Anybody tried enabling ART on their Verizon N4 and if so, has it been stable? I know on the Verizon S5 it was causing crashes and reboots.
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Anybody tried enabling ART on their Verizon N4 and if so, has it been stable? I know on the Verizon S5 it was causing crashes and reboots.
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i would advise staying away from it until lollipop. You really wont be able to appreciate and use its full potential on kitkat anyway
i should maybe try since i havent activated mine yet
ive been using it for 5 hours now with no issue. it did heat up real good optimizing though
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Anybody tried enabling ART on their Verizon N4 and if so, has it been stable? I know on the Verizon S5 it was causing crashes and reboots.
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I have ART on my S5, and it's been running great. I had to remove couple of games, though.
maybe the more ambitious can try it and report back?
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I have ART on my S5, and it's been running great. I had to remove couple of games, though.
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Is that the Verizon S5? On mine it causes all sorts of problems.
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Is that the Verizon S5? On mine it causes all sorts of problems.
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Yes, it is VZW model.
The general consensus is to hold off on it until lollipop, but I will probably try it at some point anyway.
Trying it on mine now. Took quite sometime to optimize. So far, I've restarted 3 times and each time it has optimized like 60 apps..not sure how long I will stay with it
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Art is working fine for me. Haven't found any apps having a problem.
Is it really worth switching or just trying it out?
ART is running strong with no apparent issues.
I've been using it for 24 hours now and not one issue. Everything is smooth and no force closes
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ART is running strong with no apparent issues.
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Great to hear, giving it a whirl now.
Lots of peeps reporting keeps optimize apps on every reboot, I included. Had to go back to Dalvic.
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Lots of peeps reporting keeps optimize apps on every reboot, I included. Had to go back to Dalvic.
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Yeah, I ran into the same thing. The interesting thing is that on first reboot it had to optimize some 250 apps, I did a restart to see if it would do the same, this time it is optimizing again but only 87.
I almost never reboot my phone so I will try it out for a couple days, see if there is any battery gains or losses.
So far, I have seen no benefit. I do hate that most every time I restart the phone, it seems to optimize the same 25 files increasing the boot time. I have switched back to Dalvik for until specific and substantial advantages are verified and posted. If miliseconds reduction in UI response are the only benefit, I am not in that big of a hurry.
Hope this helps.
Only thing I noticed is that S health crashes now that ART is enabled. Which I normally wouldn't care about, except I'm one of the few that likes the heart rate feature. -___-
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Help, i've had my Note 3 just about a month now and ever since I've had it I get seriously bad lag when I'm updating apps from Play Store.
It's that bad that if I update all apps and there are 3/4 apps I have to wait until they are done otherwise the phone gets that laggy I can't do anything.
I haven't done a reset but I'm thinking I probably will need too, unless anyone else knows what it could be?
Thanks
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Happens to me, I don't really care for it because it only updates on WiFi. My phone gets stuttery when it installs the update more than when it is downloading. Also to note, it's recurrent on 4.3 and 4.4.2.
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Happens to me, I don't really care for it because it only updates on WiFi. My phone gets stuttery when it installs the update more than when it is downloading. Also to note, it's recurrent on 4.3 and 4.4.2.
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Well I'm slightly relived that it's just not me, but now I'm thinking doing a reset won't solve it. It's not a major issue but just shouldn't be doing it.
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Well I'm slightly relived that it's just not me, but now I'm thinking doing a reset won't solve it. It's not a major issue but just shouldn't be doing it.
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Doing a reset won't solve the issue, it's more that the system is focused on getting the install to be quickly and painlessly finished and causes other processes to slow down due to CPU demand changes. I'm running a custom ROM and kernel and still get these problems, and before I was on stock 4.3 so I can confirm it's not your hardware or personal configuration issue.
Also when your launcher lags, it's due to the fact that you're on the launcher but it has to do a live app removal from the drawer and then reinsertion of the app.
