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[Q] Root without tripping knox?

Hey, I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I want to root it and install cyanogenmod 11 on it. But I read that there's some problem with Knox and how it ends your warranty if the flag changes to 0x1. I'm currently on Android 4.4.2 kitkat official ROM by Samsung. Can I root it without loosing my warranty? Also, I read that Kingoroot roots your phone and doesn't trip your knox counter either. Does anyone know about this?
The main thing I wanna do after rooting is change the DPI of my phone. I hate such big icons.

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saurabh_goyal93 said:
Hey, I recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I want to root it and install cyanogenmod 11 on it. But I read that there's some problem with Knox and how it ends your warranty if the flag changes to 0x1. I'm currently on Android 4.4.2 kitkat official ROM by Samsung. Can I root it without loosing my warranty? Also, I read that Kingoroot roots your phone and doesn't trip your knox counter either. Does anyone know about this?
The main thing I wanna do after rooting is change the DPI of my phone. I hate such big icons.
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There isnt way to root without trip KNOX with android 4.4.2

RubbaBand said:
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I did search for it. As far as I know, saferoot method is not working with 4.4.2 ROMs.

You are out of luck man

RubbaBand said:
You are out of luck man
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I hate Samsung for this. I'm thinking of trading in my phone for a Nexus 5 now. But I wonder how will I live without memory card support! :'(

Buy an HTC ONE M8 its even better than S5

RubbaBand said:
Buy an HTC ONE M8 its even better than S5
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I wish I could. I'm a student and only I know how I bought S4. It's only one month old. So, I can't buy HTC ONE M8. Anyways, thanks for the suggestion.

If your phone is unlocked
Sell it
Then get some little money then buy htc

[Q] Binary Counter

Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?

Arjoni said:
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
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1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.

you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone

AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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Yes absolutely a problem. I forgot to mention it. If any unofficial stuff is flashed then this knox pox is triggered.

Mandark52 said:
1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
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AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...

Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.

Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.

Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours

andyjg247 said:
Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
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Mandark52 said:
First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
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AIkizov said:
I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
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i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you

Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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your warranty will void

AIkizov said:
your warranty will void
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so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-

Arjoni said:
so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
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have the ability to format, but the stock rom allows do not have permission to freely manipulate software - Void your warranty

Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.

Mandark52 said:
As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
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Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates

AIkizov said:
Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
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As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.

Mandark52 said:
As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
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now just talking about root that does not alter Recoverу

Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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If your warranty will be void depends strongly on in which country you live. There is no yes or no answer.

Flash anything but an official Samsung package through Odin and it will trigger the Knox flag and change the device status to Custom. OTA updates will stop.
Re flashing an official Samsung package afterwards will change the device back to Official and OTA updates will resume. But the Knox flag will still show as triggered. Theres no way to reset it.
Sent from my SM-T310

New to Note 3 - Some questions please

Hey all!
I just bought a Note 3 9005 (LTE) version.
I would like to root it, install a custom recovery and flash a custom rom or keep the stock if I like it in the meantime.
==> What should I know? What is that Knox? How to root? flash CWM/TWRP? etc...
The phone is used and doesn't have any warranty so I don't care about software Knox counter or anything similar in case it DOESN'T affect anything hardware in the phone or doesn't hinder the usage of the phone!
Note: BTW what S5 rom would you recommend me?
Thank you!

Damn 78 views and no single reply... that's really sad!
I thought you would welcome me and help me!

You have many posts to read how to root....and for 5S you have 2 roms...

Because spoon feeding sucks.
What you are asking, is answered on the web in the millions. And besides, it won't hurt you if you do some reading on your own. Stop being lazy.
Sent from my N9005

Life Engineer said:
Hey all!
I just bought a Note 3 9005 (LTE) version.
I would like to root it, install a custom recovery and flash a custom rom or keep the stock if I like it in the meantime.
==> What should I know? What is that Knox? How to root? flash CWM/TWRP? etc...
The phone is used and doesn't have any warranty so I don't care about software Knox counter or anything similar in case it DOESN'T affect anything hardware in the phone or doesn't hinder the usage of the phone!
Note: BTW what S5 rom would you recommend me?
Thank you!
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As you don't care about Knox, you can use CF-Auto Root. It is considered a easy way to root. I personally use CWM recovery.
Regarding custom ROM I have no idea.

Life Engineer said:
Hey all!
I just bought a Note 3 9005 (LTE) version.
I would like to root it, install a custom recovery and flash a custom rom or keep the stock if I like it in the meantime.
==> What should I know? What is that Knox? How to root? flash CWM/TWRP? etc...
The phone is used and doesn't have any warranty so I don't care about software Knox counter or anything similar in case it DOESN'T affect anything hardware in the phone or doesn't hinder the usage of the phone!
Note: BTW what S5 rom would you recommend me?
Thank you!
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- Hey
- Welcome!
- Then do just that
- You will trip KNOX - KNOX is a warranty counter than allows the phone to use Samsung KNOX services as well as your warranty status - Flash TWRP in recovery and let it root your phone.
- If you don't care about warranty you don't have to care for KNOX. You can happily flash any kernels and ROMs without hesitation.
- Use RC-Elite's S5 port, others are not supported by the devs anymore.
- You're welcome!

