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TMob VARIO II with Copilot

just wondering if anyone is using a VarioII with copilot and their experiences with it. I have ordered one from tmob on the standard £20 a month + with w&w but alas they are out of stock, so wondeing if i should cancel the order and get something else.
thanks

oac966 said:
just wondering if anyone is using a VarioII with copilot and their experiences with it. I have ordered one from tmob on the standard £20 a month + with w&w but alas they are out of stock, so wondeing if i should cancel the order and get something else.
thanks
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I used CoPilot with my old MDA Compact and it was great. I am waiting for my upgrade to come through to the VarioII. CP never got me lost, once.
Having studied the ALK website, there is only enhancements to the WM2003 version of CP - so can only be a good thing IMO. A lot will come down to personal choice however. The best for me is having a seperate Bluetooth GPS receiver so portability is fantastic.
You can always try out for a while and cancel if you've gone through web or telesales (you have 7 days).

Thanks for you reply. I can wait to get my hands on the device and try it all out, but Tmob seem to have no idea when it will come back into stock interestingly enough its still on their website and they are still taking orders. not sure why they would do such a silly thing.

oac966 said:
Thanks for you reply. I can wait to get my hands on the device and try it all out, but Tmob seem to have no idea when it will come back into stock interestingly enough its still on their website and they are still taking orders. not sure why they would do such a silly thing.
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I used to work for a network provider in the UK (O2) and its a simple case of making the numbers and worrying about delivery later.
I see you're based in the US, my comment re 7 day cool off period may not apply as its a UK based law as part of the Sale of Goods Act - you may want to check what your version is.
I don't have any experience of TMob over there at all. In the UK, I have found customer service to be excellent and if the phone is not in stock then its taken off the site.
I think you'll love it from my experience!

Sorry, newbie to this forum so still setting up profiles etc. but i am actually based in the Uk and have ordered it from the Tmob uk website so hopefully the 7 day period will apply + i think with their new street coverage you can also return the phone in 14 days if u find that the street coverages is not what u expected. (but i could be wrong.)

oac966 said:
Sorry, newbie to this forum so still setting up profiles etc. but i am actually based in the Uk and have ordered it from the Tmob uk website so hopefully the 7 day period will apply + i think with their new street coverage you can also return the phone in 14 days if u find that the street coverages is not what u expected. (but i could be wrong.)
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Spot on. Be aware though that any usage you incur (GSm/GPRS/3G) will be charged as normal.
UK customer services are great (in my opinion), i've only got good things to say about them.
let us know how you get on with CoPilot.

That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?

I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.

oac966 said:
That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
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the 34 is only for use for voice calls to UK mobile and land lines ( eg. no 0845 etc, ) UK text ( no premium ) mms and Voicemail.

shabba007 said:
I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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My advice would be to accept the package and ebay the CoPilot reciever and software as it retails at nearly £200 i think so you would make a fair chunk of money back or just phone telesales and i'm sure they would be able to help. As has been said before the customer service is excellent i'm very happy with my plain old Vario and CoPilot its excellent software

oac966 said:
That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
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Nope - Video calls are charged at 15ppm and are classed as outside the bundles - least that what I've got from the Tmob website. Probably best to have a scout round on their site - I found it in the faq section. Failing that check with CS folks.
MDA

shabba007 said:
I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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probably means that they are out of stock on those devices without the CoPilot bundle - speak to CS for advise.

i'm trying to get hold of an MDA compact 2 but the prices people pay on ebay are rediculous didnt realise they were so popular on their particularly the pink ones

What should I do?

i've been thinking of getting a Vogue for about $190 (is that a good price or can i get it cheaper?) so i can use Android. I currently have the Dare which sucks and its bugging out on me. I have been lurking and reading a lot of posts here to educate myself but i have a kind of network question...If and when i buy the Vogue i would have to upgrade my plan to include email and such on it which is an extra $15 a month, which adds up after a while. I can can talk the reps into not activating the email portion (yes they can do it and have before), but will the gmail app be usable on android??

