i have a problem with saving money and since i don't usually have $740 in spending money in a paycheck, i bought $100 in gift cards the other day to "save" for this phone. the writing on the cards says it can be used for more than just apps, games, music, and movies. it mentions the Google Wallet app, so that's what i tried to use to redeem them. the section for gift cards is just a place to make a note of the gift card code. i called customer service and was informed that they do not allow gift cards to be used for device purchases. it does list a link on the back for full regulations, but the rest makes reading that seem unneeded. the store will not take them back even though they were not redeemed, so i am disputing the charges. i just wanted others to know in case they had the same idea. someone at Google should really send out stickers that tell people up front that they are not good for devices.
common sense really... just because it doesn't say you can/can't buy devices doesn't mean you can. Knowing Google if you push hard enough they might refund you and disable the gift card.
It does suck... next time if you're going to spend that much money on something do a little research and it will help you in the long run.
I work in retail and I can tell you no store will ever take gift cards back. We make absolutely no money on those purchases. We are just the middle man. It's always recommended to check the full limitations of the cards before purchasing them because stores can't return them.
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Wow that smacks, but it really sounds like a case of no research done, i mean really i don't think anyone uses gift cards except in small amounts and during holiday season for novelty gifts.
Also if you can't save money in your current account why did you not set up a direct debit to another account ?????
funkyboy1281 said:
I work in retail and I can tell you no store will ever take gift cards back. We make absolutely no money on those purchases. We are just the middle man. It's always recommended to check the full limitations of the cards before purchasing them because stores can't return them.
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The stores make a commission on the sale of the cards, so they do make money. I manage a store, I see it on my bottom line at the end of each period. But we still don't take returns on them, but that is more the gift cards rule than hours because there is no way to deactivate a card.
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The stores make a commission on the sale of the cards, so they do make money. I manage a store, I see it on my bottom line at the end of each period. But we still don't take returns on them, but that is more the gift cards rule than hours because there is no way to deactivate a card.
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Well it's nothing really huge on profits, at least for my job, but yea the returns are slim to none. I've done them on very rare occasions
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i would get into further contact with google regarding your issue, if you speak to a regular rep, request to speak with a manager. Obviously they want your money in one for or another. If you apply yourself you may be able to strike some sort of conclusion to your problem
I remember someone trying to do this before. Like you realized, it's a no go. Hopefully Google can do something for you, but at the end of the day, you might be be stuck with the gift cards. Maybe you can take a hit, and sell the gift cards for $90?
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For those saying do research, it's only because you already knew. I knew because I had read it before. I mean think about it. Who would think a store would limit what you could buy with a freak'n gift card? This isn't the OP's fault. It's a stupid rule and google should refund him.
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i have a problem with saving money
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maybe you should start trying to save money instead of blowing it on a phone? there are these really cool things called savings accounts, they let you transfer money into them so you can save money, and some even earn you a tiny bit back too.
i bought $100 in gift cards the other day to "save" for this phone
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why would you ever think that buying something is equal to saving? the two actions are complete opposites.
the store will not take them back even though they were not redeemed, so i am disputing the charges.
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gotta love fraudulently disputing charges because you made a mistake. sounds a lot like "the boy who cried wolf"
i just wanted others to know in case they had the same idea. someone at Google should really send out stickers that tell people up front that they are not good for devices.
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it's called "fine print", it details everything that you can and can't do with the card that they sell.
sorry for being an a-hole... but you brought this on yourself, and are now committing a fraud by disputing charges that you willingly made.
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For those saying do research, it's only because you already knew. I knew because I had read it before. I mean think about it. Who would think a store would limit what you could buy with a freak'n gift card? This isn't the OP's fault. It's a stupid rule and google should refund him.
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Exactly.. we know because we have read it.. something he should have done.
If you sign a contract for something then get f**ked over because you didnt read it all.. whose fault is that? Yours of course.
You can't have everything dished out on a plate for you in life.
Savings????
I know that Savings are important but if you get addicted to purchase something, it is not that easy to save money.....
