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We received a bunch of e-mails from credible sources living in Asia that Samsung is planning to launch the next version of its popular Samsung Galaxy S II that will surely challenge the upcoming iPhone 5.
According to the note, the phone could use the “Galaxy S II Plus” branding, because the specs of the phone is not far from the current version of the Galaxy S II. The Galaxy S II Plus might include 1.4 GHz dual-core processor, 1 GB RAM, and Android 2.3.4 with custom user interface courtesy of Samsung’s popular TouchWiz UI. Another source also added that the phone will arrive in August or September.
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Seems a little weird to me. To de-throne their flagship phone within mere months? Even if it doesn't carry the Galaxy name something just doesn't figure here. Other news sites have reported that it's an identical device simply with the processor boosted and that this boost may/may not come to the current S2. Interesting none the less.
Edit: My bad, I've clearly gone blind and missed the current thread
I think it might carry a NFC chip with it..
And those of us in the States are still empty-handed.
Here in the netherlands already for sale.
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Its cause they want to compete with the Iphone 5 ... simples
are we really going to notice much difference from 1.2 to 1.4? If all the specs stay the same and all they do is upgrade it to 1.4 I will be sticking with the SG2.
On the other hand I don't get why they would do that, is .2ghz really going to stop people from buying the SG2 over the Iphone 5?
All I can say is: This would piss me off. Having just forked out $750 just to have an SGII in the U.S., I'd be pissed if they suddenly had a slightly better model before the SGII was even available in the U.S.
The SGII is the fastest phone on the market right now and it does a lot of stuff the iPhone doesn't (DNLA, Kies Air, real multitasking, etc.). There's really no need to make it faster just to try and compete. Even if Apple brings it hardware-wise, it's still going to be the same old stale iOS that I have grown bored with. A little lipstick on the notification system and some twitter integration won't change that.
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Here in the netherlands already for sale.
Cheers
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no, the thing is, they call is samsung galaxy s plus (and not samsung galaxy s2 plus). the samsung galaxy s plus has no dual core. but it has 1.4ghz and android 2.3.3
dragonovus said:
no, the thing is, they call is samsung galaxy s plus (and not samsung galaxy s2 plus). the samsung galaxy s plus has no dual core. but it has 1.4ghz and android 2.3.3
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Galaxy S Plus will be released in Russia and it won't be better than S2, i think people are talking about other device in here
it is already here and I am planning to buy one
white color s2 plus
great prediction TS!!
jcagara08 said:
it is already here and I am planning to buy one
white color s2 plus
great prediction TS!!
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i'd stick to SGS2 instead, more people using, more customizable, more roms, more kernels. And the phone is almost the same, if not the same.
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i'd stick to SGS2 instead, more people using, more customizable, more roms, more kernels. And the phone is almost the same, if not the same.
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+1
On top of that the S2 Plus CPU and GPU are not as good as the normal S2's Exynos4210.
so old a topic
forget S2 plus.... The S2 is the best android phone in the world
the dual core, 1gb ram, 4.3" screen, it´s enough the all apps and stuff :good:
after my current S2, i will buy another one....
So is he implying that Samsung will start new line of mobiles not called Galaxy S with the new ‘so much anticipated’ device by Samsung? Find out and judge reading whole article.
http://samsung-updates.com/1553-gal...ions-and-networks-for-samsung-uk-and-ireland/
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IMHO that is what he is implying . new line of devices, maybe highest/exclusive/vip shelf - very expensive, superb design. strong metal casing like in wave not that plastic crap from galaxy s series, latest tech specs latest gorilla and so on. and ofc as leaks shows galaxy series will still be developed but as a mid class of mobiles with crappier plastic casing and not so high tech spec and design.
I think this guy has no clue but decided that selling more Notes is a good thing anyway.
Galaxy note is just S2 on steroids. It is not a successor.
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itspb said:
Galaxy note is just S2 on steroids. It is not a successor.
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At the rate samsung pops out phones... most of the devices are nothing but successors... so dont expect much... even if there is S3 there will be another S3+ after that... making the previous device obsolete within weeks to month..
shahbaz5588 said:
At the rate samsung pops out phones... most of the devices are nothing but successors... so dont expect much... even if there is S3 there will be another S3+ after that... making the previous device obsolete within weeks to month..
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They are not absolute successors. I think Samsung has a motto, a phone for every need. And that is what they have been doing. And quite surprisingly ask if their phones sell very well.
Definitely there will be a S3+, but not so soon. There has not been a solid S2+ it anything and it has been an year since the phone launched. And all these phones well not interfere with their flagship device as they will be priced much lesser with inferior features.
