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HTC are Utter Rubbish! edited - because I may have upset some users..

Sorry to say that I recently went from a wizard (which I've had for 18 months) to a hermes...disappointed doesn't even begin to describe my experience.
I had the 'brick' as I've come to call it, 3 days and already it's deceased.
Started getting the 'phantom taps' and now no TS at all.
Rebooted a dozen times and it just wont get past the screen alignment...in fact if you sit and watch it does it itself!
I even know what the issue is as it's been reported in the past but you'd think HTC would've sorted it by now.
HTC are palming off shonky goods as cutting edge.....really disapointed.

Did you flash a custom ROM onto it? Is it a hardware problem? In any case, it's covered by a warranty, you probably just got a defective unit. IMO, the upgrade from my wizard to hermes was a HUGE difference in performance and I'd never go back.

hardware related
Its hardware related....as the device gets warm (probably room temperature!) the screen expands and the TS membrane is pinched. All kinds of fun ensues!
There's no warranty on it..so it wont be going back.
Chalk another one up to experience.

if you have no warranty then you prob didn't pay much and you prob didn't get a new unit, and you prob didn't even get from a reputable place....so buyer beware...if the deal was to good to be true it prob was and did you ever think to ask yourself why the unit was for sale in the first place.

Assume a lot dontcha
It's brand new...from a friend who upgraded almost immediately to a HTC Touch.
You are correct though - didn't cost me a bean - shame my wizard's already gone....
oh..and while you're at it...get off yer high horse!
Assuming that I'm a dumb hick who'll buy anything that's cheap is a bit insulting..

Andy Phillips said:
It's brand new...from a friend who upgraded almost immediately to a HTC Touch.
You are correct though - didn't cost me a bean - shame my wizard's already gone....
oh..and while you're at it...get off yer high horse!
Assuming that I'm a dumb hick who'll buy anything that's cheap is a bit insulting..
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If it's brand new from a friend, why not have him simply return the unit as defective??? Besides, just because you aren't the original buyer doesn't mean there is no warranty...

I have both a Wizard and a Hermes. Apart from the Wizard feeling like it is more rugged when it's in your hand, the Hermes is superior in every other way. And when you load WM6 onto the Hermes, it just blows the Wizard away completely.
If you know enough about this device to know that the innards are "expanding" and that something is being pinched by this, it sounds like you've taken it apart.
You're clearly not telling us the whole story in any case. If you ever want real advice for fixing your Hermes instead of just venting and not telling us what you've done to it to cause these problems, a lot of people here will be happy to help you.
BTW, I've found that doing a soft reset after charging it does a lot for any heat problems if this is truly the only problem you're having.

...several screen alignment "fixes" available on this website...

Lay off the guy
Look folks, the 'phantom tap' is a known and documented hardware issue with Hermes and has nothing to do with where/how/when/why the unit was acquired, nor for how much. Wise up (and shut up if you don't know what you're talking about).
To the OP: Don't give up so easily. In my experience HTC tracks the warranty by serial number. Call them and insist on an RMA. I was successful in getting one fixed free of charge. And guess what... I bought it on ebaY, and the warranty seal had been broken!
Btw, it's not the touch screen. Been there, replaced it, didn't fix it.

Thanks vp3G
vp3G said:
Look folks, the 'phantom tap' is a known and documented hardware issue with Hermes and has nothing to do with where/how/when/why the unit was acquired, nor for how much. Wise up (and shut up if you don't know what you're talking about).
To the OP: Don't give up so easily. In my experience HTC tracks the warranty by serial number. Call them and insist on an RMA. I was successful in getting one fixed free of charge. And guess what... I bought it on ebaY, and the warranty seal had been broken!
Btw, it's not the touch screen. Been there, replaced it, didn't fix it.
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Thanks for that man!
As it turns out the device was still under warranty and it's been returned...just waiting for it to come back!
Funnily enough when I had it the first time, the rom I put on it was your 'Black Satin'! Nice ROM, particularly the file explorer replacement!
Personally I didn't see much in the way of difference between the hermes and the wizard....but I did have it only for three days.
When I get it back I and test it out a bit more, I will gladly eat my words if it out performs the old wizard.
Anyway, I wasn't slating the hermes in itself..many of my friends have one p )..it was HTC themselves for still selling devices to consumers with a known fault.
Andy.

