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Noob: best ROM battery related

Hi, I'm a noob here in the Note. I've been a heavy user and a quite massive flasher of my SGS2.
I'm expecting my Note tomorrow and I'm very frightened in advance by its battery life. So I'm thinking of rooting instantaneously as I open its box but I need your advice.
Should I just root it with the CFroot and leave the stock Samsung touchwiz or should I flash any ROM with good battery results? If so, please I need a small amount of opinions. Which one is the most reliable? Do the latest ICS betas have the same battery drain as the latest GBs? Should I go ICS to start enjoying the Note experience or stay in a GB rom?
Please help me to grasp the state of things in the Note world as I open the box.

Right now I'm using a custom ROM, Darky ROM to be exact and I'm really pleased. This one seems to work best overall for me (along with the latest franco kernel).
Most people however have reported great performance with using the latest Abyss kernel and Rocket ROM. Those for me, weirdly were slower and Abyss got me battery drain.
However, my experience differs from that of most users out there, so basically you should probably try them yourself at first and see which one suits you better.

eug3n91 said:
Right now I'm using a custom ROM, Darky ROM to be exact and I'm really pleased. This one seems to work best overall for me (along with the latest franco kernel).
Most people however have reported great performance with using the latest Abyss kernel and Rocket ROM. Those for me, weirdly were slower and Abyss got me battery drain.
However, my experience differs from that of most users out there, so basically you should probably try them yourself at first and see which one suits you better.
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Thank you pal for the first clues!

Checkrom got me the best battery life so far, mainly it is a lite rom.
Hope its not placebo!
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At the moment I'm using Rocket Rom together with the Speed Kernel which, with a few tweaks here and there, gives me awesome battery life while using and in standby.

Lite Roms have most of the Samsung and some other stuff removed. As a rule, they are more battery efficient. The best ones IMO are Cassie's XtraLite and Chrak's Small Rom. Of course, removed apps that you need can be added back in both of these Roms.
I used both with Franco's kernels, and they were fast, smooth and easy on the battery.
As for ICS, my advice would be to stay out of it for the time being. You have things to learn before being able to cope with the necessary high maintenance and fixing the ICS Roms require ATM.
No disrespect meant, just stating the fact.

aguadilu said:
Hi, I'm a noob here in the Note. I've been a heavy user and a quite massive flasher of my SGS2.
................. things in the Note world as I open the box.
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I had the same issues with Battery life of SGN. Then I rooted with Franco Kernel 2.6.35.7 & have almost increased my Battery life by 30%
So try it & if you find bettter ROM, pl do share
Thanks & All the best

[Q] (Q) Reccomend rom and kernel combo?

Hi you guys, I just got my nexus 4 a week ago and rooted it right away.
I have been looking through the list of roms and I honestly don't know which is right for me.
I'm looking for a STABLE rom that knows how to balance battery life and power.
I don't care too much for customization, just a little would be nice (Nothing too overbearing).
It would be if the rom just knew what it was doing, and doesn't need me to constantly tweak things.
SO in all, just the BEST reccomnded rom and kernal combo.
Thank you in advance.
EDIT: I am currently running the stock rom, and franco r53 kernel

Slimbean. Stable, no bugs. As for kernels, they all are good. I like trinity and matrix

You will get a lot of different feedback what is the best. In the end it's a matter of taste.
atm I like AOKP with faux123 kernel. I heard the Minco Rom which comes with franco kernel should be very stable and smooth. And this rom and kernel where developed and supposed to work together:
"Welcome to the cross collaboration between myself & Francisco Franco.
We're proud to announce the first and ONLY Franco supported ROM. This ROM has been built from AOSP Jelly Bean."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061573
I don't know if you already know this "index"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975842
try some of the AOSP ROMs and see what's best for you. Since there is no best combo for everyone.

Try EVERYTHING! Every phone is different as is every person.
I could just go on about how I now swear to Trinity and AOKP, but you'll never really know the answer to your own question unless you experiment. The experimenting is the best part :3
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I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!

Notorious544d said:
I use ParanoidAndroid with Harsh's kernel.
Of course this is subjective, but having tried all kernels (except Matrix and Trinity) Harsh's one is the fastest and smoothest one with good battery life. I think other kernels have better battery life as they disable mpdecision, but this comes at the loss of smoothness which I personally prioritise.
As for the ROM, I haven't tried any since I flashed PA first. I don't think I'm ever going to even consider switching ROM's - that's how awesome it is :good:
But as everybody else is saying, you have to try everything yourself, not like that's a burden since everybody on XDA loves flashing stuff. It's fun!
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Want battery but worried about smooth? Install pimy my ROM and use a fee tweaks here and there ....
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MINCO, really lite

Sorry i didn't make this clear earlier. But i care MUCH more about battery life than performance. I use my phone constantly, wether that means texting or reddit or games. I'm sure the nexus' hardware can more than keep up with these tasks but I'm getting relatively poor battery life.