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keep also in mind that this guy is vp for uk and ireland... yet
i still stand my ground with opinion that the device that is so much anticipated will be launched before olympics and iphone and might be inderpendent and new line of products with some exclusive smooth and solid (ceramic metal) design and latest exynos 4core creating something like exclusive top shelf phones with all them low budget like galaxy ace 2, mid range like sgs 2,g note and the new device creating the bleeding edge expensive samsung phone
we will see
Hi guys and gals I'm currently want to upgrade my S2 (finally) to either a S3 or S4, reason why I'm still considering the S3 is that I haven't really heard anything bad about them. But for the S4 however..... things like, camera failing, sim card failure etc... But I'm an android developer so the main reason why im getting it in the first place is to have a big screen and a higher end processor since I've already got a S2 for a sort of low end kind of thing.
So if you dont mind giving me your thoughts on both products
and I do intend on getting extended warranty just because of the issues lol
I've never heard of camera or sim card failure
I went from the s2 to the s4 and don't regret it. Just make sure you know which version to get as there is quite a few
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I've never heard of camera or sim card failure
I went from the s2 to the s4 and don't regret it. Just make sure you know which version to get as there is quite a few
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Sim card thing is a bit rare I guess if you cut out a piece of paper and slide in with it, it will fix it lol if not then its the connectors inside. Camera problem is common it black screens when you open it and their is another thing but cant recall. What do you mean versions? Build versions? or model version? if its model is their model's I should avoid?
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Sim card thing is a bit rare I guess if you cut out a piece of paper and slide in with it, it will fix it lol if not then its the connectors inside. Camera problem is common it black screens when you open it and their is another thing but cant recall. What do you mean versions? Build versions? or model version? if its model is their model's I should avoid?
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there are mainly 3 models of s4.. 9505 ( quad core) 9500 ( exinos octacore) and the GE (google experiance) but i would consider more an s3... i had it and it's almoust the same... except for ram... you will not have any problem with knox eccc....
if you want an s4 buy the quad core lte version.... the 9505
of course is only my opinion
Actually the galaxy s3 will receive knox in future updates , if I were you I would stick with the s2 it was the best phone ever made by Samsung .
If you really want to upgrade, I think it’s better to wait a little bit longer , as the galaxy s5 should be released in January according to Samsung , also consider getting a nexus 5 , it’s priced around 350 and it should come with a faster processor .
Good luck
I went from the S3 to the S4 and found it to be noticeably smoother, has a much better battery, and the extra ram is also a big plus.
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Actually the galaxy s3 will receive knox in future updates , if I were you I would stick with the s2 it was the best phone ever made by Samsung .
If you really want to upgrade, I think it’s better to wait a little bit longer , as the galaxy s5 should be released in January according to Samsung , also consider getting a nexus 5 , it’s priced around 350 and it should come with a faster processor .
Good luck
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really?? s3 has the knox counter built in it??
i thought it was only in more recent models!!
it's a shame.. i sold the s2 and keept s3... grrrrrrr
difyel said:
Actually the galaxy s3 will receive knox in future updates , if I were you I would stick with the s2 it was the best phone ever made by Samsung .
If you really want to upgrade, I think it’s better to wait a little bit longer , as the galaxy s5 should be released in January according to Samsung , also consider getting a nexus 5 , it’s priced around 350 and it should come with a faster processor .
Good luck
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I am keeping the S2, that phone is so well built, when i was doing truck tyres I'd smack it around etc (not on purpose) and not a crack or signs of damage. I'm not too fussed about the S5 I'd never get anything on release as their will be likely problems with it... just look at GTA 5 lol...
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there are mainly 3 models of s4.. 9505 ( quad core) 9500 ( exinos octacore) and the GE (google experiance) but i would consider more an s3... i had it and it's almoust the same... except for ram... you will not have any problem with knox eccc....
if you want an s4 buy the quad core lte version.... the 9505
of course is only my opinion
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Yeah I was doing a bit of research on them today, played around with my mates S3 their both wonderful devices but S3 is pretty good apart from how the screen is weak as an iphones screen lol.
Anyway I've decided to go with the S4, and have ordered one
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I am keeping the S2, that phone is so well built, when i was doing truck tyres I'd smack it around etc (not on purpose) and not a crack or signs of damage. I'm not too fussed about the S5 I'd never get anything on release as their will be likely problems with it... just look at GTA 5 lol...
Yeah I was doing a bit of research on them today, played around with my mates S3 their both wonderful devices but S3 is pretty good apart from how the screen is weak as an iphones screen lol.