Andy Phillips said:
Sorry to say that I recently went from a wizard (which I've had for 18 months) to a hermes...disappointed doesn't even begin to describe my experience.
I had the 'brick' as I've come to call it, 3 days and already it's deceased.
Started getting the 'phantom taps' and now no TS at all.
Rebooted a dozen times and it just wont get past the screen alignment...in fact if you sit and watch it does it itself!
I even know what the issue is as it's been reported in the past but you'd think HTC would've sorted it by now.
HTC are palming off shonky goods as cutting edge.....really disapointed.
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One dud BMW doesn't make BMW's bad cars. You got a dud, plain and simple. Return it for one that works.
HTC has impressed me, especially lately as they are trying to "redesign" the interface for windows mobile to make it actually usable.

BMWs are incredibly bad cars for the price they are sold for.

Andy Phillips said:
As it turns out the device was still under warranty and it's been returned...just waiting for it to come back!
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Well..... imagine that...
Funnily enough when I had it the first time, the rom I put on it was your 'Black Satin'! Nice ROM, particularly the file explorer replacement!
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Thanks, but I can't take credit for Black Satin... that's JasJamming's ROM...
Personally I didn't see much in the way of difference between the hermes and the wizard....but I did have it only for three days.
When I get it back I and test it out a bit more, I will gladly eat my words if it out performs the old wizard.
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Hope you're hungry...
Anyway, I wasn't slating the hermes in itself..many of my friends have one p )..it was HTC themselves for still selling devices to consumers with a known fault.
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It's a valid gripe, IMO. The problem you experienced is certainly 'hush-hush' with them.

@vp3G
aaah....I thought it was your rom because of the nifty splash screens!
I was considering getting a kaiser but I think I will play it safe and wait until it's been 'in the field' for a while...
See you later,
Andy.

BATTERY COVER CRACK! Have you got one Too???

Hi everybody ,
I haven't been around in a while. I just wanted to point out that some people have noticed a small crack on the back case of the sapphire , HTC magic etc. where the mesh is up the top......
I noticed it and others have on another forum , so i thought it might be a good idea to see if you have it too???
Just wondering if anyone on here had the same problem??

So no one else has this problem?

Nope mines fine, treat it better

Wombat said:
Nope mines fine, treat it better
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LOL , I treat mine like royalty
I thought i would bring it up as users of the vodafone UK Forum board have raised this issue that a number of people have this problem. It seems Like a design fault
Have a read through hear
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26511
Good to hear you have not got it though , The HTC MAGIC is a BEAUTIFUL piece of kit

I have exactly the same crack on the back case of my Vodafon DE

Strange isn't it , Definetly a manufacturers fault
Be warned , it could get larger! As seen in the forum link posted above there is a picture.
According to vodafone , to get it repaired you have to send it off using the repair process which takes about 5 days !!
All to get the case replaced

CLLC said:
Strange isn't it , Definetly a manufacturers fault
Be warned , it could get larger! As seen in the forum link posted above there is a picture.
According to vodafone , to get it repaired you have to send it off using the repair process which takes about 5 days !!
All to get the case replaced
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That's still probably acceptable for many. The people in the link said that it keeps getting bigger and bigger. You're better off looking for a point in time where it would optimal for you to send it off. Then you can give yourself some leeway instead of having to do it as the massive crack in the back of the case demands.

Wow, I just checked mine and I have one too! Never noticed that before! I've had mine a couple of weeks and have looked after it like a baby. Maybe it was there from the start but it's so tiny I didn't notice.

mine got no crack

Mine has the tiniest of cracks but I'm not going to send it off to Vodafone to get fixed. As soon as it launches as the myTouch 3g in the USA aren't they going to be selling new back fascias anyway with designs etc? I think I'll just pick one up on the cheap on ebay when it comes to it getting horribly bad

wowo~~~~mine is ok, and I had used for around two monthes already.

TAM1m said:
I have exactly the same crack on the back case of my Vodafon DE
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When did you buy?Did you try to repair it? Hope you can fix it good luck

Mine has the tiniest of cracks but I'm not going to send it off to Vodafone to get fixed. As soon as it launches as the myTouch 3g in the USA aren't they going to be selling new back fascias anyway with designs etc? I think I'll just pick one up on the cheap on ebay when it comes to it getting horribly bad
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This makes the most sense. Hell, even just buy an OEM cover...I don't see what the big deal is!

HD 2 Fake?

Hey Guys,
I've seen very cheap a HTC HD2:
http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-4...ual+sim+standby+Quadband+256M512M+80M+AF.html
But it's a fake, isn't it?
But if the Windows Mobile is original (what I think), am I then able to flash it with another ROM which is made for the original HTC HD2?
Greets,
Leofx

defo fake anyway...you can see by the 3 sensors on the front and the back of the phone

. It sure looks good to me but the price can likely get one hd2 already maybe a used one on ebay . The street fighter screen, WM 6.5, the messengers , online tv and the rmvb player sure is a winner .Remark：1G cpu, Smart phone, 8.1M AF Camera, WIFI, GPS, Dual sim cards Quadband Muti-touch Capacitive screen Huge memory 8GB
Accessories：2 batteries (1350mAh)/a charger/earphone/data wire

Yes, fake... Never mentions HTC... Brand = OEM lol...

