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HTC still hasn't returned my money.

So does this sound at all right. I did a swap with my nexus one, because of dust under the screen. this was back on January 13th. they sent me a new phone a took 530 dollars out of my account, after about 10 days they called me and said they received the other phone in good condition and that they would be putting the money back. after about 2 weeks still no money. On February 4th, I got:
Dear Antonio Grippi,
We received your package. We will be reviewing the condition of the items received and will contact you if we have any further questions. You can check the status by visiting our service site.
HTC ticket #: ************673
S/N: *************
Sincerely,
HTC
Please feel free to visit our help site for further assistance.
Still no money as of today. I called HTC AGAIN, and they said they were escalating my claim to see what was going on. Does this sound at all good. what the hell can I do if they can't find my money. I could have a second one of these for my wife, or something for 530 bucks. Anyone else taking a really long time to get their money?
P.S. the status says this:
Ticket Info
Status: We have completed your case. If you can help us improve our service, or would like to comment, please contact HTC customer service representatives.
Service Type: Repair
Service Model: C4-On site exchange
Failure Description: Dust under screen. Looking to repair.
That doesn't sound promising either, for some reason.

People seem to forget that merchants have a considerable amount of time to batch their transactions, there are time limits though. The general timeframe any business will tell you would be "up to 30 days, you will see your refund on your next statement" so calm down.
If you're going to bust a vein over it, call your bank card issuer, and initiate a "chargeback" for your situation, which then with that amount will take investigation, with a possible initial credit given until investigation is complete.
Breath. Relax. There are things that can be done.

I understand there is a process. My only concern is that they told me, when they called me, I would see the money in about 2 weeks. that was about 3 weeks ago. I think it's fair to ask where my money is if it isn't returned when they say it should be. I was just asking if anyone else had a similar situation, and if it sounded normal. I'm not busting a vein. just checking with people who might be in the same boat to get a time frame. maybe to help people who are thinking of doing an exchange themselves, so that they can better know, if they can afford to be out 530 dollars for that amount of time.

I had the same problem, the 14 days had passed and I made various calls to HTC. then I emailed Google about it and they said they would be checking why this was and within a day lot two of mailing Google, I received the money back and got a email confirmation from Google as well.... other than that the reps at HTC all said, we are sorry and don't know why its taking so long, your claim has been escalated. blah blah blah blah.

Stay on them until it's escalated to someone who can answer your request & refund your money!

I called htc to return my phone. They failed 3 times in a row at sending me a shipping label. They also say it is escalated and are waiving the restocking fee. It is scary how long they are taking, it has been over 2 weeks since i spoke to them last.

