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Buying a N1 for a UK user

Hey peeps,
Got some money to burn before the end of my tax year and have been keeping my eye on the phone market recently (boy has it been eventful with the passing of the MWC), and have decided i want a Nexus One.
Can i just get a few questions clear so i know it's defiantly the right choice (as i keep thinking i should wait for the *cough* iphone *cough* 4 *cough*):
1) Will the N1 get updates to Android first over other Android phones like the milestone and the Desire?
2) Will there be any issues with updates as i will be buying from the US for me in the UK?
3) If i have a problem with my N1 where do i go to get it fixed in the UK?
4) Is the N1 'always on'? (need to decide what data package to go for)
5) If i root the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
6) If i put the HTC Sense on the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
I can't think of any other major questions, but i am sure i will ask if i do
Paul

1) It will be faster than the milestone, but for the Desire we don't know yet. Anyway, it's not like features like this won't be ported the next day by the devs here
2) No problem.
3) Dunno, sorry
4) Well it can connected only on demand, but it's not how android is supposed to be used I guess.
5) Not so far, and at worse you'll have to wait (not long) for unofficial updates
6) You'll have to use the updates found here. The OS won't be 100% identical to the Desire, so no official updates will work. Applications updates from the market work us usual though.

Thanks Blimblim
with regards to No.4, i asked cus someone told me that the iphone is always on, so if it hasn't found a wifi network to connect to it uses GPRS or 3G which could get costly if i'm out and about
With No.6 I think i might leave it as stock if it may cause problems/inconveniences. (but i might change my mind when i get it )

3) It'll go to HTC UK who are based in Milton Keynes.
4) You can turn data on and off as you please with the 'Toggle Data' widget.

sir.chunk said:
1) Will the N1 get updates to Android first over other Android phones like the milestone and the Desire? More than likely, as the updates will come straight from Google
2) Will there be any issues with updates as i will be buying from the US for me in the UK? No
3) If i have a problem with my N1 where do i go to get it fixed in the UK? Phone gets sent off to HTC in Milton Keynes
4) Is the N1 'always on'? (need to decide what data package to go for) Yes, although you can disable mobile data with APNDroid, which was fine for me till I sorted a dataplan
5) If i root the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates? Only if you load a custom ROM
6) If i put the HTC Sense on the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates? Yes, as it's a custom ROM, not that the devs wont include the updates themselves though.
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Hope that gibberish helps

sir.chunk said:
Hey peeps,
Got some money to burn before the end of my tax year and have been keeping my eye on the phone market recently (boy has it been eventful with the passing of the MWC), and have decided i want a Nexus One.
Can i just get a few questions clear so i know it's defiantly the right choice (as i keep thinking i should wait for the *cough* iphone *cough* 4 *cough*):
1) Will the N1 get updates to Android first over other Android phones like the milestone and the Desire?
2) Will there be any issues with updates as i will be buying from the US for me in the UK?
3) If i have a problem with my N1 where do i go to get it fixed in the UK?
4) Is the N1 'always on'? (need to decide what data package to go for)
5) If i root the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
6) If i put the HTC Sense on the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
I can't think of any other major questions, but i am sure i will ask if i do
Paul
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I'm from uk and have an N1
1) Update was prompted to me the moment the wizard setup up wifi (by establishing my google accounts) upon startup
2) None so far. Be aware navigation will only work at present if you root your phone (iphone equivalent of jailbreaking). Google are working on a european version, i chose to wait. And then there is an intermittent sync error with Picasa web albums directly onto the phone, though you can still access the web version in your browser in seconds [EDIT - this will be resolved by updates according to Google forums]
3) A problem with software would be to contact Google. Hardware would require HTC's uk based team.
4) You can chose to not have data roaming, chose to not update any widgets should you wish. For your information i'm on O2 simplicity at £20 a month, 800 minutes, 1600 texts and unlimited internet and have had no problems. Advice if you'r unsure would be to buy the paid version of the Taskiller app, it can be selected to automatically close background apps and therefore stop unnecessary data.
5) Not rooted mine. Chose not to do mine as i'm new to Android it's still much more customizable than iphone and Winmo so i'm a happy user with current abilities. I will pursue rooting if Google do not update a sat nav app for uk in the next few months. There are plenty of youtube videos around to show you how with forum advice.
6) Again, there are plenty of youtube videos with the 2.1 Desire new Rom working on the N1 successfully. No visual performance issues fromt he ones i've seen and everything looks as it should.
Hope i've been of some help.
Regards
Scott

oooooo, this is all very exciting! Thanks everyone for the info.
Didn't know HTC had a centre in MK - WINNER!
I think i will leave putting HTC sense on for now. I did it with the X1 and liked it, but that's only cus what SE had to being with was about as much use as a chocolate tea pot! lol
Out of interest, what data plan have you gone for with vodafone UK?
I see they are now offering on their sim only plans a 1gb data plan.

1 more thing, you may need to establish the APN's for MMS and web for your Network but these can easily be Google'd...

scottyj17 said:
1 more thing, you may need to establish the APN's for MMS and web for your Network but these can easily be Google'd...
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Noted! Thanks scotty

Using Nexus One in the UK on o2 with no problems what so ever, everything working as should.
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81

philaldred said:
Using Nexus One in the UK on o2 with no problems what so ever, everything working as should.
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81
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Really? Mine was £59 Did you get a UK charger with yours?
Also, to the OP, you really should get an unlimited data plan. They are pretty standard now, even on PAYG, and you are not gonna get anywhere near as much out of the phone without one.

philaldred said:
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81
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That sounds like a mistake to me, even with the charger it shouldn't be much over £60.
Mine was £59.21 (no charger)
Have they stiffed you for duty by any chance? That should be zero.

philaldred said:
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81
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If DHL try to shaft you for the duty charge, phone them up and demand it taken off your bill. UK customs state that mobile phones and PDAs have 0% duty fee. They put a 5% duty on mine, so I called them up. The lines are always busy, but as soon as I got through it was only a 2 mins affair. They have to recalculate the VAT and other charges so they'll send you a new updated bill in about a week or so.

