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Developers please pay a little more attention towards the xperia pro. I've been owning it since end October an am a bit disappointed. Six months have passed and still not much custom ROMs for it. I see a lot of development going on for other new devices like the Xperia S but why not pro. Till now only three custom ROMs are available wbich is very less as compares even to the low end and legacy devices like htc chacha.
This is a humble request from all the pro owners.
PS: pro needs its own section
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I think your "PS" is more relevant than the main body of your post.
Developers are people like you and me who invest their own spare time into modding their devices. It is not up to you to demand that others make ROMs for the community, rather that WE form the community.
There are a few good Xperia Pro custom ROMs and mods about, but the problem is that they are very scattered, and the complete lack of organisation here and contradictory advice of where to discuss Xperia Pro (with randon willy-nilly thread closures), along with the intransigent attitude of some admins towards even considering the two minutes work required to create an Xperia Pro sub-section simply stunts any growth in the community.
The Xperia Pro has a significant market niche of being the only respectable GLOBAL QWERTY slider to have been released in the last year, and indeed on the market at the present time. Many people simply do not realise howw important a good QWERTY device is to some of us, and have probably not used one either to understand how superior many of us might feel that QWERTY devices are. There is no point in a 20-core 8 GB RAM phone with 7" screen if the text input is gimped (inaccurate and taking up your whole screen), and the device no longer fits in your pocket! The Xperia Pro gets this right and for those who have used it understand why it completely wallops other devices that might look better on paper.
Truely a good statement! You just took all the words in my mind!
I was trying to port MiUI to pro but my notebook fell into the swimming pool and the HDD wont work anymore. I need some time to collect money to buy another and start developing.
I need every pro owner get inspired by others and to try something.
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Cant the moderator create a sub forum for xperia pro development like ray,live with walkman n etc.?
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Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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I think the main problem is that pro was focused towards businessmen and such peoplr. Developers generally dont fancy hw QWERTY
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I don't think so... If you go to maemo forums you'll see a userbase on which 3/4 are developers and 1/4 are regular users and all of those developers stick to that forum for 2 reasons. 1 All phones/tablets have HW Keyboard & 2 OS is linux. Sad that nokia decided to ditch those and go with windows phones. On which the main reason why I switched android.
Anyone who's interested to do something check this out. I'll start developing one I get a new notebook.
http://www.freeyourandroid.com/guide/porting-android
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Riyal said:
Well 1st and main reason probably they didn't put one is because of lack of development support? This is XDA Developers this forum was meant to be a forum for developers so I guess unless there's not much developers on a specific device then no sub forum for us.
And 2nd is we don't have that much userbase I guess it's not worth the kilobytes for each member here if there would only be a handful of threads on a subforum.
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No, the main problem is ignorance of the admins towards how unique and great this phone is. Jjust look at the manner in which devices which the admins fall for the hype for such as the Samsung GSIII receive forums before they even exist or are known about. If the American admin were living in Europe where we have a QWERTY drought then they would have understood that many of us were eagerly waiting for months before the Xperia Pro release and would have created a forum without thought. "Dual core" etc. matters not one iota to many of us if it doesn't have proper QWERTY input.
It is a chicken-and-egg situation. I believe the developers are there in the community, merely that XDA (now regrettably the main place for SE development) is so disorganised that it makes it difficult to communicate.
It would be two minutes work to create a development sub-section in Neo, and actually less work for moderators to deal with the scattered Xperia Pro discussions as we have at present.
Frankly, I wish all Sony Ericsson users would get together, abandon XDA altogether, and return to websites like Esato, sense, TopSony as they did in the old days. At least then all devices would be appreciated and understood by those in charge.
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Weigh in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095923&page=11
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533272
to see what we are dealing with.
paul5425 said:
No, the main problem is ignorance of the admins towards how unique and great this phone is. Jjust look at the manner in which devices which the admins fall for the hype for such as the Samsung GSIII receive forums before they even exist or are known about. If the American admin were living in Europe where we have a QWERTY drought then they would have understood that many of us were eagerly waiting for months before the Xperia Pro release and would have created a forum without thought. "Dual core" etc. matters not one iota to many of us if it doesn't have proper QWERTY input.
It is a chicken-and-egg situation. I believe the developers are there in the community, merely that XDA (now regrettably the main place for SE development) is so disorganised that it makes it difficult to communicate.
It would be two minutes work to create a development sub-section in Neo, and actually less work for moderators to deal with the scattered Xperia Pro discussions as we have at present.