Although Best of Luck with your savings.
https://play.google.com/about/card-terms.html
The terms aren't that long. And it's stated pretty clearly.
Chalk it up to a lesson learned and be glad it was only a hundred bucks and not a car, home or other large purchase.
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That's like buying an iTunes gift card and trying to buy an iphone with it.. Just seems common sense
Anyways.. Your fault for assuming with such a large amount of money
not to play devils advocate but Ive never understood the thought process behind not accepting gift cards as cash.
If you pay $100 to get a google play gift card.. google gets that $100. $100 is $100 regardless of how its paid so why would google say Hey we will take your $100 in cash/credit card/paypal etc which has credit card processing fees associated with it and not take gift card balances which were paid the same? they already have the money so what gives? Maybe I myself dont understand how gift cards work with Google and iTunes. Is there more to the actual money exchange and where it ends up then most people know about?
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just a couple thoughts on this...
maybe you should start trying to save money instead of blowing it on a phone? there are these really cool things called savings accounts, they let you transfer money into them so you can save money, and some even earn you a tiny bit back too.
why would you ever think that buying something is equal to saving? the two actions are complete opposites.
gotta love fraudulently disputing charges because you made a mistake. sounds a lot like "the boy who cried wolf"
it's called "fine print", it details everything that you can and can't do with the card that they sell.
sorry for being an a-hole... but you brought this on yourself, and are now committing a fraud by disputing charges that you willingly made.
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Give him a break, he wants to buy this phone out right. Is it the smartest thing in the world? No, but what ever we live in a capitalist society.
He made it quote clear that he want to save just enough to buy this phone. People save a set amount of money with full intention of spending it on a purchase they can't afford upfront.
I think you should be able to use these cards, but you can't so nothing you can do about it?
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There are a few options, t mobile prepaid, any prepaid debit card, savings...in the meantime I would sell these cards for cash and expect a loss....or go crazy google play store purchases lol
Very sorry that your purchase did not work.
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This is why the first rule of XDA is to search first.
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So ive fallen on some hard times, and im going to have to sell my evo to make rent next month. Its obviously used but in good condition otherwise. Included is all stock accessories, screen protectors (one applied), and the official leather hip case.
Ive listed the item on ebay and thought id give you xda'ers a heads up.
Item number: 120638581726
The money would sure help. Thanks for looking =)
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Sorry to hear about your situation
Same here, but I don't think selling your phone would be a solution to a problem you are in. Good luck and hope it turns better for ya.
Hey man don't know all about your financial situation but keep your head up there's light at the end of the tunnel. When you get back in your feet you will a better than evo phone
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O man Ebay? If someone wins your item the money is put on hold until they receive the phone or leave positive feedback (whatever comes first). The smarter thing was to place the phone on Craigslist. You also dodge the eBay seller fees.
Don't know when your rent is due but good luck.
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Be prayerful and I hope it sells for more than enough
Unless you used your rent money to buy the phone in the first place, Im not sure if I could sacrifice my phone for rent, Id rather just pay it late.
damn, never used ebay before? that sort of makes it a bit sketchy... CL may've been a better idea, but it sucks dealing with people in person too.
I'd rather get evicted than give up my EVO.
I really hope it works out because if rent is due the 1st of the month you may be SOL. I believe that when eBay bought Paypal the payment hold policy changed.
If you charged for shipping that will have to come out of your pocket. I always recommend the craigslist route because it's more of a cash in hand route. If you sold the item today for example and shipped it the funds get released 24 hours after they leave feedback. You can go to PayPal's website and manually upload the tracking info and then call them to see if they can do a courtesy funds release for you but who knows what they'll say. By the way I hope you have a Paypal Mastercard Debit (it's free) because if not you have to wait a few more days to transfer the money into your bank account.
Just be careful next time and allocate $20-$40 bucks a paycheck into a separate account for the just in case situations. If you are really in a bad situation and have a 401k you may be able to withdraw some money but you will get taxed heavily. I personally would never do it but if you really need the money it could be an option.
