cant even watch a movie on those old 68cm screen tvs anything under 42 inches and your just wasting your viewing pleasure, the screen is amazing so all of you who are holding back your missing out
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z2_D6502_D6503_D6543_WP_3.pdf
According the newest version of Z2 white paper, I found out that has removed the "IPS" word......omg,.. how could Sony do that....
actually Z2 Tablet also removed the "IPS" word....
Haha...piece of sh** - for me who has Z1..
16Gb internal memory, only 3Gb RAM and now without IPS screen...
Really couldn't find one reason why should I sell Z1 and buy this, "Z1 plus"
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funky0308 said:
Haha...piece of sh** - for me who has Z1..
16Gb internal memory, only 3Gb RAM and now without IPS screen...
Really couldn't find one reason why should I sell Z1 and buy this, "Z1 plus"
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Their TRILUMINOS tech actually uses in-plane switching, so they are IPS.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/features/#Display
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Their TRILUMINOS tech actually uses in-plane switching, so they are IPS.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/features/#Display
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New TRILUMINUS logo/line..
TRILUMINUS - SEE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EVEN THERE[emoji768].... Haha
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Sony fans trolling Sony fans :silly:
It says IPS in the site though.,
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http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z2_D6502_D6503_D6543_WP_3.pdf
According the newest version of Z2 white paper, I found out that has removed the "IPS" word......omg,.. how could Sony do that....
actually Z2 Tablet also removed the "IPS" word....
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I have the First Version of the file from February which also doesn't contain the word IPS anywhere, but still it is confirmed that Z2 will be using an IPS TFT panel for sure. Please check the display comparison videos on YouTube with the new HTC ONE (M8) which uses SLCD3 display and Z2 fairs much better in color reproduction and deep blacks almost to the level of AMOLED
Lol, this stupid thread should be deleted. :good:
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It says IPS in the site though.,
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I know that also...........
but should we trust Whitepaper?
because white paper should be more update than standard webiste? isnt it
SolidR53 said:
Their TRILUMINOS tech actually uses in-plane switching, so they are IPS.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/features/#Display
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Triluminos display for mobile is not a type of technology.... infact, it is just a name......
and how about xperia Z1? it is saying triluminos also, then how come it is only MVA
:crying::crying:
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Lol, this stupid thread should be deleted. :good:
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I Agree delete this thread............more scaremongering...
nikola1970 said:
Lol, this stupid thread should be deleted. :good:
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HOW stupid is this thread? huh?
I am just trying to tell about the truth that I just discovered today in Sony whitepaper page.
What did I do? huh?
tonylcc said:
HOW stupid is this thread? huh?
I am just trying to tell about the truth that I just discovered today in Sony whitepaper page.
What did I do? huh?
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You discovered something in the whitepaper and made unsubstanciated claims about the Z2's screen, that does NOT make it the truth
It was on the specification sheets at MCW 2014 and the Sony's representatives spoke about it too & it was mentioned in Sony's MCW press event, it's on the spec sheet on Sony's website and their Stores........
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You discovered something in the whitepaper and made unsubstanciated claims about the Z2's screen, that does NOT make it the truth
It was on the specification sheets at MCW 2014 and the Sony's representatives spoke about it too & it was mentioned in Sony's MCW press event, it's on the spec sheet on Sony's website and their Stores........
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But the word "IPS" was in the initial version release in the white paper, but how come it disappear now?
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But the word "IPS" was in the initial version release in the white paper, but how come it disappear now?
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I really dont know why, it's weird.
But the Sony Xperia Z2 is an SLCD 3 using IPS technology by Sony making it an IPS display
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I really dont know why, it's weird.
But the Sony Xperia Z2 is an SLCD 3 using IPS technology by Sony making it an IPS display
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How sure are you with that?
Xperia Z1 also did 5 versions of screen as I remember
Xperia Z Ultra also not all stock are using IPS
so cant Z2 also like this ?:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
tonylcc said:
How sure are you with that?
Xperia Z1 also did 5 versions of screen as I remember
Xperia Z Ultra also not all stock are using IPS
so cant Z2 also like this ?:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Well basically , 99% of all the Specification websites I use, all the reviews, previews, hands on's and unboxing's have all stated it and the other 1% just did not metion it at all.