Hey guys, what was the total cost in £'s if you don't mind me asking (phone, Duty?, VAT)?
Also, would you think when Vodafone release it in the UK, will it be different to the one from Google direct?
@3Shirts - Vodafone don't do unlimited data, just 500mb or 1Gb

guys dont forget quidco as well £100 for a symplicity o2 tarrif and £100 for vf one as well

Vodafone unltd data limit sucks
sir.chunk said:
Hey guys, what was the total cost in £'s if you don't mind me asking (phone, Duty?, VAT)?
Also, would you think when Vodafone release it in the UK, will it be different to the one from Google direct?
@3Shirts - Vodafone don't do unlimited data, just 500mb or 1Gb
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Guys I'm using my N1 on vodafone uk too but hate that i get the 500mb so called unlimited data on my 18 month pay monthly plan (came with my contracted crappy N97)! They give iPhone users 1gig!! N other networks put out 1 gig too...why this unfairness??

sir.chunk said:
Hey guys, what was the total cost in £'s if you don't mind me asking (phone, Duty?, VAT)?
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£412.41 all in, no charger as it's a rip-off!

Rusty! said:
£412.41 all in, no charger as it's a rip-off!
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Hey Rusty, thanks for that.
How come the charger is a rip off, and what have you gone for instead?

Rusty! said:
£412.41 all in, no charger as it's a rip-off!
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Thanks for the info. I've been considering the N1 replaced for my HD2, really want to try android. How long did it take for the N1 to be in your hand after despatch?

Ordered at 17:15 on Tues day evening, retried order at 17:45 due to HSBC fraud prevention.
Phone in hand about 13:30 on the Friday.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 7.7 3G/4G Wifi Inernatinal Version

Okay guys,,,,,
Here's the deal I purchased this version of the 7.7
https://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-SamsungP6800Silver
I only paid $545 for it on ebay. Will tmoible's 3G work on this thing. I know that AT&T 3G works. Funny thing is I put my SIM Card into it and it worked great. Even made calls that were clear to hear via my bluetooth headset. I logged onto AT&T with my home computer and it showed as an unsuportted device so I chose the $15 non-smartphone unlimtted data feature and it worked for a day or 2. Now this morning I got a message .... a text message and an email stating I need to purchase a data plan for tablet or broadband device. I quickly put the sim card back into my old LG C550 flip phone which has media net and sports etc.. a non smart phone.
Question: Can they do this?
Question: How do they know its a tablet if these are internatinal versions.
Question: How can they opt to change your data feature
Question: Why do I need to purchase a data plan even when I didn't get a subsidized device. If I'd known that before I would just opt for an AT&T device.
hmmmmm.. .Makes me think about cancelling my service with AT&T when my contract ends in a few months....
Please help me out here.

1) Of course they can do this. It is their network - they make the rules.
2) Domestic or international - all devices identify themselves the same way. They know it is a P6800. They have obviously updated their tables of what is a tablet...
3) See 1)
4) See 1)
I recommend get a provider that serves your area, but has less rules. T-mobile is great, but pretty poor coverage. At least they let you use any compatible device and don't force you to buy a data plan with prepaid service. ATT and Verizon are similar to each other, but at least ATT does not cripple features.

Just seems odd.....
It seems odd.... My daughter has been using the Tmobile Samsung Vibrant (It has AT&T 3G bands in my area) for 2 years on AT&T with the unlimitted non smartphone rate of $15 per month and has never received any message about getting a data plan for smartphones. That is why I asked the question. Isn't the vibrant the same as the captivate with the differecne in the bands that work...... This just seems a bit strange.......... ARGGGG... Maybe I should have just looked for the wi-fi only model. .. too late for me becuase the seller charges a 15% restocking fee... besides I did get a good deal on it.

You point out one of the advantages in GSM phones. There are a variety of carriers that support GSM, and allow devices not their own on their network. AT&T is good about that. It gives you some choice. As far as I know, Verizon only accepts devices sold by them.

Just wondering
I was just wondering. It still seems odd. Think i will just cancel the service when the term expires in a few months. The first snafu was when they merged my accounts .. the rep told me we woudld keep the $30 unlimitted plan on my wife's iphone but when i merged the accounts the option was gone and they refused to get it back..... anyway..i am just venting... That is the power of the consumer.. if you dont' like it take my money somewhere else. only pitfall is in my area AT&T has good serivce.

Yes..you did get a super good deal..
I clicked on your link and saw 680 something price.
Cheaper still is Negri at 630 something..
good.job on price stopping...
Can you post an ebay link to that price?
thanksstopping

Here is the link $545..
jimmbomb said:
Yes..you did get a super good deal..
I clicked on your link and saw 680 something price.
Cheaper still is Negri at 630 something..
good.job on price stopping...
Can you post an ebay link to that price?
thanksstopping
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Here is the link $545 you may be able to make a best offer on a few of the seller's other item. Don't know how they do it but it shipped to me really fast..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160709304834?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
also you can try this seller. My buddy at work got his from here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SAMSUNG...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item2ebb38feeb
That's all he had left. I don't see the one I got. but if you check the feedback you will see its legit.

The 7.0 Plus $Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Gal...plus+3g&_pcatid=839&_pcategid=58058&_from=R40

You list one from Australia and one from the UK. Did either you or your friend get hit with Customs charges? That can make a real difference in price.
The Hong Kong merchants seem to be very creative at avoiding Customs charges (they lie).