NEVER utilize Motorola support for repairs- A horror story

TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Full story:
I'm a huge fan of Motorola phones. My first cell phone after High School was an old school Razr, and outside of a brief dalliance with a BlackBerry Storm (my first smartphone), every other phone I've had was made by Motorola. I got a Droid X soon after release in 2010, loved it, and replaced it 2.5 years later when it was showing it's age by getting a Razr Maxx HD on release day. Totally happy with the Razr Maxx HD... until it accidentally fell out of my pocket onto a rock in a parking lot and cracked the screen. Phone was totally functional still, including all portions of the touchscreen, but it had spiderweb cracks on it so I figured I'd get it fixed.
I was excited to see Motorola offers repair services for things not covered by the warranty. motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91148/p/30%2C6720%2C8579/kw/ said it would only be $100 and they can do the lens replacement in (at MOST) 5 business days. It's such a routine repair that they had a separate price set up explicitly for it. So on Friday 04/19, I open a case, give them my credit card details, get an RMA number, and ship it via USPS the same day. I pay a few dollars extra to guarantee it gets there by Monday (4/21) morning (and to get tracking), figuring it should be repaired by that Friday (04/26) and I'd have it soon after that. Meanwhile, I reactive the almost 3 year old Droid X.
Then the problems start.
Monday, 04/22, USPS tracking confirms that the phone is received at 9:50am. I get an email from Motorola reminding me to send it in at 2:50pm, 5 hrs later. I figured it hadn't been processed yet. Tuesday (04/23) afternoon, I manage to check the status of my repair (with difficulty) at their website, and it shows it hasn't been received yet. Their website ( globalrepairtools.motorola.com/serviceandrepair/device/index/en-us/trackrepair/ ) has a LOT of problems, working extremely inconsistently, hanging in multiple browsers and sometimes even putting me through and showing me the status of a repair COMPLETELY unrelated to mine (even though I made sure to copy/paste my own RMA number). Wednesday (04/24), it still showed that my phone hadn't been received, so I called Motorola support (for the first time). After checked the tracking details, the representative confirmed it had been received, but had not yet been logged into the system, and said that the original 5 business day timeline was still likely going to happen. Friday (04/26), still no progress.
Monday 04/29, I call back, they note that according to their system the phone was received on 04/27, five days after it had been delivered, and that the 5 business day cycle actually only starts after it's logged into their system. I was assured that because they had records of talking to me on 04/23 and the phone had already been received then, they'd expedite the repair and I'd hear from them soon after with a tracking number for the shipment. Fast forward a couple of days with the same story (promise of an expedited shipment), on 05/03 I call back again and get told that, Lo and Behold, they were having some further "technical difficulties" at their repair facility but the phone should 100% be done by 05/08 (13 business days and 17 calendars days after it was initially received by Motorola), and I'd get expedited shipping from there. They said they'd send me a bluetooth headset for my trouble (something I don't particularly need). I emailed in a complaint to Motorola at this point, and whoever responded to the email simply said "I could see here that you already spoke with one of our agents from our Repair Team. They assured you that you will get your phone by May 08. We'll just have to take their word for it. I'm sure that they will expedite the repair from here. Our system is doing some updates that is why this happened."
Fine. 05/08 rolls around and I still haven't gotten any details... So I call back, pretty early that morning. They tell me (AGAIN!) that they had some problems at the repair facility and now have no ETA whatsoever when my phone might be done (they don't have any idea what's going on with it. My personal theory is they lost it), but they can send me a replacement Razr Maxx HD. I was OK with that option, but the rep says it will take 3-5 business days until I have the device, though he said it was more likely to be 3 than 5. That puts us at 05/15, right around when I had my family coming in for some big personal events, and I didn't want to be dealing with this then (and I wanted a phone with a functioning camera, while the one on my Droid X was broken).
05/10, I get an email that the order for my replacement Maxx HD was being processed. There was no tracking information in that email, though it did say there would be tracking information forthcoming. Now, for the bluetooth headset they mailed me the previous week, I got the email with the tracking # two days after the headset arrived, so I figured this would be a similar story so I should call in for a tracking # (so I could be home to meet the device when it arrived). Monday 05/13, call and there's no details. Still haven't received any email by Tuesday morning, 05/14 (4-5 business days after my conversation early on 05/08, depending on how you count it), so I call again to see if I could get a tracking number, and actually get a representative who says the phone is in a box at the warehouse ready to be picked up by FedEx. They say a tracking number would only be generated once it was picked up (which sounded strange to me). I call again near the end of business on Tuesday and get much the same story, where a second representative gives me the same story about it being in a box.
05/15 (5-6 business days after the replacement was ordered, 18 business days after Motorola received my original phone for repairs). The representative I get this time says there was some kind of mistake the previous day because of technical difficulties at the distribution warehouse and my order was in a status called "booking", but should be shipped within the next few days. I will admit I got angry at this point, but the agent assured me he had contacted the warehouse and it would only be a day or two till they got through the back orders. Note that at this point, they set some kind of flag so every time I call I start out at level 2 support. Which would be fine, except level 2 support has a minimum of a 35 minute hold time throughout the day, so I'd already practically memorized the entirety of Motorola's hold messages. The representative promises to call me back that day no matter what he hears from the warehouse people to give me an update. No call was ever received.
05/16 (25 calendar days after Motorola received my phone): I call again, get told that the phone was through "booking", was actually "picked", and was in a box and ready to be shipped that day. I call in between spending time with my family (who I see rarely) and different events I have to go to. I ask whether they actually talked to someone at the warehouse and got a confirmation that it would be shipped. That representative says she doesn't have any contact information for the distributor against an email address (say what?) but she'd be happy to send them (yet another!) email. She offers to escalate me to their "executive support", but it's already 4pm so they've gone home. I get a promise I'll get called back the next day.
05/17 AM: I call again, get told that it was still "picked", but would DEFINITELY ship that day. I ask if anyone has heard from the warehouse, the answer is no. I inquire as to possible Saturday delivery because it's getting dangerously close to when I'm actually leaving the state/country on a trip that I will need a phone for (because I've paid for a micro-SD card that I'll use abroad and it's my only planned way to keep in touch with my responsibilities back home), and get told by the representative it's probably not possible but I'll definitely get a call back later that day. I have some events planned that evening where I can't touch my phone, so he says he'll leave a VM or an email with details of any updates.