I'm a gamer I use rasbeenjelly rom and motley b31 experimental. I get better battery life and performance than stock rom.
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I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?

newtoandroid30 said:
I would try all the roms in the world. But i don't know a quick and effecitive way to back up all my apps. I used titanium backup ut many apps just weren't compatitible with the new custom rom. Tips?
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Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Factory stock rom and franco kernel.
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Slimbean (stable, no bugs) and Harsh kernel (smoothest kernel I've tried so far and good battery life)

reaper000 said:
Really? I've flashed dozens of ROMs between my Galaxy Nexus and N4, and have always used TiBu Pro without fail to quickly restore my apps. (then again, all my apps are from the Play store).
My favorite rom lately has been codefireXsr5
with Motley b31 kernel. Alternatively, Liquidsmooth 3.2 with Trinity 91g
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Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?

galaxys said:
Have u tried SR7.2 with motley?
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That's what I'm running right now! :good:
The reason I recc'd SR5 was because I found it faster than SR6. Heck, with Matr1x 5.5ocgpu487 (which itself is marginally faster than Matr1x6), I was scoring just over 20000 on AnTuTu with SR5.
I just benched SR7.2 with Motley b31oc1678, gave a pretty nice AnTuTu score of 20900, which is the same as what SR5 gave. So I'd give a thumbs up to this combo -- it also feels as good as SR5! (Running Trinity 91L at 1728 oc'd would undoubtedly bump that above 21000, but I couldn't tell the difference between running Trinity at 1728 and Motley at 1678 in daily use)
Do have to say that Rasbean Jelly and Trinity 91L was blinding fast, very noticeable in regular use; totally supports the >23000 AnTuTu score. (But I can't tell that big a difference between that combo and Liquidsmooth 3.2, which is unsupported by its 19000 benchmark. Yet another reason why I feel benchmarks are somewhat worthless when compared between entirely different ROMs)
It's all really subjective; objective tests like benchmarks are so confounded that only data mongers like me bother to use them :silly:

With Motleys I get 16000 at 1024
19500 at 1242 but then the increase is negligible. 22500 at 1642 for me.
I have been runing at 1024 and every game is perfect. Undervolted to 650 at 1024
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[Q] Which rom is currently the best for nexus 4?

I have switched from HTC One X because I hate its quiet speaker sound and GPS jumping around. So far i am really happy with nexus 4. Currently I have it stock rooted. But Im just wondering if I should flash a Custom Rom because I am currently really happy with stock root. But is there battery improvements .etc. with other roms.
I have my eyes on Cyanmogen and paranoidandroind but I think they both are buggy?

Reload147 said:
I have switched from HTC One X because I hate its quiet speaker sound and GPS jumping around. So far i am really happy with nexus 4. Currently I have it stock rooted. But Im just wondering if I should flash a Custom Rom because I am currently really happy with stock root. But is there battery improvements .etc. with other roms.
I have my eyes on Cyanmogen and paranoidandroind but I think they both are buggy?
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There is nothing like the best ROM.
For one person best is stock, for another, best is heavily modified.
Personally i use AOKP (milestone1), and for me it's virtually bug free, with healthy dose of improvements over stock, which I got used to on my old One X
basically this is nexus, so pretty much all ROMs are stable
they're built from exactly same source as stock. it's not HTC where published source code won't even compile properly without intense troubleshooting and fixing.

Both roms have been around for a quite along time so bugs are at a minimum level or none at all. Every rom will have a few bugs here and there that's why there are releases to fix them. Both CM 10.1 and PA are pretty stable and prefect for daily use.
If you're happy on stock then there's no need to flash a custom rom. There's no such thing as "the best rom".
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Reload147 said:
I have switched from HTC One X because I hate its quiet speaker sound and GPS jumping around. So far i am really happy with nexus 4. Currently I have it stock rooted. But Im just wondering if I should flash a Custom Rom because I am currently really happy with stock root. But is there battery improvements .etc. with other roms.
I have my eyes on Cyanmogen and paranoidandroind but I think they both are buggy?
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another of this best topics...There's not a thing like "best" rom, what you can find however, it's a rom that fits your needs better than others. If you think the roms you're looking at are buggy, then don't use them, custom roms are always a work on progress unless it's a final version, so deal with it.
Both roms have a complete changelog and you can find what's working and what's not. they bring different things to the table, for me Cyanogen+franco kernel do the trick.

