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[Q] Will updating a rooted Note 3 in Kies brick my phone?

Hey guys
I have a Galaxy note 3 with Rogers here in Canada (SM-N900W8) and I know there has been 2 updates released (MJ1 and MJ4) but I havent been able to update over the air because my phone is rooted and flagged and my knox trigger is flagged as well.
Using Wanam xposed I have my status set to official and I can download the new update but the installation will fail.
Anyway so I connected my phone to KIES and it says I can update, however before I update it says if my phone is rooted its possible I can brick my phone.
So my questions are, 2 install these updates (MJ1 and MJ4), will it brick my phone? If it doesnt will I lose my root? Can I reroot on these latest firmwares and lastly is there reasons why maybe I should stay at my current firmware?
Sorry if this has been asked before. Ive tried searching and I didnt have much luck
Thanks

djtiko said:
Hey guys
I have a Galaxy note 3 with Rogers here in Canada (SM-N900W8) and I know there has been 2 updates released (MJ1 and MJ4) but I havent been able to update over the air because my phone is rooted and flagged and my knox trigger is flagged as well.
Using Wanam xposed I have my status set to official and I can download the new update but the installation will fail.
Anyway so I connected my phone to KIES and it says I can update, however before I update it says if my phone is rooted its possible I can brick my phone.
So my questions are, 2 install these updates (MJ1 and MJ4), will it brick my phone? If it doesnt will I lose my root? Can I reroot on these latest firmwares and lastly is there reasons why maybe I should stay at my current firmware?
Sorry if this has been asked before. Ive tried searching and I didnt have much luck
Thanks
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Short answer is NO.
I updated mine via KIES to MJ7 (I'm on the N9005) - while rooted. KIES says you "may" encounter problems but mine was fine and I re-rooted with ease (already tripped KNOX so no worry there for me) _- as for your firmware on the N900W8 - not sure if you can root with the latest firmware or not personally

[Q] Rooting Verizon S5 With Towel Root And Edge Program?

So i'm fairly new to the android rooting world coming from a ( Iphone 4S ). I had a upgrade so I said what the heck and I switched over to the "edge" program up to the S5. So now this phone is on the Verizon edge plan and I have questions about rooting it.
1. If I use towel root will it set off knox?
2. Will I be able to install a custom recovery after its rooted with towel root without setting off knox?
3. Will I be able to set the phone to stock firmware (for warranty,edge up etc)?
4. After the phone is on original software will Verizon and/or Samsung know if it was rooted?
5 How would I set it back to stock firmware if I use towel root?
6. Anybody root a S5 that's on the Verizon edge up program?
I would like to avoid setting off knox
Thanks fellas I know I sound like a full on N00b lol. I look forward to hearing back from you folks.

PSM 6.4 said:
this phone is on the Verizon edge plan and I have questions about rooting it.
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There have been 76,104 posts asking these questions, so consider doing a forum search next time. Not only would you get a faster answer, but existing threads are a wealth of useful information.
Towel root has not incremented Knox in the past. However a recent OTA update - if your phone downloaded it - blocks the Towel root exploit. The workaround to that is to use a program called Odin to install an older, pre-update (pre June 3rd) version of the firmware to the phone. Then Towel root will work.
Most carriers do not lock phone bootloaders. Verizon is one of the few that does. This means that you cannot install a custom recovery or kernel directly. You can use the Safestrap program to emulate a custom recovery though. Attempting to install a conventional custom recovery may increment Knox.
Accepting any OTA firmware updates will likely deactivate root on your phone, meaning that it would have to be rooted again.
If you completely remove root and install stock firmware on your phone, the carrier should not be able to tell provided that you have not incremented the Knox counter. Knox is, in practical terms, irreversible. You aren't going to be able to decrement it anytime soon.
If you read the forums, you'd learn a lot more about your phone and the options available.
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fffft said:
There have been 76,104 posts asking these questions, so consider doing a forum search next time. Not only would you get a faster answer, but existing threads are a wealth of useful information.
Towel root has not incremented Knox in the past. However a recent OTA update - if your phone downloaded it - blocks the Towel root exploit. The workaround to that is to use a program called Odin to install an older, pre-update (pre June 3rd) version of the firmware to the phone. Then Towel root will work.
Most carriers do not lock phone bootloaders. Verizon is one of the few that does. This means that you cannot install a custom recovery or kernel directly. You can use the Safestrap program to emulate a custom recovery though. Attempting to install a conventional custom recovery may increment Knox.
Accepting any OTA firmware updates will likely deactivate root on your phone, meaning that it would have to be rooted again.
If you completely remove root and install stock firmware on your phone, the carrier should not be able to tell provided that you have not incremented the Knox counter. Knox is, in practical terms, irreversible. You aren't going to be able to decrement it anytime soon.
If you read the forums, you'd learn a lot more about your phone and the options available.
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Hi fffft thanks for your reply I really appreciate it. I wasn't sure if Odin would set off knox. I have rooted and installed custom OS's and recoveries a lot of galaxy/android phones in the past but not on a Verizon Android/ S5. Wasn't sure of the procedures were any different. I have read a lot of threads pertaining to this subject before I even started this thread and I have learned a lot on the new S5. I just wanted to get my "specific" questions answered. I'll be sure to research a little more before I start new threads. Thanks again.