Frankly, I wish all Sony Ericsson users would get together, abandon XDA altogether, and return to websites like Esato, sense, TopSony as they did in the old days. At least then all devices would be appreciated and understood by those in charge.
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Weigh in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095923&page=11
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533272
to see what we are dealing with.
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Man this **** is not gonna help us. What we need to do is flood any one of the sections with xperia pro things like mods, ROMs, questions general discussions etc.
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Xperia pro is the best smartphone in its class. There's nothing compared to xperia pro when it comes to a physical keyboard.
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Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Flo95 said:
Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Everyone doesn't care just about 100Ghz processor with thousands of cores. Many people care about the usability of the device. Typing anything on a hardware keyboard is far less easy than on a touchscreen
I own a X10i, pro, xperia s and htc tytn ii. I use pro most of the time due to its usability.
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king-iyokan said:
Man this **** is not gonna help us. What we need to do is flood any one of the sections with xperia pro things like mods, ROMs, questions general discussions etc.
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I agree that we should indeed do that, and am working on some mods too in my spare time...
(after all, it has already been accepted to allow Xperia Pro to be discussed, merely not exactly agreed properly WHERE.) All we are requesting is a little cleanup with a small single forum under Xperia Pro (or perhaps more pragmatically here under Arc given the volume of stuff already here).
Flo95 said:
Pro didn't get advertised, that's why no one has it and no devs support it and now it's way too late to change that.
No one/dev will get a 1GHz single core device these days
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Rather bold words there completely out of line with the 470+ votes and available ROMs!
Some of us don't require advertising to make informed decisions. Nor do we think that it is work spending €100 more for a device with less features (cough! Arc cough! Perhaps this thread would have been better posted over to the Neo section where there seem to be less of these perceptions)
Show us some loveeeeeeee!
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Will Neo V Roms works with Pro?....ATM all hardware are same a part from PRO'S keyboard...
@king-iyokan
account is disabled.. i also think that pro users should get there seperate forum..
and he should be the leader because he has a developer spirit..,:
paul5425 said:
I agree that we should indeed do that, and am working on some mods too in my spare time...
(after all, it has already been accepted to allow Xperia Pro to be discussed, merely not exactly agreed properly WHERE.) All we are requesting is a little cleanup with a small single forum under Xperia Pro (or perhaps more pragmatically here under Arc given the volume of stuff already here).
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ifu said:
Will Neo V Roms works with Pro?....ATM all hardware are same a part from PRO'S keyboard...
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An interesting question. I think Neo V has different partition layouts, but I would have thought Arc and Neo ROMs could be made to work (though have read they will brick your device), except with some of the keyboard configuration left out. I think we should be pushing for an initiative to port Neo and Arc ROMs to Pro, or for example develop some sort of patch which would automate the process.
Welcome to Xperia Z OFF TOPIC Thread!
You are able to say anything and discuss anything as long as it does not violate XDA RULES
The thread was made to keep the section clean of off topic threads and have fun!
Let's start!
Hey all, what are you all doing? Excited about Xperia Z?
Yes very preordered and scanning the web for news
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So my current device now is the wildfire buzz from htc ... I was going to sell it but after installing (cm9) on it I had second thoughts (thanks to xda-developers )
any way that's not my question ... my question is ( I want to get another mobile and I want it to be one of a kind so I was thinking to get the new iPhone 5 and I was very convinced .. until I saw that magnificent device the Xperia Z and now I'm puzzled .. what should I do ... go with this magnificent android device or try the IOS device that have a lot of people using it right now and saying that it will last for a long time with no problems)
So the bottom line is ... what's your professional opinion about this problem???
sorry for the long replay :fingers-crossed:
AW: [OFF-TOPIC] Let's Have Some FUN!!! | ALL Off-Topics Only HERE!
hunt7000 said:
I want to get another mobile and I want it to be one of a kind so I was thinking to get the new iPhone 5 and I was very convinced .. until I saw that magnificent device the Xperia Z and now I'm puzzled .. what should I do ... go with this magnificent android device or try the IOS device that have a lot of people using it right now and saying that it will last for a long time with no problems:fingers-crossed:
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Well the Xperia Z and The iPhone 5 are very different in many ways but the biggest is clearly the OS... Android vs iOS. Well in my opinion Android is the better one but that is my opinion... Everyone has its own taste in smartphones so go to the next shop and test some of the newest android devices and then the iPhone 5, watch some comparison videos, read some articles about it, etc.
