This video is highlighting a new feature of Android L - trusted devices. Basically, your phone doesn't lock itself as long as it's connected to trusted devices via bluetooth.
I'm more interested in the other smart lock feature shown in the video, though not really explained. It's called trusted faces. Anyone with a Nexus 4/5/7 try this yet? Can anyone confirm if it works differently (hopefully better) than face unlock in previous versions of Android?
Ya it works fine .I am loving it
I wonder if I can do this with my device and my Glass...
Dr Faustus said:
I wonder if I can do this with my device and my Glass...
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You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
wwevoxnj said:
You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
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That's good to know, I use Tasker normally to switch from Mobile Data to WiFi when arriving home and vice versa.
Trusted face works good, but I wish it would allow multiple faces.
The face unlock seems to work a bit better than in previous android versions... you don't know it's looking for your face, you just swipe to unlock and if it recognises you then it just unlocks, if not, you put your pin in.
I'm having trouble with tasked though, my old method of removing the pinning when connected to my wifi doesn't seem to work... neither does turning off the mobile data... I think it's just that tasked may need an update
I just tried this on my other N5 after seeing your post. The only time I can't get it to work consistently is in very dim/dark lighting similar to the way its always worked. The differences in the way it works on L vs earlier iterations is that it is extremely fast almost instant and it never shows the camera. It's constantly looking but in the background. There is small icon bottom center that changes from a person avatar (to tell you it is looking) to an unlocked padlock symbol to confirm it recognized you upon turning on the phone. Hope that helps. The trusted devices works wonderfully.
So does this "smart lock" only work with bluetooth and NFC? I hoped (and thought it was implied when the feature was first shown off) that you could also set it up to bypass the PIN unlocking when connected to a trusted wi-fi network, but it looks like it only works for bluetooth and NFC. Which kinda sucks for me, because I really don't use any kind of bluetooth things, nor do I have anything that would work with the NFC aspect of that, either.
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You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
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How would you have xposed running on L?
Is there a way, to use WIFI as an smart lock device? I mean maybe it is possible to use Tasker to simulate an connectet bluetooth-device if i am connectet to my wifi?
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Is there a way, to use WIFI as an smart lock device? I mean maybe it is possible to use Tasker to simulate an connectet bluetooth-device if i am connectet to my wifi?
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I have Tasker setup with Secure Settings to toggle PIN lock when I'm on home wifi, and it doesn't seem to work correctly on L for my N7 2013. The setting is set to NONE in the security settings, but I still have to enter my PIN. If I manually go in and "edit" the setting and select NONE again, then it doesn't ask for my PIN. Once I leave home and Tasker applies my PIN again, if I return home, I have to go manually select NONE again or just enter my PIN.
Not sure if that's a bug with Secure Settings or a bug in L. The setting is changed, but it doesn't seem to register. I guess I could understand if it did something like, require the PIN for unlock the first time after connecting, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I used Trusted Devices on m Moto X 2013 with the bluetooth in my car, but trusted devices are cleared when you disable PIN lock. I use the same profile to turn off the password on my phone when I'm at home, so it clears my trusted devices every time I go home. I use my phone pretty often, so the lock doesn't usually set during the day. My tablet sits on my desk at work all day and I have to unlock if I use it (30 minute lock delay), but at home I am on my tablet most of the night while my phone sits unused (but it doesn't lock, because I'm at home..).
Either way, something isn't working with L and Secure Settings on my Nexus 7.
You'll now be able to add trusted places to smart lock.
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Amazing
i'd like to use it to unlock the phone with bluetooth paired headset or NFC, unfortunately i've 4.3... do you know if ther is a mod for 4.3?
Just be aware that if you have ANY app that turns off your screen (for example, Gravity Screen, which can detect you putting the phone in your pocket or face down, and automatically shuts off the screen), the Google API also forces that app to lock the screen as it shuts it off. The lock that the app will do cannot be circumvented by Smart Lock, and you'll have to enter your passcode every time.
I just got the location-based update for smart unlock and it's great!
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the only thing that sucks about smart lock with Bluetooth, you can't control the distance. My pebble watch goes 30 meters before Bluetooth drops. That means at work i can go to the bathroom and someone still can bypass my lock screen
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You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
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I use Trusted Devices for my Nexus 6, but I don't use the other business. The face unlock can still easily be beaten. You can even just hold up another smartphone and get it done. The trusted devices is *really* nice. The only two things I use it for are my car and the sound system in my bathroom. Those are the only 2 devices that, when I use them, I know my phone is right there. I don't have it set up for my Android Wear watch, since I don't want someone to be able to pick up my phone from my desk at work when I'm 20ft away and play with it, and I don't use my home wifi because it extends all over my yard...so if anyone just picks up my phone anywhere within 100ft of my house they can use it.
2swizzle said:
the only thing that sucks about smart lock with Bluetooth, you can't control the distance. My pebble watch goes 30 meters before Bluetooth drops. That means at work i can go to the bathroom and someone still can bypass my lock screen
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Before you go to the bathroom, just touch the lock icon on the lock screen for a second or so, and it will require a passcode for the next unlock.
jt3 said:
Before you go to the bathroom, just touch the lock icon on the lock screen for a second or so, and it will require a passcode for the next unlock.