fffft said:
There have been 76,104 posts asking these questions, so consider doing a forum search next time. Not only would you get a faster answer, but existing threads are a wealth of useful information.
Towel root has not incremented Knox in the past. However a recent OTA update - if your phone downloaded it - blocks the Towel root exploit. The workaround to that is to use a program called Odin to install an older, pre-update (pre June 3rd) version of the firmware to the phone. Then Towel root will work.
Most carriers do not lock phone bootloaders. Verizon is one of the few that does. This means that you cannot install a custom recovery or kernel directly. You can use the Safestrap program to emulate a custom recovery though. Attempting to install a conventional custom recovery may increment Knox.
Accepting any OTA firmware updates will likely deactivate root on your phone, meaning that it would have to be rooted again.
If you completely remove root and install stock firmware on your phone, the carrier should not be able to tell provided that you have not incremented the Knox counter. Knox is, in practical terms, irreversible. You aren't going to be able to decrement it anytime soon.
If you read the forums, you'd learn a lot more about your phone and the options available.
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Best answer, what a guy.
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[Q] Questions about rooting my phone and the warranty.

Hello, I just joined this community
I switched from iPhone and got me a Samsung Galaxy S5(Canada model, Rogers carrier, SM-G900W8) a few weeks ago and I want to root it.
My question is, does rooting it void the warranty? And if for example I have it rooted and then after some time It suddenly breaks(hardware failure)
Does making a factory reset/unrooting or whatever leave any traces that it has been previously rooted so Samsung dosen't know and my warranty can still be valid?
Sidenote: On my rooted Asus TF300T, after unlocking the bootloader to install a custom ROM and root, every time it boots there is a message "This device is unlocked." on the top left of the screen...
I'm not very familiar with Samsung devices rooting but from what ive read rooting it could trigger KNOX?
Another thing... Does all of this also apply to switching Kernel?
I already searched a bit on this subject, it does answer on some of my points but partially, so if I broke a posting rule I'm sorry and take the necessary actions
Thanks in advance

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fffft said:
That's because you didn't try looking for them. There are lots of answers in the forum, this question has in fact been asked and answered hundreds of times in existing threads. Had you read a few threads in the forum or did a Google search you'd had the answers yesterday. You say that you searched but your questions contradict that. Any reasonable search would have answered most if not all of your questions. If you really searched, tell us how and what you searched for.
Have an actual look and if you have any remaining questions after reading some existing threads, come back and we'll answer those questions.
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I searched on Google + the forum's search bar and I haven't really found... Perhaps they were asked and stated differently?

danfolea said:
Hello, I just joined this community
I switched from iPhone and got me a Samsung Galaxy S5(Canada model, Rogers carrier, SM-G900W8) a few weeks ago and I want to root it.
My question is, does rooting it void the warranty? And if for example I have it rooted and then after some time It suddenly breaks(hardware failure)
Does making a factory reset/unrooting or whatever leave any traces that it has been previously rooted so Samsung dosen't know and my warranty can still be valid?
Sidenote: On my rooted Asus TF300T, after unlocking the bootloader to install a custom ROM and root, every time it boots there is a message "This device is unlocked." on the top left of the screen...
I'm not very familiar with Samsung devices rooting but from what ive read rooting it could trigger KNOX?
Another thing... Does all of this also apply to switching Kernel?
I already searched a bit on this subject, it does answer on some of my points but partially, so if I broke a posting rule I'm sorry and take the necessary actions
Thanks in advance
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Rooting with CF Auto Root will always trigger KNOX, this also goes for flashing a custom recovery or kernel. You need to downgrade to an older firmware version like ANE2 and then root with Towelroot. Then install SuperSU & BusyBox and after that Mobile Odin Pro (enable Everroot) and flash the latest firmware version and still keep root and KNOX on 0x0.

