So i'm fairly new to the android rooting world coming from a ( Iphone 4S ). I had a upgrade so I said what the heck and I switched over to the "edge" program up to the S5. So now this phone is on the Verizon edge plan and I have questions about rooting it.
1. If I use towel root will it set off knox?
2. Will I be able to install a custom recovery after its rooted with towel root without setting off knox?
3. Will I be able to set the phone to stock firmware (for warranty,edge up etc)?
4. After the phone is on original software will Verizon and/or Samsung know if it was rooted?
5 How would I set it back to stock firmware if I use towel root?
6. Anybody root a S5 that's on the Verizon edge up program?
I would like to avoid setting off knox
Thanks fellas I know I sound like a full on N00b lol. I look forward to hearing back from you folks.
PSM 6.4 said:
this phone is on the Verizon edge plan and I have questions about rooting it.
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There have been 76,104 posts asking these questions, so consider doing a forum search next time. Not only would you get a faster answer, but existing threads are a wealth of useful information.
Towel root has not incremented Knox in the past. However a recent OTA update - if your phone downloaded it - blocks the Towel root exploit. The workaround to that is to use a program called Odin to install an older, pre-update (pre June 3rd) version of the firmware to the phone. Then Towel root will work.
Most carriers do not lock phone bootloaders. Verizon is one of the few that does. This means that you cannot install a custom recovery or kernel directly. You can use the Safestrap program to emulate a custom recovery though. Attempting to install a conventional custom recovery may increment Knox.
Accepting any OTA firmware updates will likely deactivate root on your phone, meaning that it would have to be rooted again.
If you completely remove root and install stock firmware on your phone, the carrier should not be able to tell provided that you have not incremented the Knox counter. Knox is, in practical terms, irreversible. You aren't going to be able to decrement it anytime soon.
If you read the forums, you'd learn a lot more about your phone and the options available.
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There have been 76,104 posts asking these questions, so consider doing a forum search next time. Not only would you get a faster answer, but existing threads are a wealth of useful information.
Towel root has not incremented Knox in the past. However a recent OTA update - if your phone downloaded it - blocks the Towel root exploit. The workaround to that is to use a program called Odin to install an older, pre-update (pre June 3rd) version of the firmware to the phone. Then Towel root will work.
Most carriers do not lock phone bootloaders. Verizon is one of the few that does. This means that you cannot install a custom recovery or kernel directly. You can use the Safestrap program to emulate a custom recovery though. Attempting to install a conventional custom recovery may increment Knox.
Accepting any OTA firmware updates will likely deactivate root on your phone, meaning that it would have to be rooted again.
If you completely remove root and install stock firmware on your phone, the carrier should not be able to tell provided that you have not incremented the Knox counter. Knox is, in practical terms, irreversible. You aren't going to be able to decrement it anytime soon.
If you read the forums, you'd learn a lot more about your phone and the options available.
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Hi fffft thanks for your reply I really appreciate it. I wasn't sure if Odin would set off knox. I have rooted and installed custom OS's and recoveries a lot of galaxy/android phones in the past but not on a Verizon Android/ S5. Wasn't sure of the procedures were any different. I have read a lot of threads pertaining to this subject before I even started this thread and I have learned a lot on the new S5. I just wanted to get my "specific" questions answered. I'll be sure to research a little more before I start new threads. Thanks again.
fffft said:
There have been 76,104 posts asking these questions, so consider doing a forum search next time. Not only would you get a faster answer, but existing threads are a wealth of useful information.
Towel root has not incremented Knox in the past. However a recent OTA update - if your phone downloaded it - blocks the Towel root exploit. The workaround to that is to use a program called Odin to install an older, pre-update (pre June 3rd) version of the firmware to the phone. Then Towel root will work.
Most carriers do not lock phone bootloaders. Verizon is one of the few that does. This means that you cannot install a custom recovery or kernel directly. You can use the Safestrap program to emulate a custom recovery though. Attempting to install a conventional custom recovery may increment Knox.
Accepting any OTA firmware updates will likely deactivate root on your phone, meaning that it would have to be rooted again.
If you completely remove root and install stock firmware on your phone, the carrier should not be able to tell provided that you have not incremented the Knox counter. Knox is, in practical terms, irreversible. You aren't going to be able to decrement it anytime soon.
If you read the forums, you'd learn a lot more about your phone and the options available.
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Best answer, what a guy.
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Hello!
I've been falling behind in android workings in the last couple of years. There seems to be many different ways to flash rom these days and now that KNOX has become such an nuisance for thousands of samsung users, I'm really lost at this time.
