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Beware if you buy parts from Global Direct Parts

Anybody looking to buy parts from Global Direct Parts .com beware of them, it's a scam.
I placed an order for 4 ribbon cables for HD2 phones on a sat. The next monday I wanted to add something the said it was already processed, so I had to place another order and pay shipping.
They FAQ says they can reduce min quantities if I buy at least $ 125 of parts, so I add a LCD and place order. They cancelled since now they want $ 149 min. They also went over and changed their web site, so I cannot prove anything.
After 2 weeks my parts are not here, so I call and a wiseguy said I still have to wait until the next 2 days since it was still processing.
The next day they email me they lost my package.
I reply demanding they ship another with Express delivery to make up for the poor service.
They decline and want to issue a refund, and guess what, price on items has gone up (what a coincidence).
I emailed today asking where is my refund (paid with Paypal) and they stated it takes 2 BUSINESS days to issue it.
I placed a claim on Paypal and they emailed back threaten me to stall refund indefinitely unless I remove the claim.
Sorry for this long rant, but such a poor customer service place shouldn't be allowed to do business. I invite anybody NOT to use this place.
They also falsely claim they have all the parts in USA, while they actually dropship from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong.
Beware guys !!!

Wow. That sux
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I will agree. Terrible customer service. They say they have new or "a" stock.... the "a" stock are used parts, including damaged and unusable. the others are just in poor shape. then there's the problem with them making you pay to ship their junk back, even after it has been determined to be their error. that's just shady. then the total bs they call customer service... if your lucky to get someone, they are uneducated and clueless about anything going on. good luck trying to get answers or some management to reply to you. i own a repair shop and have spent (wasted) thousands of dollars with these losers.
BEWARE AND AVOID!!!!!

thanks will know

I bought 10 Ffc and no problem I'm sorry you had pRoblems with them
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I bought a Samsung Captivate housing almost a year ago and it took about 5 days to get it. Part was new with no scratches at all.
Had no problem with them

I have bought some FFC's from them before and didnt have any issue. Good to know though if I do anything through them in the future!

I bought some. Speakers for an evo 4g about 8 months ago and all went well. About a month or 2 later I got emails from them saying that they had a major employee leave and not to trust emails coming from a. Similar company.

I had a great experience with them and the parts were perfect
Hi All,
It seems that this company went through a bit of a struggle at some point. Being a business owner myself I know that dealing with the public is not always easy especially when you have employees that are not the right fit. You can only do your best and learn from your mistakes and successes.
I just purchased tablet frames from them and they were perfect, the customer service was perfect and I am going to their website now to purchase more. I found some really hard to find products in new condition and at a great price. Personally my experience was great and I would highly recommend them. Definitely NOT a scam. They delivered.
Lance

Clay333 said:
I bought some. Speakers for an evo 4g about 8 months ago and all went well. About a month or 2 later I got emails from them saying that they had a major employee leave and not to trust emails coming from a. Similar company.
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I think it is true that maybe a competitor is trying to sabotage them. I saw the same exact review plastered across several different review sites. I just got parts from Global Direct Parts recently. While I can't say the parts are so good, the customer service was very rapid and good. Apparently they sent an aftermarket that was suppose to be OEM. The customer service agent said the Huawei OEM parts are hard to come by and they usually get it out of refurbished phones now and some might have been refurbished before with aftermarket parts that they didn't end up catching. They immediately refunded me saying since the OEM parts is hard to come by, there is a good chance I'll get another aftermarket.
The other 3 parts they sent are good and as described. I would definitely do business with the company again.

Expansys UK..