No customs
I got mine for Austriala.. .didn't have any customs fees. The one from hong kong had no customs fees. it was listed as a photo frame on the form. so there was no custom import fee..

alynch75 said:
Okay guys,,,,,
Here's the deal I purchased this version of the 7.7
https://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-SamsungP6800Silver
I only paid $545 for it on ebay. Will tmoible's 3G work on this thing. I know that AT&T 3G works. Funny thing is I put my SIM Card into it and it worked great. Even made calls that were clear to hear via my bluetooth headset. I logged onto AT&T with my home computer and it showed as an unsuportted device so I chose the $15 non-smartphone unlimtted data feature and it worked for a day or 2. Now this morning I got a message .... a text message and an email stating I need to purchase a data plan for tablet or broadband device. I quickly put the sim card back into my old LG C550 flip phone which has media net and sports etc.. a non smart phone.
Question: Can they do this?
Question: How do they know its a tablet if these are internatinal versions.
Question: How can they opt to change your data feature
Question: Why do I need to purchase a data plan even when I didn't get a subsidized device. If I'd known that before I would just opt for an AT&T device.
hmmmmm.. .Makes me think about cancelling my service with AT&T when my contract ends in a few months....
Please help me out here.
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so, nobody got confused here? am I the only one?
1st of all your title said that you had the 3g/wifi version, and you gave the link for it, meanwhile, you get it a lot cheaper on ebay, which kinda tempting me to get one
i go through on all your link, the one you get yours ($545) and the one your friend get, and both of them are wifi only, yet you stated that you put in your sim card, and you get 3g on AT&T?
are you under prescription or something?
and there's the 3rd link about 7.0 plus aka P6200 which confused me even more, about what's the point of that link you gave? duh

Wow My apologies
Justin^Tan said:
so, nobody got confused here? am I the only one?
1st of all your title said that you had the 3g/wifi version, and you gave the link for it, meanwhile, you get it a lot cheaper on ebay, which kinda tempting me to get one
i go through on all your link, the one you get yours ($545) and the one your friend get, and both of them are wifi only, yet you stated that you put in your sim card, and you get 3g on AT&T?
are you under prescription or something?
and there's the 3rd link about 7.0 plus aka P6200 which confused me even more, about what's the point of that link you gave? duh
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I assure you I have the 3G international version. I will post a copy of my receipt. My apologies for the incorrect link. I will get it and post it shortly. I can't find the link however as one of the posters replied negri has it on sale. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know but it works and I stand by my posts. Do you need me to post videos or photos of me inserting the SIM card and getting the AT&T 3G and of me making a phone call. I can do that. The intention of my initial post was not to post a deal....it was simply a few questions I had about the device and AT&T practices. There are many other sources where you can obtain price cuts and deals just search with GOOGLE. On anohter note.....AMAZON has a few sellers who sell the item. There are 4 or 5 online and or local stores located in New York City also. I hope this helps. If I come across a good deal froma reputatble seller I will post it.

nah, no need. since you already admit that it was wrong link you posted
I just had a glimpse of hope of getting tab 7.7 for quite cheap like you did, but I did need 3g, not wifi only ^^
I dont live in NYC so local store is out of question for me
They did release it in my country but its the 32gb version and pretty expensive I'd say (around $820)
Whilst i already have 32gb micro sd so I think 16gb version is enough

alynch75 said:
I assure you I have the 3G international version. I will post a copy of my receipt. My apologies for the incorrect link. I will get it and post it shortly. I can't find the link however as one of the posters replied negri has it on sale. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know but it works and I stand by my posts. Do you need me to post videos or photos of me inserting the SIM card and getting the AT&T 3G and of me making a phone call. I can do that. The intention of my initial post was not to post a deal....it was simply a few questions I had about the device and AT&T practices. There are many other sources where you can obtain price cuts and deals just search with GOOGLE. On anohter note.....AMAZON has a few sellers who sell the item. There are 4 or 5 online and or local stores located in New York City also. I hope this helps. If I come across a good deal froma reputatble seller I will post it.
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I am curious...
Your first post, you said you paid 545 for thr 3G version....
but incorrectly inserted the wrong links..
Then a few post later.. you said yes indeed you got the 3g version for 545 again... and posted another link or 2...
Both these links showed Wi-Fi versions only..
Im curious as to a correct link to your 545 dollar 3g version...
thanks for making this happen.....
Id like to recommend your seller to another person...
IF you can supply a link to the 3g version at $545...
thanks.... Jim

I got lucky
jimmbomb said:
I am curious...
Your first post, you said you paid 545 for thr 3G version....
but incorrectly inserted the wrong links..
Then a few post later.. you said yes indeed you got the 3g version for 545 again... and posted another link or 2...
Both these links showed Wi-Fi versions only..
Im curious as to a correct link to your 545 dollar 3g version...
thanks for making this happen.....
Id like to recommend your seller to another person...
IF you can supply a link to the 3g version at $545...
thanks.... Jim
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I posted the link however as stated it was an incorrect link. I think I may have just got lucky and the seller sent me a 3G version or maybe the seller had the wrong decription either way... I am glad I got a deal. I don't know what else to tell you. You could possilby wait a few months and anticipate the price dropping due to all the new devices slated to hit the scene. As many of us know playing the waiting game for prices or next generation hardware is futile. I'd say..... buy the best you can get for the price you can pay and use the device the way you want. I find it is often pointless to wish for the stars knowing you don't want to part with your hard earned cash. So its either pay up or just play the waiting game. I don't mean to sound sarcastic but I have been getting private messages from people blasting me about the link I posted and how I need to hurry up and post the correct link. I posted the link that I used to get the device..... "Maybe the seller botched up and sent me the wrong item""" Good for me I guess ............ In any event I'd say stick with what you can afford and if not just don't buy anything .........