Anyway I've decided to go with the S4, and have ordered one
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Anyway it' s a good choice
Hi,
I've owned every Samsung flagship and a few nexus's since the Samsung galaxy S2 days(currently own a note 4), And I've always enjoyed XDA (and Android obviously) as I could root and change ROMS and do what ever I wanted with the phone.
However, I learned my lesson when I got the Exynos varient S4 a couple of years ago. As many of you know, Exynos really lacks development with AOSP based ROMS. With my S4 while the Snapdragon varient had a working and stable CM ROM after a month, on the Exynos forums we waited for maybe a year until we got a sami-working CM, and even the last I checked, just to see if progress was made, I saw that those Exynos related bugs are still there(random audio problems, etc). Because I was smarter when I went for the Note 4 I made sure to get the Snapdragon varient and sure enough I'm enjoying CM since basically the phone came out while those with the Exynos note4 had to literally make a forum wide donation, recruit a random dev from xda, fund and buy him a device and since then I think only lately the've started getting some AOSP love(after months and months of dev, and still there are annoying bugs).
I have no idea if it's because Samsung won't share their Exynos sources or just because it's more difficult to develop with this SoC. However- If you are on XDA I can imagine you like having fun with ROMS. Maybe not everyone, but most of us like this site for a reason.
The fact is that I hated my S4 days as I could only choose TouchWiz ROMS(and they aren't that much different). This time, even if I'm not on CM, I can always flash TouchWiz: I have the option, and it's so very much different and not frustrating to be bound to only touchwiz.
The choice is yours, and if there was a snapdragon varient i'd tell you to pick it(..I still like samsung phones) but as it's only exynos..well, just like my S4, the note4, the S6 and basically every other Exynos device- you'd suffer from development.
good luck!
Edit: btw I was only talking about AOSP based development. For those of you that care about samsung updates more - you should know that samsung are treating their Note series very badly when it's related to updates. I didn't own a note2, or a note 3. But I have the note4 and I can promise you I've never owned a device that got treated as badly as this one. Maybe it's only the note4, no idea. But Lollipop update took months upon months to release and it was with many bugs. So far, we didn't get 5.1 as well, even though other Galaxy devices got it awhile ago. It seems like Samsung don't really like the Note series..
for more info just so you won't think I'm bashing for nothing: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/05/why-do-you-hate-the-galaxy-note-4-so-much-samsung/
**If you want Samsung to bring faster updates, and be more developer friendly, instead of buying the next phone and praise it- don't buy it and maybe they'll get the msg. personally I'm gonna go a non Samsung flagship next time and see if their attitude changes by the next note**
Does this thread relates or discuss anything about the Note 5.
OP, I was skeptical when I saw your post but after reading it I appreciate your insight.
When I get my Note 5 I will miss being able to tether more than anything. I only need to root to be able to tether.
Mark7z said:
Does this thread relates or discuss anything about the Note 5.
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Try the Android Central forums for the Note 5. It isn't plagued by whining and negativity....
Sher The Love said:
Try the Android Central forums for the Note 5. It isn't plagued by whining and negativity....
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seriously though, 50+ people complaining about it not being a note4 and 5 people actually talking about their new phones.
IDK about you guys, but I have a note5 and would like to discuss the note5.
you know I am too over the whining, crying and fit throwing about the Note 5. All this *****ing isn't changing a damn thing and Samsung isn't going to change something that people are whining about anytime soon. I am all for discussing the Note 5 and leave the comparisons to the Note 4 behind us. Whew I feel better now .
This is the same crap that went on with the Nexus 6. Smartphones are moving in this direction whether we like it or not. Removable storage and batteries are becoming a thing of the past. If that's what you want hang on to your old Note. Let's move on people and concentrate on the facts when the device gets in the hand of users. Which by the way, is starting to look stellar and will probably sell well.
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Actually in not trying to be patronizing I realize that this is about the note5 and specifically about its processor. Yes he references other phones but that was to show similarities between the exynos soc and the snapdragon soc. In a much shorter post he said.
"If you like flashing roms and you like AOSP then you may be disappointed by Samsung choice of processor. It makes development a pain in the @$$. "Be Aware".
Instead of complaining about complaints, read, understand, and move on if you don't like it. The problem is that you're on xda. This IS the place to discuss possible development OR THE LACK THEREOF. Not that many people have the phone yet. And to be honest the real developers probably aren't going to waste money on the note 5 because of what the OP stated.