Homeylarry said:
i've been thinking of getting a Vogue for about $190 (is that a good price or can i get it cheaper?) so i can use Android. I currently have the Dare which sucks and its bugging out on me. I have been lurking and reading a lot of posts here to educate myself but i have a kind of network question...If and when i buy the Vogue i would have to upgrade my plan to include email and such on it which is an extra $15 a month, which adds up after a while. I can can talk the reps into not activating the email portion (yes they can do it and have before), but will the gmail app be usable on android??
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Firstly, the HTC Vogue is currently going for about $50 bucks - whomever is selling you one for $190 is really REALLY liking your naivete
As for GMail app - its web based so you can access your mail as long as you have some data plan to access the internet
Detroit Doug

where can you find em for $50? (the verizon version)

I would say check ebay, but if you are planning on spending around $200 i say just wait a couple more days for the Diamond to come out.

not only best to wait and get your money worth, but also as long as your going to be getting a CDMA device dont worry about it being Sprint/Verizon or whomever, once unlocked you can use just about any service at worse you may have to install whats referred to as a carrier .cab (simple click, wait for install to complete, done)
Detroit Doug

for verizon
u can use the phone w/o data plan if u want. it is has numerous capabilities. if you need data you can add that as part of your plan. you can use texting plans also for texting. but if you want to send and recieve picts or flix you have to pay data. the verizon phones cases have a history of cracking. i guess the diamond is about to come out on verizon from the previous post. i would compare specs with the voque or "touch". the touch does not have wifi or g accelerator. the gps is locked on the touch by the verizon folks but the kind folks here and at ppg have ways around that.

so can i get full android functionality on the diamond?

Homeylarry said:
so can i get full android functionality on the diamond?
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I imagine you should be able to, I would research the Android threads as well as the Android help desk thread here and also review the diamond threads for anything related to Android first before making any purchases
Orignal Android was designed on the HTC Vogue, one of the reasons it came out and was ready to rock when it hit the forums as it did and just so your clear, Android is a linux shell, it wont replace the WinMO operating system, you just click on the haret.exe and it will boot up into a linux shell/os (unless there is a ROM out to flash the phone over to Android fully - I havent kept up on Android all that much to search for it LOL)
Detroit Doug

i know it only runs on top but it works very well on the vogue as an everyday OS which is what i want on the diamond...i have looked into it further and apparently development is slow. as far as i know right now they dont even have data, voice, or sound working. thank you for your help

Homeylarry said:
i know it only runs on top but it works very well on the vogue as an everyday OS which is what i want on the diamond...i have looked into it further and apparently development is slow. as far as i know right now they dont even have data, voice, or sound working. thank you for your help
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I have run it alot on my vogue a while ago, while impressed I wouldnt want the extra steps for day to day use with restarts of the phone and all
As for data, it does work, you just have to start IE, Opera, whatever and get a data connection before starting Android and you can browse all day
Sound was working last I knew (video/music)
As far as development though, Im not surprised its slow, its linux after all, not alot of app writers for linux let alone android porting to a winmo device especially when windows development can be hard enough to get right (Windows ME and Microsoft BOB anyone?? LOL)
Basically it boils down to if you want a phone, get a phone and get one that YOU want that will do what YOU want it to do, if its as a phone with data, internet, text your choices are wide open, if it is something with Android (which really at this point is a shiney new toy thing although usable somewhat for day to day) then pick up a Vogue or Diamond/Touch Pro and be ready to play with it and do alot of work to make functional - Just my opinion -YMMV
Detroit Doug

o ok then...do you know of any place that consistently updates progress on the development of this? everywhere i looked stopped updating in january some time...

I'd check with your carrier first before using another carriers phone. I know for a fact that Bell Mobility WILL NOT activate foreign phones.
I've been watching ebay for a Bell touch and the best ive seen is about $150... not much cheaper than buying a new one.. (a hundred bucks or so, but new is nice)
GG

the problem with that is i don't want to renew my contract (which enables the discount) so i am going to get one off of ebay and Verizon's open phone policy works perfectly for sprint phones that verizon also carries

well my DARE is crapping out and i have decided to go ahead and get a Vogue for under $100 and wait for the Pre to hit Verizon. i will throw money at that and be happy

Trying to order a T-Mobile myTouch. Do I have to have the data package?

