ART vs Dalvik - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General

Which runtime are you running? Have you noticed any difference?
I tried switching to ART, but every time I restarted my phone it would spend 15 minutes upgrading ~100 applications. I restarted it about 4 times, and it upgraded every time.

I typically avoid ART. It produces random issues on my G2, Nexus 5 and S4. Dalvik for me until Lollipop!

geoff5093 said:
Which runtime are you running? Have you noticed any difference?
I tried switching to ART, but every time I restarted my phone it would spend 15 minutes upgrading ~100 applications. I restarted it about 4 times, and it upgraded every time.
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You need to wait it out, it always takes awhile to update all of the applications when you initially change runtimes.
I'm on ART, no issues so far.

Maybe a dumb question, buy how do you switch?
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disc.ordian said:
Maybe a dumb question, buy how do you switch?
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Go to About Phone in settings, then click on the Build number until the toast notification tells you that you are a developer. Then go back and click on Developer Options and then Runtime.

geoff5093 said:
Which runtime are you running? Have you noticed any difference?
I tried switching to ART, but every time I restarted my phone it would spend 15 minutes upgrading ~100 applications. I restarted it about 4 times, and it upgraded every time.
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im having same issue when using ART. it optimizes apps (15 of it) every time i reboot, ive rebooted at least 5 times, i think currently Turbo isnt very compatible with ART

Well ART on Kitkat is not even close to ART on Lollipop and ART on Kitkat is experimental so I don't know why people would be surprised when it doesn't work quite right...

theclash150 said:
Well ART on Kitkat is not even close to ART on Lollipop and ART on Kitkat is experimental so I don't know why people would be surprised when it doesn't work quite right...
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I'm surprised 6 people have voted ART.

theclash150 said:
Well ART on Kitkat is not even close to ART on Lollipop and ART on Kitkat is experimental so I don't know why people would be surprised when it doesn't work quite right...
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Well it worked flawlessly on Droid Maxx, and seemed faster than Dalvik. On Turbo it's always optimizing upon every reboot 15 apps. BTW has anyone else noticed weirdness about phone dialer? It takes several clicks and random presses on the screen to get the keypads to come up...

Did you guys have bench numbers for Dalvik vs. ART?
For me Dalvik seems to be slightly faster:
Dalvik: AnTuTu: 48989
ART: AnTuTu: 47467

Benchmarks do not accurately represent the increased responsiveness in the interface. Benchmarks generally are a pretty poor way to compare real world performance.

theclash150 said:
Benchmarks do not accurately represent the increased responsiveness in the interface. Benchmarks generally are a pretty poor way to compare real world performance.
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We can argue ad infinitum, but benches are still better than a "gut feeling" or "I can see smooth"

Think what you want but ART runs the UI more smoothly regardless of what some "benchmark" says.

So does ART "optimize" on every boot? For some reason I didn't think it did, but when I switched to ART on my Turbo it seems every time I reboot it goes through the "optimizing apps".

I'm using ART just because we aren't rooted, so none of the good root-only apps that are incompatible with ART are an issue.

hajabooja said:
So does ART "optimize" on every boot? For some reason I didn't think it did, but when I switched to ART on my Turbo it seems every time I reboot it goes through the "optimizing apps".
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Same here, that's why I switched back. Whenever it rebooted it optimized apps, and it took a good 10-20 minutes for it to finish. If it was on battery, the battery dropped significantly and the phone got very warm.

I ran both on my Razr Maxx HD, seems to get better battery life, and it seems a bit more responsive running Dalvik. That is just an uninformed opinion. I settled on Dalvik, it just feels nicer to me.

If you want to use ART I recommend doing the switch before you install anything from Google play not after when you have lots of apps installed.

Switched to ART just to see. First reboot optimized 255 apps (expected). Rebooted again, optimized 75 apps. Tried rebooting again and again optimized 75 apps. Anyone have any idea why? I'm thinking maybe it's because Verizon placed so many apps in system/app...

