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Hi,
so i'm looking for any information about Nexus 4, as i'm trying to get one, but i see in some posts that the camera sucks... I also check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553 and i would know if anyone could post a pic before/after the mod. Just to see what is the real pic quality.
Thanks !
A lot more noise compared to gf s3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005445&highlight=camera
Sucks is a pretty strong word. There are plenty of sample pics in the N4 forums so do a search or simply look through the threads in General.
There is a lot of noise in low light... but this is common with tiny sensors. In good light it is capable of very good photos, but saturation and sharpening are a bit laid back. As an experienced photographer I actually prefer this as opposed to other cameras that pump these up by default. Always easier to add then to subtract in post.
Compared to the best phoneCam out there (iPhone), the weakest link is the lens. It is exceptionally prone to flare, and resolution tends to fall off steeply in the corners and there is not alot you can do with these in post. All in all I think it is a pretty good camera for a phone, and if you know what you're doing you will get good shots.
I would just say it's mediocre. It's okay in good light but is worthless in low light conditions.
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Coming from a S3, I'm not disappointed.
Coming from a Galaxy Nexus the camera is great.
Coming from a N8, heavily disappointed.
Yah, terrible comparison, I know.
My s3 did have a better camera but I wouldn't say it sucks I still like it a lot and it gets the job done. The only thing I don't like is it keeps auto focusing even if I'm holding it still i prefer to just hold the center blue button to focus and take a picture
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its not as good as the gs2 either. there is a lot of noise, even in daylight. hdr is a must for low light pics. the imagine software in barebones android leaves a lot to be desired.
phermey said:
its not as good as the gs2 either. there is a lot of noise, even in daylight. hdr is a must for low light pics. the imagine software in barebones android leaves a lot to be desired.
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it really does, it creates alot of noise. i had an ipod touch 4g before this and that camera sucked so i thought this would be a huge upgrade, but it really not. i also bought an ipod touch 5g and the 5g's camera is better than the nexus
Jess813 said:
Coming from a S3, I'm not disappointed.
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Please!!!! Coming from a s3, I'm disappointed.
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Seems fine to me.
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Seems fine to me.
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that picture looks muted. all of the vibrancy of the bright sunny day is gone.
and when you click twice on it for 100% view... there is a slew of noise. the camera is decent from what people say. its the imagings software that leaves a lot to be desired. but... its a dev phone. so what else should we expect?
phermey said:
that picture looks muted. all of the vibrancy of the bright sunny day is gone.
and when you click twice on it for 100% view... there is a slew of noise. the camera is decent from what people say. its the imagings software that leaves a lot to be desired. but... its a dev phone. so what else should we expect?
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I do notice the noise in the sky, I just choose not to care. It's a phone, after all Also it was approaching sunset, wasn't very vibrant anymore to begin with. Sure as hell beats the camera on the Galaxy Nexus.
Is there any app available that can improve the picture quality?
nbell13 said:
Sure as hell beats the camera on the Galaxy Nexus.
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but it isnt as good as my gs2 with old tech
crownua6 said:
Is there any app available that can improve the picture quality?
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i am sure there are apps that will clean it up.
Coming from a htc sensation, same quality. 10% worse maybe. Panorama is rubbish compared to the sensation though.
my Nexus S with 5MP did a better job
Yep, camera isn't good,. Video too. Focus is dodgy on both and the microphones and sound quality on video is ****. The video and audio bit rate is way too low.
Very disappointed coming from a s2.
In fact once the s4 comes out I'm going straight back to Samsung .. Even if it means I don't get the latest android versions.
The n4 is slick but that's about it. Lets face it, it's heavy and quite thick, battery is crap, camera and sound quality is crap, the build quality is questionable.. Mine creaks above the volume and the buttons are loose, it's fragile has no SD card, has no removable battery.
Now the hype has gone its meh.
Alright, well here's the conditions to the best that I can remember.