Here's the deal.... I have a T-Mobile Dash, and my wife has an old Nokia phone. We have a family plan with shared minutes. Her phone is eligible for a discounted upgrade, but my line is not. I'm wanting to upgrade the phone on "her line", give it to me, and then give my old phone to her (which she doesn't use much). Make sense?
So.... T-Mobile is telling me that if I upgrade the phone on her line, we'll have to have a data package on that line for the duration of the contract. Wha?? She hardly uses the phone, and certainly doesn't need/want a data package. My line already has a data package that will work with the myTouch phone.
Is T-Mobile telling me the truth here? Am I going to be stuck ordering a 2nd data package that I don't want/need?
Thx.
Yip

There's probably nothing you can do to get around that requirement for now because the web site is very strict about those rules. Wait until the phone comes out and buy one in person at a T-Mobile store and they can get you set up the way you're trying to do it no problem.

T-Mobile has gone to mandatory data packages when you upgrade to certain high end phones. It has been set up with no way around it, even in store. I hope I am wrong, but doesn't look good from my seat.

That's why I bought the Google Ion instead of waiting for the myTouch 3G.

Well.... I don't need to tell you that I'm pretty unhappy about it I've been with T-Mobile since before they were T-Mobile (Voicestream, back then), and I think my 9 years of being a "good customer" deserves a bit better than this. I'm trying to pay them for a new phone, and I'm fine with having a data package -- I've had that for years. What I do *not* want is an extra data package that is unnecessary. Quite honestly, they DO have the power to resolve this situation for me, but they're choosing not to.
I'm going to keep pressing them, and I think we all should. I don't really care what "other providers" are doing or have been doing for years. I'm not with another provider, I'm with T-Mobile. If they want to act/price like the other providers, then maybe it's time for me to move along.

if you find a friendly rep at a local store, they maybe willing to do the non-req data, seems that the rec data stick rate is not high atm since it was just introduced in june

Thanks for the replies, folks. After talking with 3 separate reps over there, I finally got to a manager who could *REALLY* help me out! I've ordered the myTouch (which will need a data package to start), but I can them call them and they'll do an IMEI switch and drop one data package for me. Essentially, I'll get the phone at $199 *and* will only need to pay for a single $24.99 data package, rather than two data packages. I'm not sure if everyone can get this "deal", but I was able to work it out, get it documented (with them) and place my order.

Anyone can get that deal. You just have to wait till the phone comes out instead of pre ordering it. I'm a rep in a store and we do this all the time. Pre orders are different mainly because its automated on the website.

bachviet said:
That's why I bought the Google Ion instead of waiting for the myTouch 3G.
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Where can I get a google ion? I want this phone, but want the 288 MB of RAM.

mikeybags said:
Where can I get a google ion? I want this phone, but want the 288 MB of RAM.
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On local craigslist but it only has 192MB of RAM just like the myTouch 3G.

bachviet said:
On local craigslist but it only has 192MB of RAM just like the myTouch 3G.
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Ahh...I read a review that said it has 288. That sucks.

I wonder if you can do the the quick switcharoo get one with data then change phone for another month then call them and let then know you lost the phone and downgrade to the t-web? Or get the phone then change your data plan online to t-web?

Solution to your "problems"
yipcanjo said:
Well.... I don't need to tell you that I'm pretty unhappy about it I've been with T-Mobile since before they were T-Mobile (Voicestream, back then), and I think my 9 years of being a "good customer" deserves a bit better than this. I'm trying to pay them for a new phone, and I'm fine with having a data package -- I've had that for years. What I do *not* want is an extra data package that is unnecessary. Quite honestly, they DO have the power to resolve this situation for me, but they're choosing not to.
I'm going to keep pressing them, and I think we all should. I don't really care what "other providers" are doing or have been doing for years. I'm not with another provider, I'm with T-Mobile. If they want to act/price like the other providers, then maybe it's time for me to move along.
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Just get the phone with the discounted price, once you get the phone swap it with your wife and let tmobile know that your wife didnt like the phone but you will keep it and you want to move the data plan from her line to yours and that she will keep using her old phone. That's everything you will have to do.
P.S. I'm a TMo Sales Rep

Actually, I didn't even have to be "sneaky" about it. I *knew* that T-Mobile could do this, it was really a matter of their willingness. I was able to speak with a cust svc manager who will "make it all good" after the phone arrives.
New phone ordered on wife's line ($199), will move the phone to my line, data package stays on my line, no data package required on her line. NET = Cost stays the same.
Thanks, T-Mo.