PerCompLLC said:
Switched to ART just to see. First reboot optimized 255 apps (expected). Rebooted again, optimized 75 apps. Tried rebooting again and again optimized 75 apps. Anyone have any idea why? I'm thinking maybe it's because Verizon placed so many apps in system/app...
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Stop rebooting?
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Art vs Dalvik?

What is Art? Is it risky to change to art in developer options?
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Orry520 said:
What is Art? Is it risky to change to art in developer options?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-runtime-compiler-in-android-4-4/
It's not risky, but you will have an eternal boot after rebooting, and the effect, nowadays is 0. Wait till future android releases, when ART will be improved.
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luiseteyo said:
It's not risky, but you will have an eternal boot after rebooting, and the effect, nowadays is 0. Wait till future android releases, when ART will be improved.
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I have a nexus 7 2013 and tried an alpja of android 4.4. Experimented with the ART option and my device did boot. Just had an awful lot of force closes. But the performanve difgerence on working apps is very impressive. I ran quadrant and my cpu score doubled
TEW999 said:
I have a nexus 7 2013 and tried an alpja of android 4.4. Experimented with the ART option and my device did boot. Just had an awful lot of force closes. But the performanve difgerence on working apps is very impressive. I ran quadrant and my cpu score doubled
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I don't know. I didn't experience a thing in my n4. I didn't do a benchmark but I am sure it didn't improve.. And yes, whatsapp fc
Next time i have a tinker with aosp 4.4 ill post a screenshot of dalvik vs art. See what people think. Hopefully ART will reolave dalvik completely in the next version of android
TEW999 said:
I ran quadrant and my cpu score doubled
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This is probably because the benchmark isn't working properly with the new VM. I sincerely doubt Dalvik is wasting 50% of the CPU's performance.
evilspoons said:
This is probably because the benchmark isn't working properly with the new VM. I sincerely doubt Dalvik is wasting 50% of the CPU's performance.
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i doubt that it wont, ipod touch does better then gnex on cpu things
evilspoons said:
This is probably because the benchmark isn't working properly with the new VM. I sincerely doubt Dalvik is wasting 50% of the CPU's performance.
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it does. when using the s4 dalvik during 4.3, nexus scores did nearly the same. and the scores using art or the s4 dalvik is nearly the same.
You might be interested in a video I just put together.
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You might be interested in a video I just put together.
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Good job on the hard work. I didn't notice load times, but I did notice a difference in the smoothness of scrolling. Homepage and others like Internet.
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At the moment I personally would not use ART over Dalvik, simply because even Google does not consider it ready for primetime yet.
I know, that normally doesn't mean much given the amount of tinkering we are doing with out phones, but on something this integral to the OS, I would wait until the original developers consider it stable, and once the app devs can have a crack at it.
For those who have tested, is it normal to have to build the cache/optimizing 60+ apps on each reboot? I'm assuming it's the Gapps that is being affected? Any work around discovered, so far?
sgtkwol said:
For those who have tested, is it normal to have to build the cache/optimizing 60+ apps on each reboot? I'm assuming it's the Gapps that is being affected? Any work around discovered, so far?
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normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.
simms22 said:
normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.
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Guess I'll wait for better stability (using a Gnex, but Google search for Dalvik vs ART brought me here) before I throw the switch. I don't mind random reboots for bleeding edge, but if they take 5 minutes, it sucks.
sgtkwol said:
Guess I'll wait for better stability (using a Gnex, but Google search for Dalvik vs ART brought me here) before I throw the switch. I don't mind random reboots for bleeding edge, but if they take 5 minutes, it sucks.
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i use a custom 4.3 kernel too.. so whatll hapoen is itll get to like app 80 then freeze. ill force reboot it and itll start over. sometimes itll take an hour before it actually finishes, lol. honestly, for now, dalvik is the better of the two. oh, and i miss my gnex, it got stolen 2 months ago
simms22 said:
normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.
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Guys, my N5 rebuilt the apps the first time I rebooted after activating ART. Since then, I have rebooted a couple of times and the apps have not rebuilt and the runtime is still ART.
Not sure why the behavior is different from phone to phone and it makes me wonder whether I should switch back to Dalvik.
Has anyone experienced any issue after reverting from ART to Dalvik?
Wolfy666 said:
Guys, my N5 rebuilt the apps the first time I rebooted after activating ART. Since then, I have rebooted a couple of times and the apps have not rebuilt and the runtime is still ART.
Not sure why the behavior is different from phone to phone and it makes me wonder whether I should switch back to Dalvik.
Has anyone experienced any issue after reverting from ART to Dalvik?
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no. i go back and forth frequently, no issues. from what i hear from n5 users, its the same, its not getting rebuilt every boot. but, these are n4's
simms22 said:
normal with ART. itll do that every reboot when using ART. no work around, its supposed to do that. besides youre lucky, i get 120 apps rebuilding their dalvik on every boot.
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Gnome's odexed version fixed this issue, only rebuild cache on first enable of ART. Not every reboot.
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steadly2004 said:
Gnome's odexed version fixed this issue, only rebuild cache on first enable of ART. Not every reboot.
There's also an updated pagapps that works for ART and divlak
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Gnome's odexed version fixed this issue, only rebuild cache on first enable of ART. Not every reboot.
There's also an update pagapps that works with dalvik and ART.
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deleted file in flash-all.bat option "-w" to save my apps and settings. A few hours later I decided to try switch to ART. But I got a bootloop. Can I via fastboot mode go back to dalvik?