Since introducing towelroot, me and many others have been able to root successfully note 3 android 4.4.2, so the question arise in my head that is there a way to flash custom rom without tripping knox? If so and there are more than one way, what are the easiest ways?
Mobile Odin Pro may be an option for this.
As long as you do not flash custom kernel or recovery in any way (be aware of ROMs that may do it), you shouldn't trip KNOX. Emphasis on "shouldn't", I can't give any guarantees.
I have been having the same question... Not that I care so much about the knox portion but in general it seems that roms aren't working on the 4.4.2 update, with NC4 anyway. I have my phone rooted and safestrap going which is about where I'm stuck till I get an answer.
stuff_me said:
Hello!
I've been falling behind in android workings in the last couple of years. There seems to be many different ways to flash rom these days and now that KNOX has become such an nuisance for thousands of samsung users, I'm really lost at this time.
Since introducing towelroot, me and many others have been able to root successfully note 3 android 4.4.2, so the question arise in my head that is there a way to flash custom rom without tripping knox? If so and there are more than one way, what are the easiest ways?
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Someguyfromhell said:
Mobile Odin Pro may be an option for this.
As long as you do not flash custom kernel or recovery in any way (be aware of ROMs that may do it), you shouldn't trip KNOX. Emphasis on "shouldn't", I can't give any guarantees.
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Damn... so I cannot flash any custom kernel without tripping knox? I read before about not being able to flash custom recovery, but I was hoping to be able to change at least the kernel for something that supports overclocking now that I have root access.
This knox seems to be the biggest decease of the mobile world right now. I pay few hundred euros for basically pocket sized computer and I cannot choose myself what software to run on it?
Hello, I just joined this community
I switched from iPhone and got me a Samsung Galaxy S5(Canada model, Rogers carrier, SM-G900W8) a few weeks ago and I want to root it.
My question is, does rooting it void the warranty? And if for example I have it rooted and then after some time It suddenly breaks(hardware failure)
Does making a factory reset/unrooting or whatever leave any traces that it has been previously rooted so Samsung dosen't know and my warranty can still be valid?
Sidenote: On my rooted Asus TF300T, after unlocking the bootloader to install a custom ROM and root, every time it boots there is a message "This device is unlocked." on the top left of the screen...
I'm not very familiar with Samsung devices rooting but from what ive read rooting it could trigger KNOX?
Another thing... Does all of this also apply to switching Kernel?
I already searched a bit on this subject, it does answer on some of my points but partially, so if I broke a posting rule I'm sorry and take the necessary actions
Thanks in advance
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fffft said:
That's because you didn't try looking for them. There are lots of answers in the forum, this question has in fact been asked and answered hundreds of times in existing threads. Had you read a few threads in the forum or did a Google search you'd had the answers yesterday. You say that you searched but your questions contradict that. Any reasonable search would have answered most if not all of your questions. If you really searched, tell us how and what you searched for.
Have an actual look and if you have any remaining questions after reading some existing threads, come back and we'll answer those questions.
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I searched on Google + the forum's search bar and I haven't really found... Perhaps they were asked and stated differently?
danfolea said:
Hello, I just joined this community
I switched from iPhone and got me a Samsung Galaxy S5(Canada model, Rogers carrier, SM-G900W8) a few weeks ago and I want to root it.
My question is, does rooting it void the warranty? And if for example I have it rooted and then after some time It suddenly breaks(hardware failure)
Does making a factory reset/unrooting or whatever leave any traces that it has been previously rooted so Samsung dosen't know and my warranty can still be valid?
Sidenote: On my rooted Asus TF300T, after unlocking the bootloader to install a custom ROM and root, every time it boots there is a message "This device is unlocked." on the top left of the screen...
I'm not very familiar with Samsung devices rooting but from what ive read rooting it could trigger KNOX?
Another thing... Does all of this also apply to switching Kernel?
I already searched a bit on this subject, it does answer on some of my points but partially, so if I broke a posting rule I'm sorry and take the necessary actions
Thanks in advance
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Rooting with CF Auto Root will always trigger KNOX, this also goes for flashing a custom recovery or kernel. You need to downgrade to an older firmware version like ANE2 and then root with Towelroot. Then install SuperSU & BusyBox and after that Mobile Odin Pro (enable Everroot) and flash the latest firmware version and still keep root and KNOX on 0x0.
gee2012 said:
Rooting with CF Auto Root will always trigger KNOX, this also goes for flashing a custom recovery or kernel. You need to downgrade to an older firmware version like ANE2 and then root with Towelroot. Then install SuperSU & BusyBox and after that Mobile Odin Pro (enable Everroot) and flash the latest firmware version and still keep root and KNOX on 0x0.
