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I bought a HD2 off of ebay, and just got it today. I was so happy to get this one after the other broke.
But this one is seriously weird! It's got a resistive touchscreen, the buttons are smaller & compact, and the batter compartment is completely different.
I thought this might be a prototype version, but the back metal section seems like the genuine thing, except its black. Even the packaging looks genuine, except the buttons show up a bit smaller.
Anyone have any clue where this came from?
Pics: http://img703.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=img20110712112331.jpg
Are you sure it is not a Chinese clone? What does the bootloader say when starting up?
No bootloader comes up, when trying to access spl display (the tri-colour thing), it shows up calibrating, and if I press the vol-up key instead of the down, it shows up as "Downloading".
The packaging is resoundingly similar to the real thing, except that it shows the button layout of this fake phone.
I also forgot to mention that this one does not even have a home button.
Found another guy who seems to have gotten the same one as me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978588
and, don't buy this or anything that looks like this on ebay:
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...585-quadband-win6-5-GPS-WIFI-wholesalers.html
you sir, have just bought a chinese clone!
Yh, and I was so looking forward to my second HD2 and sticking android on it again. =|
I'd have pity for you if the clone would of at least had 5 buttons on the front......
it's clearly missing the "home" button, the biggest dead give away I've seen to date. Considering you've already owned a real HD2 before hand one would think you'd catch that right off the bat.
Unless of course you were presented with "real" HD2 shots under the ebay listing..... in which case i would just call him out as a fraud and file a complaint.
The youtube video from the thread you listed was quite compelling... looked pretty real in the video, outer appearance anyway, it had 5 buttons....
Yh, I feel pretty stupid, but the screenshot was too reflective to make out all of the buttons properly, and seeing how the seller had 100% feedback, and put all of the details from the real thing, I couldn't make it out as being a fake.
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Yh, I feel pretty stupid, but the screenshot was too reflective to make out all of the buttons properly, and seeing how the seller had 100% feedback, and put all of the details from the real thing, I couldn't make it out as being a fake.
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lodge a complaint....
Yes and the sim/sd card positions are totaly different to the EU version
Looks good for the price, if you did not know any better and were happy with win mo
Even worse it states in the specs as well as in the system info picture that it only has 256M internal memory!!!!! And to top it off the brand in the spec sheet says it is a "HHH"
That really sucks, hopefully you can return it and get your money back.
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Yes and the sim/sd card positions are totaly different to the EU version
Looks good for the price, if you did not know any better and were happy with win mo
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I hate winmo! No offence to those that like it, but I just hate it, and I bought it from ebay - it cost the same as 2nd hand HD2's cost nowadays.
I've contacted the seller, and am awaiting reply before taking applying for dispute.
This phone is basically a TG01, but without any alpha android roms for it.
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I hate winmo! No offence to those that like it, but I just hate it, and I bought it from ebay - it cost the same as 2nd hand HD2's cost nowadays.
I've contacted the seller, and am awaiting reply before taking applying for dispute.
This phone is basically a TG01, but without any alpha android roms for it.
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yeah dude I'd rather have a Hero than what you have now, get your $$ back and get a REAL hd2
orangekid said:
yeah dude I'd rather have a Hero than what you have now, get your $$ back and get a REAL hd2
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Guy isn't replying... might have to file dispute.
So... I don't really want to go into the details of the thing... long story short my college roommate karate kicked my tablet down a flight of stairs (not even a cracked screen!) Acer support is... meager, at best, and the warranty doesn't cover anything hardware related.
The only part of the tablet that is really broken is the top left corner of it; where the power button resides. It's partially cracked open, and the rear-facing camera is really blurry now, condensation/cracked/not really sure. So my question is, does anyone know where I can buy parts for the tablet? As in... possibly the whole shell and the rear camera? I've looked but maybe just not hard enough.
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So... I don't really want to go into the details of the thing... long story short my college roommate karate kicked my tablet down a flight of stairs (not even a cracked screen!) Acer support is... meager, at best, and the warranty doesn't cover anything hardware related.