Focus not locked. Didn't see an option for that in the Galaxy S4 menu. Galaxy S4 software based stabilization was not turned on. Anyone want a redo with it on? Hardware stabilization was on for the HTC One.
Also have the Optimus G Pro, Note 2, and iPhone 5 available for tests if requested.
Front facing camera vs rear. Thoughts?
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Software stabilization turned on for the GS4. Does anyone know if this actually use pan and zooming to stabilize the image? I'm guessing it does and there is no other way to combat shake.
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On my trip to Colorado I added a low light test. I was pretty drowsy. Just woke up from a rest stop nap!
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Tried to let the HTC One redeem itself in the audio department. No cases and subject (me) is in front of the camera. No bouncing the sound off of a windshield. It is definitely quiet than the S4, but turn up the volume and let me know what you think.
Seems like the s4 audio sounds better. The HTC one audio sounds echo-ey. As far as the video, they look similar in quality but the viewing angle is wider on the one. I think I prefer the zoomed in on the s4.
Man, I keep going back and forth on these two phones
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the s4 is a vibratorrrrrr
The HTC video is much sharper
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The One video seems more color accurate and the OIS really stands out when mounted in a car like this, and obviously has a wider FoV. But the S4 has much better audio recording quality (the One had some weird occasional popping going on too).
As far as front facing cameras, again the One has a wide FoV, but the color seems better on the S4's. Whether or not the One is color accurate on the front facing cam, the S4's just plain looks better.
Here's hoping HTC has a firmware update to address the audio quality coming, because if they fix that then the One takes this victory.
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The One video seems more color accurate and the OIS really stands out when mounted in a car like this, and obviously has a wider FoV. But the S4 has much better audio recording quality (the One had some weird occasional popping going on too).
As far as front facing cameras, again the One has a wide FoV, but the color seems better on the S4's. Whether or not the One is color accurate on the front facing cam, the S4's just plain looks better.
Here's hoping HTC has a firmware update to address the audio quality coming, because if they fix that then the One takes this victory.
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I'd say that is pretty much what I feel.
This is great. thanks for taking the time do do this.
HTC video looks rather cold.
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Added a test with software stabilization turned on for the GS4.
Piaband said:
Seems like the s4 audio sounds better. The HTC one audio sounds echo-ey. As far as the video, they look similar in quality but the viewing angle is wider on the one. I think I prefer the zoomed in on the s4.
Man, I keep going back and forth on these two phones
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If you do a youtube search for HTC One Concert you will find a lot of really great audio recordings by the HTC One. I don't know why it was inferior in the car but I've heard other recordings with the HTC One where the audio sounded great. My own recordings with this phone sound much better than this video.
Riggster said:
If you do a youtube search for HTC One Concert you will find a lot of really great audio recordings by the HTC One. I don't know why it was inferior in the car but I've heard other recordings with the HTC One where the audio sounded great. My own recordings with this phone sound much better than this video.
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In the comments on the video he says the holder it's in is blocking the rear mic. That's why the audio is bad on the ONE no way to fix a huge obstruction like a holder no matter how good the mic is.
I've done three tests. Do you think it's just the output levels? Seems pretty strange.
I didn't see any options and everything is being processed in the same fashion.
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Actually the holder had a very narrow grip. I was noting that if the audio was directed toward the lens it might sound better. Instead in these tests there is a big ole windshield.
I'll figure something out!
Any suggestions are welcome.
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The audio quality of the s4 whilst recording videos continues to suprise me ! Very impressive.
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The mic on the HTC one is on the back, right next to the camera. The sound from the HTC One is echo'ed because it is actually being bounced off the windshield.
The mic on the S4 is on the bottom near the charging port I believe.
Great comparison video. The S4 seems much sharper and has better color.
Can you please do one in low-light? (night time driving) Would love it.
Nice FR-S btw. Ignore the riceburner comments, they are kids who don't know jack about cars. The FR-S is a great great car.
superb comparison.. what car are you testing it in btw? looks like the seats of an 86.