Amazing battery life on ART

Swear to all gods, old and new: all I did was switch from Dalvik to ART and BAM! Instant improved battery life.
Try it for yourself. Won't hurt and you can always revert back efortlessly.
Cheers! :good:
Any other advantages/disadvantages of using ART rather than Dalvik noted? And what ROM are you on?
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bishteca said:
Swear to all gods, old and new: all I did was switch from Dalvik to ART and BAM! Instant improved battery life.
Try it for yourself. Won't hurt and you can always revert back efortlessly.
Cheers! :good:
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I am scared to switch it on 442 unrooted x.
Are you unlocked? Rooted?
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There are horror stories on x section.
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
ATRIXXIRTA said:
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
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ART is not compatible with Xposed.
rogeriorp said:
ART is not compatible with Xposed.
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ahhhhh..... gotcha.... so its either one or the other eh?
I think I will keep xposed just because I LOVE having a center clock, lol.
Thanks for that.
I knew that from when I had my Xperia ZL, but for some reason I was thinking it was device specific.
ATRIXXIRTA said:
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
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Can't used xposed with art. edit: late reply ninja'd already
So the horrors could be only due to Xposed & other mods? Art is safe on stock?
In past i tried both dalvik and art and, more or less, i hadthe same amazing battery time
c0mmando said:
Any other advantages/disadvantages of using ART rather than Dalvik noted? And what ROM are you on?
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Stock rom, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Dual sim, by the way, so not many roms out there (if any, I think...).
I read it somewhere that ART makes apps launch slightly slower, but I didn't really feel any difference in real life usage. Maybe we're talking about miliseconds here, totally unnoticeable, mainly with skype and facebook apps, which normally take a few seconds to launch anyway. The rest are as snappy as can be.
ATRIXXIRTA said:
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
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Yep, it's because of Xposed. If you can't live without its improvements (which are great, no doubt), you can't have ART.
I had Gravity Box, but turned out the only function I used was the quick access to tiles (you know, pull drawer on right half of screen). I get by without it.
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So the horrors could be only due to Xposed & other mods? Art is safe on stock?
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I can't say for Moto X, but for my Moto G the change was seamless. Except for the improved battery life, the rest feels pretty much the same. Of course, it all depends on how much you use your phone. I'm usually a light user, usually on wifi, just getting email push, some messaging, a few calls, but yesterday I did some pretty heavy 3G, screen on for a long time, localization services and it appeared to have behaved quite better than on Dalvik.
But be aware that once you change, the phone asks for a reboot and it can take quite a while to do so. You might even get a black screen for a while and when it shows something like "Updating apps 10/150" it can hang on a number for a while, it may appear to freeze but be patient, go to he kitchen, play with your pet. And be sure to have like 30-50% battery life, I have no idea what can happen if the battery runs out in the middle of the process. Probably nothing, but just in case, right?
bishteca said:
Stock rom, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Dual sim, by the way, so not many roms out there (if any, I think...).