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Doing a reset won't solve the issue, it's more that the system is focused on getting the install to be quickly and painlessly finished and causes other processes to slow down due to CPU demand changes. I'm running a custom ROM and kernel and still get these problems, and before I was on stock 4.3 so I can confirm it's not your hardware or personal configuration issue.
Also when your launcher lags, it's due to the fact that you're on the launcher but it has to do a live app removal from the drawer and then reinsertion of the app.
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Thanks for that explanation, that does make sense now, however coming from previous phones (Sony Z1 and HTC One) these never had that issue and the Note 3 is more powerful, im a bit confused. So basically it's Samsung's software that's the cause?
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Thanks for that explanation, that does make sense now, however coming from previous phones (Sony Z1 and HTC One) these never had that issue and the Note 3 is more powerful, im a bit confused. So basically it's Samsung's software that's the cause?
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I believe it is something to do with TouchWiz. My other Samsung phones lag like crazy as well whilst installing apps.
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Lookout slowing down the phone too
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I believe it is something to do with TouchWiz. My other Samsung phones lag like crazy as well whilst installing apps.
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I noticed something on my TMob Note 3, I have Lookout security pre-installed and I see slight improvement if it is not scanning apps after every install and if it is disabled. Can someone check if you are seeing any improvements without Lookout Security or is it just my placebo?
Also, the Lookout backup upload slows both my phone and the internet. Any idea why that is happening? Is it uploading everything again and again or just the changes?
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I noticed something on my TMob Note 3, I have Lookout security pre-installed and I see slight improvement if it is not scanning apps after every install and if it is disabled. Can someone check if you are seeing any improvements without Lookout Security or is it just my placebo?
Also, the Lookout backup upload slows both my phone and the internet. Any idea why that is happening? Is it uploading everything again and again or just the changes?
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My other Samsung phones don't have anything installed and still lags.
However, I do have some security apps installed to check for viruses, but the thing is, it only checks after the app is installed, not during install, and the lag spikes in only during the install and not after.
I use Avast Mobile Security to scan my apps.
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I noticed something on my TMob Note 3, I have Lookout security pre-installed and I see slight improvement if it is not scanning apps after every install and if it is disabled. Can someone check if you are seeing any improvements without Lookout Security or is it just my placebo?
Also, the Lookout backup upload slows both my phone and the internet. Any idea why that is happening? Is it uploading everything again and again or just the changes?
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My other Samsung phones don't have anything installed and still lags.
However, I do have some security apps installed to check for viruses, but the thing is, it only checks after the app is installed, not during install, and the lag spikes in only during the install and not after.
I use Avast Mobile Security to scan my apps.
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I have no AV app on my phone, do not believe in them, so it's got to be TouchWiz.
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I have no AV app on my phone, do not believe in them, so it's got to be TouchWiz.
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Or it's the malware that's on your phone
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Or it's the malware that's on your phone
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Highly unlikely. As I said before, it happened on all of my Samsung devices, so it's got to be something to do with TW.
Happened on the Galaxy Note 1, 2, 2LTE, 3. Galaxy S2, S3.
Also happened to me on my legacy/low level devices such as Galaxy Y and W.
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Erm nope!
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Highly unlikely. As I said before, it happened on all of my Samsung devices, so it's got to be something to do with TW.
Happened on the Galaxy Note 1, 2, 2LTE, 3. Galaxy S2, S3.
Also happened to me on my legacy/low level devices such as Galaxy Y and W.
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Updated to KitKat this morning and it's still present but not as bad as it was.
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Updated to KitKat this morning and it's still present but not as bad as it was.
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KitKat is fast, but when you update like 10 apps at the same time and your internet is blazing fast, it just get's it's slow time
I never had this issue. I could use my phone with no stuttering when updating apps, even if it was apps big in size.
Though it was another story on my S3.
i have this problem too..