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Actually in not trying to be patronizing I realize that this is about the note5 and specifically about its processor. Yes he references other phones but that was to show similarities between the exynos soc and the snapdragon soc. In a much shorter post he said.
"If you like flashing roms and you like AOSP then you may be disappointed by Samsung choice of processor. It makes development a pain in the @$$. "Be Aware".
Instead of complaining about complaints, read, understand, and move on if you don't like it. The problem is that you're on xda. This IS the place to discuss possible development OR THE LACK THEREOF. Not that many people have the phone yet. And to be honest the real developers probably aren't going to waste money on the note 5 because of what the OP stated.
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Yes but this has been true for all Exynos SoC devices for years, it shouldnt come as a shock to anyone who has been even slightly aware of XDA and samsung for the past 3+ years. It is brought up literally every time samsung launches a device with Exynos, literally every time, which seeing as every samsung release in the past year has had Exynos, this should be common knowledge at this point.
Just because something is true does not remove disdain. Murders happen every 5 minutes. This is true. But is it something that people like? I mean I don't have a note 5. Nor do I care to bash it. But I do find it funny that people who are logged into and are users of a site that can sometimes be referred to as power user central are mad because power users are complaining about something lost that they held dear to them.
I really don't think people are mad that they are complaining as much as it is the volume of which they are complaining that is wearing on people. I get it with every iteration comes change, and with every change comes complaints about the change but there comes a time when you just have to say fine " I don't like this change and so I will have to deal with it or find something else that tickles my fancy" and go on. We all knew weeks ahead of time that the removable battery and the sdcard was going by by. The leaks confirmed it. Like it or not it happened and it also turned out that the battery lost 220mAh which really people isn't that much of a loss and considering that the other improvements like (processor, ddr4 ram, LTE radio, 4.1 bluetooth, ect...) it very may well surprise you, and from the few threads and articles that I have read so far that seems to be the case. Now is it really or is it the way they have used their device, who knows. but I have owned ALOT of phones in my time and I have yet no matter which phone I owned did a battery swap yet even though I have been known to carry a spare at times.
I guess my suggestion to the people that really are pissed off about the changes, write a letter to samsung or something to that affect because I'm 99.9% sure *****ing about it here in the threads isn't doing a darn thing towards change. I could be wrong.
And again Im not flaming the people that are complaining its just my opinion...
I personally won't buy a note device to throw asop on it. While it's nice to have the option, you lose all the functionality you bought the note device for any way. Buy a nexus if you are overly concerned about being able to run CM/AOSP ect. A nice optimized TW rom is all i look for with a Note as is the case with my note 4.
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IDK about you guys, but I have a note5 and would like to discuss the note5.
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First step to achieving that would be simply ignoring posts with titles like this one has. Lol
Is it just me or the fact that every Samsung handset is being released with an Exynos might be a good thing due to the fact that the Exynos itself might have a higher bounty to develop for?? :fingers-crossed:
gabo1 said:
Is it just me or the fact that every Samsung handset is being released with an Exynos might be a good thing due to the fact that the Exynos itself might have a higher bounty to develop for?? :fingers-crossed:
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It's more a matter of sources and ease to develop for.
gabo1 said:
Is it just me or the fact that every Samsung handset is being released with an Exynos might be a good thing due to the fact that the Exynos itself might have a higher bounty to develop for?? :fingers-crossed:
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exynos is difficult to develop for whereas snapdragon is of a wider developer support
lightiv said:
OP, I was skeptical when I saw your post but after reading it I appreciate your insight.
When I get my Note 5 I will miss being able to tether more than anything. I only need to root to be able to tether.
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If it's like the S6, FoxFi worked great for the Verizon model.
demand and supply, as i was stating. Now that we all will be rocking Exynos, devs might be more prone to look further into it.
Here is a thread if you haven't noticed it yet that may shed some light .....
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=568536&goto=postid&p=4615669#post4615669
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demand and supply, as i was stating. Now that we all will be rocking Exynos, devs might be more prone to look further into it.
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Back to the days of the GS3, the problem was not that there is no devs but that there is no sources.
Even now, there is no completely finished lolipop ROM.
HI All,
Do you consider true that Exynos 990 version for Note 20 Ultra would be heavily improved and updated to match at least the Snapdragon 865 SoC?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/rumor-galaxy-note-20-exynos-990-soc-heavily-optimized/
stefanz08 said:
HI All,
Do you consider true that Exynos 990 version for Note 20 Ultra would be heavily improved and updated to match at least the Snapdragon 865 SoC?
https://www.sammobile.com/news/rumor-galaxy-note-20-exynos-990-soc-heavily-optimized/
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In terms of raw power, esp. GPU, they cannot, but anything can be optimized so that it feels smooth and responsive.