05/17 PM: I get a call from Motorola somewhere around 6pm and they leave a voice mail saying they saw I talked to someone that day already so they don't have anything to add. (say what?) Then I get an email from Motorola that has one word in the subject (HOTDELAY), and it basically says "please call us" and a different number than the one I'd been calling. So I call that number as soon as I'm able, get through to a supervisor for the repair team. Oh my, apparently the distributers warehouse was having further technical difficulties! Amazingly, that phone that I had been assured four (or was it five?) separate times would be shipping "that day" all week, wasn't actually in stock! They won't be able to ship me a phone until late June at the earliest. Needless to say, I flip out, saying that's completely unacceptable. So the supervisor says she'll call corporate and get back to me on Monday (05/20), since they'd already gone home and wouldn't be in on the weekend. She promises she'd call me by 1pm on Monday.
05/20 early PM: Wow. Supervisor actually manages to call me back around 1230pm and gives me the offer that Motorola will give me a Droid 2 as a loaner phone until they get the Razr Maxx HD back in stock. That's right. Not a Droid 4. Or a Droid 3. Or a Droid 2 Global. But the phone that is FOUR MODELS out of date and as old as my Droid X. Needless to say, I tell her that that is not an acceptable option, and the only thing that I'd accept at this point is for Motorola to reimburse me in full for the cost of a phone. She says she'd look into it.
05/20 later PM: I get a call back from the supervisor. Corporate has agreed to reimburse me for a phone. Hallelujah! I ask a few questions. It goes like this: "Will they reimburse me for the full value of the phone?" "Yes." "Will I be reimbursed all taxes and fees?" "Yes, of course, we will reimburse you all taxes". I should have gotten details of all this in writing, but I didn't think of it. I almost cry from joy to finally get this resolved. I go to Best Buy (because they don't have a charge to return phones and at this point, I'm skeptical until the check is sent) buy a phone for full price (because I obviously don't have an upgrade available for myself yet), fax them the receipt with my case number, name, and address written on it, and move on my merry way. I figure I'll call them later the next day to make sure the fax was received and the reimbursement is being processed. I was so excited because I was leaving for my multi state/country traveling on 05/22, and I was relieved to get this huge monkey off my back.
05/21 (the 1 month "anniversary" of Motorola receiving my phone): I get a phone call back from supervisor lady. She is incredulous that I somehow thought they'd reimburse me for a brand new full priced device. Apparently she meant they'd only reimburse me for the purchase price of the original device, so they want my receipt back from October and will only reimburse me for $250 (and for none of the VZW subsidy that I got by signing a new 2 year contract). I can only respond that I never agreed to such an absurd deal and that there is absolutely no way I'd accept 1/3 of the value of the phone that I sent in to be repaired as reimbursement. She says that's the maximum they'd consider reimbursing me, and that me buying a replacement phone myself was my own problem and that I should return it. I request to speak to her supervisor and eventually get forwarded to their corporate consumer advocacy office. Talk to someone from consumer advocacy who says they'd look in to see what they could do for me and we'd talk again later that afternoon.
05/21 PM: Individual from consumer advocacy calls me back. Says there is no way anyone would ever agree to reimburse me the full value of a replacement device, just the subsidized price I paid once. He acknowledges that the device is valued at much higher than that and that I only got that price through a subsidy I (for all intents and purposes) pay back through the contract I'm still liable for, but he says that is irrelevant for their purposes. I tried to escalate to an even higher level of support and get this resolved, but he refused, saying there is no one higher and that I had to take what he offered or leave it. When inquiring about another option (compared to getting reimbursed a fraction of the cost of the device), he changed the story regarding their stock of phones once again and says more will be in stock on 05/22. He also personally guaranteed that mine would be the first one out the door from that shipment. When I said I didn't believe him, he said that given my case history he wouldn't believe himself either, but I had no other choices. He said they'd ship it to where I would be on 05/22-05/23. After numerous complaints from me about the absolutely abhorrent service so far, he (begrudgingly) attempts to offer me another bluetooth headset. After my frank refusal of that, he finally offers to ship me a $100 google play card. All this time, he just patronizes me with "I understand your frustration", and no real apology on behalf of Motorola.
05/22: I get a call back from consumer advocacy. It turns out that no, in fact, there was no stock that came in that day. They offer to send me a Razr M until they can get more HD MAXXs sometime later the following month. I refused, and say (again) that the only option I'll accept at this point was reimbursement for a replacement device, because it's been a month and I'm leaving the country for a few weeks and don't want to deal with this. He says it's not possible. I ask who could make it possible and get told this is a policy of their finance department. He refuses to let me speak to the finance department, but puts me on hold and (lo and behold!) he says that he spoke with them and got approval to send me a check to reimburse me for the replacement. But because they're paying the full amount, I will not get a $100 google play card for my trouble or any other reimbursement. I should be thankful that they deign to pay me back for the device I sent them (and they lost somewhere). I make sure to get this offer sent to me in writing later that day.
05/30: They mail the check. Only took a week. I was amazed. I got it a few days later.
Lessons learned: NEVER utilize Motorola for any kind of repair services. A repair that I could have easily done in 30 seconds (if I could have reasonably gotten ahold of the part without having it shipped from Hong Kong over a period of 2+ weeks) was not only never completed, but ballooned into a whole saga.
I've considered filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, but I don't think they could do anything. I don't know what else I can do, so I'm also spreading the story to all the forums I know so people can be warned to not use their repair services. Would have done it earlier but I had the international travel and then a whole bunch of work to do when I got back.
Legal action for my time (I estimate I spent >20 hrs on hold/talking to Motorola) wouldn't be worth it, given that any attorney would charge more per hour than Motorola would ever offer me. To be honest, I'd have been satisfied if they had ever offered me a sincere apology, an honest update on the situation, or maybe even that (paltry) $100 that they had considered offering me but in the end took the offer back. I was over a month without a normally functioning smartphone.Instead, all I got was patronization, dishonesty that I'd get a phone back "soon", and a bluetooth headset.
If any of you are stuck down the motorola black hole, the biggest advice I can give is to call the consumer advocacy office. Insist you be transfered up there if you have to. They are also less than honest and less than useful, but they seemed to at least be able to contact the people that could do something. If they tell you something is not possible, don't trust them. Insist to find out who can make it possible, because it probably is. I'd post the number myself, but I don't know how much I'm allowed to.