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KitKat is fast, but when you update like 10 apps at the same time and your internet is blazing fast, it just get's it's slow time
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Lol!
I've noticed it lags when trying to share a photo, yesterday I took a photo then went into Facebook selected share photo and then it took a fair few seconds to select the photo I wanted due to the lag! ?
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I never had this issue. I could use my phone with no stuttering when updating apps, even if it was apps big in size.
Though it was another story on my S3.
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Wow so you don't get any lag at all?
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i have this problem too..
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Annoying isn't it!
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Please Help me On this topic with Same problem....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51267652
As a TF700t owner I haven't noticed any lag from updating apps on the Note 3....but that's most likely because I'm used to a device that becomes entirely useless when updating apps (or doing anything in the background, really) because of an I/O issue...
Devices will always get a bit sluggish when updating apps, as they need to access multiple system and app files.
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Help, i've had my Note 3 just about a month now and ever since I've had it I get seriously bad lag when I'm updating apps from Play Store.
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Hello Maverick,
I own a note 2 and m on unroofed stock ROM 4.3.. However I am also facing the same issue from quite a time..I tried booting in safe mode, booting without the external SD card, cleaned cache from the recovery, regular cache and jink files cleaning from CleanMaster app, uninstalled antivirus app, stopped Power Saving mode but to no results.. It's driving me craazy!!
However I would like to bring one thing to your attention. The phone does not lag while downloading the app from play store but lags when the app is being actually updates ie. Installed to the device! I don't know if its the same case with you all..
M still hunting for a solution.. Donshare a solution here if anyone of u finds one
Thanks in Advance
Cheeta
ashhem said:
Hello Maverick,
I own a note 2 and m on unroofed stock ROM 4.3.. However I am also facing the same issue from quite a time..I tried booting in safe mode, booting without the external SD card, cleaned cache from the recovery, regular cache and jink files cleaning from CleanMaster app, uninstalled antivirus app, stopped Power Saving mode but to no results.. It's driving me craazy!!
However I would like to bring one thing to your attention. The phone does not lag while downloading the app from play store but lags when the app is being actually updates ie. Installed to the device! I don't know if its the same case with you all..
M still hunting for a solution.. Donshare a solution here if anyone of u finds one
Thanks in Advance
Cheeta
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Hi, yes that is mainly when I get the lag when it's installing the app, it's pretty annoying never had it before even when I had a Note 2 a year ago...Samsung need to fix this.
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Which runtime are you running? Have you noticed any difference?
I tried switching to ART, but every time I restarted my phone it would spend 15 minutes upgrading ~100 applications. I restarted it about 4 times, and it upgraded every time.
I typically avoid ART. It produces random issues on my G2, Nexus 5 and S4. Dalvik for me until Lollipop!
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Which runtime are you running? Have you noticed any difference?
I tried switching to ART, but every time I restarted my phone it would spend 15 minutes upgrading ~100 applications. I restarted it about 4 times, and it upgraded every time.
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You need to wait it out, it always takes awhile to update all of the applications when you initially change runtimes.
I'm on ART, no issues so far.
Maybe a dumb question, buy how do you switch?
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Maybe a dumb question, buy how do you switch?
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Go to About Phone in settings, then click on the Build number until the toast notification tells you that you are a developer. Then go back and click on Developer Options and then Runtime.
geoff5093 said:
Which runtime are you running? Have you noticed any difference?
I tried switching to ART, but every time I restarted my phone it would spend 15 minutes upgrading ~100 applications. I restarted it about 4 times, and it upgraded every time.
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im having same issue when using ART. it optimizes apps (15 of it) every time i reboot, ive rebooted at least 5 times, i think currently Turbo isnt very compatible with ART
Well ART on Kitkat is not even close to ART on Lollipop and ART on Kitkat is experimental so I don't know why people would be surprised when it doesn't work quite right...
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Well ART on Kitkat is not even close to ART on Lollipop and ART on Kitkat is experimental so I don't know why people would be surprised when it doesn't work quite right...