...really are a Company I have concerns about. Last night at 11pm they had '100+' in stock of the HTC One. By 6am this morning they were 'stock due in 4 days'. Really? Or is this just a great way to get people to order an item they then find is out of stock.
I speak from experience of having waited 2 months for this Company to refund me for an HTC ONE X+ that I returned within 3 days of receipt. The reason for this delay? There wasn't one. I called them approx 3 times per week to be continually told the refund was being processed, however after 7 weeks I finally got the honest truth.... They hadn't taken any action at all and had simply not actioned the refund because they had mislaid my card details.
Treat with extreme caution

sorcerer1 said:
...really are a Company I have concerns about. Last night at 11pm they had '100+' in stock of the HTC One. By 6am this morning they were 'stock due in 4 days'. Really? Or is this just a great way to get people to order an item they then find is out of stock.
I speak from experience of having waited 2 months for this Company to refund me for an HTC ONE X+ that I returned within 3 days of receipt. The reason for this delay? There wasn't one. I called them approx 3 times per week to be continually told the refund was being processed, however after 7 weeks I finally got the honest truth.... They hadn't taken any action at all and had simply not actioned the refund because they had mislaid my card details.
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So with all the issues you had before you go ahead and order from them again?? ::confused

Expansys are the official HTC accessories company for UK.
I have no experience of ordering phone from them, but have bought numerous genuine HTC accessories from them.
My experience has been positive, one recent purchase was HTC flip case, after receiving my order , without contacting them I received an email advisory that a improved version was available, and without any extra charge was sent to me.
So whilst not discounting your experience, I have really good service and consequently wouldn't hesitate to buy from them in future
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I tend to agree, I have previously enjoyed ordering items from them but since last summer they seem to have made a turn for the worst. I never received a 32 GB sdcard and despite emailing them several times I never did get a refund. Also I ordered a galaxy note 10.1 for Christmas and they didn't dispatch in time for Christmas.......because they were waiting for the sdcard to come back in stock..... .hello!
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daleski75 said:
So with all the issues you had before you go ahead and order from them again?? ::confused
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No way but I have to admit I was tempted. Pleased I didn't!

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No way but I have to admit I was tempted. Pleased I didn't!
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Sorry mis-read your original post so my apologies.... note to self grab a coffee and wake up before replying!

its really bizarre, as some retailers don't have any issues with stock whilst some are playing this trick the OP mentioned.. Wifey ordered from Very and she is still waiting.. I thought the stock issues should have been sorted out by now.. I can feel your pain..

Unfortunately, they have a bad system. The only way I was able to understand it was like this: Say they have 120 backorders, and you were customer number 101 from those 120. They then receive 100 units, instead of shipping them directly, they update their inventory/system that they received 100 units, hence their website show 100 in stack, but then they ship them to the 100 customers and stock is finished. The balance 20 backorders will have to wait for a new batch!

ASUS Warranty FAIL

I got my Nexus 7 for Christmas. Immediately after using it I started having random reboot issues, as well as touch screen response problems. I requested an RMA and paid to have it shipped to ASUS. I received my device a little over two weeks later. I couldn't tell you if the reboot issue is fixed or not, because I haven't used the device at all. After pulling it out of the box I noticed that the bezel was cracked and missing a piece on the bottom left side of my device.
What kind of horrible Quality Control process does ASUS have when they repair a device?! Obviously they broke it while opening it up to replace whatever they replaced internally (motherboard maybe?). I sent an email to ASUS immediately after noticing the problem and said I wanted them to repair it ASAP and that I would not be paying for shipping again. I have not received a response, but received an automated message providing me with a new RMA number. No email from a customer service representative apologizing or offering to cover my shipping costs.
I'm pretty annoyed with Google/ASUS and don't think i'll ever buy an ASUS product again.
Just though I'd share to warn anyone else who may be on the fence.

Why was it not taken to the establishment that sold the device? Google or Asus should be your last step not the first, it's like you people are just looking for reading to cry about now
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z0phi3l said:
Why was it not taken to the establishment that sold the device? Google or Asus should be your last step not the first, it's like you people are just looking for reading to cry about now
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Because I bought the device online through an ebay retailer. Therefore Asus was my first step.

z0phi3l said:
Why was it not taken to the establishment that sold the device? Google or Asus should be your last step not the first, it's like you people are just looking for reading to cry about now
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You know they knew it was broken and they prolly wont help him.