On the hardware side there are some big differences aswell:
Snapdragon S4 Pro Quad-Core chip for the Xperia Z and Apples A6 Dual-Core Chip for the iPhone
1Gb Ram iPhone vs 2Gb Xperia Z
4" Retina Display with 326ppi on the iPhone vs 5" Full HD 420ppi Xperia Z
Both are pretty awesome devices... So either way you go, you can't go wrong
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hunt7000 said:
So my current device now is the wildfire buzz from htc ... I was going to sell it but after installing (cm9) on it I had second thoughts (thanks to xda-developers )
any way that's not my question ... my question is ( I want to get another mobile and I want it to be one of a kind so I was thinking to get the new iPhone 5 and I was very convinced .. until I saw that magnificent device the Xperia Z and now I'm puzzled .. what should I do ... go with this magnificent android device or try the IOS device that have a lot of people using it right now and saying that it will last for a long time with no problems)
So the bottom line is ... what's your professional opinion about this problem???
sorry for the long replay :fingers-crossed:
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In my opinion, iPhone was the best in like 2 years ago. After I do root, ul boot loader, install ROMs and port ROMs etc... I will never leave my android... it is up to you whether to choose what but I suggest Xperia Z.
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It is a great idea of making an Off Topic thread so Moderaters does not need to delete again and again... And will keep the forum clean .
Hello everyone,
the moderating team assigned to your forum has decided to no longer allow any offtopic threads whether those were previously sanctioned by moderators or not.
We have come to this decision due to the fact that those threads offer absolutely nothing to the device specific forum or to development in general.
After all the name of the site is xda-developers.
If you feel the urge to engage in any offtopic discussion, the offtopic forum is always at your disposal.
As such, this thread is now closed.
Please understand that this decision was made only to streamline the forums and to enhance the user experience.
Thanks for your understanding and cooperation,
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Hello
I'm thinking of moving to htc one coming from an s3. I need your input regarding this, I'm tired of Samsung lags and plastic feeling of the phone. .they are all the same plastic....s3 s4 note 3..all plastic.. doesn't have the premium feel it is suppose to..
Anyone that come from an s2 or s3 or s4 to Htc one can give me his input regarding how sense5.0 is, how does the phone works, the screen, the battery its not removable (I don't like this deal)
Please give me some advises. ..you dont have multi windows on htc one, right?
Any help or advice is appreciated
Thnaks
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Mate to be honest, i have couple of friends that moved from S4 to ONE, just by looking at me and my ONE... It is the best phone at the time, and you have always a AOSP build that will have (soon i hope) the split window capability.. The rest is flawless
In my opinion, the HTC One is the hottest piece of mobile hardware in the world right now. It just won the mobile award of the year. The developer support for the One is tremendous. The XDA devs love it. That's more than enough to make any sensible person turn from any other device. I mean, like seriously, most of the XDA devs use it as their daily driver and/or primary development device. Just have a look at the main portal and you'll see that most articles feature the One.
However, the best answer is to figure it out yourself. Just go to youtube and watch some reviews. Search "htc one vs s3" and "htc one vs s4" and "htc one vs anything". Watch these reviews from a couple of different uploaders, so you'll get a broader point of view.
Hi,
We don't allow device comparison/suggestion threads as there are plenty of threads for such discussions in the General forums.
Please direct your question to the device suggestion thread or just search for the answers to your questions.
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Who do you think is faster? Will it hold type the LG G2 with its Snapdragon 800?
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Greetings and thanks!
I appreciate the comparison video but just going to let you know that soon a mod will rain on your parade as device comparison isn't allowed in device specific fora. I personally think such comparisons should be OK in the general section but the staff is the staff.
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We do allow device comparisons ... in the official thread only. Device comparisons usually bring out the fanboys and flaming which is why it's only allowed there.
Thank you for your understanding.
coal686
Please create a new forum for the z3v. It's a different phone. It has a different camera. It has different hardware. It has different issues. We have one thread right now that must include everything. It's a tad difficult to sort things out.
Someone opened a photo sharing thread for teh z3v, and you closed it because "there's already a photo sharing thread". Understood, but that thread is for a different camera on a different phone.
Thank you.
David Troup
I agree as well. I have already posted this in the official device forum request thread but of course it's buried and ignored with a ton of other requests there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56223999#post56223999
I concur. We need our own forum.
It would be nice as it is a different phone.
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Camera is different, so picture comparison shouldn't be together.