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I'm surprised 6 people have voted ART.
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Well ART on Kitkat is not even close to ART on Lollipop and ART on Kitkat is experimental so I don't know why people would be surprised when it doesn't work quite right...
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Well it worked flawlessly on Droid Maxx, and seemed faster than Dalvik. On Turbo it's always optimizing upon every reboot 15 apps. BTW has anyone else noticed weirdness about phone dialer? It takes several clicks and random presses on the screen to get the keypads to come up...
Did you guys have bench numbers for Dalvik vs. ART?
For me Dalvik seems to be slightly faster:
Dalvik: AnTuTu: 48989
ART: AnTuTu: 47467
Benchmarks do not accurately represent the increased responsiveness in the interface. Benchmarks generally are a pretty poor way to compare real world performance.
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Benchmarks do not accurately represent the increased responsiveness in the interface. Benchmarks generally are a pretty poor way to compare real world performance.
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We can argue ad infinitum, but benches are still better than a "gut feeling" or "I can see smooth"
Think what you want but ART runs the UI more smoothly regardless of what some "benchmark" says.
So does ART "optimize" on every boot? For some reason I didn't think it did, but when I switched to ART on my Turbo it seems every time I reboot it goes through the "optimizing apps".
I'm using ART just because we aren't rooted, so none of the good root-only apps that are incompatible with ART are an issue.
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So does ART "optimize" on every boot? For some reason I didn't think it did, but when I switched to ART on my Turbo it seems every time I reboot it goes through the "optimizing apps".
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Same here, that's why I switched back. Whenever it rebooted it optimized apps, and it took a good 10-20 minutes for it to finish. If it was on battery, the battery dropped significantly and the phone got very warm.
I ran both on my Razr Maxx HD, seems to get better battery life, and it seems a bit more responsive running Dalvik. That is just an uninformed opinion. I settled on Dalvik, it just feels nicer to me.
If you want to use ART I recommend doing the switch before you install anything from Google play not after when you have lots of apps installed.
Switched to ART just to see. First reboot optimized 255 apps (expected). Rebooted again, optimized 75 apps. Tried rebooting again and again optimized 75 apps. Anyone have any idea why? I'm thinking maybe it's because Verizon placed so many apps in system/app...
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Switched to ART just to see. First reboot optimized 255 apps (expected). Rebooted again, optimized 75 apps. Tried rebooting again and again optimized 75 apps. Anyone have any idea why? I'm thinking maybe it's because Verizon placed so many apps in system/app...
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Stop rebooting?
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I've noticed that every time I reboot my Turbo, the device always goes through App Optimization. This wouldn't be that big of an issue except that it takes like 10 minutes and I've never had this problem with my past devices.
I suspect that this has to do with the fact that I'm running ART. However, I did the same with my last device and it didn't do app Optimization every time I rebooted.
Anyone else seeing this same thing?
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As you said, an issue with ART.
adrynalyne said:
As you said, an issue with ART.
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Thank you for confirming this.
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cmchance said:
I've noticed that every time I reboot my Turbo, the device always goes through App Optimization. This wouldn't be that big of an issue except that it takes like 10 minutes and I've never had this problem with my past devices.
I suspect that this has to do with the fact that I'm running ART. However, I did the same with my last device and it didn't do app Optimization every time I rebooted.
Anyone else seeing this same thing?
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It shouldn't be doing it on every boot, that means it's wiping cache each time. It will do it if you install new apks but only for the ones you install. With art it does take very long, maybe try a FDR...
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It shouldn't be doing it on every boot, that means it's wiping cache each time. It will do it if you install new apks but only fo4 the ones you install. With dalai it does take very long, maybe try a FDR...
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No, its an ART issue. There is no fix aside from not using it or not rebooting.
This is a known issue that will likely be resolved with lollipop. At least I hope...
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This is a known issue that will likely be resolved with lollipop. At least I hope...