EDIT: oh my bad - was originally watching without audio (at work).. just heard you mention you're in the FRS (Scion's version of the 86).. Buddy, that supercharged engine sounds AWESOME.
Zexell said:
The mic on the HTC one is on the back, right next to the camera. The sound from the HTC One is echo'ed because it is actually being bounced off the windshield.
The mic on the S4 is on the bottom near the charging port I believe.
Great comparison video. The S4 seems much sharper and has better color.
Can you please do one in low-light? (night time driving) Would love it.
Nice FR-S btw. Ignore the riceburner comments, they are kids who don't know jack about cars. The FR-S is a great great car.
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Thanks. I'm driving to Colorado in my wife's Audi (from Houston). Right before the sun comes up I'll mount the phones.
I also want to do a comparison at some point with a GoPro 3 Black Edition.
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superb comparison.. what car are you testing it in btw? looks like the seats of an 86.
EDIT: oh my bad - was originally watching without audio (at work).. just heard you mention you're in the FRS (Scion's version of the 86).. Buddy, that supercharged engine sounds AWESOME.
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I want your FR-S... Please? Pretty please?
And awesome comparison video btw!
The S4 is a great phone with great specs,if only samsung chose better materials and design they would have seduce me
I'd like to see how a Samsung phone made with metal would sell.
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On my trip to Colorado I added a low light test. I was pretty drowsy. Just woke up from a rest stop nap!
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Rippley05 said:
The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Do you have one? Or speculation? Just wondering
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He's been bashing the M8 all day. Camera is decent just not enough megapixels for his liking.
Tell me that the photos from Engadget are fake!
They look horrible
Ive seen a couple short hands on reviews that say the M8 pics are no better than the M7. The only thing the M8 has going for it in the camera department is speed and that new refocusing feature....which one reviewer said doesnt really work that well. Hmmm
They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Now they look good! I got scared at first, now here's the answer
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Frankie1588 said:
Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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Yeah, um, those Flickr photos look more than acceptable for me. I don't need the best camera if I'm getting the best screen, audio quality, and experience that the M8 will surely offer as the M7 did. The camera is literally secondary (or, well, further than that) than all of those areas and, even then, it's not really bad at all.
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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NO.
NOT ENOUGH MEGAPIXELS.
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In all seriousness, when it comes down to cutting costs on a smartphone design, camera would be the first thing on my list too. Would you rather it be made of cheap plastic, not have front facing speakers or have a smaller battery?
I'd take superior hardware/build over a great camera any day. I know we want it all, but it seems like we just can't have it all. At least not til the M9.
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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IMAG0065 that night time pic...looks really really really bad. but for the most part its not bad. Matter of fact all the night time ones are really bad towards the end .
In complete and utter seriousness guys (not being a fanboy either) I was MORE than pleased with the camera on the M7. That was my primary concern that I debated over for months before getting the M7 - giving up my iPhone 5 which took awesome pics was a difficult choice. Hands down, I'm more than excited to get back to Android (had to go back to my iPhone 5 due to selling my M7). The true wide angle 16:9 is so awesome and the pics were great. Overall, I felt like I was able to regularly capture more accurate color representations with the M7. Low light was pretty great too.
I will say, there were a few times where I was left wishing I could crop to a larger size and retain image quality. However, for me personally, it wasn't a big enough issue for me to ditch the phone, as I don't need to do that often enough. If you're someone who is perpetually cropping, this probably isn't going to work for you.
Also, I used to have an album of pics I took on my phone to show people when they'd play with it. I received soooo many compliments on the pics I took and more people saying "This phone has such an amazing camera" never knowing it was only 1/2 the MP's as their phones.
I understand and agree with the major drawbacks of it, however, as an overall quick shooter to the ability to take your time and change settings to get an optimal pic, it blew me away quite a few times. That's more than I could ever say about my iPhone.