The only part of the tablet that is really broken is the top left corner of it; where the power button resides. It's partially cracked open, and the rear-facing camera is really blurry now, condensation/cracked/not really sure. So my question is, does anyone know where I can buy parts for the tablet? As in... possibly the whole shell and the rear camera? I've looked but maybe just not hard enough.
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Nice roommate. Shoulda K-Kicked his arse, or steal his girl.
Sent you a pm with a link to the illustrated parts breakdown with part numbers. Also, you might find parts on e-bay.
Moscow Desire said:
Nice roommate. Shoulda K-Kicked his arse, or steal his girl.
Sent you a pm with a link to the illustrated parts breakdown with part numbers. Also, you might find parts on e-bay.
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Awesome thank you, so far no luck but I'm sure eventually someone will be selling the parts. And yeah I shoulda, but **** happens And yes I asked Acer about spare parts... They seemed incredulous to the thought of an end user prying open their tablet. Something to the extent of "voids warranty" and "pay us money to replace the $10 part." Gah. Uh well, now I'm content with building my own green UI now.
Moscow Desire said:
Nice roommate. Shoulda K-Kicked his arse, or steal his girl.
Sent you a pm with a link to the illustrated parts breakdown with part numbers. Also, you might find parts on e-bay.
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Hi! I have had almost exactly the same "accident". My 1 year daughter is responsible for that...
I'd really appreciate that link.
Thank you!!
noches_rose said:
Hi! I have had almost exactly the same "accident". My 1 year daughter is responsible for that...
I'd really appreciate that link.
Thank you!!
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Haha, yeah bad things happen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15326127&postcount=8
There's the link, sorry it's taken so long. It only has the part numbers, and as far as finding a vendor for those parts, it's almost impossible. Plenty of front cameras on e-bay, but no rear cameras that I've found. Let me know if you have any luck.
Warning!! I just came across this at work when my co-worker asked me to set up his phone. I realized something was wrong when I saw the screen and size of this note 4. I decided to show it off for those who is considering picking up one from ebay or Craigslist. See the comparison from a real note 4 and see for yourself. There's no real difference w/ the software but the hardware might be a concern since the battery(charger) is not Original it might blow-up or melt. The fake one is really flaky and has weird random vibration and I would not recommend using it at ALL!!
As far as I can tell, that's an N910F, which is the Note 4 for most of Europe (and I believe is Exynos based) so it's not fake, just not US market.
You're are correct one the version. It's a custom rom from the international version. But...see attachment of the cpu spec from cpu z. Also, did you see the back panel w the battery? The fake have obvious over paint...
jaytee84 said:
You're are correct one the version. It's a custom rom from the international version. But...see attachment of the cpu spec from cpu z. Also, did you see the back panel w the battery? The fake have obvious over paint...
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I saw that, but it's possible for someone to paint a device. That doesn't mean it's fake.
Now the CPU showing up as a Mediatek is suspect, but still not conclusive I don't think as software can be wrong. Regardless, the buyer didn't get what they thought they were getting.
Yea, more and more fakes are popping up. I just remember watching this video where he bought a fake. There will always be a good counterfeit and an even better one.
Testing Wacom digitizer is probably one of better tests. Knocks off using much cheaper digitizer and button on pen doesnt work.
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I see these kinds of fakes at work all the time, and they're getting better & better. That MOLY baseband gives it away every time though.
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Yea, more and more fakes are popping up. I just remember watching this video where he bought a fake. There will always be a good counterfeit and an even better one.
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Yeah, this phone had the Chinese letter in recovery as the vid you posted. The S-Pen is a total fake...haha. Under the battery there's no sticker at all.
That is definantly a fake i came across a couple of them.people were trying to passoff asreal note 4s
What type of world do we survive in where people are so evil and selfish they try and pass of fake devices as real devices this is ad homien /s
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Just for curiosity i wonder how it performs. Maybe some people here would be happier with this device, if it gets ? first ?
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What type of world do we survive in where people are so evil and selfish they try and pass of fake devices as real devices this is ad homien /s
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Tell me about it...I was suspicious right away compared to my co-worker who didn't even have a clue of how it was "fake" he asked me how I know and I showed him these photo. It's sad people take advantage of other who isn't knowledge of these stuff.