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If it doesn't get fixed...
Considering ART is the only option there, I could see a class action lawsuit.
ART is experimental on KitKat, all you have to do is run Dalvik and no problem.
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If it doesn't get fixed...
Considering ART is the only option there, I could see a class action lawsuit.
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Im not to worried about art not working on lollipop because i believe it will. I think the only issue I will have is to make sure all the apps that I used are optimized to run on art. I notice there are still quite a few that I still use that haven't yet.
Well I had lollipop on the nexus 6 and on the moto g. It's nothing special, kit kat is smoother and less bugs. The nexus 6 had a ton of problems. ART only reduces memory usage, other than that it's about the same as dalvik.
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Well I had lollipop on the nexus 6 and on the moto g. It's nothing special, kit kat is smoother and less bugs. The nexus 6 had a ton of problems. ART only reduces memory usage, other than that it's about the same as dalvik.
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Uh.....
Native app perfornance vs. JIT compiled apps.
Trust me, ART is worth it.
Nexus 6 performance sucks due to encryption, nothing else.
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Native app perfornance vs. JIT compiled apps.
Trust me, ART is worth it.
Nexus 6 performance sucks due to encryption, nothing else.
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Speaking from personal experience here. I disabled encryption and it was still laggy.
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Speaking from personal experience here. I disabled encryption and it was still laggy.
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So am I.
I have a Nexus 7 and performance increased substantially.
I also have friends that disagree with you re: the N6. To each their own of course.
Seems to me, that while some apps are not compatible at all with ART, some just need more help. Could these be the ones that need recompiling on each boot?
My Droid Maxx takes 30 sec to do the same 5 apps on each boot!
Has anyone noticed any performance issues running apps on their MXS/MXP?
I've found one particular Play-store app that performs very poorly on my device, compared to running on my wifes 2 year old LG G2.
The particular app I'm referring to is called 'Human to cat translator' (here). On my MXS it consistently takes 50 seconds(!) to get past the initial 'loading' screen before it's usable. On my wife's LG G2 it takes 3 seconds. (Once loaded, it's fine though.)
All criticism of my questionable taste in apps aside - does anyone know why this would be? Is anyone else willing to test the app and see if it's the same for you?
Tried it twice, took 25 seconds each time fwiw.
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Tried it twice, took 25 seconds each time fwiw.
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Thanks for trying it. Wonder why it takes so long on the MXS, when an old G2 loads up in 3 seconds?
Are you still on KitKat on the LG phones. If so maybe there is something the game does not like about lollipop. Just guessing.
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Are you still on KitKat on the LG phones. If so maybe there is something the game does not like about lollipop. Just guessing.
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Actually, yes - the G2 is still on KK. Wonder if that's relevant?
Going to try some other devices this week if I can (including a Nexus 5 on Android 5.11).
Dalvik vs ART?
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Dalvik vs ART?
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Well the MSX runs Lollipop which uses ART, so I would have expected it to be faster than the G2 (still on Dalvik) in that respect.
I bought the phone from Sprint and used it for Sprint; then now Cricket. Sprint has terrible service here; I roamed for days sometimes traveling for work. I would swear the phone freezes and lags more when you are in that funk area of having no service or poor service.
Most of my freezes are when I'm driving; that's most of my phone use anyway. I've used app killers and memory boosters, and I keep reading that those actually do more harm.
I have an iphone for work and it never freezes; and my best android experience was with a Huawei Honor 8; it had no freeze to speak of.
Is it the phones hardware, how it plays with apps, or does it just need more ram, or are there bad/buggy apps? It's not uncommon for me to use Waze, Uber Driver, Glympse, and an app that either plays audio, or sometimes video like DirecTV. It will almost always freeze.
I've done resets and restores. Wonder if a fresh reset and reinstall of apps would have any good effect?