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Because I bought the device online through an ebay retailer. Therefore Asus was my first step.
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The seller is still the first step, could have had a new replacement and not a refurbished replacement
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z0phi3l said:
The seller is still the first step, could have had a new replacement and not a refurbished replacement
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Thanks for taking the time to participate in my thread. You've been a huge help!

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Thanks for taking the time to participate in my thread. You've been a huge help!
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He's right though. If you are within 30 days (or whatever the return window is), always exchange it for a new device. RMA should be a last resort. I just went through this with Dell with my Venue 8 Pro. I called Dell for tech support and they wanted me to send it in. I told them there was no way in hell I was sending a brand new tablet in for repair and I am just going to exchange it through Amazon. What amused me is that they insisted I don't do that and send it in to Dell. I told them to suck it.
With the situation you are in, I would keep calling Asus until you get ahold of someone who is actually helpful. I've never dealt with them before so I don't know how hard a task that may or may not be. Where was the tablet purchased from? If it was from Google, you might want to call them and explain the situation, they have seriously awesome customer service.

z0phi3l said:
Why was it not taken to the establishment that sold the device? Google or Asus should be your last step not the first, it's like you people are just looking for reading to cry about now
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While I agree in principle, taking it back to the dealer first doesn't always work. Best Buy for example, has a 14 day limit. I bought my Transformer Prime from a company that simply refused to do replacements or returns (on the Prime specifically, for the record.. they must have heard in advance of the problems with that device...). It's even worse with Google because although it's a Google device - made for Google and sold on their website as their product - if you buy it ANYWHERE but from Play, they won't touch it.
I hate to make the obvious comparison but... consider iPad owners. Regardless from whom they buy the tablet - they can take it to any Apple Store or have it returned to Apple for repair. For them, Apple is the FIRST place you go unless you're returning it for a refund. And in general, Apple actually fixes the defective device (if it's within warranty period or if you have AppleCare) without giving the customer a hassle.
The guy's complaint is basically 'why can't ASUS be that good' - your response seems to be 'because they aren't.' More to the point, consider what you're actually suggesting: that ASUS is such a poor company to deal with that you shouldn't deal with them until you're out of options. Worse, you're suggesting that this is OK and that the guy is at fault for expecting the company that makes his tablet to be responsive and helpful.
That's kind of.. bizarre.

z0phi3l said:
Why was it not taken to the establishment that sold the device? Google or Asus should be your last step not the first, it's like you people are just looking for reading to cry about now
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Yeah, its his fault that someone else damaged his tablet, right?
XDA users are so rude these days...

Swiss asus repair is pretty good. Got 2 tablet with defects and they fixed it in 2 and 3 weeks.
It depends where you send it for repair.

Asus repair issues? First I've heard of that...
Being in the computer retail and service industry, I sell MANY asus monitors, and I've had great success with them not having issues. Only twice have I had to deal with customer service, and in both instances they sent me replacement monitors and a shipping label to return the defective units.
That's a real shame you've had a bad experience with them, and as someone suggested, call customer service and request a higher level tech support/customer service agent until you are satisfied.
For future reference, do that for every customer service line you ever have to call, EVER.

While browsing, I found this report about a user's abysmal experience with the Asus customer support for a RMA'd N7 2013:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/rlSedvctvIg

Moto X returns, worst customer service.

Hi, I requested a refund for my Moto X and received a return label on the December 29, sent the phone by UPS and the received it on the December 30, it took until the January 9 for them just to process in the system so they can refund the money. I called customer service and they told me its going to take another 5-10 business days just to receive the refund. This is the worst customer service I have seen. Does anyone had good experience with them?