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Thank you for the help, I will inform myself on this method! Any idea if this makes the device About > Status "Official" to "Modified"? And is it easily unrootable without leaving traces?
danfolea said:
Thank you for the help, I will inform myself on this method! Any idea if this makes the device About > Status "Official" to "Modified"? And is it easily unrootable without leaving traces?
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Install Triangle Away from Play to reset the system status and binaries to official.
Unrooting:
- Use TA to reset the status and binaries to official, check it in downloadmode.
- Unroot from within the superSU app
- Reflash the latest rom with PC Odin
- Data factory reset and you`re done.
danfolea said:
Hello, I just joined this community
I switched from iPhone and got me a Samsung Galaxy S5(Canada model, Rogers carrier, SM-G900W8) a few weeks ago and I want to root it.
My question is, does rooting it void the warranty? And if for example I have it rooted and then after some time It suddenly breaks(hardware failure)
Does making a factory reset/unrooting or whatever leave any traces that it has been previously rooted so Samsung dosen't know and my warranty can still be valid?
Sidenote: On my rooted Asus TF300T, after unlocking the bootloader to install a custom ROM and root, every time it boots there is a message "This device is unlocked." on the top left of the screen...
I'm not very familiar with Samsung devices rooting but from what ive read rooting it could trigger KNOX?
Another thing... Does all of this also apply to switching Kernel?
I already searched a bit on this subject, it does answer on some of my points but partially, so if I broke a posting rule I'm sorry and take the necessary actions
Thanks in advance
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I have the Bell Galaxy S5 and I rooted my phone with an app called Towelroot which won't trip knox. Now, if you want to install a custom recovery and custom rom on your phone, knox will be tripped but by rooting your phone with Towelroot, knox will still be 0x0
Hi guys,
I have the G900F model and I'd like to root for two main reasons: de-bloat and recover SMS/MMS form my old phone (maybe this can be done without root but I don't know such app). It has stock ROM - ANE2 (CSC is AND1), knox is 0x0 and the device status is Official. OTA is pending but I haven't installed it yet. I found the towelroot thread and I'm clear how to root it without tripping knox. Several users also reported that device status remains Official using this root method. So far so good. What I couldn't find was whether after rooting I'll be able to update via OTA, or do I have to go the Odin way. In addition, will the root remain after OTA (if answer to previous question is Yes)? According to SamMobile the October update is ANH6 (CSC ANH2). It says it's still 4.4.2 so I wonder if there is a point in updating anyway. My goal is to have the latest official firmware with root. TIA
mirizlivpor said:
Hi guys,
I have the G900F model and I'd like to root for two main reasons: de-bloat and recover SMS/MMS form my old phone (maybe this can be done without root but I don't know such app). It has stock ROM - ANE2 (CSC is AND1), knox is 0x0 and the device status is Official. OTA is pending but I haven't installed it yet. I found the towelroot thread and I'm clear how to root it without tripping knox. Several users also reported that device status remains Official using this root method. So far so good. What I couldn't find was whether after rooting I'll be able to update via OTA, or do I have to go the Odin way. In addition, will the root remain after OTA (if answer to previous question is Yes)? According to SamMobile the October update is ANH6 (CSC ANH2). It says it's still 4.4.2 so I wonder if there is a point in updating anyway. My goal is to have the latest official firmware with root. TIA
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Maybe you must unroot your phone to get latest firmware..
Next if you got it.. Root again your phone..
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Maybe you must unroot your phone to get latest firmware..
Next if you got it.. Root again your phone..
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That's the thing though - if I update now I'm not sure if I'll be able to root again without any consequences. I'm not rooted at the moment so I can accept the OTA anytime. As I said in OP - I'm not even sure if the update is worth it. I read in some threads that the main purpose of the update was to patch the exploit used by towelroot on older firmwares.
mirizlivpor said:
That's the thing though - if I update now I'm not sure if I'll be able to root again without any consequences. I'm not rooted at the moment so I can accept the OTA anytime. As I said in OP - I'm not even sure if the update is worth it. I read in some threads that the main purpose of the update was to patch the exploit used by towelroot on older firmwares.
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You can root your phone again with framaroot etc. As same function..
The beginning of the framaroot OP states:
"!! Important !!
Success with this application void warranty on your device."
I also don't see the Galaxy S5 in the supported devices list.
mirizlivpor said:
The beginning of the framaroot OP states:
"!! Important !!
Success with this application void warranty on your device."
I also don't see the Galaxy S5 in the supported devices list.
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If not using framaroot.. You can use another root installer..
Last week I received a brand new S5 G900F, no carrier, and want to have administrator privileges in order to remove bloatware. Plus, it would be nice to have adblock and apps to back up the entire system, both which aren't available in the phone's stock form, and maybe a custom ROM and Kernel.