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I bought the phone from Sprint and used it for Sprint; then now Cricket. Sprint has terrible service here; I roamed for days sometimes traveling for work. I would swear the phone freezes and lags more when you are in that funk area of having no service or poor service.
Most of my freezes are when I'm driving; that's most of my phone use anyway. I've used app killers and memory boosters, and I keep reading that those actually do more harm.
I have an iphone for work and it never freezes; and my best android experience was with a Huawei Honor 8; it had no freeze to speak of.
Is it the phones hardware, how it plays with apps, or does it just need more ram, or are there bad/buggy apps? It's not uncommon for me to use Waze, Uber Driver, Glympse, and an app that either plays audio, or sometimes video like DirecTV. It will almost always freeze.
I've done resets and restores. Wonder if a fresh reset and reinstall of apps would have any good effect?
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Do not use any app killers or memory booster. They do more harm then benefit.
If you are on Nougat, update to Oreo Beta 3. Or wait for a few days. Essential will be pushing 8.1 beta soon, hopefully within this week.
I use Waze everyday, and have never had freezes. I'm running OB3.
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Do not use any app killers or memory booster. They do more harm then benefit.
If you are on Nougat, update to Oreo Beta 3. Or wait for a few days. Essential will be pushing 8.1 beta soon, hopefully within this week.
I use Waze everyday, and have never had freezes. I'm running OB3.
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Thanks for the suggestions,it just seems like beta builds, for someone who uses the phone to make money (where you need 100 reliability), are not the best choice.
I'm not saying Waze is an issue, that's just one of several apps that o have open during the problem times. When I do use the ram boosters they typically indicate they are finding almost 1 gb to free up.
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Thanks for the suggestions,it just seems like beta builds, for someone who uses the phone to make money (where you need 100 reliability), are not the best choice.
I'm not saying Waze is an issue, that's just one of several apps that o have open during the problem times. When I do use the ram boosters they typically indicate they are finding almost 1 gb to free up.
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FREE RAM is wasted RAM. As per feedback here and in other forums, Oreo Beta builds have been much more reliable than Nougat builds.
I never ran Nougat, so can't compare unfortunately. But OB2 and OB3 has been rock solid for me.
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FREE RAM is wasted RAM. As per feedback here and in other forums, Oreo Beta builds have been much more reliable than Nougat builds.
I never ran Nougat, so can't compare unfortunately. But OB2 and OB3 has been rock solid for me.
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Hmm. Maybe I'll give it shot tonight. Can you go back to nougat if it doesn't do well. For that matter when will the production build of Oreo be out?
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Hmm. Maybe I'll give it shot tonight. Can you go back to nougat if it doesn't do well. For that matter when will the production build of Oreo be out?
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I would suggest you wait for a few days. Apparently Essential has fixed a lot of bugs in 8.1 beta. They did mention that the may release it within this week. If you don't feel comfortable on Beta, you can go back to Nougat, but you will loose your data.
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I would suggest you wait for a few days. Apparently Essential has fixed a lot of bugs in 8.1 beta. They did mention that the may release it within this week. If you don't feel comfortable on Beta, you can go back to Nougat, but you will loose your data.
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@cfclay - Today, in order to help combat sluggishness and choppy scrolling, I turned on Force GPU rendering in developer options. It's helped in my opinion. That's usually a setting developers use when testing, but since this is more or less a test build, I figured I'd give it a shot. I also changed my transition animation settings to .5x from 1x. While that won't help smoothness, if you're getting laggy experience it may help speed some things up a bit for you. May be worth a shot and may just give the perception things have improved, but overall I've been very pleased with the performance of the oreo beta 3 release.
@indian84 - where is everyone getting this information that oreo 8.1 beta may come out on friday (I've seen that mentioned in several places) or in the next few days. The only thing I can find is where Essential just said they were skipping 8.0 to jump straight to 8.1. Can you point me to where timeframes have been mentioned? Thanks in advance.