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Just for curiosity i wonder how it performs. Maybe some people here would be happier with this device, if it gets first
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IT'S UTTER CRAP!!! The response time is slow...definitely not as a real note 4. The screen is flaky and you need to press hard or couple of time to get any response from the LCD. Also, I noticed it heated up when I put in the charger. Wouldn't trust this crap charging on my night stand.
bipoler said:
What type of world do we survive in where people are so evil and selfish they try and pass of fake devices as real devices this is ad homien /s
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Unfortunately it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. People are awful and they'll do anything for a buck, including preying on people's innocence.
We still sell these at my work whenever we get them in, but we put it in big bold letters in the auction- this is a clone, not a real Samsung phone- just so people know exactly what they're buying.
I came across one too. The S-Pen, the thin battery, the light/low-volt charger was a quick way for me to notice some thing was not right.
On the OP picture of the back, you can also tell the heart rate sensor looks different.
Pedro2NR said:
I came across one too. The S-Pen, the thin battery, the light/low-volt charger was a quick way for me to notice some thing was not right.
On the OP picture of the back, you can also tell the heart rate sensor looks different.
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That's correct! The S-Pen was such a dead give away....can't believe it haha
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We still sell these at my work whenever we get them in, but we put it in big bold letters in the auction- this is a clone, not a real Samsung phone- just so people know exactly what they're buying.
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I'm sure many of these are sold on the run. Like off the street and craigslist. They'll run away with your money.
Someone tried this on my girlfriend. I ended up beating the shiit out of him than i threw the note in a puddle. Lol got me so heated.
Wow, that's crazy. That's not a clone, that's a counterfeit! ?
And I'd say 99% of people (buyers) would never know it was not authentic!
You would have to be phone savvy to realize it wasn't genuine. ??
To me the biggest giveaway for fake Galaxy phones is always the screen.
Amoled screens are always dark looking when the phone is turned off. If the screen isn't dark (almost pitch black) when turned off 9/10 times it is a fake or possibly a real one Galaxy that could of had screen damage and was replaced with a fake screen.
Check the side by side pic comparison the OP posted.
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Someone tried this on my girlfriend. I ended up beating the shiit out of him than i threw the note in a puddle. Lol got me so heated.
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You didn't touch that guy I was there sitting in the parking lot on break at my job, stop perpetrating online lol aahahahaaha oh no a thug post
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i received my s7 edge today, and found some things that are worrying me. first, the writing on the bottom of the back of the phone is barely noticeable, and definitely not readable. second, it states on the box, that it was made in vietnam. i haven't read anywhere of samsung having phone fabricated in vietnam.
on the other hand, everything works perfectly. i downloaded aida64, and it has the sony sensor on the back camera. it is listed as a 935f, and not some other wierd letter. the everything i have tested has worked flawlessly. but i can't get over worrying that the other shoe will fall after it's too late to return.
so i need for those who have a g935f, to let me know if you can easily read the writing at the bottom of the back cover, and if you have one that was fabricated in vietnam, i'd like to know if you have had any problems with it at all. thanks!!!
You can tell if it's fake, Samsung's are made in Korea and Vietnam the small text on the back is hard for anyone to read
Sounds like the real deal. Dial *#06# in your dealer. That should give you your imei. It should match the one on the phone.
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mrnovanova said:
Sounds like the real deal. Dial *#06# in your dealer. That should give you your imei. It should match the one on the phone.
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yeah, it matches.
stevae said:
yeah, it matches.
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Then stop worrying and enjoy that bad boy already. [emoji12]
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The screen is made of cheap glass material.
this is the one thing i can't tell. it's shiny and beautiful, but i'm not sure of the glass quality.
2
The screen is too far from the edge.
(Cloned phones have a wide gap between the edge of the screen and the edge of the phone).
no, no gaps.
3
The screen is not as bright and vibrant as the original device's.
the screen is very bright and beautiful.
4
Some of the sensors are not available.
can't find one of the sensors which isn't working.