Interesting answers I guess i'll stay stock for a bit longer. I was tempted with custom because battery currently is alright. But just wondered if there was a custom rom with like battery improvements.

Reload147 said:
Interesting answers I guess i'll stay stock for a bit longer. I was tempted with custom because battery currently is alright. But just wondered if there was a custom rom with like battery improvements.
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Roms don't contribute much in battery life. Kernels do. Go for a custom kernel.
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scream4cheese said:
Roms don't contribute much in battery life. Kernels do. Good for a custom kernel.
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Oh, i didn't know that. I'll look into kernels to flash thanks

Reload147 said:
Oh, i didn't know that. I'll look into kernels to flash thanks
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a lot (or at least some) of people report, that battery life is much better after re-flashing stock rom. apparently something to do with factory flashing method. after reflash they gained extra few hours between charges.
personally can't say much as i didn't ever boot my nexus on stock, oem unlock was the first thing, and straight after flashing custom.
about kernels - try franco. He's got years of experience with custom kernels for different devices. Plus a lot of new settings to play around (when using with his paid app, but IMO it's worth it) - voltage, frequency, display contrast, gamma etc... tons of useful tweaks.

Kernels alone are worth it for the screen color adjustability. Try a bunch of roms before settling on one, most are plenty stable.

Depends on whether your looking for customization, or performance. Not saying it's the best ROM/Kernel combination, but I use RasSaber with franco.Kernel currently for performance :good:

After trying some different ROM's I settled on SentinelROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2233740
It has ROM+kernel tweaks and gives good battery life and performance right out of the box. Plus it's based on CM 10.1 source, but optimized for the Nexus. So for me it was the best of both worlds, and I'm very happy with it. It's very stable fast and gives you 48 hours of battery with moderate use.

I have to say... I was skeptical about rooting my Nexus 4 because I didn't want it to mess up in any way but then I saw ParanoidAndroid3+ and immediately rooted my Nexus. I've been playing around with it and it is awesome. I haven't bumped into any bugs or problems yet. I'm very pleased! :thumbup:
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Hi guys we have loads of Roms for our nexus 4 and i am fairly new to this device and dont know whats best to go for.
My question is..I am wanting a rom that's close to stock but modded for better battery and i dont need it all flashy if that makes sense..
I have had a good look through the threads choose and running purity at the moment and its a nice rom but battery is not great and i do not have a good mobile signal yet my signal is well strong on other devices in the same place.? (my house) three network UK
any pointers?
cheers
sas007

Try different kernels.
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theres no best rom, only the best rom thats good for you. try out a bunch, find what you and your device likes. also, if looking for battery life, try out a bunch of different kernels. eventually youll find the combination thats perfect for you.

sas007 said:
Hi guys we have loads of Roms for our nexus 4 and i am fairly new to this device and dont know whats best to go for.
My question is..I am wanting a rom that's close to stock but modded for better battery and i dont need it all flashy if that makes sense..
I have had a good look through the threads choose and running purity at the moment and its a nice rom but battery is not great and i do not have a good mobile signal yet my signal is well strong on other devices in the same place.? (my house) three network UK
any pointers?
cheers
sas007
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Sabermod by @sparksco is amazing. Close to stock with just the right amount of tweaks. No useless features or mods. I like minimal Roms, im not a big fan of sacrificing performance and stability for useless features. Its compiled with linaro toolchain so its very fast, and battery life is amazing as well ( i get 5.5 hours screen on time, and 2 days of moderate to heavy use. Just idling the phone will last 5 days). Comes bundled with a really good kernel as well. Give it a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158698

sas007 said:
Hi guys we have loads of Roms for our nexus 4 and i am fairly new to this device and dont know whats best to go for.
My question is..I am wanting a rom that's close to stock but modded for better battery and i dont need it all flashy if that makes sense..
I have had a good look through the threads choose and running purity at the moment and its a nice rom but battery is not great and i do not have a good mobile signal yet my signal is well strong on other devices in the same place.? (my house) three network UK
any pointers?
cheers
sas007
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For the biggest gain in batterylife you could try flashing a custom kernel and possibly underclock or undervolt it, this also decreases heating. The radio is responsible for mobile connections. You could try flashing a different radio to improve the signal from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227. Myself i`am running stock 4.2.2 rom and Franco kernel and am very happy with it. there are other kernels that are also very good. Best is to try them out yourself.

gee2012 said:
For the biggest gain in batterylife you could try flashing a custom kernel and possibly underclock or undervolt it, this also decreases heating. The radio is responsible for mobile connections. You could try flashing a different radio to improve the signal from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227. Myself i`am running stock 4.2.2 rom and Franco kernel and am very happy with it. there are other kernels that are also very good. Best is to try them out yourself.
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Not to go too far OT here, but how is franco battery wise? i was thinking of giving it a go.