Yup, this is exactly why I try to repair stuff myself instead of sending it in.
But thanks for sharing.

That's why I get the best buy warranty. 10 bucks a month but this is my 3rd phone. Each one has been free and taken no longer then a week.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX

That's why I take care of my electronics.

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Raryn said:
TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Really sorry to hear it. We (Motorola Support) are just recovering from a rough patch in repair, and looks like you had one of the worst experiences. It's not typical of our performance and we are working hard to get 100 percent back to our quoted turnaround time.
Again, sorry you had such a crummy experience.
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I was going to say I've read elsewhere of delayed repair times.
I am utterly shocked and devastated they were only willing to reimburse you for the subsidised amount! Who says you have an upgrade or access to one?!!
I am even scared to write about screen issues. My insurance company has a hard enough time keeping my model in stock and I can't afford to have $700+ temporarily out of commission.
Legal action... Maybe small claims court?
I would always remember never count on anyone for anything. You're bound to be let down and stressed. I can tell by the girth of your story you mean what you say.
It looks like Motorola read this. I'm shocked they didn't send you a free accessory or something to help compensate you.
I love this phone and its battery life and laugh every time my friends are tethered to an outlet. But all in all its just a cell phone and luckily you were even offered a loaner to begin with.
Fortunately this is not a story we hear every day and hopefully some xda members will chime in with their positive experiences.
Motorola please port webtop to this device!
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD

That is by far the worst experience I have heard of so far, and by all means if the customer has paid for the device and can prove so, should be entitled to a full refund or at least give the original phone back so the person can find other less stressful means of repair. That is simply unacceptable and Motorola should be held fully accountable if they are going to brand their name on anything. This story makes me upset even gees.
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Who said you were guaranteed to get it back in 5 days? Their website says 7-10 days after receiving it.
My experience with Moto service was OK. Not great. Just OK. I did get it back quick, 5 business days in fact. Their website and tracking are a pathetic joke for sure.
Like you, USPS indicated that my phone had been delivered but their system didnt show it. I contacted them and they gave me the same spill about the system having problems. I can accept that software systems can have problems sometimes so I wasn't to upset. I figured id give it a few days.
A few days passed and my phone still showed it hadn't been received. I called them and made sure (in a very respectful way) that i was very unhappy that they were having problems. They escalated my case and i talked to a new person. The new person gave me about the same explanation as the first person but assured me they would have it to me a max of 10 days from receiving it. Frustrated I accepted their excuse.
The next day it sowed as received in their system and that they were repairing it.
Two days later it showed as shipped. Funny thing was the "Shipped", emphasis on the "-ED", was for that day at like 1:00 pm. I got the notification that it had "shipped" like at 8:00 am. In addition to the fake ship date there was "NO TRACKING". I was thinking that those as shats marked it as shipped to appease me.
I was about ready to call them again but gave them a chance to make good. Then the next day it showed up all nice and shiny.
They did a good job repairing it. They replaced the whole frame, not just the glass. I know because there was a noticeable scuff on the top right corner that is no longer there.
This was actually for my sisters phone. She borrowed mine because here work requires here to have a phone. Anyway, she might not get it back. :cyclops: Ive quite enjoyed it the last few days.

That's horrible!
Good thing I saw this, I'll keep your experience in mind for if I ever need to get anything on my phone repaired. I can't believe you went through that much trouble. I quite am disappointed with Motorola at this moment.