You can try this one.. very good
Yes its $645 but you do get it overnight from overseas to USA>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280803711139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Official USA Thread for S3

Thought I would start a thread for those of us in the US who have unique situations with International Devices.
The first issue many will have on MediNet, or one of the many pay as you go services like Straight Talk will be the Micro SIM. We are currently using the full sized SIMS in our S2s and Notes.
I am guessing along with the usual APN setting questions we will be getting suggestions on where to buy SIM cutters.....

Cutters are available on ebay, amazon etc. I had some sent from the latter and prices I saw ranged from a few bucks up to 10. There are many DIY videos showing the process which is in any event very straight forward.

Question
If I am moving from a HTC One X with 4G LTE set up on the SIM card, will I have to use custom APN settings for the HSPA+ to work right? I'm pretty sure it will work fine as is, but I'm not sure if the SIM is set up with APN settings optimized for 4G LTE already.

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If I am moving from a HTC One X with 4G LTE set up on the SIM card, will I have to use custom APN settings for the HSPA+ to work right? I'm pretty sure it will work fine as is, but I'm not sure if the SIM is set up with APN settings optimized for 4G LTE already.
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I think when you call ATT you can ask to be provisioned for whatever service you will be wanting to use. OTHER THAN MEDIANET as with the above provisions you can tell ATT exactly what phone you have and they will register you on the network and I think set your VPN for you.
When using MediaNet you can give them your IMEI whcih I did on all three of our International phones and in my case I told them I did not want to pay $25 for data I would not need on the phone I bought off Ebay, THEY OFFERED mediaNet and and "reluctantly" took the $10 UL plan,
I found the settings here but I also found an app called APN Manager Pro which has APNs from all over the world. I just selected Cingular 410. I have tried some other settings as well. they all work fine.

I really hope Samsung sells the international version here in the US.

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I really hope Samsung sells the international version here in the US.
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They always have. New Egg had them as well as Amazon. However I have not purchased a new International phone yet as warranties can be suspect. I immediately would void them anyway so I usually wait and buy used. May times already rooted. So far so good. Patience pays off in many ways.
1. Savings. I have saved over $600 buying used.
2. By the time used ones hit development is well on it's way to perfection.
3. Launch issues are observed and taken care of.
4. Resale is still a good market for older devices.
5. No need to upgrade until a worthy phone to SELL is released. (In this case I will user our upgrades for a couple iPhone 5s if it turns out to be a hot seller)

tbong777 said:
I think when you call ATT you can ask to be provisioned for whatever service you will be wanting to use. OTHER THAN MEDIANET as with the above provisions you can tell ATT exactly what phone you have and they will register you on the network and I think set your VPN for you.
When using MediaNet you can give them your IMEI whcih I did on all three of our International phones and in my case I told them I did not want to pay $25 for data I would not need on the phone I bought off Ebay, THEY OFFERED mediaNet and and "reluctantly" took the $10 UL plan,
I found the settings here but I also found an app called APN Manager Pro which has APNs from all over the world. I just selected Cingular 410. I have tried some other settings as well. they all work fine.
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I don't really want ATT to know I'm using a SGS3. I'm sure we'll figure out the best APN settings later or with a little research someone probably has them up somewhere. Thanks anyways.

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I don't really want ATT to know I'm using a SGS3. I'm sure we'll figure out the best APN settings later or with a little research someone probably has them up somewhere. Thanks anyways.
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ATT won't know even if you give them your IMEI. Just don't tell them you are using a smart phone UNLESS you want to be provisioned for the smart phone higher speeds. ATT has all three of our International phone IMEI numbers. They show up as clam shell phones on my account site.
Our phones are on the dumb phone plan (MediaNet UL data) I max out at 3mps Up. But it has been good enough for YouTube streaming and more than ample for music streaming.
The APN I use on them is
Name: Cingular 410
APN: wap.cingular
User Name: [email protected]
Server: cingulargprs.com
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com/
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MCC: 310
MNC:410
APN Type: internet + mms
The rest is blank

tbong777 said:
ATT won't know even if you give them your IMEI. Just don't tell them you are using a smart phone UNLESS you want to be provisioned for the smart phone higher speeds. ATT has all three of our International phone IMEI numbers. They show up as clam shell phones on my account site.
Our phones are on the dumb phone plan (MediaNet UL data) I max out at 3mps Up. But it has been good enough for YouTube streaming and more than ample for music streaming.
The APN I use on them is
Name: Cingular 410
APN: wap.cingular
User Name: [email protected]
Server: cingulargprs.com
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com/
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MCC: 310
MNC:410
APN Type: internet + mms
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Oh, im coming from a smartphone plan amyways as i am using a htc one x right now. I share a family plan with my whole family so it's cheap for us.
Thats why I'm asking for my scenario if i will need apn settings or the current one on my htc one x micro sim will transfer fine.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Didn't have any problems with using the 9100 with AT&T so probably won't have issues with the 9300.

tbong777 said:
They always have. New Egg had them as well as Amazon. However I have not purchased a new International phone yet as warranties can be suspect. I immediately would void them anyway so I usually wait and buy used. May times already rooted. So far so good. Patience pays off in many ways.
1. Savings. I have saved over $600 buying used.
2. By the time used ones hit development is well on it's way to perfection.
3. Launch issues are observed and taken care of.
4. Resale is still a good market for older devices.
5. No need to upgrade until a worthy phone to SELL is released. (In this case I will user our upgrades for a couple iPhone 5s if it turns out to be a hot seller)
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Yes and No
Those are still international devices with no warranty on US soil
I wish they actually sold unbranded phones in US properly

ph00ny said:
Yes and No
Those are still international devices with no warranty on US soil
I wish they actually sold unbranded phones in US properly
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When I called Expansys USA, they said we get 1 year warranty with the manufacturer. We just have to send it to Samsung. I don't think it matters where you are you get the warranty as long as you don't do anything that breaks it.