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The Home button is not located in the exact same spot as the one on the genuine item.
the home button seems correctly located
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The Samsung logos are not smoothed out and can be felt; rubbing it will also remove the logo.
no, they are smooth and under the glass.
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The device's proportions different than that of the genuine product.
seems like the same dimensions, as it fits properly into my cases.
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Gaps between parts like the home, power, and volume buttons are obvious.
no gaps at any of these buttons.
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When the battery cover is opened, some of the small components do not match with the original ones.
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can't take the battery cover off the s7 edge.
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The phone does not have a seal from the National Communications Agency or an equivalent agency in your country.
this is the other thing. i can NOT find this seal. the text on the back is not readable.
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The battery specifications are not the same.
battery is 3600mAH
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so there are a few questions still. but most of those things are perfect. can't help being paranoid about the ones which aren't though.
Further more, just call Samsung and ask them to confirm it. Lol
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Definitely fake. Return it immediately
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stevae said:
so there are a few questions still. but most of those things are perfect. can't help being paranoid about the ones which aren't though.
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Well it's a white 935F.... I've heard these are really rare..... I would be paranoid too.... Did you check phone info app also....? Check refurbishment check also
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Rydah805 said:
Further more, just call Samsung and ask them to confirm it. Lol
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Give this man an award for hitting the nail on the head. Lol
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h3ck said:
Give this man an award for hitting the nail on the head. Lol
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of course with samsung everything that seems like it would be that easy, never is. samsung america will NOT comment whatsoever on the g935f, because it is not an american device. they act like they are completely handicapped if you ask them about anything that is NOT carrier specific. It, of course, was the first thing i did. then i tried to call the uk customer support, but the time difference kept screwing that up. and on top of all that, i had to make a decision today, or get stuck. so that is why i was buggin.
however, tonight i drove across town to the bestbuy, and held a few of theirs in my hands while the guys were busy with other customers, and that made me feel a lot better, as several of those also had writing that was hard to see. only on the edge, not the reg s7, which was very clear. then i had the samsung rep look it over, check all the coding and he said it was legit. so i am done. i will keep it, and feel great about it. all day it has performed very well, and all sensors work perfectly. i've done motion sensors, bluetooth, cameras, wifi, etc... it all checked out. so thank you for anyone who commented to this thread. i appreciate the efforts. cheers!
Kjc99 said:
Well it's a white 935F.... I've heard these are really rare..... I would be paranoid too.... Did you check phone info app also....? Check refurbishment check also
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yeah, i've been killing myself to find a white one. definitely a very difficult task, especially if you are NOT willing to pay over a thousand dollars for it. they have them on ebay for
$1,150.00. But i'd settled for a black one before paying that. so i have my very rare white one, and it's all good now. and i actually paid a hundred less than the first one i got. so very happy with the end result.
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Give this man an award for hitting the nail on the head. Lol
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Lol too sensible
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stevae said:
yeah, i've been killing myself to find a white one. definitely a very difficult task, especially if you are NOT willing to pay over a thousand dollars for it. they have them on ebay for
$1,150.00. But i'd settled for a black one before paying that. so i have my very rare white one, and it's all good now. and i actually paid a hundred less than the first one i got. so very happy with the end result.
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Worth every penny for a fake white one. Everyone knows white makes it faster. That's why best f1 cars are mostly white
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KrisPerry said:
Lol too sensible
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Worth every penny for a fake white one. Everyone knows white makes it faster. That's why best f1 cars are mostly white
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maybe it's a reading comprehension thing...
stevae said:
maybe it's a reading comprehension thing...
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So the writing on the back is blacked out because of the change from the fCC that doesn't mandate the imei and other info be displayed. So since the phone is blacked out they made it dark so you can see if you look closely but not if you are far away. Phone is made in multiple locations, and honestly only way to be 100% sure is to check hardware which you did. That can't be spoofed easily and takes work. Also, if it's real you should be able to register it on Samsung's website. If you can register it. Chances are your are good.
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You can install this APP, tap on the 3 menu lines on the up to the left and tap Refurbishment Check option.