I read it somewhere that ART makes apps launch slightly slower, but I didn't really feel any difference in real life usage. Maybe we're talking about miliseconds here, totally unnoticeable, mainly with skype and facebook apps, which normally take a few seconds to launch anyway. The rest are as snappy as can be.
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Every device I've ever switched to ART has always benchmarked lower than when on dalvik. Not that it matters. I just find it odd
bishteca said:
Stock rom, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Dual sim, by the way, so not many roms out there (if any, I think...).
I read it somewhere that ART makes apps launch slightly slower, but I didn't really feel any difference in real life usage. Maybe we're talking about miliseconds here, totally unnoticeable, mainly with skype and facebook apps, which normally take a few seconds to launch anyway. The rest are as snappy as can be.
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I was gettingI worse battery life today for some reason. thought something was wrong after I installed xposed. Turns out I'm just a forgetful dumbass and forgot I had enabled GPS and location settings to test it's impact on battery... Lol
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I'm using art from the very first day, and I have exceptional battery life with everything turned on except Bluetooth (not using it at the moment) - about 24 hours
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'Camera unabled to start'
I get this message when on Dalvik, but never when on ART. Also, on Dalvik my play store crashes and so does: com.android.system.ui
Fed up it, so switching to ART again, but this causes my phone to heat up loads.
Thoughts, should I factory reset?
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I get this message when on Dalvik, but never when on ART. Also, on Dalvik my play store crashes and so does: com.android.system.ui
Fed up it, so switching to ART again, but this causes my phone to heat up loads.
Thoughts, should I factory reset?
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I would. I don't have any issues on dalvik. And when I was using art (before I installed xposed), there wasn't anything I could do to heat this phone up. I've had 2 devices with the snapdragon s4 pro chip (optimus g, xperia zl) and that chip could cook your breakfast!!! This snapdragon 400 has impressed the pants off me so far!
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Really?
ATRIXXIRTA said:
I would. I don't have any issues on dalvik. And when I was using art (before I installed xposed), there wasn't anything I could do to heat this phone up. I've had 2 devices with the snapdragon s4 pro chip (optimus g, xperia zl) and that chip could cook your breakfast!!! This snapdragon 400 has impressed the pants off me so far!
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Forgive me for being a total noob here , but would the processor heat cause the battery to heat up?
Does your battery heat up? After 45 minutes of gaming Asphalt 8, mine cooks up to a massive 52.5 degrees celsius- I have a leather case on it so i don't notice it that much but when I took it out it was so hot!
BTW I'm non rooted, stock rom etc...
Do you have root and have you underclocked it?
Any intense 3d gaming will heat up just about any device. There is no room for cooling these CPUs inside these phones, so they are prone to heat increases when pushed hard. I haven't played any intense 3d games on this yet. I just know that it doesn't heat up anything like my s4 pro devices used to.
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sohambapat99 said:
Forgive me for being a total noob here , but would the processor heat cause the battery to heat up?
Does your battery heat up? After 45 minutes of gaming Asphalt 8, mine cooks up to a massive 52.5 degrees celsius- I have a leather case on it so i don't notice it that much but when I took it out it was so hot!
BTW I'm non rooted, stock rom etc...
Do you have root and have you underclocked it?
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And of course a leather case works as isolation, try not using the case, temp might drop some degrees then
Is it not risky ?