SlimJ87D said:
When I called Expansys USA, they said we get 1 year warranty with the manufacturer. We just have to send it to Samsung. I don't think it matters where you are you get the warranty as long as you don't do anything that breaks it.
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Samsung USA actually said no warranty on international devices when i asked

SlimJ87D said:
When I called Expansys USA, they said we get 1 year warranty with the manufacturer. We just have to send it to Samsung. I don't think it matters where you are you get the warranty as long as you don't do anything that breaks it.
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One of the reasons I prefer used phones is they have been broken in and little chance for a DOA. I don't expect to use a warranty on a device I void in the first week by rooting. I don't think its right people screw up their devices then blame Samsung's workmanship and claim warranty service raising the costs of the devices as well as forcing the company to maybe inset some erroneous code to prevent fraudulent warranty claims.
Its a risk worth taking and I have saved enough financially not buying new to practically get a new S3 "free" .

ph00ny said:
Samsung USA actually said no warranty on international devices when i asked
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Yes, so you would have to send it to the right Samsung. Expansys I believe told me I could also send it to them and they would send it to Samsung for me.
I know we don't get a USA warranty, but we do have one. It's not that we don't have one at all.
EDIT:
Here is an example of how international warranty works with Expansys USA:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/ft.aspx?k=253502

SlimJ87D said:
Yes, so you would have to send it to the right Samsung. Expansys I believe told me I could also send it to them and they would send it to Samsung for me.
I know we don't get a USA warranty, but we do have one. It's not that we don't have one at all.
EDIT:
Here is an example of how international warranty works with Expansys USA:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/ft.aspx?k=253502
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One of the reasons I buy used is because a new phone offers no warranty advantage and could be DOA. Used devices by reputable sellers usually have been rooted well broken in. Any issues would have been resolved before a sale. I don't mind physical flaws to save a few hundred dollars for the same experience. I likely won't keep the phone more than a year anyway.
but it is nice to know Warrantys are available for US buyers as that would make the used market safer for those who buy from US sellers who may have used the warranty.

tbong777 said:
Thought I would start a thread for those of us in the US who have unique situations with International Devices.
The first issue many will have on MediNet, or one of the many pay as you go services like Straight Talk will be the Micro SIM. We are currently using the full sized SIMS in our S2s and Notes.
I am guessing along with the usual APN setting questions we will be getting suggestions on where to buy SIM cutters.....
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?
Switching to MicroSIM is so easy, not sure why you brought this thread up in the first place. Just go to ATT store to replace it. That's what I did for free (for the HOX before I sold it, then I put it on S3, easy).
APN settings can be found everywhere. Just search xda.

tbong777 said:
One of the reasons I prefer used phones is they have been broken in and little chance for a DOA. I don't expect to use a warranty on a device I void in the first week by rooting. I don't think its right people screw up their devices then blame Samsung's workmanship and claim warranty service raising the costs of the devices as well as forcing the company to maybe inset some erroneous code to prevent fraudulent warranty claims.
Its a risk worth taking and I have saved enough financially not buying new to practically get a new S3 "free" .
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I hear you. But don't you have to wait a long time (~1 year) for the phone to hit the used market at a low enough price? I can imagine the GS3 used will still be well over $600 for a long time to come.

samven582 said:
I really hope Samsung sells the international version here in the US.
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They can't sell directly because of the contracts with carriers. The carriers will be super piss'd if they do that. (damn useless controlling carriers)
There is always option to buy thru negri, expansys, newegg, amazon and various other sites. The only caveat is Samsung USA doesn't provide warranty for imported devices. For me it doesn't matter since I change devices frequently and don't care. But if you want warranty some of online sellers provide it thru their european counterparts or you have option to buy warranty from square trade or similar services.

Theres a rumor/inside info that Sprints getting the Exynos5(5250)posted in another forum. The guy that posted it has been very reliable. Just a heads up

Google Play store -Nexus purchase

I'll keep this really short
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb&hl=en
Im from India and clicking on the above link gives the error
"Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet.
We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible.
Please check back again soon."
As expected since im from India
The Nexus 4 has launched and will bew going on sale for $350 for the Unlocked 16GB version of the phone
What i intend on doing is order the phone off the Play Store for my Dad who is based in US so that he can then ship it to India
He is always busy at work so is there any work around on how i can make that link useable in India to the order it
Proxy maybe ?
Oh and payment for Device can be done without a Paypal ? As my dad should have a Credit card
Thanks for the help
I was thinking of using a Proxy, but is it safe for shopping ??
Oh and can someone please explain to me the means to order it, Credit card/google wallet/ payapal ?

I wouldn't order some anything with a credit card over a proxy, they're insecure.

Sorry, there really is no other way. Until and unless Google opens up the Play store and sells the Nexus in India, you cannot go through the checkout process from India. The billing and shipping address are required to be the same, in which case it needs to be based in the US.

Damn :/
Thing is i only need to do the browsing
AS iwill be using my dads credit card or any other means of payment
All i need to know is payment options
Thanks

Just have your dad set up teamviewer and send you his passcode ( 1 minute of less ).
Then when he is away from the pc for more than 5 minutes you can browse google play website and order using your dad pc through your pc with the help of teamviewer.

Ohk so you want your dad to send it to you.
What you can do is give him this link http://www.google.com/nexus/4/
and tell him to press "SHOP NOW"
hope that solved your problem

ill do the team view thing
Will a VISA Credit/ Debit card work ? Or do i need google wallet ?

Credit card must work.