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Moto G Order Saga

Hello All - I thought my experience ordering a Moto G LTE might save others some headaches. Here's the saga:
I ordered a Moto G LTE from Motorola's website on June 5th (they immediately charged my credit card). I received a confirmation email with a scheduled delivery date of June 10th. Come June 10th no phone, so I checked the order status. The Moto website stated the phone had not even shipped. I initiated an online chat via the website, explained the issue and the Moto rep stated that they were out of stock and it would be at least 4 or 5 working days before the phone would be shipped. Note that at this point in time the Moto website stated they were in stock. I told the Moto rep that I didn't want the phone (knowing that Amazon had them in stock) and told him to cancel the order. After 30 minutes of "I have to talk to a specialist" and "perhaps we can expedite the order" and other delaying tactics I still maintained that I wanted the order canceled. On hold for another 10 minutes, he came back on and said the order would be canceled and I would receive a confirming email within 24 hours. For reference I printed out the chat session. The next day when no email arrived I again checked status to find the order had been shipped. This would have been ok but I had already ordered one from Amazon, based on his assurance that the order had been canceled. Not needing two phones, and angry at being lied to by the Moto rep I refused delivery of the Moto phone. This morning I received confirmation from FedEx that the phone was returned to Motorola so I tried to initiate a return to get a refund. Can't do it - you need the IMEI number which I didn't have. So I called Moto. After reaching a Moto rep, giving her all my info, spelling my name several times, describing my problem, she said their system was down and I had to call back in two hours. Three hours later I called back, went through the same process and was told I would be placed on hold for two minutes while he looked into the situation. TWENTY MINUTES later he came back on, said he had to transfer me to a specialist. Another 10 minutes on hold and a cheerful Moto rep asked "how can I help you today". Went through the process AGAIN for the third time today and this time told him I would not be placed on hold, if I had to wait so did he. After 15 minutes of "let me look into this" he finally said he would process a refund within 10 days. We'll see - I plan on filing a dispute with my credit card company anyway just to be sure. So here's what I learned:
1. Don't believe anything a Motorola representative tells you.
2. Document everything. Ask them for an incident number. If you ship anything to them get a tracking number.
3. As much as you want to holler at the guy on the other end of the phone (or chat session) don't get angry with them. Motorola keeps these guys on a short leash and he is just following orders. Most likely he lives in a third world country somewhere (given the accent I suspect India) and knows there are hundreds of his countrymen who will take his place if he doesn't follow the rules. Besides it won't do any good - just be firm, polite and repeat any commitments he makes back to him for confirmation. Again, keep records of everything, including notes you take during phone calls.
4. Persevere - I do think they try delaying tactics to try to get you to give up. At one point in the chat session I was told that he needed to contact a specialist and it would take 20 minutes - did I want to hold? When I told him I refuse to wait 20 minutes he miraculously was connected within 30 seconds.
5. Try not to go crazy while on hold and listening to "Here at Motorola we're here to help. A representative will be with you shortly" for what seemed like a thousand times.
Am I recommending against the Moto G? Not at all. I bought the phone for my daughter and she loves it. What I am recommending is not buying from Motorola direct. Amazon has the same phone at the same price and if you are a Prime member two day shipping is free. Plus if you do need to return it Amazon is quick and easy. Tech support may be another issue, but I have no first hand experience so others on this forum would be in a better position to comment. Having dealt with AT&T tech support I doubt that Motorola could be any worse.
So that's my experience. Eventually I'll get a refund from Motorola, all that remains to be seen is how much effort I need to expend to get it.
Hope this helps.

Sir, Friend..I have ordered a many devices from the Moto direct site..seems as thow patients with the order would have been the thing, and avoided all the hassle gone thru, because Amazon was out of the devices about the same time, I have monitored both sites, and availability..one or the other would have gotten you the device just as soon..one must keep in mind of the demand, and patients will always come out ahead, whether or not a couple more days before you received the device, and I'm sure your daughter could have waited a couple, three more days..the crazy world has lost the thing called "patients" which is a trait we must hone continually.. and avoid stress while doing so..and there was a weekend between June 5th and June 10th..and not all people work 24/7..Seems as thow all this may / could have been avoided..just me thow..
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Sir, Friend..I have ordered a many devices from the Moto direct site..seems as thow patients with the order would have been the thing, and avoided all the hassle gone thru, because Amazon was out of the devices about the same time, I have monitored both sites, and availability..one or the other would have gotten you the device just as soon..one must keep in mind of the demand, and patients will always come out ahead, whether or not a couple more days before you received the device, and I'm sure your daughter could have waited a couple, three more days..the crazy world has lost the thing called "patients" which is a trait we must hone continually.. and avoid stress while doing so..and there was a weekend between June 5th and June 10th..and not all people work 24/7..Seems as thow all this may / could have been avoided..just me thow..
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+1. People want everything immediately these days. Crazy world.

Have you even thought that if you didn't rush to order one from Amazon, while you didn't have a confirmed refund and what followed is only and only your fault?
"Don't make a deal with a money from a deal you didn't finish yet"

I just checked my order and I ordered from Motorola on the same day as you. I actually received mine on the 10th. When you are ordering a brand new device, you have to expect delays and misinformation from CSRs. The best thing you could of done was had a little patience and you would of received yours from Motorola rather quickly and before Amazon. I don't really see what Motorola did to you that was so wrong.