QuoPrimum said:
In terms of raw power, esp. GPU, they cannot, but anything can be optimized so that it feels smooth and responsive.
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I am not refering to GPU, but in terms of optimisation, smootness and standby battery draw and termal optimisation.
Part of the problem is/was throttling and this has allegedly been addressed. As most of you have probably seen there are new benchmarks which purport to show it not being so spruced up as some are saying. Going to need some real numbers from real users with an actual production device to know for sure.
I wonder - with Samsung releasing the Snapdragon varient in their Home Country, South Korea, it seems to me they seem like they are giving up on Exynos. I could be wrong of course ......
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I wonder - with Samsung releasing the Snapdragon varient in their Home Country, South Korea, it seems to me they seem like they are giving up on Exynos. I could be wrong of course ......
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the fact that they ditched the exynos in their home country is pretty much them admitting that they know it sucks.
but they stick it to other countries anyway....not cool.
force70 said:
the fact that they ditched the exynos in their home country is pretty much them admitting that they know it sucks.
but they stick it to other countries anyway....not cool.
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They know people will still buy the exynos anyway and then when they buy it, knowing fully well that exynos is inferior, they mourn about it.
After the Note 10 plus, I decided that I really didn't need to root my phone any longer. I live in the US so in the past, I would buy an Exynos variant from the UK of whatever Samsung phone was coming out - and then root the phone when Magisk became available. But with each new phone, less and less custom development was out there and the Snapdragon phones that were bootloader locked all seemed to be bit better than their Exynos counterpart.
So - with the S20 Ultra and now the Note 20 Ultra - I am fine with getting the Snapdragon version and not worry about rooting. I haven't missed rooting very much (there are a few things) but for the most part I have been ok with the Non-Rooted Snapdragon - over the rooted Exynos.
And I am looking forward to August 21st (actually hoping it arrives a few days before!
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After the Note 10 plus, I decided that I really didn't need to root my phone any longer. I live in the US so in the past, I would buy an Exynos variant from the UK of whatever Samsung phone was coming out - and then root the phone when Magisk became available. But with each new phone, less and less custom development was out there and the Snapdragon phones that were bootloader locked all seemed to be bit better than their Exynos counterpart.
So - with the S20 Ultra and now the Note 20 Ultra - I am fine with getting the Snapdragon version and not worry about rooting. I haven't missed rooting very much (there are a few things) but for the most part I have been ok with the Non-Rooted Snapdragon - over the rooted Exynos.
And I am looking forward to August 21st (actually hoping it arrives a few days before!
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I haven't felt the necessity to root for the last few years at all. I would say, rooting has way more demerits than pretty negligible merits now a days for all flagships and even several midragers. It might still be helpful in few ways for people who use one for many years without future official software support, but with Samsung's commitment of 3 yrs of software version support for S, N, Z series and even A lines(till hardware supports), the need will be even lesser now..less development is less for a reason , it's just going to be more less, and less!
Software part is already taken care of and will be, by Samsung for those who don't/cannot/will not use for 3 years+ and that's a lengthy time in the world of smartphones. As such, it's unfortunate that the most advanced Samsung flagships do not have the most advanced SoC for EU, India etc..
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So - with the S20 Ultra and now the Note 20 Ultra - I am fine with getting the Snapdragon version and not worry about rooting. I haven't missed rooting very much (there are a few things) but for the most part I have been ok with the Non-Rooted Snapdragon - over the rooted Exynos.
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Actually you can easily get Snapdragon version of the S20 Ultra with unlocked bootloader (SM-G9880/SM-G988N). So there is no need to choose between root and Snapdragon now. I have one and it works just fine.
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Actually you can easily get Snapdragon version of the S20 Ultra with unlocked bootloader (SM-G9880/SM-G988N). So there is no need to choose between root and Snapdragon now. I have one and it works just fine.
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I understand - but what I didn't mention is that I also want to make sure that ATT Wifi Calling and Video Calling on ATT Works - In addition, I am trading in my old Galaxy S20 Ultra which lowers my cost by $650 - I don't think either of these things are possible if buy anything different than what I have already purchased.
And my point stands - I really don't miss root at all. There just isn't enough "extra" that I can do with a rooted phone that makes it worth rooting., For ME.
That is my opinion for me only - you and anyone else who feels different can certainly do whatever you feel is right for you.
Best of luck my friend - can't wait for the new NOTE 20 Ultra to arrive!