Seems pretty standard for an online purchase to me. Keep in mind they are probably dealing with more than usual due to the holiday season. I buy crap online all the time and on the rare occasion I have to return something, 2 weeks is pretty much the standard time frame to get the credit but sometimes it takes a little longer. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Amazon would be the sole exception. They usually get refunds credited back in under a week.
I've dealt with Motorola's customer service on more than one occasion and have had nothing but positive experiences.

_MetalHead_ said:
Seems pretty standard for an online purchase to me. Keep in mind they are probably dealing with more than usual due to the holiday season. I buy crap online all the time and on the rare occasion I have to return something, 2 weeks is pretty much the standard time frame to get the credit but sometimes it takes a little longer. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Amazon would be the sole exception. They usually get refunds credited back in under a week.
I've dealt with Motorola's customer service on more than one occasion and have had nothing but positive experiences.
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Yes that's why I tell people if YOU can try buying your products in stores with cash. That way any issue or you not liking the product you get will either get a swap right then and there and you can check it before you walk out the store or get your money back right then and there boom done deal...

5-10 business days is the standard time limit for a card transaction refund to get processed through the provider, IIRC. You could well get the refund in less time.

You'll be very lucky if you do get it in 5-10 business days. When I ordered my first one, I got it for ATT by mistake and it took a month and a half to get my money back from Motorola. There are tons of stories on how bad their $$ department is. I just finally got mine from ATT and called it a day.

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Hi, I requested a refund for my Moto X and received a return label on the December 29, sent the phone by UPS and the received it on the December 30, it took until the January 9 for them just to process in the system so they can refund the money. I called customer service and they told me its going to take another 5-10 business days just to receive the refund. This is the worst customer service I have seen. Does anyone had good experience with them?
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Let me know how it goes for you! They received my Moto X December 15th and I still haven't been refunded. After talking to multiple people I have heard different stories. Someone said Moto Can't refund me since I didn't buy the phone from them (I did). Another said they refunded me already, supposedly before I even STARTED the process. Today a manager said that they already did everything on there end and it was Motorola credit who needs to refund me now, but after talking to them they said they haven't received the refund authorization from Motorola, and I should give it ANOTHER month...
I love Moto products, but I will never buy anything from the website again, its all local or Amazon for me now.

if you ship anything back to Motorola, you can hand it to a Fedex/kinko's employee to get a receipt with a tracking number. You'd be a fool not to do this. if i'd skipped that step i'd be screwed right now. Here's why:
i called motorola on the 2nd of january to ask if i could wait until my second replacement phone arrived (on the 3rd) to ship them both back at once. they said this would me fine and that i had nothing to worry about.
then i recieved this email on the 6th.
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Dear [removed by me],
Your malfunctioning phone still has not arrived at our Moto Care service center.Please use the pre-paid label that arrived with your replacement phone and ship back to us ASAP to avoid being charged for the replacement phone.This is the final reminder before you're charged the amount of the your security deposit + applicable taxes. If you're having trouble sendingyour phone, please contact us at (800) 734-5870 Monday- Friday from 7AM-10PM, Saturday- Sunday 9AM-6PM CT.
Serial Number: [removed by me]
Thank you,
Your Moto Care Team
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so i called, and in my case i had returned two phones, so i gave them two tracking numbers. the lady informed me that my phones were both received on the 5th and that the email was a mistake and i would not be charged.
-but then on the 11th, i received this:
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Dear [removed by me],
Hello. Since we did not receive your malfunctioning phone at our Moto Care service center within the allowable time period,You will see this charge on an upcoming credit card statement. Please do not attempt to return your malfunctioning phone at this time.If you have any questions please give us a call at 800-734-5870 Monday - Friday from 7AM-10PM, Saturday - Sunday 9AM-6PM CT.
Serial Number: [removed by me]
Thank you,
Your Moto Care Team
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there was no amount on the email, it just said i "will see this charge".
so angry, i called back to get an idiot that couldn't understand english, said "what" constantly and made me repeat everything to the point that the people around me could not stop laughing... so i hung up and called back. the second guy was much better. definately Indian, but that's fine as long as we can understand each other. he said Motorola had one of my two returned Moto x 2014's marked as a Moto G. He corrected that for me and then yesterday, the 12th, i received this email, twice:
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Dear [removed by me],
Good news! Your device has arrived safely and is in our hands. We hope you are enjoying your replacement device.
If you need any help or have questions, give us a call. We're standing by at 800-734-5870 Monday - Friday from 7AM-10PM, Saturday - Sunday 9AM-6PM CT.
Serial Number : [removed by me]
Motorola Tracking Number (RMA) : [removed by me]
Best Regards,
Your Moto Care Team
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my credit card statement is a weird mix of motorola charges and refunds right now.
01/13/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise -$696.88
01/13/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise $136.56
01/13/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise $136.56
01/12/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise $546.25
^all those show as pending, and I'm still waiting to see how this plays out. something will change. the way that reads i've only been charged $121 total for the two replacements.
without that tracking number though, i'd be in a world of hurt since they mislabeled my returned phone as a moto G.
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draco259 said:
They received my Moto X December 15th and I still haven't been refunded........after talking to them they said they haven't received the refund authorization from Motorola, and I should give it ANOTHER month...
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you definitely should not give it another month. at a minimum you should contact your credit card company and at least discuss this with them so there is a record of your problem. personally if i were waiting for a refund that long i would have my credit card company get my money back. last time i had a similar issue, it was with a bum seller on amazon, and i was told to wait to file a dispute. i don't like waiting for idiots, so i called Chase and got my money back in about 5 minutes.