I'll buy it
Let me get some pics though
Man... i didnt realize it took so long to actually get paid. This sucks. And yeah ive never used ebay. Never had a reason to. Not sure what i should do =\
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Rocket, i can send out pics if you're still interested. Any way to get the money a bit quicker than the paypal route?
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Paypal is instant unless the person is paying with a credit card but if the person buying it has paypal it is instant payment.
I was just reading the finer details about it and it does say that they may hold the payment until positive feedback is issued from the buyer. It said they like to do that for new accounts, which i am =\
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eBay has some drawbacks, but you may get more for the phone.
With CL, you have to name the price you want, then hope somebody wants it for that price. Plus there's the "flake" factor. Waiting for them to come and they never do, etc.
I had a several year old HP wireless printer that I was un-able to GIVE away on CL earlier this year. Your EVO will definitely be more in demand however.
eBay is more of a, I don't need the money tomorrow kind of thing. However, you can go to their help section and read "Canceling an auction".
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I was just reading the finer details about it and it does say that they may hold the payment until positive feedback is issued from the buyer. It said they like to do that for new accounts, which i am =\
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I've had Paypal for about 5 years and the rules still apply. It's only instant if I were to send you $50 today because it doesn't involve a middle man such as eBay. I would just sell it on Craigslist and take the hit on negative feedback. It will mess up your feedback rating but you'll have the money faster.
If someone on XDA buys it and sends payment then it's instant but you still have to wait to take the money and transfer to your bank account.
I have a Paypal mastercard debit (free) so that if I get payment I withdraw with the debit card and deposit at a chase atm.
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I was just reading the finer details about it and it does say that they may hold the payment until positive feedback is issued from the buyer. It said they like to do that for new accounts, which i am =\
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As an ebay user for years, I can testify to the Paypal BS. I am a trusted user etc...all that good stuff. When I sell anything I still have to wait for positive feedback etc. It can get REALLY annoying. So basically I have to wait for the other party to leave feedback, even though I am trusted/100%/paypal power user/confirmed etc. It gets annoying when you just want to transfer ur money.
That being said, there is only 1 way to get your ebay reputation up....and that is to sell... I think I am still bounded by the delayed payment because I only sell things randomly...I am not a store
That's odd, when ever I sell I never have to wait for Payment. The funds are never held for me.
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That's odd, when ever I sell I never have to wait for Payment. The funds are never held for me.
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It is probably because I only sell things like 3 times a year max. When I asked them about it, it was more of a hassle than to find out why. Everything was eventually released etc, but still annoying to wait.
For my developer edition GSM, they still have not charged me, I have the phone right now, what?
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For my developer edition GSM, they still have not charged me, I have the phone right now, what?
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I would give them a call to let them know.
Pending your situation that being purchase or replacement. The problem could be shipping warehouse in Texas and customer call and order center outsourced in a foreign country. I sent a phone back that took five and 12 people to confirm they received it.
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Locklear308 said:
For my developer edition GSM, they still have not charged me, I have the phone right now, what?
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I wasn't charged until 3 weeks after i received my VZW Dev Edition.
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I wasn't charged until 3 weeks after i received my VZW Dev Edition.
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No wonder they bleed money!
Well if they are they need to hurry up. I don't like keeping large amounts in my checking lol
But if I got a free phone I guess that's pretty dope... Still feel bad though
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Well if they are they need to hurry up. I don't like keeping large amounts in my checking lol
But if I got a free phone I guess that's pretty dope... Still feel bad though
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If that was a debit transaction, the amount should be frozen.
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For my developer edition GSM, they still have not charged me, I have the phone right now, what?
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We ordered a DE GSM and a Motomaker GSM the same day. They charged us for the Motomaker within a couple days. Didn't get charged for the DE until 2+ weeks after I received it.
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We ordered a DE GSM and a Motomaker GSM the same day. They charged us for the Motomaker within a couple days. Didn't get charged for the DE until 2+ weeks after I received it.