Addition: there was a thread I saw with M7 vs. M8 photos and the colors looked quite a bit better and more crisp on the M8. I'm excited to see what I can do with it.
although the MP is disappointing, the strengths of the phone outweigh a blunder such as that I think. It's not like the camera is crap, it's just average for current times. We just had higher expectations as we should have especially compared to last year's. I would say the camera is "adequate"
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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I have the phone actually. Not just making assumptions and the camera isn't bad. The software is awesome.
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I want to see how the slow motion video is. I love that and use it all the time to record my son's sports.
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Thanks! Much better indeed. These are more than acceptable for my use.
The MKBHD first impression video of the camera shows off it's strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlt_2X8sPw
im not sure about anyone else but i really dont take many pics at night or in low light. so the camera is fine for me. i will have it on thursday so i'll find out how well it works for me soon
I can't stand the camera quality and am forced to sell. It's a great phone otherwise.
Try to get your hands on the updated version 5 moto camera app before giving up. There was some improvement for me. If you are a real shutterbug, then it might not be enough improvement in low light for you.
foxfire235 said:
I can't stand the camera quality and am forced to sell. It's a great phone otherwise.
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Camera quality is fantastic.
Focus needs some work but can be improved.
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Try to get your hands on the updated version 5 moto camera app before giving up. There was some improvement for me. If you are a real shutterbug, then it might not be enough improvement in low light for you.
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I'll give it a shot. Thanks
The turbos camera is terrible as are all Motorola cameras. I love moto though so I also have an iPhone 6 for special events. I'm not bashing the turbo and I love mine but there isn't an app or software update that will make this camera right. Its like this with every new moto that comes out and its amazing every time that they botch that camera.
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The turbos camera is terrible as are all Motorola cameras. I love moto though so I also have an iPhone 6 for special events. I'm not bashing the turbo and I love mine but there isn't an app or software update that will make this camera right. Its like this with every new moto that comes out and its amazing every time that they botch that camera.
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I agree that of the OEMS moto just doesn't do the best cameras. But, I think of the moto phones, the turbo is the best among them. It's definitely not the greatest camera. But not the worst either. I get some pretty good shots. Then I get some duds.
A better camera does a pretty good job of improving the turbos camera. Adjusting what type of focus it uses seems to help a lot
When i turn on my camera i really miss my earlier Xperia Z3.
Luhccas-X10 said:
When i turn on my camera i really miss my earlier Xperia Z3.
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Both have same.camera module. It is purely a software issue.
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Both have same.camera module. It is purely a software issue.
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Yes.
And is that software that i miss.
I see tons of threads on a ton of topics, everyone interested in fast charging, fast updates, fingerprints, Type C USB ports, but is anyone add excited as me to have some front facing stereo speakers?
After playing with an HTC One a few years ago I've wanted a phone with them so bad, but couldn't go back to HTC after the Rezound.
Imagine, no more cupping your hands around one side or the other to try to make the sound come to the front. Stereo sound instead of in mumbled mono mess out of one speaker.
Come on, somebody else has to be excited about this right!
Post any hands on's you can find about them talking about the stereo speaker quality or your personal experience with Front Facing Speakers on a phone.
I think a lot of us are coming from the Nexus 6, which also had front facing stereo speakers. After having them, there's no way I could go back to a rear facing speaker.
I have a Nexus 6 and a HTC M8 as backup.. IMO the Nexus 6, after switching to a custom ROM, delivers better sound..
If the Nexus 6p is the same or better, I'm more than happy..
Having just got my lg g3 I was so in love I skipped the Nexus 6. Lucky bastard. Lol
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I just hope the Nexus 6P does not have the normalizing audio problem that the Nexus 6 has... If so those nice front facing speakers won't mean squat.
After having a nexus 6 and a moto x pure(style 2015 - returned), I hope the same thing as the poster above. However, I will say that the issue with the pure is 100% a normalization and gain issue. In the pure you get this bad crackle at the end from the gain being set too high. I think this was done on motorola's side. Luckily with the dev on this phone I'm almost certain that defect will be non-existent or at lease fixable thanks to xda devs and others around the world.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't care.