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you definitely should not give it another month. at a minimum you should contact your credit card company and at least discuss this with them so there is a record of your problem. personally if i were waiting for a refund that long i would have my credit card company get my money back. last time i had a similar issue, it was with a bum seller on amazon, and i was told to wait to file a dispute. i don't like waiting for idiots, so i called Chase and got my money back in about 5 minutes.
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I would, but it is through their credit service, so they don't seem to crazy about doing anything on their end. As of now I have not made any payments on it though, and informed them that I wont, since I haven't had the phone in my hand since the first week of December. They now admit that they have the phone, but still wont tell me anything about the status of the return.

I returned my Moto X last week. Never got an e-mail saying that received it (they did though, per FedEX tracking). Hopefully this **** doesn't take forever. I plan on calling Monday and seeing whats what. Too bad I used their CC to purchase it, but I imagine the bank the card is issued through could help it things get out of hand (well, hopefully).

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I returned my Moto X last week. Never got an e-mail saying that received it (they did though, per FedEX tracking). Hopefully this **** doesn't take forever. I plan on calling Monday and seeing whats what. Too bad I used their CC to purchase it, but I imagine the bank the card is issued through could help it things get out of hand (well, hopefully).
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might be in for ride, I returned my Moto X 2014 back in Nov. and they received it on Nov. 26th and it took until Jan 4th to get my refund, it was a total cluster F***

2003vstrom said:
might be in for ride, I returned my Moto X 2014 back in Nov. and they received it on Nov. 26th and it took until Jan 4th to get my refund, it was a total cluster F***
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The lady on the phone when I did the RMA said it could take 3-4 weeks. I talked to an agent online and they said it was already processed. Buuuut no refund has been posted. So, who knows. Its hard to believe their CS is this terrible/slow.

I think people can be passive in till it happens to them then let the flames post fly!
For me to be able to order a great phone, design it on Moto Maker, wait with excitement and in a week have a great phone and a pretty amazing customer experience!
But for me I was sent 2 phone instead of one so I had to return one and then I had a screen glass break a few weeks later and they made a new Moto X then I had to return the broken one. Both returns just as bad as the other.
What is frustrating is you dealing with a state of the art process on the design, build and buy process. But the return, customer support return process is a mess.
3rd party out of country call centers make the returns a train wreck, agents have zero common sense, lack the ability of problem solving and just have no real thought process.
When I get to other departments in US I am treated OK and follow up is good.
Motorola cant learn from Amazon! Had a return and Amazon had a UPS driver to my house next day with a return label ready, advance the credit before they even got the item back and follow up one they have the item.
Take care of your customers and the customers stay loyal to the brand.
That is why Amazon is Amazon.