I have never rooted a phone nor messed with its system files, so I'm a complete newbie on this. Also, I haven't connected it to the Internet yet, so that the phone is in its stock form before rooting it.
What's the simplest, safest yet effective method for rooting my phone? Afterwards, can I just update the phone to the latest version using the regular system settings menu, or should I do it externally (downloading the update on the PC)? Any particular tips on what to do next, such as what apps to remove, which to install and so on, if possible while keeping it simple? I read that CM 12.1 (ROM) + Ktoonsez (Kernel) is the way to go.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Avensvvvvvv
The best, safeest way to Root? - Have a look in the Q&A Forum, its mostly all here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700073
Some people use TowelRoot...
I used CF Auto root and found it easier. You can find here at XDA or at http://droidors.com/2015/03/24/root-samsung-galaxy-s5-sm-g900i-android-lollipop-5-0/ be aware that this link is for the g900i ot the g900f.
As for updating etc....a lot of the latest ROMS come with OTA (over the air) updates. Which ROMS? There is kind of a rule here that you dont ask which ROM is best because the idea is that you do loads of reading and try them out for yourself Lately Ive been playing around with PhoeniX ROM, Alliance ROM and some of the CM stuff...but all are good. Removal of Bloatware is pretty straight forward using Titanium Backup - or some ROMS supply their own method for doing do. Just be sure to not mess around with any of the system files while your still learning. Search Bloatware and you should find some good advice.
Thats about it mate - the main thing is to read, read, read and ask lots of questions before you do anything. Otherwise you'll have a very expensive paperweight on your desk Most of the people here are cool with Noobs asking questions in the correct forums....by the way this post should really be posted in the Q&A forum
Good luck flashing and rooting...and most of all....have fun!
Mugsyfied
You have a good answer in the above post.....
But in future, you need to give us more information about your device so that we can offer advice that is suited more exactly to your circumstances....
The version of Android currently running on your device is one critical bit of info you didn't provide.....
Some things to bear in mind about your phone....
1) Samsung have included something called Knox on these phones....it is basically an un-resettable 'eFuse' which 'tripps' when you flash any custom software to your device. Samsung are using it as an indicator to allow them to deny warranty claims.
2) when you root your phone you WILL trip knox, this will probably prevent you from receiving OTA updates to your device....and even if (by some miracle) you did get an OTA, it will remove your root access, and you'll have to start again....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
It's been a while since I've had a Samsung phone, but I recently purchased this S7 second-hand specifically since there is a root method for this phone. I've been reading up for a week, but before I dive in, I'm hoping some of our knowledgeable folks here can help me avoid any irreversible mistakes.
The phone is currently on 6.0.1, October 2016 security update. Is there any reason i shouldn't update to 7.0?
Assuming I do update to 7.0, should I do it first (before root), or do I just flash the engineered boot and the firmware I want? Can I downgrade to 6.0.1 after going to 7.0 if I choose?
I understand there is no custom recovery available, but that I can use Flashfire. Is there any way to use Magisk instead of SuperSU?
Can I use Xposed?
Will altering system in any way trip KNOX? Is there any way to delete system apps (instead of disabling)? Can I move a user app to a system app? (This is the primary reason I'm interested in Magisk, btw.)
As I said, I've done a lot of reading, but couldn't easily find definitive answers to these questions for this particular phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Same Questions, essentially same reasons...
zubblwump said:
It's been a while since I've had a Samsung phone, but I recently purchased this S7 second-hand specifically since there is a root method for this phone. I've been reading up for a week, but before I dive in, I'm hoping some of our knowledgeable folks here can help me avoid any irreversible mistakes.
The phone is currently on 6.0.1, October 2016 security update. Is there any reason i shouldn't update to 7.0?
Assuming I do update to 7.0, should I do it first (before root), or do I just flash the engineered boot and the firmware I want? Can I downgrade to 6.0.1 after going to 7.0 if I choose?
I understand there is no custom recovery available, but that I can use Flashfire. Is there any way to use Magisk instead of SuperSU?
Can I use Xposed?
Will altering system in any way trip KNOX? Is there any way to delete system apps (instead of disabling)? Can I move a user app to a system app? (This is the primary reason I'm interested in Magisk, btw.)
As I said, I've done a lot of reading, but couldn't easily find definitive answers to these questions for this particular phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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In your reading, and posts/ IRL that have come after yours, have you come up with answers to these questions? I recently fell into one of these phones also on VZW, and am not used to locked everything/ bootloader.
You have discontinued roms that run on 6.0 but other then that there's no real difference in the 2 other then you can't hoo back to 6.0 once updated