Your are going to use a USA card.
The card's location of issue must be the same as the addressing location. Not sure how exactly it works or if there are any work arounds.
Use Google.com

The specs are amazing and i just love Android.Unfortunately for reasons unknown Google is not so keen on launching their Nexus phones in India . It was true for the Galaxy Nexus and i don't think that Google has any plans of launching this one in India. My brother who stays in US will be coming home for Christmas and i will ask him to get the 16 GB version which will cost just 18,500 INR (approx)...... that's almost the price i had paid to get my Motorola Defy a year ago .Are there any limitations of using this phone in India...i read somewhere that the phone will have a built in battery ? is that true ? If yes....is it possible to change the battery if i have any issues with the existing one or once the stock battery dies out.

Regardless of area availability, you linked to a discontinued product . They aren't selling the 8GB version anywhere anymore

@southpaw said:
The specs are amazing and i just love Android.Unfortunately for reasons unknown Google is not so keen on launching their Nexus phones in India . It was true for the Galaxy Nexus and i don't think that Google has any plans of launching this one in India. My brother who stays in US will be coming home for Christmas and i will ask him to get the 16 GB version which will cost just 18,500 INR (approx)...... that's almost the price i had paid to get my Motorola Defy a year ago .Are there any limitations of using this phone in India...i read somewhere that the phone will have a built in battery ? is that true ? If yes....is it possible to change the battery if i have any issues with the existing one or once the stock battery dies out.
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We will not know until someone gets their hands on the phone and does a tear down of it.

@southpaw said:
The specs are amazing and i just love Android.Unfortunately for reasons unknown Google is not so keen on launching their Nexus phones in India . It was true for the Galaxy Nexus and i don't think that Google has any plans of launching this one in India. My brother who stays in US will be coming home for Christmas and i will ask him to get the 16 GB version which will cost just 18,500 INR (approx)...... that's almost the price i had paid to get my Motorola Defy a year ago .Are there any limitations of using this phone in India...i read somewhere that the phone will have a built in battery ? is that true ? If yes....is it possible to change the battery if i have any issues with the existing one or once the stock battery dies out.
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You are totally wrong. LG has an official statement released that they will be very much launching a NX4 in India. Heck even Google said it is coming to 200 countries. So no way they have missed India.
I too am from India and am desperately waiting for it to show up on the Play Store.

It will only be available from Google in the US, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Spain and Australia.
All other places will have to buy it through local retailers/phone providers, where it will probably be significantly more expensive.

FISKER_Q said:
It will only be available from Google in the US, UK, Canada, Germany, France, Spain and Australia.
All other places will have to buy it through local retailers/phone providers, where it will probably be significantly more expensive.
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Hmmm..that was my fear. But I'm gonna try to get it from the US...
Sent from my RaZr HD.

How fast will the N4 be on amazon!?
I am in Costa Rica, i cannot buy from play store either. I need an US bank account.
I am sitting on my laptop watching the moment to hit that buy now button! :victory:

Nexus 4 micro sd???
Hi guys, i didnt see it anywhere, but will the nexus 4 have the micro sd memory option ? tnx, i"m getting one anyways...

NEO/rushER said:
Hi guys, i didnt see it anywhere, but will the nexus 4 have the micro sd memory option ? tnx, i"m getting one anyways...
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No microsd.
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oh well...
Oh well then, i must get the 16 gb version is there a way maybe to get it as soon as possible even if your not in usa, because im in Slovenia...

say thanks to spotflux guys
use Spotflux, (www[dot]spotflux[dot]com) a free and safe vpn service.
u will be able to use your internet as if you are in america. thats it. keep simple.

Issues while Buying Nexus 7 2013 LTE from US Play store

Hi,
I placed an order for Nexus 7 2013 LTE to a valid address in US and Order got cancelled..
The story so far:
1. I tried ordering from normal playstore and i am redirected to Indian Playstore (pretty logical from Google since i live in Bangalore, India).
2. I spoofed my IP by going over VPN (Hotspot, Ultrasurf) Google got me there again saying It is not available for my country !!!.
It tracks my activity rather than IP address.
Created a new account and still get the same treatment (not sure how Google got me there. could be that Hotspot, Ultrasurf are blacklisted or something).
3. Went to my office VPN and tried placing order with a new account ( Google could not catch me here and i got proceeded to order)
4. Order Placed, money deducted from my credit card, got order conformation from Google. (yay ! -----> happiness short-lived bitterly)
5. 2 minutes later my order gets cancelled saying my name on credit card and recipient name does not match (!) and bank address does not match recipient address ( I mean cmon, i am ordering for my aunt staying in US. Google what you should be concerned is getting the money of course and not the person who is ordering it. I did not want my aunt to be burdened with the process of placing an order an all. Just wanted her to receive.)
6. Looked into BestBuy as new stock of LTE have arrived. Says carrier is AT&T ( Dont want AT&T since i stay in India).
7. Amazon has some seller selling at 500+ dollar ( Dont want to buy from him at that price of course)
8. Ebay is overpriced at the moment (both India and US (got paypal account for that))
So now I do not know what is the next possible step i need to take.
Can someone suggest me some way i could get this ?
If anyone has gone through the same, can you help me out if you have found a way to buy the same.
Link for Bestbuy: Nexus 7 2013 32GB LTE Unlocked - AT&T Sim
Update 1 (8/10/2013 - 10:27 AM): Checked with Bestbuy and they said that it is the unlocked version with AT&T sim. So i went ahead with best buy and ordered the product. I will discarding the sim once i get it to india.
BestBuy also throws in some free goodies like 6 months of Antivirus and 6 months unlimited Cloud Storage.
It has also given this model for a cheaper final price than Google Play Store. I got charged with lesser tax than what is normally charged by Google.
Update 2 (08/10/2013 - 10:30 PM): : My order status has changed from Order Received --> Payment Validated --> Preparing Order.
Order Status:: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 3 - 5 days. :fingers-crossed: to get it early.
Update 3 (08/10/2013 - 11:55 PM): Order Status:: 1 item(s) shipped via STANDARD on 10/08/13 via
Tracking Number: UPS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Update 4 (14/10/2013 - 5:15 PM): Shipment reached destination As mentioned as 5 days.