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NWKENT said:
Sir, Friend..I have ordered a many devices from the Moto direct site..seems as thow patients with the order would have been the thing, and avoided all the hassle gone thru, because Amazon was out of the devices about the same time, I have monitored both sites, and availability..one or the other would have gotten you the device just as soon..one must keep in mind of the demand, and patients will always come out ahead, whether or not a couple more days before you received the device, and I'm sure your daughter could have waited a couple, three more days..the crazy world has lost the thing called "patients" which is a trait we must hone continually.. and avoid stress while doing so..and there was a weekend between June 5th and June 10th..and not all people work 24/7..Seems as thow all this may / could have been avoided..just me thow..
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My point was that 1) Motorola stated they would deliver the product on June 10th. 2) When they didn't, I initiated contact with them and first was told they were "out of stock, and when they stock up they will send the phone". They went from delivering it on June 10th to delivering it "when they stock up", so there was no specific date. It was only after requesting the cancellation they came back and said it would ship "in 4 or 5 working days". While I was on line with Motorola I checked the Amazon store, which said the phone was in stock. It was only after Motorola's assurance that the order was canceled did I place the order with Amazon on June 10th. I received the phone from Amazon on June 12th. The Motorola rep stated 1) they were out of stock, 2) it would ship in 4 or 5 working days and 3) the order was canceled - all of these statements were false. Patience has nothing to do with it - I don't like being lied to. But please feel free to disregard my experience and order direct from Motorola. My post was only intended to advise others of my experience and they can make whatever use of the information as they see fit.
Have a nice day.

liveroy said:
Have you even thought that if you didn't rush to order one from Amazon, while you didn't have a confirmed refund and what followed is only and only your fault?
"Don't make a deal with a money from a deal you didn't finish yet"
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So if I understand your post I should have waited for Motorola to refund my account? Even when they told me the order was canceled they stated it would be up to 10 working days before the refund was posted. So you advocate I should patiently sit and wait for two weeks for a refund, just to be sure they didn't lie to me, then order the phone from Amazon? Why would I do that for a measly $220? My daughter is enjoying her new phone (her old one was on its last legs) and I will eventually receive a refund from Motorola. The only question is when. Again, you may want to order from Motorola - go ahead. Doesn't bother me a bit. Personally I don't like dealing with someone that blatantly lies, and the Motorola rep made three statements that simply weren't true.

You should have just waited for "4 or 5 working days", IMO.

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So if I understand your post I should have waited for Motorola to refund my account? Even when they told me the order was canceled they stated it would be up to 10 working days before the refund was posted. So you advocate I should patiently sit and wait for two weeks for a refund, just to be sure they didn't lie to me, then order the phone from Amazon? Why would I do that for a measly $220? My daughter is enjoying her new phone (her old one was on its last legs) and I will eventually receive a refund from Motorola. The only question is when. Again, you may want to order from Motorola - go ahead. Doesn't bother me a bit. Personally I don't like dealing with someone that blatantly lies, and the Motorola rep made three statements that simply weren't true.
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I didn't mean you should wait the whole period until the refund pops-up on your account.But you should have let some reasonable time to pass at least (3 days or so).Other than that, its your problem what you do with your money after all, even if you end up with 2 phones or w/e.

Perhaps everyone here is right. Had I known that Motorola's customer service group was this screwed up I would have waited the 4 or 5 working days, which would have actually been at least a week (assuming that wasn't another lie). Of course, if I had known they were this screwed up I wouldn't have ordered from them in the first place - which was the point of my original post.
I'm just letting people know of my experience, they can order from whomever they choose.

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Had I known that Motorola's customer service group was this screwed up
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Actually, my experience has been quite the opposite from Motorola. Even so, I don't see what they did that was so wrong. You were ordering new hardware that hasn't been released yet. For them not to be able to give you an exact shipping time is not uncommon (even Amazon has issues with this). It seems the main problem is you just didn't have patience.

Fantastic customer service from Motorola

I dropped my 2013 Moto x and shattered the screen. I use the advanced repair option on the Motorola web site to try and have it repaired for $100. That's where they put a hold on your credit card and ship a "Like new" phone to you then you ship the broken one back to them when the new one arrives. If you don't ship the old one back they bill you for the new one.
I waited over two weeks to get the replacement from Motorola with an email from them that it was shipped 13 days ago. Today after they had me on hold for 45 minutes they came back and apologized to me that it wasn't really shipped and offered me a free upgrade to the 2014 model. I just got done designing my 16 gb pure edition with a bamboo back and it didn't cost me a dime. Not even charge for tax or delivery. Expected delivery January 13th.
Can't beat that for service!

Not too shabby. You're gonna love it, it's an improvement over the 2013 model in every way but the size. I still think the 2013 was the perfect size and wish they didn't make the 2014 as large as they did.

I have only had good experience with moto. The only thing that I dislike about them their billing is screwed up.
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The support in the UK is shocking. I reported a problem with the wooden back coming off a few days after I got the phone and it's taken several weeks to get anywhere with the support. Cases either get closed as solved or ignored by Motorola. I finally called up and spoke to someone but they won't do an advanced shipment of a replacement so I either have to send it for repair or send it back. As I used the cyber Monday discount if I send it back I'll have to order a new one at full price.