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3rd party out of country call centers make the returns a train wreck, agents have zero common sense, lack the ability of problem solving and just have no real thought process.
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This is so true. I had to do an exchange of a device I purchased with a Cyber Monday code due to a leather back adhesive issue. First the Indian rep told me the return policy was 14 business days, which of course it is not. Then she insisted there was no way to do an exchange for the same price since the code had expired. I pointed out on their website they have the instructions for a secured exchange but she said it would not work because of the code.
So I asked for someone in the US and was transferred. Of course they could do the exchange at the Cyber Monday price.
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When I get to other departments in US I am treated OK and follow up is good.
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Yeah, you have to ask to be transferred to the US reps.

JulesJam said:
So I asked for someone in the US and was transferred. Of course they could do the exchange at the Cyber Monday price.
Yeah, you have to ask to be transferred to the US reps.
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i did not know we could ask to be transferred. my god dealing with overseas reps is a nightmare.
if its not on the script that they read they do not know what to do.

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i did not know we could ask to be transferred. my god dealing with overseas reps is a nightmare.
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Ask if you can speak to someone in a higher level of customer care - they transfer you to the US.

JulesJam said:
Ask if you can speak to someone in a higher level of customer care - they transfer you to the US.
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my 85th call to customer care just was answered by a white lady in wisconsin. she was very nice and easy to deal with.
but back to reality.. i can't even begin to explain how much i hate calling these people. now that i've finally been emailed that i'll be credited, it's for the wrong amount.
they say 3-5 days to get my money back, now 7 days later, they send me this:
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Hello Robert
Thank you for contact Motorola in regards to your refund for in the amount of 409.69 We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
Your case has been submitted to our financial department. As soon as we have a resolution we will contact you with a confirmation email.
Should you have any questions or need any further assistance, please reply to this email or call us at 800-734-5870 . If calling please mention your incident number.
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that WOULD be great, but they dont need to refund me $409. they owe me $546. not to mention that's 546 i just paid interest on because my credit card statement was issued on the 28th. and i've been arguing about this since december now.
i'm like the easiest going happy go lucky care free person you'll ever meet, unless you're like these mototards. next time i break a phone i'm buying a screen online and fixing it myself. i don't even care if it costs more than having them fix it. it'll be faster and far less effort than dealing with these people.
i would advise anyone with a broken screen to send their phone in and wait instead of doing the "advanced replacement option" -they suck. there's just too many people involved in too many different countries to make it a smooth and painless process.

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i would advise anyone with a broken screen to send their phone in and wait instead of doing the "advanced replacement option" -they suck. there's just too many people involved in too many different countries to make it a smooth and painless process.
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My experience was just the opposite of yours. I mailed back my Moto X 2014 with the messed up leather back on day 10 and by day 15 I received a credit.