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Credit card or debit card?
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Credit card or debit card?
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Visa debit card I think (from my bank, not a gift card)
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Visa debit card I think (from my bank, not a gift card)
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Mine was on a Credit Card
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Visa debit card I think (from my bank, not a gift card)
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wow so they don't freeze the amount before they ship?
You'll get charged, don't worry. I thought it was a glitch or something too when I bought mine, but depending on what type of card you used to buy your device, the lag between when you purchase it and when the money is withdrawn could be many days later (mine was on day 6). I don't know why, I just know that has been happening.
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You'll get charged, don't worry. I thought it was a glitch or something too when I bought mine, but depending on what type of card you used to buy your device, the lag between when you purchase it and when the money is withdrawn could be many days later (mine was on day 6). I don't know why, I just know that has been happening.
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I ordered on debit card on the 10th and got a "pending transaction" hold on funds on the 14th, that's the same day I received the phone. Then the next day the authorization totally disappeared from my debit card, the money on hold was released, and I haven't been charged yet. Free phone? I doubt it, but most pending authorizations are actually deducted within 24-48 hours. How long do they have to get their money? Hell, it's been 10 days.....
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I ordered on debit card on the 10th and got a "pending transaction" hold on funds on the 14th, that's the same day I received the phone. Then the next day the authorization totally disappeared from my debit card, the money on hold was released, and I haven't been charged yet. Free phone? I doubt it, but most pending authorizations are actually deducted within 24-48 hours. How long do they have to get their money? Hell, it's been 10 days.....
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I know I have said it before but I have to say it again - no wonder Motorola loses so much money. You can't run a business like this. Now that they have unfrozen the funds, they run the risk you will spend the available money in the account. Not everyone does a good job balancing their checking account.
They would have recourse against you if there weren't sufficient funds at the time they get around to trying to debiting them, but it would be costly trying to bill you and then turn you over to collections if you didn't pay.
I have never seen such a poorly run business like this before!
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I know I have said it before but I have to say it again - no wonder Motorola loses so much money. You can't run a business like this. Now that they have unfrozen the funds, they run the risk you will spend the available money in the account. Not everyone does a good job balancing their checking account.
They would have recourse against you if there weren't sufficient funds at the time they get around to trying to debiting them, but it would be costly trying to bill you and then turn you over to collections if you didn't pay.
I have never seen such a poorly run business like this before!
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Yea, I get what your saying. I was on slickdeals and saw that everyone was getting charged within 48 hours of ordering and thought that I may have gotten lucky and payment fell through the cracks. Until I asked on the forum and someone referred me to this thread. Seems that this is not a one off unique situation.
I have no false hope that the charge won't go through in the near future and that I'll get a free phone (I wouldn't complain though). However, just for sake of argument. How long does a company have to retrieve their money off of a debit card after you order something? I wouldn't think that they could just wait a year to deduct funds. I wonder how long a person would have to wait in the event that they wanted to close their checking account or change banks? There has to be some kind of time limit.......
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However, just for sake of argument. How long does a company have to retrieve their money off of a debit card after you order something? I wouldn't think that they could just wait a year to deduct funds. I wonder how long a person would have to wait in the event that they wanted to close their checking account or change banks? There has to be some kind of time limit.......
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I am sure there is no one-size-fits-all answer because I am sure the account agreement you agreed to when you activated your debit card varies from bank to bank and includes a choice of law provision in it. And there are federal laws that govern electronic funds transfers, too.
The best and probably only way to get the answer to that question without paying a lawyer to research your particular case is to call your bank and ask them.
But even if your bank refuses to process the debit after a certain period of time, Motorola would not be without recourse against you. They can have the IMEI of your device blacklisted and they can bill you for the phone even after they blacklist the IMEI. If you don't pay the bill, they can sell the debt to a collection agency and the collection agency can get a judgment against you and levy on your account. If you do pay the bill, they can unblacklist your device.