maximus_vk said:
Hi,
I placed an order for Nexus 7 2013 LTE to a valid address in US and Order got cancelled..
The story so far:
1. I tried ordering from normal playstore and i am redirected to Indian Playstore (pretty logical from Google since i live in Bangalore, India).
2. I spoofed my IP by going over VPN (Hotspot, Ultrasurf) Google got me there again saying It is not available for my country !!!.
It tracks my activity rather than IP address.
Created a new account and still get the same treatment (not sure how Google got me there. could be that Hotspot, Ultrasurf are blacklisted or something).
3. Went to my office VPN and tried placing order with a new account ( Google could not catch me here and i got proceeded to order)
4. Order Placed, money deducted from my credit card, got order conformation from Google. (yay ! -----> happiness short-lived bitterly)
5. 2 minutes later my order gets cancelled saying my name on credit card and recipient name does not match (!) and bank address does not match recipient address ( I mean cmon, i am ordering for my aunt staying in US. Google what you should be concerned is getting the money of course and not the person who is ordering it. I did not want my aunt to be burdened with the process of placing an order an all. Just wanted her to receive.)
6. Looked into BestBuy as new stock of LTE have arrived. Says carrier is AT&T ( Dont want AT&T since i stay in India).
7. Amazon has some seller selling at 500+ dollar ( Dont want to buy from him at that price of course)
8. Ebay is overpriced at the moment (both India and US (got paypal account for that))
So now I do not know what is the next possible step i need to take.
Can someone suggest me some way i could get this ?
If anyone has gone through the same, can you help me out if you have found a way to buy the same.
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There is Nexus 7 Indian thread for 2012 or u can also check nexus 4 Indian thread ,It has mentioned steps how to buy from USA play store, also try to buy from adorama or BH photo ,There's are US based famous websites, I bought 3 Nexus 7 from BH photo for less price than official price ...because even I faced these issue when I tried to buy now its blocked my a/c .
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H4CK_H0PP3R said:
There is Nexus 7 Indian thread for 2012 or u can also check nexus 4 Indian thread ,It has mentioned steps how to buy from USA play store, also try to buy from adorama or BH photo ,There's are US based famous websites, I bought 3 Nexus 7 from BH photo for less price than official price ...because even I faced these issue when I tried to buy now its blocked my a/c .
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I have seen that thread. It mentions about the wifi versions and not the LTE one. checked the adorama and it looks good but there is not much information or pictures of the same. so i am a bit skeptical to proceed. BH photo does not have LTE.
I am looking for 2013 version. 2012 3G is available on flipkart but dont want that.

Method will work on any model as u just wants to buy from play store ,Do one thing mail to that particular website or have chat with them & ask them when they will be in stock , & they will list it on there websites. Did you tried office max ? Or ask borderlines to order they will buy for u but some bucks you will needed to pay them ...
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maximus_vk said:
Hi,
5. 2 minutes later my order gets cancelled saying my name on credit card and recipient name does not match (!) and bank address does not match recipient address ( I mean cmon, i am ordering for my aunt staying in US. Google what you should be concerned is getting the money of course and not the person who is ordering it. I did not want my aunt to be burdened with the process of placing an order an all. Just wanted her to receive.)
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This is a pretty standard anti-fraud measure.

hyperspacey said:
This is a pretty standard anti-fraud measure.
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i was not aware of that. first time i am buying something from playstore.
H4CK_H0PP3R said:
There is Nexus 7 Indian thread for 2012 or u can also check nexus 4 Indian thread ,It has mentioned steps how to buy from USA play store, also try to buy from adorama or BH photo ,There's are US based famous websites, I bought 3 Nexus 7 from BH photo for less price than official price ...because even I faced these issue when I tried to buy now its blocked my a/c .
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Sorry i said i went through the Nexus 4 thread. Now that you mention it, there are like 1000+ pages
if you have a link of sort or even remember the page number (closest guesstimate) it will be really helpful
H4CK_H0PP3R said:
Method will work on any model as u just wants to buy from play store ,Do one thing mail to that particular website or have chat with them & ask them when they will be in stock , & they will list it on there websites. Did you tried office max ? Or ask borderlines to order they will buy for u but some bucks you will needed to pay them ...
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I really appreciate you giving me the store names i could look into, but since i am new to this procedure, kindly share me few more store names if possible.

maximus_vk said:
...
6. Looked into BestBuy as new stock of LTE have arrived. Says carrier is AT&T ( Dont want AT&T since i stay in India).
...
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Interesting. I found the LTE on the Best Buy website but not in stores. Almost all of the retail stores in the US do not stock the LTE. There may be some exceptions in a few well known stores like Fry's (unsure if stocking LTE) or some NYC retailers (B&H, etc).
For most US city locations the LTE model is simply not (yet) stocked in stores. In my opinion, depending on where you go in the US, the Best Buy option to ship to store in 3-5 days is best. Also, if you have some Best Buy coupons, etc, you might save some money.
Thanks for the info about Best Buy, I did not know until you mentioned it. Good luck.
It does not matter about AT&T or T-Mobile or neither because Google only tosses SIM card activation kit in the box. No other difference in the US.