I would actually prefer the speakers on the edge to leave the face clean and reduce the overall size.
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After having a nexus 6 and a moto x pure(style 2015 - returned), I hope the same thing as the poster above. However, I will say that the issue with the pure is 100% a normalization and gain issue. In the pure you get this bad crackle at the end from the gain being set too high. I think this was done on motorola's side. Luckily with the dev on this phone I'm almost certain that defect will be non-existent or at lease fixable thanks to xda devs and others around the world.
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I returned a X Pure as well but mine had 0 speaker issues. The front facing speakers were AMAZING! So amazing that I overlooked them after the first few hours and it just felt like that's how all phone speakers are to be configured LOL. It sounded so good that I hardly used my Galaxy Tab S and consumed most of my media on the X Pure because I didn't need to use headphones and they sounded so good just playing out, so I'm hoping the 6P at least equals this. This also makes your ringtones sound really good if you choose an MP3 but notifications can be quite loud if you don't configure their volume adequately.
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I think a lot of us are coming from the Nexus 6, which also had front facing stereo speakers. After having them, there's no way I could go back to a rear facing speaker.
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This! Was one of the big selling points to get the Nexus 6! I now could not be without them!!
I think they are nice but if I'm listening to something it's usually on my Bluetooth speaker regardless. So nice but it's not a big deal for me.
Least important feature on the phone. Nothing is more annoying than some schrute on the train watching something on his phone with his front facing speakers blasting. Nobody wants to listen to your stuff. I'll stick with headphones personally. Sound is light years better and I'm not annoying anyone.
Coming from an xperia with great stereo speaker, I hope i'll not be disappoint.
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Least important feature on the phone. Nothing is more annoying than some schrute on the train watching something on his phone with his front facing speakers blasting. Nobody wants to listen to your stuff. I'll stick with headphones personally. Sound is light years better and I'm not annoying anyone.
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Umm. Speak for yourself.... I enjoy sharing videos with friends and family at homes and nothing is more annoying than showing the same video multiple times individually because no one can hear
But I agree on the public transport part..... Headphones people
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I returned a X Pure as well but mine had 0 speaker issues. The front facing speakers were AMAZING! So amazing that I overlooked them after the first few hours and it just felt like that's how all phone speakers are to be configured LOL. It sounded so good that I hardly used my Galaxy Tab S and consumed most of my media on the X Pure because I didn't need to use headphones and they sounded so good just playing out, so I'm hoping the 6P at least equals this. This also makes your ringtones sound really good if you choose an MP3 but notifications can be quite loud if you don't configure their volume adequately.
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True! Mxp front speaker is best one so far in the market.but i returned too I pre order 64gb 6p because just $50 different I can get more power phone.
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Umm. Speak for yourself.... I enjoy sharing videos with friends and family at homes and nothing is more annoying than showing the same video multiple times individually because no one can hear
But I agree on the public transport part..... Headphones people
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Eh, If I want to show videos to friends at home I'll cast it to my TV. I don't need 4 people hovering over me. Thats my personal feeling though, and I was referencing the train. Blast em to your hearts content at home people!
After having the nexus 6, it's a feature I've stopped noticing. However, if I lost it it would be VERY apparent. I'm glad they kept it going.
I ordered the 5x thinking it had front facing stereo speakers.
Found it didn't - cancelled order - got the 6p.
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I think a lot of us are coming from the Nexus 6, which also had front facing stereo speakers. After having them, there's no way I could go back to a rear facing speaker.
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Exactly.
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After having the nexus 6, it's a feature I've stopped noticing. However, if I lost it it would be VERY apparent. I'm glad they kept it going.
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For sure. I'm using my crappy S4 in the meantime until the 6P gets here, and I can't stand having the speaker facing the back.
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For sure. I'm using my crappy S4 in the meantime until the 6P gets here, and I can't stand having the speaker facing the back.
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Then your going to Rock with the Nexus6 P!