ScumDroid said:
Not to go too far OT here, but how is franco battery wise? i was thinking of giving it a go.
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I think Franco is great for both performance and batterylife and off course color and sound control. But thats my preference, other users like other kernels better.

Each Rom will react differently on each device. The only way to find out what works best for you is to try them out on your own.

Attention Devs - KIND REQUEST - Pure AOSP Rom

To all the devs.
First off, would like to compliment you on the great work you do, and putting in all the tme and effort for developing your roms.
I would please like to request, if you are interested, to develop a PURE AOSP ROM, either kitkat or lollipop, like you get on stock Nexus.
I think a lot of people would be interested in experiencing the stock Nexus look and feel.
I am adding a poll, so for all those interested please vote.

i can't see the point at all .......
you have CM11 (the last nightly is good ) ......and then CM12 .
Cyanogenmod is already "simple" and enought "pure" with lots of interestings things , really not difficult to understand why this rom work...........and very ergonomic !!!
CM is not like others customs with all theirs "frills" like Pie ,omniswitch ,exotics personalizations ......more or less useless for a standard use .
=> with that , i really don't think at all that a dev want to "spend energy" to make a "poor" AOSP pure ... and too many peoples are really not interrested by this sort of rom

Loulou-13 said:
i can't see the point at all .......
you have CM11 (the last nightly is good ) ......and then CM12 .
Cyanogenmod is already "simple" and enought "pure" with lots of interestings things , really not difficult to understand why this rom work...........and very ergonomic !!!
CM is not like others customs with all theirs "frills" like Pie ,omniswitch ,exotics personalizations ......more or less useless for a standard use .
=> with that , i really don't think at all that a dev want to "spend energy" to make a "poor" AOSP pure ... and too many peoples are really not interrested by this sort of rom
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Dont know why but has just always interested me. And Im too uneducated and dont have the resources to build myself. Pure aosp has just look interesting to me.

I second this , i would love to see a pure AOSP rom.

jnvdh06 said:
To all the devs.
First off, would like to compliment you on the great work you do, and putting in all the tme and effort for developing your roms.
I would please like to request, if you are interested, to develop a PURE AOSP ROM, either kitkat or lollipop, like you get on stock Nexus.
I think a lot of people would be interested in experiencing the stock Nexus look and feel.
I am adding a poll, so for all those interested please vote.
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A pure AOSP is a pain in the ass ( u have to pick to many patch from caf), a CAF version will be easy or CAF based too like DU, SLIM

Miccia said:
A pure AOSP is a pain in the ass ( u have to pick to many patch from caf), a CAF version will be easy or CAF based too like DU, SLIM
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personally think it would be worth it though to truly use android at its purest (no bloat, slowdowns or crap). and people who do want some customisations on this rom the xposed framework is available to lollipop now.

To be honest I prefer TW to AOSP am I the only one?

You_KS said:
To be honest I prefer TW to AOSP am I the only one?
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NO. I love twiz too, as it gives me best gaming performance and battery life.

sasank360 said:
NO. I love twiz too, as it gives me best gaming performance and battery life.
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I thought TouchWiz is a "heavy" ROM compared to CM. How does it give performance for gaming?
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TiTAN-O-One said:
I thought TouchWiz is a "heavy" ROM compared to CM. How does it give performance for gaming?
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Well, that is the case atleast on my s4 mini. The thing is i do not always run my s4 mini @ full 1.7 ghz
While gaming on stock rom i set cpu @ 1.3 or 1.2 ghz and plays it just fine. I play subway surfers, dead trigger 2 and asphalt 8.
All run smoothly @ low graphix settings. But on custom roms like cm I have to set cpu @ 1.4-1.5 GHz for same fluidity and
obviously battery drains a little quicker.

sasank360 said:
Well, that is the case atleast on my s4 mini. The thing is i do not always run my s4 mini @ full 1.7 ghz
While gaming on stock rom i set cpu @ 1.3 or 1.2 ghz and plays it just fine. I play subway surfers, dead trigger 2 and asphalt 8.
All run smoothly @ low graphix settings. But on custom roms like cm I have to set cpu @ 1.4-1.5 GHz for same fluidity and
obviously battery drains a little quicker.
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Rly? I played Subway Surfers and Asphalt 8 (lowest graphix) @ 810mhz UV and its rly smooth as heck on RR Lollipop
On stock ROM I noticed battery drain and heating issues compared to cusroms
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