gee2012 said:
Rooting with CF Auto Root will always trigger KNOX, this also goes for flashing a custom recovery or kernel. You need to downgrade to an older firmware version like ANE2 and then root with Towelroot. Then install SuperSU & BusyBox and after that Mobile Odin Pro (enable Everroot) and flash the latest firmware version and still keep root and KNOX on 0x0.
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Thank you for the help, I will inform myself on this method! Any idea if this makes the device About > Status "Official" to "Modified"? And is it easily unrootable without leaving traces?

danfolea said:
Thank you for the help, I will inform myself on this method! Any idea if this makes the device About > Status "Official" to "Modified"? And is it easily unrootable without leaving traces?
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Install Triangle Away from Play to reset the system status and binaries to official.
Unrooting:
- Use TA to reset the status and binaries to official, check it in downloadmode.
- Unroot from within the superSU app
- Reflash the latest rom with PC Odin
- Data factory reset and you`re done.

danfolea said:
Hello, I just joined this community
I switched from iPhone and got me a Samsung Galaxy S5(Canada model, Rogers carrier, SM-G900W8) a few weeks ago and I want to root it.
My question is, does rooting it void the warranty? And if for example I have it rooted and then after some time It suddenly breaks(hardware failure)
Does making a factory reset/unrooting or whatever leave any traces that it has been previously rooted so Samsung dosen't know and my warranty can still be valid?
Sidenote: On my rooted Asus TF300T, after unlocking the bootloader to install a custom ROM and root, every time it boots there is a message "This device is unlocked." on the top left of the screen...
I'm not very familiar with Samsung devices rooting but from what ive read rooting it could trigger KNOX?
Another thing... Does all of this also apply to switching Kernel?
I already searched a bit on this subject, it does answer on some of my points but partially, so if I broke a posting rule I'm sorry and take the necessary actions
Thanks in advance
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I have the Bell Galaxy S5 and I rooted my phone with an app called Towelroot which won't trip knox. Now, if you want to install a custom recovery and custom rom on your phone, knox will be tripped but by rooting your phone with Towelroot, knox will still be 0x0

Updating to 5.0 and keeping root?

Hi Guys
There's an OTA 5.0 update ready for my GS5. The problem is that I have root (Towelroot) and want to keep it.
From what I've been reading it looks like all root methods are either ustable of KNOX tripping.
Thanks in advance.

Same issue here
I've got a G900F - no carrier, but running on 3 in the UK anyway. When I got it, it was on Kitkat, and Towelroot wouldn't work due to the compile date being > Towelroot's ability. I downgraded the kernal as per the thread in the General section (as a note, the thread "How to root - all variants" is so far out of date, it's going to lead to people with less experience nuking their devices, perhaps we should unsticky that thread and write up a cleaner version for all the variants out there?) then rooted, and changed the kernal back to my original one.
Great - now I have a rooted, KNOX 0x0 S5 running kitkat. Now Lollipop is available and I'd like to update. So some questions on how I do this and...
1. Retain root with KNOX 0x0
2. Not trash my installed apps / configurations
I know I'll need to update via say Kies as OTA won't be available to me but if/when I update will I keep installed apps / configs? And how do I keep root without affecting KNOX?
This would, I imagine, be a common scenario and worth creating a sticky / section in an updated "How to root all variants" sticky.
Thanks everyone,
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Take this only as a pointer because I can't remember exactly what I read, but I think you can update to Lollipop using Mobile ODIN Pro with the Pre-Root option checked, using a stock Lollipop ROM from sammobile / XDA so long as you are already running a rooted KitKat ROM, and that doesn't flag the KNOX counter
Im new to the S5 and just gathering info myself, so make sure you check up on that yourself thoroughly first

*Detection* said:
Take this only as a pointer because I can't remember exactly what I read, but I think you can update to Lollipop using Mobile ODIN Pro with the Pre-Root option checked, using a stock Lollipop ROM from sammobile / XDA so long as you are already running a rooted KitKat ROM, and that doesn't flag the KNOX counter
Im new to the S5 and just gathering info myself, so make sure you check up on that yourself thoroughly first
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Thanks for reminding us of Mobile Odin Pro. It's got the ability to reinject root on firmware installation and not tripping the binary counter.
Can someone confirm whether this method still works on Galaxy S5 when installing 5.0 firmware?