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Good to know and repped. thanks! I have a Moto Keylink coming next week
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I have a SIM unlocked and unbranded Desire Z (not rooted). I've set the screen lock to 5 minutes and to require a pattern to unlock.
I've noticed that if I let the phone go to sleep, and then after 5 minutes flip out the keyboard, it unlocks it without requiring the unlock pattern. Does this happen to anyone else?
Yeah, I think this is by design. On Windows Mobile there was a reg key to enable / disable "unlock on slide" Maybe there is similar for Android.
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I can't believe this would be by design, it completely undermines the security on the device. How could these be handed out to corporate customers when they can be unlocked by just flipping out the keyboard?
Also the behaviour is inconsistent. If I unlock using the power button, and then turn off the screen, if I flip out the keyboard to wake up again, I do require a pattern to unlock. But if I leave the device for 5 minutes and try again, it lets me straight in.
Ooops, I completely mis-understood your initial post.. The pattern is a sort of PIN screen isn't it..
Ignore me!
Craig
when i slide mine open, it shows me the unlock pattern screen in landscape
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when i slide mine open, it shows me the unlock pattern screen in landscape
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Me too, I'm using the pattern also...
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Me too, I'm using the pattern also...
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I get mixed results. Sometimes mine asks for the password, sometimes it doesn't. I've tried with a PIN, password and pattern. I seem to get the problem more often when the phone has been asleep for a long time, e.g. if I flip it open in the morning when I wake up.
In a way I am glad no one else has this but it's pretty annoying for me!
I get the same problem.
I've also found it to be sporadic. So far i'm thinking there is a pattern depending on what app you have on the screen when the phone locks or sleeps. For instance if its the home screen then it seems to be ok and on waking it prompts for a password. But on other apps it doesnt....
Do you have the same problem if you set the lock time to immediately? Maybe its some kind of problem with the timer.
With immediate lock time I cannot get into the phone without drawing the pattern, keyboard or no keyboard.
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So far i'm thinking there is a pattern depending on what app you have on the screen when the phone locks or sleeps. For instance if its the home screen then it seems to be ok and on waking it prompts for a password. But on other apps it doesnt....
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I think you might have nailed it there. If I leave the mail app open and lock the screen or let it go to sleep, after a while I can unlock it by just opening the keyboard.
cartman09 said:
Do you have the same problem if you set the lock time to immediately? Maybe its some kind of problem with the timer.
With immediate lock time I cannot get into the phone without drawing the pattern, keyboard or no keyboard.
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I am testing this and it seems to work properly so far. I'll keep it on lock immediately and see if it happens again. This is really crap though. Most users are going to keep the default of 5 minutes and be totally insecure ...
Don't use it if you use finger print scanner. I connected my BT headphones and the smart lock prompt appeared. I switched it on but unlocking the phone will require a 2 step process.
Smart lock doesn't seem to be in the menu either, so Samsung must of taken it out. I had to unpair my device to fix it.
Settings > Lock screen and security > Other security settings > Trust agents
Smart lock working fine for me(bluetooth and location) no 2 step process and I am using fingerprint unlock
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gottech said:
Smart lock working fine for me(bluetooth and location) no 2 step process and I am using fingerprint unlock
G920A with car mode
I337 stock NJ4, rooted, unlocked
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Smart lock is pretty shotty for me... I set it as location which is my work place and it's like 50/50 that it is able detect that I'm currently at work.
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Smart lock is pretty shotty for me... I set it as location which is my work place and it's like 50/50 that it is able detect that I'm currently at work.
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Try setting it up right next door, and then turn your phone off, then back on. That's what finally fixed mine, and now it works perfectly.
Smart lock works but its quicker to turn it off and just put your fingerprint over the home button.
With smart lock on you have to turn on the screen and then swipe.
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Smart lock works but its quicker to turn it off and just put your fingerprint over the home button.
With smart lock on you have to turn on the screen and then swipe.
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It's useful when driving and the phone's in a dash mount. Nothing like trying to get a fingerprint unlock while driving. With smart lock I tap the power button and swipe the screen all without looking at it. Also at work I wear gloves so I can't scan my thumb, again swiping is easier there.
But everyone's situation is different. I for sure don't have my home set up as a trusted place, don't need my roommates rummaging through my phone.
No problems here. I have my Moto 360 as a trusted device as well as my location at home. So far, no problems. No two step authorization. Just hit the power button and swipe up to go.
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i also dont understand why they dont add a trusted wlan to the location options
would be much more efficient then gps...
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i also dont understand why they dont add a trusted wlan to the location options
would be much more efficient then gps...
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jhericurls said:
Don't use it if you use finger print scanner. I connected my BT headphones and the smart lock prompt appeared. I switched it on but unlocking the phone will require a 2 step process.
Smart lock doesn't seem to be in the menu either, so Samsung must of taken it out. I had to unpair my device to fix it.
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I use both just fine.
Somehow it won't work with my home wifi. Am I missing something?