Mine says made in vietnam and the texts in the back are barely noticeable (i got the black variant tho) but im 100% sure my device is legit since i got it from a legit source. Where did you get yours? If its somewhere fishy then you should worry. If its from a trusted source then dont worry at all.
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My last 3 samsung devices including this one are all made in vietnam. I bought them all from my carrier. The text on the back is a little hard to see at certain lighting.
Joku1981 said:
You can install this APP, tap on the 3 menu lines on the up to the left and tap Refurbishment Check option.
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yeah, i installed that app this afternoon, and it says it's all good. except my scs says nordic se. that's the only thing that stuck out. but after seeing all of that, comparing it to other s7 edge devices in a bestbuy tonight, and speaking with their guy, i am satisfied it is all good. runs really fast, and the battery life has lasted all day with very little drain.
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Mine says made in vietnam and the texts in the back are barely noticeable (i got the black variant tho) but im 100% sure my device is legit since i got it from a legit source. Where did you get yours? If its somewhere fishy then you should worry. If its from a trusted source then dont worry at all.
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yeah, i feel a lot better after you guys were telling me that yours was made in vietnam as well. i'd just never paid attention before to that. but i got it off an online store. they of course say they are legit, but you never know if you can walk in and see. anyway, all's well that ends well. and i am cool with it now. thanks for the comment.
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i received my s7 edge today, and found some things that are worrying me. first, the writing on the bottom of the back of the phone is barely noticeable, and definitely not readable. second, it states on the box, that it was made in vietnam. i haven't read anywhere of samsung having phone fabricated in vietnam.
on the other hand, everything works perfectly. i downloaded aida64, and it has the sony sensor on the back camera. it is listed as a 935f, and not some other wierd letter. the everything i have tested has worked flawlessly. but i can't get over worrying that the other shoe will fall after it's too late to return.
so i need for those who have a g935f, to let me know if you can easily read the writing at the bottom of the back cover, and if you have one that was fabricated in vietnam, i'd like to know if you have had any problems with it at all. thanks!!!
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Inspection procedures :
First, observe the outside . With your description , about 70% of it is a fake product.
Next, you download the CPUZ app. You can check all information of hardware, compared to the manufacturer's specifications .
Finally, press * # 0 * # , you can test status of hardware: Sensors, screens ...
I am not sure what kind of Chinese phone I have...
I thought I has a Samsung Galaxy S-10+ that I paid $800 for off eBay.. About phone says it’s a SM-9750....
When I press Volume Down & Bixby to go into download mode I get this.... (see attached image).......
it's fake 100%.
Even cpu is low end MTK6580.
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it's fake 100%.
Even cpu is low end MTK6580.
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Thanks for your reply....
I will never shop on eBay again...Live & Learn.
Paypal should cover this right?
aouni_tahech said:
Paypal should cover this right?
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No.......I have had the phone six months without knowing it was fake.....The phone came packaged real nice in a Galaxy S10 box brand new... It looked totally legit.....
After I had the phone for awhile and there were no updates I started looking into Galaxy S10’s on the net and the more I looked the more I realized I probably have a fake phone.....
It’s still on Android 9....
I wonder if I can flash the firmware to 10....... I have the firmware but Odin doesn’t seem to work on a Mac......I can’t install Heimdall on my Mac.
Antutu app I downloaded says my phone is?
See attached image......
Cayin N6 said:
Antutu app I downloaded says my phone is?
See attached image......
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$800 for a fake.......
It works but I can’t seem to update.....This fake S-10 has a Fastboot but I don’t think it works....
This phone has no download mode, it has a Fastboot mode that seems to do nothing.
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Damn Chinese....
Thanks for your reply....
I will never shop on eBay again...Live & Learn.
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eBay is in no way at fault in this case.
Was it a experienced seller? Sometimes people won't check the seller before buying first
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Was it a experienced seller? Sometimes people won't check the seller before buying first
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He had a rating of 98%....
The packaging looked very professional...These people are good at what they do.....Everything looked very legit except the specs of the phone months later.....
I wish I would have downloaded a .app or something much sooner so I would have known all the specs to match them up to the real s10 Plus....
Live and learn...
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Also this s10 has a big forehead as the real s10 as a much smaller forehead