NOT 1 single website I use have stated that the Xperia's Z2 screen is NOT an IPS display....go figure..
One example is this video which might make you happy....I hope,
it's Erica Griffin one of the most well informed, qualified and critical reviewers on the planet stating that the Z2 has an IPS display at 1:19 , check it out:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dviYRetmjTQ
I have had various htc's and samsung's and always liked the xda forums very much, lots of smart helpfull people working together to develop and make the device better. Now, after a year with my xperia z i still can't get my head around the fact that the sony forums are full of morons and cry babies...
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Well basically , 99% of all the Specification websites I use, all the reviews, previews, hands on's and unboxing's have all stated it and the other 1% just did not metion it at all.
NOT 1 single website I use have stated that the Xperia's Z2 screen is NOT an IPS display....go figure..
One example is this video which might make you happy....I hope,
it's Erica Griffin one of the most well informed, qualified and critical reviewers on the planet stating that the Z2 has an IPS display at 1:19 , check it out:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dviYRetmjTQ
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Yea very true, I also like her cause she is very non-biased reviewer so you can actually depend on what she tells.
and we also saw on phonearena that the display is very good in colours and all, so I don't think that it's just the normal TFT panel they previously used. Let's see after this month once people get it in their hands and more reviews will be out in the web.
Just because the Whitepapers don't mention IPS doesn't mean the screen isn't IPS.
Also, Triluminous Technology has nothing to do with whether a screen is IPS or not.
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Hi guys,
Similar to Pureminds M7 and M8 screen comparison I got my good M8 (as opposed to the yellow bad M8) and put it up against my Z2.
I must say that I am very impressed with the overall quality of the Z2s screen. Great white balance and contrast, but the colours are as we expected blown out. Even with x-reality off. Brightness was almost as good and viewing angles similar.
I used Display Tester from the Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester&hl=en
Now before I get ripped on I must say that my testing is NOT scientific like Pureminds but just my eyes looking.
I have also attached the two M8s comparison to see how they compare. The Z2 comparison M8 is the whiter/cooler phone.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5ty5HwG0mjCRGRxcFU2cGI4OHc&usp=sharing
M8s https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5ty5HwG0mjCcV9KX0NBbVFLUEU&usp=sharing
Wow! thanks for the comparison.
Z2 screen is really amazing. There's actually a differences between M8, Z2 gives a much more natural vibrant colours.
Wtf m8 screen is so much nicer, just look at pictures, omg. Sony needs another step in display
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Hi guys,
Similar to Pureminds M7 and M8 screen comparison I got my good M8 (as opposed to the yellow bad M8) and put it up against my Z2.
I must say that I am very impressed with the overall quality of the Z2s screen. Great white balance and contrast, but the colours are as we expected blown out. Even with x-reality off. Brightness was almost as good and viewing angles similar.
I used Display Tester from the Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester&hl=en
Now before I get ripped on I must say that my testing is NOT scientific like Pureminds but just my eyes looking.
I have also attached the two M8s comparison to see how they compare. The Z2 comparison M8 is the whiter/cooler phone.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5ty5HwG0mjCRGRxcFU2cGI4OHc&usp=sharing
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From what you've shown, the Z2 is able to show colours (look at the flowers and the main red test, M8 red looks orange) better while the M8 has better brightness. the contrasts however look comparable.
Additionally though could you include the banding, contrast and saturation tests as well please? (Or for convenience the all in one test)
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From what you've shown, the Z2 is able to show colours (look at the flowers and the main red test, M8 red looks orange) better while the M8 has better brightness. the contrasts however look comparable.
Additionally though could you include the banding, contrast and saturation tests as well please? (Or for convenience the all in one test)
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This is orange, not red
Watch photo with rose, on htc red is red
I could see more detail of the red flower on the Z2.
I will take more photos when I can. I ran out of time. I gave my dad the M8.
Have you turned off the automatic brightness?
Both on full brightness. M8 was slightly brighter. It's interesting that the Z2 has such low auto brightness values too.
Z2 got the better screen
Xperia Z2's display is bit dimmer compare to M8 but blacks are better and also red colour really pops up spite that M8 looks better overall
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Show us both phones with the same image. IMHO I like both screens a lot but z2 is my personal favourite.