Hey, I sideloaded Essential Phone Oreo Beta 3 (OPM1.170911.254 and I have a dumb question- how can you tell it applied. There were no errors on the computer, but I think there may have been something on the phone that said installation aborted, just barely noticed before I chose to reboot.
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cfclay said:
Hey, I sideloaded Essential Phone Oreo Beta 3 (OPM1.170911.254 and I have a dumb question- how can you tell it applied. There were no errors on the computer, but I think there may have been something on the phone that said installation aborted, just barely noticed before I chose to reboot.
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@cfclay - Easy, go to settings, system, about phone, and look at the build number.
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@cfclay - Easy, go to settings, system, about phone, and look at the build number.
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I have NMK24B
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cfclay said:
I have NMK24B
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That's not Oreo.. You are still on Nougat..
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I have NMK24B
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Should have the build you were trying to flash if it was successful, like at the bottom of my screenshot.
So going back to your original issue. Sprint did cause the phone to lag and do weird things. That was a given. I was able to get out and use TMobile. the difference is night and day. I do want to point out that cricket caps it's lte speeds at 8mbits, this is from having cricket before and it would sometimes drop to 3 and 4 is more consistent. I'd check the snrs and the speed you're getting from cricket , in 2018 8mbit cap feels a little low
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So going back to your original issue. Sprint did cause the phone to lag and do weird things. That was a given. I was able to get out and use TMobile. the difference is night and day. I do want to point out that cricket caps it's lte speeds at 8mbits, this is from having cricket before and it would sometimes drop to 3 and 4 is more consistent. I'd check the snrs and the speed you're getting from cricket , in 2018 8mbit cap feels a little low
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I'm on the unlimited 2 plan and getting 3 Mbps lol. Still, works beautifully compared to Sprint. I do see your point though. This is my first month to try this service, and I've used about 10gb a week and it works just fine, so I'm sticking to it.
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Here's the error I get when trying to sideload the Beta Build 3. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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Here's the error I get when trying to sideload the Beta Build 3. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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You on January security patch.
Hence that error..
You have to wait for beta update..
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@cfclay - Today, in order to help combat sluggishness and choppy scrolling, I turned on Force GPU rendering in developer options. It's helped in my opinion. That's usually a setting developers use when testing, but since this is more or less a test build, I figured I'd give it a shot. I also changed my transition animation settings to .5x from 1x. While that won't help smoothness, if you're getting laggy experience it may help speed some things up a bit for you. May be worth a shot and may just give the perception things have improved, but overall I've been very pleased with the performance of the oreo beta 3 release.
@indian84 - where is everyone getting this information that oreo 8.1 beta may come out on friday (I've seen that mentioned in several places) or in the next few days. The only thing I can find is where Essential just said they were skipping 8.0 to jump straight to 8.1. Can you point me to where timeframes have been mentioned? Thanks in advance.
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Not to burst your bubble...
But effing with the GPU does not fix the issue... It's just your rose colored glasses...
Neither performance for the governor... Nor any setting in developer options will fix it...
Though if it works for you... Good...
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Not to burst your bubble...
But effing with the GPU does not fix the issue... It's just your rose colored glasses...
Neither performance for the governor... Nor any setting in developer options will fix it...
Though if it works for you... Good...
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Yeah, it hasn't fixed anything.
The lag and freezes has nothing to do with being on Sprint versus being on Cricket or any other carrier. I get the random freezes and lags too and it's really frustrating. The phone throttles and unthrottles itself at random times with no rhyme or reason. I'm all stock, not rooted, no beta software and the phone would stutter, lag, freeze while i'm doing something mundane. Also touchscreen issues at times.
I already have (had) my device setup the way i want, so not interested in starting all over just to try/test out beta software. I'll just wait for the official Oreo to drop.
Certain apps seem to really cause problems. I reset my phone and installed most of the apps again. When you connect carplay and use another GPS app like glympse, it can be a complete dumpster fire. Locked up on me twice today
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