Note 4 and ART

Anybody tried enabling ART on their Verizon N4 and if so, has it been stable? I know on the Verizon S5 it was causing crashes and reboots.
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TheMavic said:
Anybody tried enabling ART on their Verizon N4 and if so, has it been stable? I know on the Verizon S5 it was causing crashes and reboots.
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i would advise staying away from it until lollipop. You really wont be able to appreciate and use its full potential on kitkat anyway
i should maybe try since i havent activated mine yet
ive been using it for 5 hours now with no issue. it did heat up real good optimizing though
TheMavic said:
Anybody tried enabling ART on their Verizon N4 and if so, has it been stable? I know on the Verizon S5 it was causing crashes and reboots.
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I have ART on my S5, and it's been running great. I had to remove couple of games, though.
maybe the more ambitious can try it and report back?
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I have ART on my S5, and it's been running great. I had to remove couple of games, though.
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Is that the Verizon S5? On mine it causes all sorts of problems.
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Is that the Verizon S5? On mine it causes all sorts of problems.
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Yes, it is VZW model.
The general consensus is to hold off on it until lollipop, but I will probably try it at some point anyway.
Trying it on mine now. Took quite sometime to optimize. So far, I've restarted 3 times and each time it has optimized like 60 apps..not sure how long I will stay with it
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Art is working fine for me. Haven't found any apps having a problem.
Is it really worth switching or just trying it out?
ART is running strong with no apparent issues.
I've been using it for 24 hours now and not one issue. Everything is smooth and no force closes
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Arie McD said:
ART is running strong with no apparent issues.
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Great to hear, giving it a whirl now.
Lots of peeps reporting keeps optimize apps on every reboot, I included. Had to go back to Dalvic.
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Lots of peeps reporting keeps optimize apps on every reboot, I included. Had to go back to Dalvic.
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Yeah, I ran into the same thing. The interesting thing is that on first reboot it had to optimize some 250 apps, I did a restart to see if it would do the same, this time it is optimizing again but only 87.
I almost never reboot my phone so I will try it out for a couple days, see if there is any battery gains or losses.
So far, I have seen no benefit. I do hate that most every time I restart the phone, it seems to optimize the same 25 files increasing the boot time. I have switched back to Dalvik for until specific and substantial advantages are verified and posted. If miliseconds reduction in UI response are the only benefit, I am not in that big of a hurry.
Hope this helps.
Only thing I noticed is that S health crashes now that ART is enabled. Which I normally wouldn't care about, except I'm one of the few that likes the heart rate feature. -___-

App Optimization Issue

I've noticed that every time I reboot my Turbo, the device always goes through App Optimization. This wouldn't be that big of an issue except that it takes like 10 minutes and I've never had this problem with my past devices.
I suspect that this has to do with the fact that I'm running ART. However, I did the same with my last device and it didn't do app Optimization every time I rebooted.
Anyone else seeing this same thing?
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As you said, an issue with ART.
adrynalyne said:
As you said, an issue with ART.
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Thank you for confirming this.
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cmchance said:
I've noticed that every time I reboot my Turbo, the device always goes through App Optimization. This wouldn't be that big of an issue except that it takes like 10 minutes and I've never had this problem with my past devices.
I suspect that this has to do with the fact that I'm running ART. However, I did the same with my last device and it didn't do app Optimization every time I rebooted.
Anyone else seeing this same thing?
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It shouldn't be doing it on every boot, that means it's wiping cache each time. It will do it if you install new apks but only for the ones you install. With art it does take very long, maybe try a FDR...
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It shouldn't be doing it on every boot, that means it's wiping cache each time. It will do it if you install new apks but only fo4 the ones you install. With dalai it does take very long, maybe try a FDR...
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No, its an ART issue. There is no fix aside from not using it or not rebooting.
This is a known issue that will likely be resolved with lollipop. At least I hope...
PerCompLLC said:
This is a known issue that will likely be resolved with lollipop. At least I hope...
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If it doesn't get fixed...
Considering ART is the only option there, I could see a class action lawsuit.
ART is experimental on KitKat, all you have to do is run Dalvik and no problem.
adrynalyne said:
If it doesn't get fixed...
Considering ART is the only option there, I could see a class action lawsuit.
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Im not to worried about art not working on lollipop because i believe it will. I think the only issue I will have is to make sure all the apps that I used are optimized to run on art. I notice there are still quite a few that I still use that haven't yet.
Well I had lollipop on the nexus 6 and on the moto g. It's nothing special, kit kat is smoother and less bugs. The nexus 6 had a ton of problems. ART only reduces memory usage, other than that it's about the same as dalvik.
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Well I had lollipop on the nexus 6 and on the moto g. It's nothing special, kit kat is smoother and less bugs. The nexus 6 had a ton of problems. ART only reduces memory usage, other than that it's about the same as dalvik.
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Uh.....
Native app perfornance vs. JIT compiled apps.
Trust me, ART is worth it.
Nexus 6 performance sucks due to encryption, nothing else.
adrynalyne said:
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Native app perfornance vs. JIT compiled apps.
Trust me, ART is worth it.
Nexus 6 performance sucks due to encryption, nothing else.
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Speaking from personal experience here. I disabled encryption and it was still laggy.
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Speaking from personal experience here. I disabled encryption and it was still laggy.
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So am I.
I have a Nexus 7 and performance increased substantially.
I also have friends that disagree with you re: the N6. To each their own of course.
Seems to me, that while some apps are not compatible at all with ART, some just need more help. Could these be the ones that need recompiling on each boot?
My Droid Maxx takes 30 sec to do the same 5 apps on each boot!