I love the screen on my m8 but I bought the z2 the other day and couldn't believe that the z2 has a nice screen. Side by side my m8s screen has a blue tint to it. Looking at the same pics the contrast is better on the z2 and that is with the x reality feature off. Very nice screen on the z2
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Anyone have a stuck pixel? I have a green one that appears when it's booting up.
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Anyone have a stuck pixel? I have a green one that appears when it's booting up.
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I had a green stuck pixel, it's easy to spot on a black background with full brightness. I've since exchanged it and no stuck pixels this time but I have a gap between the glass and bezel in the bottom left corner. Awaiting a new exchange, here's to hoping that 3rd will be a charm.
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My Z2 has a very visible digitizer pattern on screen not only when seen under the sun but also indoors with direct sources of light. Among a few other faults this was one of the things I would have expected Z3 to fix but this is not the case. While surfing Z3 pictures found a pattern similar to the Z2's.
EDIT: Also wanted to add that my HTC M8 has no such problem there seems to be no digitizer patterns on the screen under any source of light.
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My Nexus 5 was no worse than this, granted that phone was "cheaper" but still..
Only people with OCD consider this a problem... Keep shining that light, I see you I see you
Why that bothers you?
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Only people with OCD consider this a problem... Keep shining that light, I see you I see you
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Why that bothers you?
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For my Z2 this happens to be a problem, when text is being overlapped by these patterns it creates a sort of aliasing effect granted this only happens with white background and black text but still.
I used many phones, and belive me. I have high demand and standards. And dosent bother me at all.
I saw that on my Xperia arc, arc s, Xperia S, Xperia z and now on z1.
No single aliasing made by that digitizer.
You have defected phone, or you have really sensitive eyes.
Trust me the only way the OP sees this is by flashing a flashlight right on it.. i've head a lot of people talk about this but no one's actually affected by it
Yes.. you can see only with direct flashlight on it, or direct sunlight but you must go with that in mind to see it.
Regular use will not see that.
it's no difference than AMOLED pentile displays like the ones found on many of the samsung galaxy phones. almost any display you will always see things if you shine bright light on it while the display is off. of course this is not really a problem because people don't tend to stare at their phones while the screen is off.
While I agree it's not that big of a deal, I was surprised to see it. First phone in a long time that had it this noticeable.
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While I agree it's not that big of a deal, I was surprised to see it. First phone in a long time that had it this noticeable.
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The reason why the digitizer could be seen is because of the no-gap display that they have made between the screen and the digitizer, allowing higher sensitivity on the screen itself (which is helpful for some people), and also reducing reflection/refraction from light source.
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The reason why the digitizer could be seen is because of the no-gap display that they have made between the screen and the digitizer, allowing higher sensitivity on the screen itself (which is helpful for some people), and also reducing reflection/refraction from light source.
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If thats they case they are doing a terrible job, the screen is very reflective.
It is supposed to reduce reflection during usage of the phone when it is turned on. Most glass panels are reflective when there's no surface lighting on it.
Not sure of they are doing a good job with that
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I've just heard the digitizer is quite prominent on the Z3. A Google search has lead me here.
Strangley, in the past I had a noticeable digitizer in sunlight on a replacement Nexus 4. It's the only phone that has had it, so it was obviously a mistake in the manufacturing somehow as I've replaced screens and had replacement Nexus 4's and 5's. It did annoy me. Yes, most of the time you wouldn't see it, but in the summer, you'll often see it and detracts from what you're looking at on the screen. Looking at a screen in sunlight is already pretty crap in that you can't see it very well. But then to have an electronic grid staring back at you is even more annoying.
This has unfortunately put me off a Z3 and it's another excuse for me to upgrade my N5 to an N6.
I also noticed this on my Nexus 5, and now I see it on the Z3 as well. It doesn't bother me when the screen is on though. Pixels look smooth for me. Perhaps you have your screen less than 50% brightness?
Really not an issue unless you plan on shining a torch on your phone screen...seriously do we worry about something which is small?
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I did not notice it, I guess you have to be actively looking for it.
Its not a big deal at all. Screen functions very well inspite of it
Adding my voice to the "It's not an issue" crowd. Seriously, the M8 also had the digitiser panel you could see if you looked under the right light.