The last comment from Chainfire in his mobile odin thread was that it wasn't compatible yet.....but being worked on......no updates since that post.
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5

Yep, that's what I thought as well. I guess I will have to wait a bit. No big deal.
Thanks Keithross

S5 from kitkat to lolipop info

hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance

nwmn said:
hi guys my name is mike i have S5 G900F model with stock 4.4.2 kitkat rooted with towelroot method Knox (0x0)
if i flashed with stock rom again to lolipop i lost root ? if yes can u tell me other way to do it without tripped know of course
ty in advance
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Hi Mike, search the forums before asking any questions. Search google. Don't expect everyone to do your job for you. Post your threads in the right section. This question has been asked and answered a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes to search a little bit.
Here's your answer https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxys5/comments/2ubsbs/guide_rooted_android_50_for_the_international/

out of curiosity, why dont you want to trip knox flag
"This question has been asked a million times and you'd know this if you took 5 minutes of your precious time to search a little bit."
Ironic for a man that follows people around *****ing at them to post in Q&A

Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new

nwmn said:
Sorry guys i have spend many hours on forums to find a anwser but i dont find anything thanx for time anyways the link give me lingo is not exactly what i want i ask if can upgrader via odin in last lolipop stock filmware without loosing root exackly the way i do downgrade and other question is i have unlocked bootloader ? how can find that
i dont want void knox cuz phone is new
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What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?

lingowistico said:
What model do you have? Find out in phone settings in system / phone info. Sm-g900a has locked bootloader. I think verizon's phone also has a locked bootloader.
The link I gave you shows how to upgrade to lollipop, root it and keep knox 0x0.
Isn't that what you're looking for?
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i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?

nwmn said:
i have G900F i think i write it in first post , anyway well that i looking for but not exactly i wanna know if g900f have unlocking bootloader or how can find it and if i upgrade stock rom from kitkat to lolipop i lost root without change modem or anything else downgrade was easy my s5 was braned vodafone germany i download stock rom from samsung mobile and i made unbrand greece whymi must flash modem and why i must use moblile odin that is some questions turture me ty for ur time
ps. always i must put image verification to post this change after 10 post ?
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my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p

lingowistico said:
my bad, you did. 900f has an unlocked bootloader. when you upgrade to stock lollipop through OTA or Kies (or odin) it already includes bootloader and modem. When you do it the way described in that reddit link you flash the lollipop firmware, modem and bootloader separately. Apparently that method of updating needs it to be done so.
Honestly I have Knox 0x1 so I never cared for those methods, btw if you live in Germany then there's no need to care about Knox. In EU we're allowed to flash whatever we want and the guarantee stays intact even if you have Knox 0x1
ps. yes =p
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thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Honestly, I don't know. That reddit link I gave you, I haven't read the guide myself. I just skimmed though it to be sure it was real but I don't know the details of it. Yes all G900Fs have an unlocked bootloader. :good:

nwmn said:
thats is awesome news u r sure bootloader is unlock with all G900F models?
two more questions ty for your petions
1)i still have OTA if upgrade with SuperSU survival mode to last lolipop i keep root/data?
2)if upgrade with odin last lolipop i keep root/data?
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Do you mean ota stock firmware notification? If yes then you will have it if Knox is still 0x0 if Knox however is 0x1 you will no longer be able to update via ota.
If you want to upgrade from KitKat to lollipop you must wipe data from recovery to avoid any issues. It is also not recommended by me to use titanium backup to restore apps because some might not be compatible with lollipop yet or some of the app data made for KitKat may have a conflict with lollipop system, however lots of apps have compatibility with lollipop and there is a chance you will have no issues at all when using titanium backup. Even if I said I don't recommend restoring data after such a major upgrade I do recommend having a backup whether it's with titanium backup or nandroid etc because you're able to restore apps one by one and make sure that what you restore won't be problematic.
Edit - if you update with flashfire app, there is an option to keep root when flashing from rooted KitKat to lollipop and users have reported that that feature does work for them (I personally haven't tried it).
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Here's a version of the method on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...2nd-method-t2843044/post54719865#post54719865