Leofx said:
Hey Guys,
I've seen very cheap a HTC HD2:
http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-4...ual+sim+standby+Quadband+256M512M+80M+AF.html
But it's a fake, isn't it?
But if the Windows Mobile is original (what I think), am I then able to flash it with another ROM which is made for the original HTC HD2?
Greets,
Leofx
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Its a fake, check out their Sony Ericsson X10, it doesn't even have Sony Ericsson or X10 written on it.
As it isn't a real HD2, I doubt a ROM would work.

http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-4...Intel+166GHz+Atom+160G+wifi+gps+G-sensor.html
wtf 399 usd

erikvario said:
http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-4...Intel+166GHz+Atom+160G+wifi+gps+G-sensor.html
wtf 399 usd
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Wow, that really looks cool *.*
I didn't watch the other things of the shop yet, but i think they have great mobiles, pc's and accesoires
EDIT:
theyve got a diamond 2 fake too, with wm and android; so it seems to be that they used the xdandroid o0:
http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-4...50M+Camera+624MHz+wifi+Gps+Fm+2G+tf+free.html
its very cheap, so i think its a cracked wm...
but if its really the xdandroid, than the roms from here seem to be working!?
i would maybe buy 1 of them, but i think the shipping is very expensive (i didnt find any price yet...) and i think the duty dont like mobile fakes like this^^
sorry for my bad english...

whyPad.........running android......
kinda tempted to buy this piece of crap.......

I bought a phone called Meizu now, it seems to be very good, it has Windows CE.
I hope its as good as on the videos^^

Fastcardtech are reliable. But keep in mind that if you order using Paypal you will have to pay an extra Paypal fee.

Thanks, but I didn't bought at Fastchardtech.
Someone I know, who told me about the HD 2 Fake too, got it much cheaper for me
So I've paid 230$ for a phone with a glass, capatsitive Touchscreen with Windows CE and a very nice UI (if its how it seems on the pictures/videos) and WiFi. The only thing thats missing is GPS, but a forum for chinamobiles told me its no problem to connect a GPS-Mouse via Bluetooth

It sounds brilliant. Please keep us updated with how the phone actually works out for you.
I'd also be interested to know what the build quality is like i.e. if it breaks very quickly.

conantroutman said:
whyPad.........running android......
kinda tempted to buy this piece of crap.......
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AH-AH!
Me too!
It's got everything an ipad's missing, only downsides are smaller screen and not capacitive :-( Plus a lot of other things.... yet, not bad!

Yes, I will.
But the money still isn't on my PayPal account, so I think it takes a while till it comes...

Hello, I think I also bought a Fake HD2 from ebay. I am curious, did you file a complaint with eBay? I am going to deal with this now and I am curious on how others are dealing with the situation. Thanks, Andre

I forgot to say that on mine everything works. I can use the GPS, etc. The only thing is that the IMEI is not in any HTC database. I've called HTC and they say that the phone was not made by them. I wonder that is why I was able to pay $300 for when it was listed as a new item.

[Q] HD2 LCD screen

Hi everyone!
I got some questions but first off I'll go ahead and give the background story of everything.
I bought my HD2 about 2 years ago, now when it finally got payed of (20/01 -12) of course I dropped it for the first time ever and the lcd screen totaly 'died'. I have always loved this phone, but to send it to an repair-store is not an option as it costs 1789 SEK (Swedish 'krona') -is something like 269,03 USD. Not much maybe but for an 2 years old phone, thats too much. /Money I rather spend on a new phone..
Tomorrow I will most likely go and buy the Galaxy Nexus, but still think the HD2 is worth saving, what im thinking of is to order an LCD and try it myself. If I make it worse well, then It wont matter.
My questions:
* After searching for LCD's they say "..for model T8585"
- I guess all HD2 (exept T-mobile maybe?) has this model-nr..? On my box anyway its say T8585.
* Some stores that also say "for model T8585" also say "only US"
- Well, I guess they dont mean "only shipping in US" as its the same store/site that sells other not saying "only US". Is this model-restrictions and how will I know the screens will 'fit' my Leo?
* Is there anything else I should look for exept the model number (T8585) to be certain that it will work/fit ?
Also I will attach a picture of how the screen looks like turned on so you maybe can tell me if I need to replace more than the LCD (Digitalizer/touch screen)
I saw another, old, topic about this but the picture was gone and I guess he could see and then thereby use his cellphone to test if the touch-screen/digitalizer worked wich I cannot.
Might be hard to tell, I dunno..
-If anybody know an reliable store/site that ships to Sweden that sells screens or right screen you would make my day if you could provide me with link.
-Also if they dont/or if you dont know -ship to Sweden; please provide link.
Another question that doesnt have anything with this topic (other than I would have needed this 3 weeks ago ) if there is somewhere to find an Otterbox case for HD2? I know they dont support Leo no longer but I will purchase it for the Galaxy Nexus also so would be nice if it could be found for HD2 also.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: And yes, I have searched the forum. All I find is dead links, non-helpful etc etc.