The way I understand it smart lock keeps my phone unlocked even though a lock is enabled under custom circumstances? In my case I want it to be unlocked while connected to my home wifi.
What could be the issue here because even though I'm connected to my home wifi, when a lock is set I always have to unlock the phone.
I was wondering thoughts on this I have the phone and have noticed that I am still hitting the power button to double tap the notification to unlock the phone directly to the app (smart lock and on body/trusted place enabled) and not using the fingerprint sensor because it just unlocks phone. (To the home screen or last app left open). Don't get me wrong the fingerprint sensor is amazing.
When you double tap the notification, you can use the fingerprint scanner instead of putting you pattern or pin in, even though it doesn't look like you have that option.
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When you double tap the notification, you can use the fingerprint scanner instead of putting you pattern or pin in, even though it doesn't look like you have that option.
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That's good to know thanks, but you still have to hit the power button if you have ambient display off.
I have a smart watch so smart unlock is always there. The problem is smart unlock goes into lock screen but finger print goes into home screen directly. I'm not sure if it's intentional to make more people use fingerprint.
I stopped using smartlock because of nexus imprint. Smart lock is kind of hit or miss anyways (at least on the original nexus 5) and nexus imprint is much more accurate and reliable.
Also, of your phone is lost or stolen, a criminal wont be able to unlock it by going to a trusted location or connecting to a trusted WiFi/Bluetooth source.
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I stopped using smartlock because of nexus imprint. Smart lock is kind of hit or miss anyways (at least on the original nexus 5) and nexus imprint is much more accurate and reliable.
Also, of your phone is lost or stolen, a criminal wont be able to unlock it by going to a trusted location or connecting to a trusted WiFi/Bluetooth source.
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I still use Smartlock with my car because its mounted and I can't get to the fingerprint scanner.
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Wait this thing has a power button? Lol I've have barely used the power button since I set up imprint on day 1
It just works so flawlessly (unless my finger is wet/moist) I pick up the phone and my natural finger position lands and bam it's like my phone was never in sleep mode. I ended up only setting up smart voice for the ok google function and disabled face unlock and on body detection, I never used trusted location, WiFi or Bluetooth to paranoid about losing my phone
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Always-on OK Google is awesome, but for some reason it only turns on the screen about half the time for me.
When it doesn't turn the screen on, it still listens and reacts to commands though, but without the screen on I can't see what it's doing so I still have to manually press the power button to turn on the screen to see the results, effectively defeating the purpose of having it always on (for hands-free operations).
Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Is there a solution?
Did you turn on Smart lock for OK google?
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Did you turn on Smart lock for OK google?
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I did turn on Smart Lock, with trusted devices, trusted places, trusted face and trusted voice enabled.
Yeah I see it... it seems a little buggy, but for me it *always* comes on if it is locked. Not so much when it is unlocked (just sleeping).
I set the screen to lock 5 seconds after screen sleeps.
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Yeah I see it... it seems a little buggy, but for me it *always* comes on if it is locked. Not so much when it is unlocked (just sleeping).
I set the screen to lock 5 seconds after screen sleeps.
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Thanks for the confirmation. Come to think of it I only started to notice this issue after I set the screen to lock 5 minutes after the screen sleeps. I'm now setting it to 1 minute instead to get a better compromise between OK-Google-ability and convenience of not having to unlock while I use the phone frequently.
Hopefully Google will come around to fix this obvious bug in the not-too-distant future too.
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Always-on OK Google is awesome, but for some reason it only turns on the screen about half the time for me.
When it doesn't turn the screen on, it still listens and reacts to commands though, but without the screen on I can't see what it's doing so I still have to manually press the power button to turn on the screen to see the results, effectively defeating the purpose of having it always on (for hands-free operations).
Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Is there a solution?
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do u have on tap enabled? cause I had the same issue and fixed it by disabling on tap.
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do u have on tap enabled? cause I had the same issue and fixed it by disabling on tap.
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Seems to help. But still inconsistent.
Noticed this today while a friend was messing with my phone while it was standing on the table locked.
He pressed the lock button, the screen showed up with the clock, wallpaper and stuff.
My phone has a pattern lock, so he was unable to access the main launcher screen. But he was able to pull the notification/status top bar and do stuff like change brightness, disable wifi and bluetooth and so on.
To me it does look like a security flaw. Is there any way I can block that?
Thanks everyone!
I see that. But when i try to open anything, my pin code is required. Do you have a screen lock pin set up?
Edit. Ok i see what u mean. Quick settings can be changed, but not the settings gear icon. That requires a pin. Huh!
This is bonkers! Some of these may even potentially involve more serious security concerns, but in any case there ought to be a way to turn off this access. I do not want to allow anyone to change my Wifi network, Bluetooth device, open a hotspot, use the flashlight or even change the volume while it is locked - especially since I can instantly unlock it myself with a fingerprint.
This is really crazy indeed. I hope Google fix this on the next Android release or even let the users decide if they want this or not. I really don't want to root my device because of this but I don't see another option right now.
i don't like that a potential thief can turn off DATA even though the phone is locked.
I think this was meant to make toggling wifi, Bluetooth, airplane mode, flashlight, do not disturb easily accessible.