maximus_vk said:
Hi,
I placed an order for Nexus 7 2013 LTE to a valid address in US and Order got cancelled..
The story so far:
1. I tried ordering from normal playstore and i am redirected to Indian Playstore (pretty logical from Google since i live in Bangalore, India).
2. I spoofed my IP by going over VPN (Hotspot, Ultrasurf) Google got me there again saying It is not available for my country !!!.
It tracks my activity rather than IP address.
Created a new account and still get the same treatment (not sure how Google got me there. could be that Hotspot, Ultrasurf are blacklisted or something).
3. Went to my office VPN and tried placing order with a new account ( Google could not catch me here and i got proceeded to order)
4. Order Placed, money deducted from my credit card, got order conformation from Google. (yay ! -----> happiness short-lived bitterly)
5. 2 minutes later my order gets cancelled saying my name on credit card and recipient name does not match (!) and bank address does not match recipient address ( I mean cmon, i am ordering for my aunt staying in US. Google what you should be concerned is getting the money of course and not the person who is ordering it. I did not want my aunt to be burdened with the process of placing an order an all. Just wanted her to receive.)
6. Looked into BestBuy as new stock of LTE have arrived. Says carrier is AT&T ( Dont want AT&T since i stay in India).
7. Amazon has some seller selling at 500+ dollar ( Dont want to buy from him at that price of course)
8. Ebay is overpriced at the moment (both India and US (got paypal account for that))
So now I do not know what is the next possible step i need to take.
Can someone suggest me some way i could get this ?
If anyone has gone through the same, can you help me out if you have found a way to buy the same.
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You can try ishopinternational.com they usually charge about 20 dollars more than the price, but your product is transit insured
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Bob Smith42 said:
...
In my opinion, depending on where you go in the US, the Best Buy option to ship to store in 3-5 days is best. Also, if you have some Best Buy coupons, etc, you might save some money.
...
It does not matter about AT&T or T-Mobile or neither because Google only tosses SIM card activation kit in the box. No other difference in the US.
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how is it better than sending directly to a home address?
So by your second point i can go ahead and order the same and i throw away the at&t/tmobile sim-kit is it? if i remove the sim, then it is the same as normal unlocked with support for any 3G/4G capable sim ?
Bob.. thanks to you i have got some hope :fingers-crossed:

Ordered my Nexus 7 2013 LTE --- from BestBuy
Good news:
i ordered my Nexus 7 2013 LTE from BestBuy for final price lower than Google playstore.
Here attached is the screenshot of the same.
Link : Nexus 7 2013 LTE 32GB
Anyone who wants it can go ahead and buy it. It is not available in Amazon yet.

maximus_vk said:
Good news:
i ordered my Nexus 7 2013 LTE from BestBuy for final price lower than Google playstore.
Here attached is the screenshot of the same.
Link : Nexus 7 2013 LTE 32GB
Anyone who wants it can go ahead and buy it. It is not available in Amazon yet.
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Nice to hear that , Congrats buddy, have an eye on there shipping status..
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---------- Post added at 08:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 AM ----------
BTW there was deal for 16 GB Nexus 7 2012 for 9999 on Flipcart.
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H4CK_H0PP3R said:
Nice to hear that , Congrats buddy, have an eye on there shipping status..
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Thanks for your support

maximus_vk said:
Hi,
I placed an order for Nexus 7 2013 LTE to a valid address in US and Order got cancelled..
The story so far:
1. I tried ordering from normal playstore and i am redirected to Indian Playstore (pretty logical from Google since i live in Bangalore, India).
2. I spoofed my IP by going over VPN (Hotspot, Ultrasurf) Google got me there again saying It is not available for my country !!!.
It tracks my activity rather than IP address.
Created a new account and still get the same treatment (not sure how Google got me there. could be that Hotspot, Ultrasurf are blacklisted or something).
3. Went to my office VPN and tried placing order with a new account ( Google could not catch me here and i got proceeded to order)
4. Order Placed, money deducted from my credit card, got order conformation from Google. (yay ! -----> happiness short-lived bitterly)
5. 2 minutes later my order gets cancelled saying my name on credit card and recipient name does not match (!) and bank address does not match recipient address ( I mean cmon, i am ordering for my aunt staying in US. Google what you should be concerned is getting the money of course and not the person who is ordering it. I did not want my aunt to be burdened with the process of placing an order an all. Just wanted her to receive.)
6. Looked into BestBuy as new stock of LTE have arrived. Says carrier is AT&T ( Dont want AT&T since i stay in India).
7. Amazon has some seller selling at 500+ dollar ( Dont want to buy from him at that price of course)
8. Ebay is overpriced at the moment (both India and US (got paypal account for that))
So now I do not know what is the next possible step i need to take.
Can someone suggest me some way i could get this ?
If anyone has gone through the same, can you help me out if you have found a way to buy the same.
Update: Checked with Bestbuy and they said that it is the unlocked version with AT&T sim. So i went ahead with best buy and ordered the product. I will discarding the sim once i get it to india.
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Please keep us posted on your delivery updates...

Update 2
arindamdas said:
Please keep us posted on your delivery updates...
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Update 2 (08/10/2013 - 10:30 PM):
My order status has changed from Order Received --> Payment Validated --> Preparing Order.
Order Status:: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 3 - 5 days. to get it early.

maximus_vk said:
Update 2 (08/10/2013 - 10:30 PM):
My order status has changed from Order Received --> Payment Validated --> Preparing Order.
Order Status:: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 3 - 5 days. to get it early.
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No big difference ordering for in store pickup or home delivery. The SIM brand makes no difference. Any micro SIM will work if the LTE bands are supported. You might research which bands exist in your area and which bands are supported by the device.
I've seen a thread discussing setting the LTE bands using "secret dialing codes". This would likely void your US warranty. I'm not sure if it could work.
I just noticed today - Best Buy in North Carolina now shows some stores with "in stock - in store" on LTE Nexus 7. I might stop to see if they have the ones with SIM card or not.
Good luck.

Update 3: Order Status:: 1 item(s) shipped via STANDARD on 10/08/13 via
Tracking Number: UPS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

Late update as i was on a holiday.
Product reached the destination after 5 working days.
Currently working fine. No glaring issues seen till date.

Working with Indian SIM? Also are there any branding marks? I am also planning to get one for myself.
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