Oh thats not so good
I dropped mine a while back and cracked the screen big time. Decided id repolace the digitizer but it was only when i got it all apart that i found i needed more expert knowledge than i possess to put it back together. Which all meant another £50 to buy a digitiser/lcd combo. Theres plenty on ebay, such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110758732279?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
You could always ask the question about whether this is the right model for you. They should be able to help.
Its a bit of a faff to fit the new screen, but if your in the middle of a contract and cant do an early upgrade it is possibly an option. Or just get another one if you can upgrade....

Anonaxi said:
Hi everyone!
I got some questions but first off I'll go ahead and give the background story of everything.
I bought my HD2 about 2 years ago, now when it finally got payed of (20/01 -12) of course I dropped it for the first time ever and the lcd screen totaly 'died'. I have always loved this phone, but to send it to an repair-store is not an option as it costs 1789 SEK (Swedish 'krona') -is something like 269,03 USD. Not much maybe but for an 2 years old phone, thats too much. /Money I rather spend on a new phone..
Tomorrow I will most likely go and buy the Galaxy Nexus, but still think the HD2 is worth saving, what im thinking of is to order an LCD and try it myself. If I make it worse well, then It wont matter.
My questions:
* After searching for LCD's they say "..for model T8585"
- I guess all HD2 (exept T-mobile maybe?) has this model-nr..? On my box anyway its say T8585.
* Some stores that also say "for model T8585" also say "only US"
- Well, I guess they dont mean "only shipping in US" as its the same store/site that sells other not saying "only US". Is this model-restrictions and how will I know the screens will 'fit' my Leo?
* Is there anything else I should look for exept the model number (T8585) to be certain that it will work/fit ?
Also I will attach a picture of how the screen looks like turned on so you maybe can tell me if I need to replace more than the LCD (Digitalizer/touch screen)
I saw another, old, topic about this but the picture was gone and I guess he could see and then thereby use his cellphone to test if the touch-screen/digitalizer worked wich I cannot.
Might be hard to tell, I dunno..
-If anybody know an reliable store/site that ships to Sweden that sells screens or right screen you would make my day if you could provide me with link.
-Also if they dont/or if you dont know -ship to Sweden; please provide link.
Another question that doesnt have anything with this topic (other than I would have needed this 3 weeks ago ) if there is somewhere to find an Otterbox case for HD2? I know they dont support Leo no longer but I will purchase it for the Galaxy Nexus also so would be nice if it could be found for HD2 also.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: And yes, I have searched the forum. All I find is dead links, non-helpful etc etc.
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You should buy whole combo(LCD+touchscreen) in order to do a fine job(it will be much easier for you this way, with good quality in the end). Doing like this it doesn't matter what version/type would be (US or whatever), 'cause they are interchangeable: some rumours indicate US version to be better by quality.
Ebay could be a source for you...
Good luck!

bib*oops said:
You should buy whole combo(LCD+touchscreen) in order to do a fine job(it will be much easier for you this way, with good quality in the end). Doing like this it doesn't matter what version/type would be (US or whatever), 'cause they are interchangeable: some rumours indicate US version to be better by quality.
Ebay could be a source for you...
Good luck!
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Thanks alot bib*oops, that was of great help!
I was actually thinking of buying a combo, lcd&touchscreen, as Im not 100% sure that my touchscreen still works as it should.
-Didnt know the rest (about the screens) so thanks, oh hundreds of thanks to you!