I have had some decent interaction with their customer support and they have been very helpful. My only issue is that for whatever reason they will not let me pay $50 extra to make my replacement phone the 64GB version. I started the process for the 14 day return/exchange within the required period, got my code and then noticed they had the 64 available now so I tried to get that. They just refuse to do it and say it is not possible, which I find very strange. I have spoken to a few different people, all very nice, one said he thinks he can get me the code and I can pay the upgrade fee and the other said it is absolutely not possible.
Other than that they have given me some codes for buying accessories and have been helpful.

Is the 14 day exchange policy a US only thing? Or do you have to return the phone prior to receiving the replacement?

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Is the 14 day exchange policy a US only thing? Or do you have to return the phone prior to receiving the replacement?
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I am in the US, but I am not sure if it is only an US thing or not. You can exchange your phone one of two ways; advanced replacement sends you a new device but you put down a deposit, when you get the replacement device you have ten days to send in your old phone. The other way is you send in your old phone first and then get the replacement.

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I am in the US, but I am not sure if it is only an US thing or not. You can exchange your phone one of two ways; advanced replacement sends you a new device but you put down a deposit, when you get the replacement device you have ten days to send in your old phone. The other way is you send in your old phone first and then get the replacement.
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Here is what they said:
Motorola Support Monkey said:
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We inform you that the advance repair procedure is not implemented in Europe, only in the US, and it's likely that he has heard about this procedure from American customers, as the XDA developers forum is American. Unfortunately, we cannot control the information provide in third party sites not managed by Motorola.
Motorola procedures in the US are not the same as in Europe, and due to this, in this case we can only offer you a replacement or credit, both following the same procedure: send the phone back to us using the DHL labels that we will provide, and when the phone is arrived to our service centre, this will trigger automatically a refund, or a new xCode for replacement, depending on what is the option that customer prefers.
As you contacted us during the 14 days period in case xxxxx-xxxxxx, the return for credit is possible, but you will need to return the phone to us first and the the system will trigger the resolution.
In case your choose the refund of the credit, in the meantime of course you can place another order.
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So I guess I'll get a replacement, the first phone I sent back arrived back to them in Germany the next day so hopefully I should get the code to place the order again fairly quickly.

I dropped my Moto X 2014 just three weeks after it arrived and the display was cracked. Motorola really sent me a new one after they received the broken one - I had to pay nothing.
Best costumer support I ever experienced. I don't think you can expect this anywhere else.
I'm from Germany, for your information

Google failed to deliver my Pixel XL and provided no help at all besides a refund.