Now there are statute of limitations on debt collection (varies by state), but those are usually long, like on the order of 3-6 years, some states even 10 years!
SOLs for Debt Collection
I know in your mind you paid your debt for the phone when you authorized the debit card transaction, but until it is actually processed, you are in debt to Motorola for the price phone. And you can't just assume that you have no responsibility to keep the funds available for the debit. As I stated a couple of times now, you need to call Motorola and discuss this with them.
Now this is just crazy we are even discussing this because it is just crazy for Motorola to conduct business like this.
This happened to me when I bought 2 PS4's from Walmart.com I received the 2 consoles and didn't get charged at all. 2 weeks passed by and all my money was still in the bank. I think it was on the 16th day when they took the funds out. I was pretty confused, never bothered to ask why though.
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If the funds aren't there when they try to get them....they'll just blacklist your phone. Paperweight.
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If the funds aren't there when they try to get them....they'll just blacklist your phone. Paperweight.
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They can blacklist AND still try to collect on the debt. Just like if you cancel your line before your contract is up - the wireless carriers can blacklist your device AND try to collect the ETF.
Seems like an easy way to scam Google. Order the 6P, get the Google play credit, spend it, then return the 6P. Not that I plan to do this. I'm just curious, do they have any countermeasures to prevent people from doing this?
I'm certain if they wanted to charge you for it or take away your account credit they could. They have your credit card and Google Play code tied to your order as well. They could certainly and pretty easily track where the code was used and where to get money back from. Remember they have your money in their pocket already. They could simply refund you less $50 if they wanted.
I haven't tried it, but hear they will deduct the value from the return. Don't know if it's true, or if they invalidate the code if not used before returning.
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they are not stupid as you think they are
dumb ass question honestly.
2 posts on XDA and your trying to scam Google? Something doesn't add up!
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2 posts on XDA and your trying to scam Google? Something doesn't add up!
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heh, I changed names, I swear!
I'm not trying to scam anyone. I was just curious what their countermeasure would be.
I mean if they did deduct it from your refund, that would have to be specified in the terms, right?
Otherwise they are deducting for something you never even paid for.
This was a great idea, until you decided to post about it on the internet... @$$h0L3
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No you cheap.
I already have about $50 in Play Store Credit. I'll get another $100 from two Nexi purchases. I wish there was a way to convert that credit into Google Play Store Gift Cards so I can gift them. It's still a Google Play Store Gift card and goes straight to Google. I just don't understand why Google doesn't allow us to do something this simple and obvious. Anyone have any workarounds to make something like this possible?
I saw some suggestions on creating an App that takes in-app payments and using it. Seems convoluted and I'd lose 30%. But I guess I may just try that.
That is convoluted, but if you were going to not be able to use it at all in a year it would be better than losing it.
Edit: does it work to pay for Google Music? Maybe try that?
Because if they allowed you to exchange them for a physical gift card you can resell them to a number of sites that buy gift cards. Most if not all of them do not accept e-gift cards or cards that expire like the Nexus gift.
Ebay does not allow selling e-gift cards either (although plenty do). I'm not sure what happens if you get flagged on eBay selling an e-gift card.
To be honest I don't really know what the credit can be used for. I guess whatever crap that's on the play store like music and movies which I can probably get for free otherwise?
I'll likely just use it to support app developers and buy paid versions of their stuff.
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I'm pretty sure you are just emailed a code for the $50 when ordering the phones. So all you have to do is give that code to the person you want to gift it too and they redeem it
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I'm pretty sure you are just emailed a code for the $50 when ordering the phones. So all you have to do is give that code to the person you want to gift it too and they redeem it
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That's right. I already got the code for the 6P which will arrive tomorrow. The problem with the $50 code is that it's a lot for a single person. But if I could have split it into 2 $25 or the $100 into 5 $20, it would make a much easier gift to give to family and friends.
I already have paid apps for any apps that I use. I have a few in the wish list, but nothing really compelling. I'm never going to buy any of the ridiculously priced movies. I get most of my music from Amazon. But most of my music is really ripped from my CDs. Google doesn't have a particularly good India music collection.