How can one choose combo assembly?
There is one for T-Mobile HD2 and one for European HD2.
This one says that its for T8585
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120745779165?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Is T8585 only european? Or are they both(T-Mobile and European) marked as T8585?
Is this one compatible with european?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120745779165?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

DimensionSlider said:
How can one choose combo assembly?
There is one for T-Mobile HD2 and one for European HD2.
This one says that its for T8585
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Is T8585 only european? Or are they both(T-Mobile and European) marked as T8585?
Is this one compatible with european?
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Yea I had the same question but then saw something somewhere saying that T-Mobiles version of HD2 is slightly larger (longer or wider -dont know exactly wich -or both) and therefore I will go for one that is stated for EU-model and would suggest you to do the same, depending on what type of HD2 you've got.

The awful journey of my DZ and what should i do with it?

Hi DZ owners, I want to share a story with you:
*walloftext*
I had my DZ for about a year.
Then it was stolen one evening in a place full of people. I never thought I would see it again.
But then after about half a year I got 2 parties, which accused each other of having it.
Through intimidation on luck of one of them still having it I have got it back.
That imbecile did neither sell or use it. He just had it lying around in a cupboard as a kind of trophy, propably even smasehd it on ground some times... (And I wondered why I couldnt track it.)
Now the phone is a terrible mess. The battery was empty for a long time, degraded to not even last a day. The display (not the glass) was broken.
Then I bought a new battery and display for about 30€ replaced the display and while opening one of those small fragile connectors at the side of the board (I dont actually know what they connect, can someone tell me?), the lower one broke but I kludged it with a small piece of tape in place.
Fine everything worked, my Virtuous Unity install boots with /data as I left it.
The reading of my notes and contacts from that time really got me a nostalgia flash.
The sdcard was gone (I actually searched that guys box of stolen phones). Putting a new one in, phone mounts and stops complaining. After that I turned it off, wanting to sleep. The next day I loaded a fresh rom, QuadraSense because Virtuous Unity uses too much ram. Put it on SD and guess what? The SD (any of 5 microsds i have.) cant be mounted, not with FAT, not with EXT. Can the broken connector from the insides cause this?
But when I shake the phone the display brightness varies, (the kludged clip is not really stable) so I guess the connector is either for the display energy or the sensor but it could be multipurpose.
When I have fixed that, what will propably be the next problem with this phone?
Should I invest more time/replacement stuff into it or just buy a new one? Are there newer phones with physical keyboard?
I had a Motorola Milestone 2 for a while for really cheap but their keyboards suck because the keys stop working or stick, it seems like the existing MS2s have reached their end of life. (I have tested 4 MS2s all the same.)
I am thinking of a Galaxy Note if not keyboard. Anyone here knows about the openness and rom diversity? (I am browsing that forum right after this post so this is not just a lazyass question, more of an if someone just has the info in mind right now.)
lol at the existing tags!

sounds like the connection to the sdcard slot is damaged as well as the main flexcable as it sounds like you replaced the lcd
I don't know your situation but if it were me id find it gratifying to kick the guys ass and demand a brand new g2, but to each there own
personal opinion there isn't a better phone on the market right now than the g2/dz, at least not for my needs so it may be worth your time fixing this one
(that guy sounds like the kind of *******s that deserve very bad things)
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

What cell phone does this guy use? You should just take it out of his hand and tell him you're even. I did that to a guy who stole my skateboard once. He was on steroids and weighed 50lbs more than me, but I guess I used the f word enough times loud enough that he realized he was wrong? I don't know if i'd try that again though hahaha
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I fear it might be the end of your DZ and tbh if it was me in your position I would go with a Note or may be the SG3

I'll pay him a visit today when hes back from work, I think hes got enough money to buy a new one. His currently used phone is an old Sony Erricson thing. As for if I am even with him, dont know my physical condition is not the best but with the power of ale one can not fail. XD
EDIT: Thats the broken piece inside:
Meh embedding doesnt work with 3 MB pics, just the link: http://gheddo.biz/pic/desirez.JPG
Urgh phones get so filthy when you zoom in.

the parts aren't that expensive. U you can get them on eBay and repair it yourself
If you get a new phone. I'd get an sgs3
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Illidan Pornrage said:
I'll pay him a visit today when hes back from work, I think hes got enough money to buy a new one. His currently used phone is an old Sony Erricson thing. As for if I am even with him, dont know my physical condition is not the best but with the power of ale one can not fail. XD
EDIT: Thats the broken piece inside:
Meh embedding doesnt work with 3 MB pics, just the link: http://gheddo.biz/pic/desirez.JPG
Urgh phones get so filthy when you zoom in.
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Just so you know my post was half joke. Yes, I think he owes you a new phone, but I don't want to find out you got in a fistfight with him b/c of my joke advice. haha but still, if he knows he's wrong, you'd be surprised sometimes how compliant a guilty person can be.
Good luck! Let us know what you decide and how it turns out =)
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