Story Time:
I ordered the Google Pixel XL 128GB (Quite Black) from the official Google Store online on April 25, 2017. The free shipping option put the device being delivered in the May 11 - May 15th window. I was okay with this as I was taking an international flight on May 16th and figured I would have the device by then. Shortly after my order on April 27th, 2017 I received an email stating that my device has been shipped and expected to arrive between May 11 - 15. This email provided a FedEx tracking number, which I closely monitored every day.
I watched as my phone slowly made it's way from Carol Stream, IL to Los Angeles, CA. Each day inching it's way across the country. It finally reached the FedEx facility in Los Angeles on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:42AM. I was pretty excited to see that it was probably going to arrive much sooner than stated. That was until I saw a status update on the tracking that simply stated "Delivery Exception - Future Delivery Requested". What? I didn't understand what this meant so I called FedEx on May 4th, 2017 and the gentleman on the phone told me he would check with the LA facility and ask them about the package. After a brief 10 minutes hold, he came back and told me that delivery exception means the delivery hub was busy and the package would be out for delivery that day (May 4th) by the end of the day.
I was satisfied and went along with my day only to find out by the end of the day that a delivery attempt was not made. May 4th came and went. May 5th came and went. No updates on FedEx tracking, and no attempted deliveries (I was home waiting for the delivery). I decided to be patient and wait until Monday morning to see if there was some update on the FedEx tracking. There wasn't.
I called FedEx first thing Monday morning and asked for some new info on my package. After being placed on another brief 10 minutes hold, I was told again that the package would be out for delivery by end of day and the rep asked me for the cell phone number of the delivery address so the driver has it. I provided it and again went along with the day waiting for delivery.
That was until I later refreshed the FedEx tracking and find this gem: 5/08/2017 - Monday 10:34 am Returning package to shipper
LOS ANGELES, CA Shipper requested shipment to be returned - Unable to deliver shipment - Returning to shipper
Okay. So I called FedEx again and asked another rep what happened and he dug a littler deeper for me and found out that a woman by the name of Donna from Ingram Micro made a request for the package to be returned to the shipper on the morning of May 5th, 2017 (this status was not listed in the tracking website). I asked FedEx for any contact info for this Donna at Ingram Micro and he couldn't help me. I set out on my own to dig for the info I needed and ended up finding a phone number for Ingram Micro support. I called and naively asked for Donna and was met with confusion. I told the rep about my issues but she was less than willing to help me out because I was not from Google. So I asked her kindly if she had some contact info at Google since it is nearly impossible to find a proper phone number online for support (even after you spend almost $1,000 on a phone). She was able to supply me with a phone number and I thanked her and went with it.
I called the number and reached a very friendly rep at Google and explained my situation (that the phone was being returned to the shipper and I saw no chance of it being re-delivered on time). She was caring and expressed her apologies but told me she is with the Google Play Store support but that she could transfer me to the Google Hardware Store people. I waited on the line for about 15 minutes before being introduced to a first level support for the Google Hardware Store. Again I explained my situation and the rep was looking at the FedEx info and told me "Sir, if you look, you can see it should be delivered by May 9th, 2017." I explained calmly to him that that is the expected date for the device to return to the shipper, not me. He didn't quite understand what was happening and he offered to call FedEx and ask them what happened. I waited for about 20 minutes and he came back and told me that FedEx didn't have any more info for him than what was on the tracking log.
He told me I should be patient and that he was confident that the device would arrive on time to me. I knew better and kindly asked him to speak to a manager to explain this more. He hooked me up with his supervisor and I went on explaining it to him as well. He was able to finally understand that the device was being returned without even one attempt to deliver it to me. He said there was nothing he could do until the device reached it's destination. He said his system would not allow him to cancel the order/ship a new device, etc. until it was no longer "in transit". He told me he would make a case number for me and put it on high priority and after the expected date of the devices return to Ingram Micro (listed as May 9th) he can help me get it straight and even ship a new device with the fastest shipping possible. He told me they would call me on May 10th and check the case with me.
They did call me today and I again received the same first level support that didn't understand the situation in the first place. He AGAIN told me that the device says it will be delivered (now somehow updated to May 12th (back to the shipper of course)) on time. I told him again to please go over the tracking log with me and pay attention to the part that says that the shipper requested the package to be returned back to them. He told me he understood now and he would check with Ingram Micro/Google Shipping and find out what happened. He called me back about 2 hours later and said he confirmed that the device was heading back to the shipping company and he will transfer me to the Google Shipping department to have them help me out.
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I was connected with the shipping department and the rep there told me he confirmed that it was on the way back to the shipper and he could go ahead and start a refund for me. I informed him that I did not want a refund right now and I just want the device to be delivered by May 15th as promised and to please figure out a way to send me another one with express shipping since they already know the original one was on the way back. He tried telling me that it was undeliverable and that his "security system" would not allow him to place another device in shipping until this one was back. I actually only now started to lose my patience. I told him how unfair this was. He made the mistake of informing me that if the device was lost in transit or even stolen, then he could then authorize another one to be shipped out.
I explained to him that this really was not logical that they now know for sure they are getting the device back and still won't ship another one. I ended up getting absolutely nowhere with this guy and he offered me the great deal of initiating a refund for me. He offered it like it was some kind of compensation. To be refunded for a device that I paid for and did not get... this was too good for me to pass up, so I took him up on his offer and agreed to the refund and expressed my deep feelings of frustration to him. At this point, I am not sure I will ever order another Google device from the Google store. I love Google. I always have. This was an incredibly disappointing experience and I have no idea what phone I am going to buy now since I had my heart completely set on this device.
TLDR; I ordered a $1,000 Pixel XL. The shipping company made some error and had it sent back to them before even attempting to deliver to me. Google support was hard to reach and offered no help except for a refund. Thanks Google.

To be honest seems to me you're just *****ing the ***** yes you didn't get your device but you got your money back so you weren't ****ed. To be honest I don't understand the point of this post besides the ***** moan and complain

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To be honest I don't understand the point of this post besides the ***** moan and complain
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What's wrong with that?
Have a little empathy, sheesh.
Sorry to hear about the suck experience you had getting with NOT getting your phone.

kitila said:
To be honest seems to me you're just *****ing the ***** yes you didn't get your device but you got your money back so you weren't ****ed. To be honest I don't understand the point of this post besides the ***** moan and complain
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If that is all you got out of that story, then you are just as bad as Google was during this whole ordeal.

Man I am really sorry that this happened to you!

That sucks. Mine was way over a month so I cancelled it and ordered from project fi. Got to my house in 3 days. And it comes from the exact same place.

Great read. It must have taken you a lot of time so thank you for the effort. I think you need to find a supervisor that will credit you for at least $100. Then buy another one and have them ship free expedited. Good luck. The device is worth it.
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Post best left for reddit.
Package probably didnt have a phone in it.

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Post best left for reddit.
Package probably didnt have a phone in it.
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What kind of stupid responses are these?

Sad for you.
Had the nearly the same with my daydream. As soon as I saw sent back to deliverer I called Google. And they just asked if I want a refund or another device. But in my case they sent it out on the same day. Maybe because of the lower price.

Well at least you got your money back in a timely manner. Human error happens, I wouldn't hold it against Google. Just make sure you go ahead and get the Pixel XL because it's an amazing phone! Now, deep breath... LOL

So just take refund and order again, seems like the easiest option...