JulesJam said:
My experience was just the opposite of yours. I mailed back my Moto X 2014 with the messed up leather back on day 10 and by day 15 I received a credit.
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well I must admit, i'm a bit jealous.
i received this email today, and now i dont know if im getting the $406, or the $136, or hopefully both, as that's the amount they owe me. if they can't figure it out by friday i'm just calling capital one to get my money refunded. i LOVE the phone, but definitely not the customer service. i've wasted hours on a simple credit that was supposed to happen automatically.
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Hello Robert
Thank you for contact Motorola in regards to your refund for in the amount of 136.56 We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
Your case has been submitted to our financial department. As soon as we have a resolution we will contact you with a confirmation email.
Should you have any questions or need any further assistance, please reply to this email or call us at 800-734-5870 . If calling please mention your incident number.
Thank you for contacting Motorola and have a wonderful day!
Sincerely,
xxxxx
Order Administration Liaison
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-which was their response to my telling them that the refund amount they listed is wrong in my message below
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Customer By Email (Robert xxxxxxx) 01/31/2015 05:26 PM
Hello xxxx.
I’ve already been charged 136.56 twice, which is correct since I have returned two broken phones.
The other charge of $546.25 is what the refund amount should be. $546.25, not $409.69.
If you only refund the 409, that would mean I paid the 136.56 three times instead of twice.
I have included a screenshot of my capital one statement so you can see the three charges that have posted to my credit card account.
please let me know if you need any additional
information from me.
sincerely,
robert xxxxxxx
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i took it up with my credit card company now. it's been over a month and a half trying to deal with motorola. my credit card company thanked me for my detailed record keeping and i got my refund instantly. i kinda feel like a **** because i REALLY LIKE motorola, but in the end it's my money they're playing games with. i'm nice, but im not a fool. i'm not going to pay interest on $546 two months in a row. they also refunded the $19 interest charge.
again this all started because they mistakingly marked my returned bamboo moto x as a moto g. ever since i been getting passed around from department to department.

RMA in UK for an in2020??

So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!

You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP. Also, the IN2020 model is the Chinese variant, so won't be covered by warranty in the UK.

Yes this is what i thought regarding the CH variant, just went through the repair steps on UK oneplus site and looked like it was going to let me return it? didn't complete though as i haven't got a temp phone yet.
A PP claim would involve a full refund tho and i'm not sure i need to do that? Could maybe save some quids though as the 8pro is £70 cheaper now

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You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP.
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PayPal will only cover a SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) claim if the fault was already there when the item was first received. It is not a warranty.

In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.

r3k0 said:
In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.
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Go PayPal buddy, UK will return it I would have thought, they won't have parts, my OnePlus 5 went to Czech Republic when RMA'd.
Could ask but why should you if it's faulty, you as the buyer are protected way more than the seller, I've learned this the hard way, even though I wasn't at fault

Ok well i requested a return with UK oneplus so will say what they say tomoz.
I mean what will be quicker though? I will have to return it before seeing my money back, then i have to buy another which will take close to a week to arrive, prob not a lot in it i guess? but i suppose i could make the saving as well? :/

So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?

r3k0 said:
So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?
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Afaik theres a 6 month fair usage policy globally for goods bought.. Not sure if they have to adhere to this but I'd have thought so.
You don't expect things to go wrong that soon. So you should have a case.
Tbh though they may just fix the device lol (OnePlus I mean)

There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.

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So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!
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Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...

feld719 said:
Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...
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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated

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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated
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Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?

feld719 said:
Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?

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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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Yep mine does it.
Was reading about it here some of the samsung forums https://www.bing.com/search?q=phone...8eda50e86fc85f51&pglt=547&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
Honestly I can't remember if mine always did it or not.

Dang, seems fairly common across diff phones then... :/
I have dropped mine a few times while in a decent case so no signs at all from drop damage but maybe this is what dislodged it? They are prob originally held in place with double-sided sticky tape like a lot of components in phones... Whack!!

Philip said:
There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.
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If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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They all do if mate. It's normal

dladz said:
If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.

Philip said:
You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.
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Ah @ 3
that changes things.
fair enough, tbh i've had my fair share of crap as a seller with paypal, they're not the best customer service i've ever had lets put it that way.
Anyway, i think he'll get it sorted via RMA in the uk tbh, i think it'll work.
Or it'll be too late by the time they've fixed it.

Ok, so is dropping it from say 1 to 2 foot is not part general use? Obviously I'm not going to declare this so really it shouldn't be an issue.
I agree that Paypal don't really have a part of this, but if they offer reimbursement/guarantee on this sort of thing then yes i will take them up on that but I'm not going to push it.
Just waiting to hear back from Oneplus...