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Because if they allowed you to exchange them for a physical gift card you can resell them to a number of sites that buy gift cards. Most if not all of them do not accept e-gift cards or cards that expire like the Nexus gift.
Ebay does not allow selling e-gift cards either (although plenty do). I'm not sure what happens if you get flagged on eBay selling an e-gift card.
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That's a good point. I hadn't considered that. Gift cards don't expire. These would. But I wish I could have at least split up the Play Credit. Oh well.
Hey all I didn't see a thread for this so wanted to make sure people saw it...
If you plan on selling your pixel device beware, it seems google is shutting down/deleting people's entire google account for reselling them.
This may only apply to Project Fi users... not sure.
Seems a little nuts. How apple of them....
https://consumerist.com/2016/11/17/...ounts-of-users-who-resell-their-pixel-phones/
EDIT - Seems it's only Project Fi users that shipped directly to the resell service, nevermind carry on they can burn in hell
Sorry, I'll go back under my rock for jumping to conclusions...
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Hey all I didn't see a thread for this so wanted to make sure people saw it...
If you plan on selling your pixel device beware, it seems google is shutting down/deleting people's entire google account for reselling them.
This may only apply to Project Fi users... not sure.
Seems a little nuts. How apple of them....
https://consumerist.com/2016/11/17/...ounts-of-users-who-resell-their-pixel-phones/
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Seems like they're going after people who are buying them and then just turning around and selling them for a profit, I don't have a problem with this at all.
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Seems like they're going after people who are buying them and then just turning around and selling them for a profit, I don't have a problem with this at all.
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Ah yeah if you dig past this article the linked article says they shipped them directly to the resell service... okay not as nasty as I was thinking then. My bad carry on, karma's a *****. :silly:
Did prject fi users get a special deal or something ? I normally wouldn't see an issue with people buying something that's in demand and resell it for a profit, i mean if someone wants to over pay for something cause they cant wait i don't see much issue in that. Unless there were some TOS when buying with project fi
This absolutely needs to be done. I wish they would go after re-sellers on eBay and other sites as well. Garbage people buying up units and bulk then reselling at price gouging prices is asinine.
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This absolutely needs to be done. I wish they would go after re-sellers on eBay and other sites as well. Garbage people buying up units and bulk then reselling at price gouging prices is asinine.
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While I 100% agree, if people would stop paying out the azz they would stop selling them.
If you read the article reported elsewhere, the people doing this were ordering through the website and evading sales tax. I highly doubt Google would shut down an individual that ordered it then sold it.
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If you read the article reported elsewhere, the people doing this were ordering through the website and evading sales tax. I highly doubt Google would shut down an individual that ordered it then sold it.
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I thought it was individuals who ordered then just decided to sell but it seems phones were ordered in bulk then being resold for a big markup on another site, at least thats what the one article i read was saying
As someone who has access to special inventory I can get them next business day but I didn't want to take advantage of it because I didn't think it was fair to other users. I'm glad to see that Google is taking action against those who are trying to profit from this behavior as I've never thought it was right to do so. Phones/Game Consoles/etc all frustrate me when I see people trying to sell them for profit because they have scripts, etc that have bled inventory dry.
I purchased a 128GB silver XL through my Fi account. Had it shipped to me, activated it, removed it from my account, reactivated my personal XL, then sold it on ebay for $1,250.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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I purchased a 128GB silver XL through my Fi account. Had it shipped to me, activated it, removed it from my account, reactivated my personal XL, then sold it on ebay for $1,250.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Without the players there is no game.
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Without the players there is no game.
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In the game of life, there will always be players.
Because something can be done does not mean it should be done. If you live your life by doing things you know are wrong because others do them.....you're a garbage person.
Sounds like it was a tax evasion scam.
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...accounts-involved-in-a-pixel-reseller-scheme/
Lol I would bet my savings that president elect trump,has an Address there to avoid paying taxes on online orders lol.