Just flash any rom (I prefer MultiX) and enjoy all the beauty of android
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

[Help] Install 4.4.2 Custom ROM without Knox Tripping

Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance

hbahaie said:
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
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Last I checked there wasn't a clear cut method, it could be done. And since you're still on 4.3 it may be easier.
Have a look around and check the threads, there was some workarounds posted a few months back. It's not easy but it was doable. Using Mobile Odin Pro (still possible AFAIK)
I personally like a lot of others just tripped KNOX as it was a lot easier. However this isn't a viable option for everyone.
So in my opinion and my personal advice, weigh up the pros and cons of potentially tripping KNOX.
If you wanna flash custom ROMs, kernels without any headaches. Aren't too worried about your warranty (especially if you've had your device a while and are in the EU)
CONS: while you may be able to get things flashed and not trip KNOX, you may accidentally trip it with something so trivial, you'll always be trying to not trip it by avoiding different things.
Really, and ultimately only you can decide. No one is gonna judge you if you decide it's best for you to not trip and go the workaround methods.
Either way, whatever you decide, the forum is here to help if you have any questions or get into any difficulty. Good luck in your choice.
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2

hbahaie said:
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776887
There could be other roms but i'm not up to date either.

radicalisto said:
Last I checked there wasn't a clear cut method, it could be done. And since you're still on 4.3 it may be easier.
Have a look around and check the threads, there was some workarounds posted a few months back. It's not easy but it was doable. Using Mobile Odin Pro (still possible AFAIK)
I personally like a lot of others just tripped KNOX as it was a lot easier. However this isn't a viable option for everyone.
So in my opinion and my personal advice, weigh up the pros and cons of potentially tripping KNOX.
If you wanna flash custom ROMs, kernels without any headaches. Aren't too worried about your warranty (especially if you've had your device a while and are in the EU)
CONS: while you may be able to get things flashed and not trip KNOX, you may accidentally trip it with something so trivial, you'll always be trying to not trip it by avoiding different things.
Really, and ultimately only you can decide. No one is gonna judge you if you decide it's best for you to not trip and go the workaround methods.
Either way, whatever you decide, the forum is here to help if you have any questions or get into any difficulty. Good luck in your choice.
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
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Rosli59564 said:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776887
There could be other roms but i'm not up to date either.
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Thank you very much friends for your help.
I have tripped my device already , and I am happy, I can flash any rom I want. That's more more easier than worrying about a make no difference digit change in the download mode screen.

Root S8 without tripping Knox

Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,

zaffar.mughal said:
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
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no way.
all method tripping knox

zaffar.mughal said:
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
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What model? G950F/FD? G950U? There is a very simple way to root G950U/G950W devices already in existence. It's called SamFail and is listed with an accompanying rom in the threads section.
khaled147 said:
no way.
all method tripping knox
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False. See above.

partcyborg said:
What model? G950F/FD? G950U? There is a very simple way to root G950U/G950W devices already in existence. It's called SamFail and is listed with an accompanying rom in the threads section.
False. See above.
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What about the Exynos G950F?

chr0m said:
What about the Exynos G950F?
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Sadly, currently there is no way of rooting Exynos S8 without tripping knox..

Unfortunately as mentioned above and beyond there is no way currently without tripping Knox. Sadly, I use Samsung Pay alot and like the idea of keeping that option hence no rooting as long as this device is my DD.
Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

A question if anyone can help me.
I really need to Root my Galaxy S8 (SM-G950F) cause i need to try to recover some photos and most apps to recover need the root done.
I know that root trips Knox, but if i install an official firmware after been tripped, will phone get back to normal, or it will tripped forever??
Thanks

MeGaBeSuNTa said:
A question if anyone can help me.
I really need to Root my Galaxy S8 (SM-G950F) cause i need to try to recover some photos and most apps to recover need the root done.
I know that root trips Knox, but if i install an official firmware after been tripped, will phone get back to normal, or it will tripped forever??
Thanks
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It physically trips knox warranty, so if it’s tripped once, you can’t recover it unless you replace motherboard.

blackbox0209 said:
It physically trips knox warranty, so if it’s tripped once, you can’t recover it unless you replace motherboard.
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But once I install an official firmware, I will be able to use Knox and Samsung pay again?
Thanks

MeGaBeSuNTa said:
But once I install an official firmware, I will be able to use Knox and Samsung pay again?
Thanks
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Nope, you won't be able to use it again, even after you install an official firmware afterwards.