[MotoMaxx] Lollipop Soak Test Impressions

Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
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Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
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Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
Any camera improvements?
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poncespr said:
Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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specific app problems should be addressed by their respective creator, its the app fault to not be ready for lollipop
fsiddique said:
Any camera improvements?
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yes i've seen focus improvements
also the low speaker volume seems fixed on ringtone speaker as well in-call speaker.
I get like 2 or 3 freezes a day, phone becomes totally unresponsive for 10 seconds or so.
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All devices than get lollipop is better have factory reset for good perfomance
Am i having one of them, whatchamacallit, placebo effect, or has the bluetooth streaming quality improved.?
I think my music sounds better.
Any one else?
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Bluetooth music streaming seems to drop or pause for a second every few minutes
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Turning bluetooth off and then back on seems to have solved the issue so far.
it take it 4% in one night in stanby
battery seems the same to me.
have some lags and some freezing too for 30 seconds -1 minute
hope Moto will solve this problems
Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
For those with the freezing/stuttering/lag issues, did you perform a factory data reset prior to installing the OTA?
poncespr said:
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
Jaocagomez said:
Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
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I did a factory data reset after installing. That took care mostly of the lag, but i keep having bluetooth issues.
Sometimes streaming music pauses on my Bluetooth music speaker, and it drops the connection on my stereo
headset. Things that do not happen with my older phones.
In all fairness, it could be because of the hybrid Brazil/Puerto Rico thing, but honestly, I don't think so as I was already having
Bluetooth issues before. Plus, everything else is working great. Signal is rock solid and I get LTE with no problems at all.
May have a defective phone.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
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Yes. I actually did not miss custom roms on kitkat with gravity box.
I hope they iron out the kinks soon!
Which version did they push? 5.0,.01, or .02?
.02
good so far
I haven't found any bug. I see volumen calls, screen brigthness, battery life improvement.
Everything runs smooth. Now i see the diference between my droid maxx and this.
47hrs.
some bugs i've noticed so far:
Sometimes when connected on a wifi network, disconnects and reconnects again, this didnt happen on kitkat, happens randomly
When listening to google play music and then receive a notification the music doesn't resume again, you have to click pause and play to resume to playing the song.
My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
If you upgraded and having performance issue with stuttering and lags, I highly recommend performing a factory reset. I did mine through recovery and wiped Data & Cache.
That made a massive difference.
I have an wifi issue, it's not turning on at all. On 4.4 it's working fine, even on BR firmware (my phone is PR). Is Anybody met this?
prking07 said:
My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
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When you say "flashed every file" do you mean just the system image files in the OP of the lollipop install thread or do you literally mean every file (I.e. bootloader, radio, etc)? I've been wanting to go this route of converting my PR Maxx to Brazilian retail 100% as well by flashing all the files.
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