Screen didn't have the battery saving refresh feature, so battery life can't be compared to regular z3
Dimensions are different so cases are different.
Either create a new device thread, or let us open separate threads under the z3
Agreed!!
I agree
New device page is needed.
Is there any development at all for the Z3v? Pretty sure they make forums based on popularity of devices and an actual device community, a locked bootloader Z3/Z3v wouldn't really get much development...
Text message duplicates. Yall still having that problem, or have u fixed the issue.
Yep, I'm not here to read about the regular Z3.
Elysian893 said:
Is there any development at all for the Z3v? Pretty sure they make forums based on popularity of devices and an actual device community, a locked bootloader Z3/Z3v wouldn't really get much development...
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The note 4 has international forum + one per carrier in the us and it's the all the same hardware. No root for the Verizon phone note 4 yet as far as I know.
They have forums for a lot of other new phones that don't have any development or root yet. Amazon fire 6/7 doesn't get lumped with other fire tablets because they don't have development yet. Droid turbo is in a separate thread, although it has droid in the name. If you go to the main forum page and look at the specs shown at the top, it's not matching the z3v. As a matter of fact, doesn't seem that the same boot loader rooting methods that work on z3 would work on z3v.
If after all this we don't get a new forum, at least let us have separate threads. As mentioned before camera is different, can't compare pictures with other z3 phones. Screen is different, needs different white balance thread. Screen doesn't have power saving feature like the z3, need a separate battery life thread. Body is different, no strap hike to that potentially leaks, can't use any of the cases for the z3.
Mountainfisher said:
Text message duplicates. Yall still having that problem, or have u fixed the issue.
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So far a reboot has helped
Mountainfisher said:
Text message duplicates. Yall still having that problem, or have u fixed the issue.
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I don't have the phone yet, but i have seen this issue popping up. Folks are saying that you need to disable all but one of the messaging apps. I believe there are two that are running on the stock set up. Then a reboot couldn't hurt
tsachi said:
The note 4 has international forum + one per carrier in the us and it's the all the same hardware. No root for the Verizon phone note 4 yet as far as I know.
They have forums for a lot of other new phones that don't have any development or root yet. Amazon fire 6/7 doesn't get lumped with other fire tablets because they don't have development yet. Droid turbo is in a separate thread, although it has droid in the name. If you go to the main forum page and look at the specs shown at the top, it's not matching the z3v. As a matter of fact, doesn't seem that the same boot loader rooting methods that work on z3 would work on z3v.
If after all this we don't get a new forum, at least let us have separate threads. As mentioned before camera is different, can't compare pictures with other z3 phones. Screen is different, needs different white balance thread. Screen doesn't have power saving feature like the z3, need a separate battery life thread. Body is different, no strap hike to that potentially leaks, can't use any of the cases for the z3.
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The Note 4 is also a LOT more popular than a variant of the Z3 locked to one carrier. The Z1s never got its own forum. If a thread is for the Z3V then start the title with [Z3V], that's about all you can do.
Elysian893 said:
The Note 4 is also a LOT more popular than a variant of the Z3 locked to one carrier. The Z1s never got its own forum. If a thread is for the Z3V then start the title with [Z3V], that's about all you can do.
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That's our complaint. We had a thread for pictures for the z3v and it got closed because there's a general z3 picture forum.
Post in the Z2 forum!
jonshipman said:
Post in the Z2 forum!
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We could post in the Z2 forum sure. But I enjoy reading about the pink spots and lack of wireless Charging on the Z3 so much I think I'll stick around. Now I am just joking, can't we all just get along.
Mountainfisher said:
We could post in the Z2 forum sure. But I enjoy reading about the pink spots and lack of wireless Charging on the Z3 so much I think I'll stick around. Now I am just joking, can't we all just get along.
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Let's not forget about the lack of a luxurious use of a wrist strap which defeats the one of the biggest selling point of the Z3, functionality of its waterproof structure. XP
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GigaSPX said:
Let's not forget about the lack of a luxurious use of a wrist strap which defeats the one of the biggest selling point of the Z3, functionality of its waterproof structure. XP
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Lol seriously, after seeing that I am actually glad that Verizon went with the more tried and true Z2 body. :good:
Every thread title should start with Z3v.
Z3v Battery Life
Z3v Camera
Z3v Cases
Z3v Post your pics
Z3v Reviews
Z3v Lollipop
Z3v Voice and Data
Z3v Issue with....
There's enough confusion around this phone already, we need to make it as simple as we can for folks.