yipcanjo said:
Actually, I didn't even have to be "sneaky" about it. I *knew* that T-Mobile could do this, it was really a matter of their willingness. I was able to speak with a cust svc manager who will "make it all good" after the phone arrives.
New phone ordered on wife's line ($199), will move the phone to my line, data package stays on my line, no data package required on her line. NET = Cost stays the same.
Thanks, T-Mo.
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LOL That's what I did to get my G1 when it came out and now that my contract is up, I have no problem getting the myTouch just switch out the sim and I'm done

Anyone know of a way for me to keep my bill at the same price when I get my mytouch 3g. I currently have the tmobile total internet package that cost 19.99 and the 400 text messages for 4.99. I know they had the g1 plan for 24.99 that basically included my services in one but the recently changed it. Would they be able to give that old service or let me just keep my current ones?
Thanks

I can tell you for certain that T-Mobile will lock a minimum $25 data package to the line you upgrade to the MyTouch on for the duration of the new contract. The only way out is to pay full price for the handset after the phone is released on or about the 15th of august. I dont know why you would want to have that much phone without a data plan but that's just me.

donepate said:
I dont know why you would want to have that much phone without a data plan but that's just me.
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plus 1 on this one too. i don't think you'll be able to really enjoy the phone w/o the data. besides your already paying the same thing might as well get the 3g benefit instead of edge!

(T-mobile) HTC HD2. contents, unboxing video & apps. Full review coming up...

I have received the HD2 from t-mobile on the 16th of November.
T-mobile supply you with the following:
HD2
Battery
Power adapter
USB to Micro USB (plugs into power adapter)
Headphones
2GB Micro SD card with and SD adapter
They dont supply you with:
A pouch (case) which i have seen in unboxing videos.
A few members asked me to do a review on the device so i will do so as best i can. ive been playing around with it long enough i think to do so.
VIDEOS:
I have uploaded an unboxing video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ic-O9xkHUk
Boot time is around 50 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11-Lo6i_zVg
If i have time i will dump the rom!
List of apps in rom:
HTC Messages
Email
Phone
People
Messenger
Internet Explorer
People
HTC Calendar
Music
Footprints
Camara
Albums
Audio Booster
MP3 Trimmer
FM Radio
Pictures & Videos
Streaming Media
Windows Media
Camcorder
Teeter
Marketplace
Microsoft My Phone
Outlook
Getting Started
Excel Mobile
PowerPoint Mobile
OneNote Mobile
Word Mobile
Calculator
Active Sync
Comm Manager
Internet Sharing
Search Phone
QuickGPS
Voice Recorder
RSS Hub
WorldCard Mobile
JBlend
Adobe Reader LE
Remote Desktop Mobile
Format SD Card
Digital Compass
Search Widget
Facebook
Wi-Fi Router
Help
Windows Live (without Messenger, you would have to download that from Marketplace)
Google Maps
Instant Messaging (useless doesnt work)
Mail Setup
SIM Manager
web'n'walk (T-mobile skinned Opera)
Managed to get Twitter to work on TF3D (HTC SENSE)

Congrats mate, did t mobile disabled the wireless router option? and is it locked?

lzhug1227 said:
Congrats mate, did t mobile disabled the wireless router option? and is it locked?
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NOPE wifi router is there!
i'll put up a list of apps included in rom..

is this only in UK or is it coming out also in USA

Any T-mobile logo on the phone itself?

maniatico said:
is this only in UK or is it coming out also in USA
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Ive got the UK version, im not sure if there will be a US version but im pretty sure there would be

MrEdwardK said:
Any T-mobile logo on the phone itself?
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boot splash is T-mobile, i will do a start up video of the phone and a mini review for you to see! =)

The T-mobile release was not meant for another week or two, (well done on getting a phone)
I was give an early December release date when I spoke to them onthe phone and opted to leave in favour of Voda.
If these companies gave their frontline staff better info then maybe they would keep more customers.
Any chance of some more vids. (especially any showing any differences in the T-Mobile Rom)
thanks in advance..

zoro25 said:
The T-mobile release was not meant for another week or two, (well done on getting a phone)
I was give an early December release date when I spoke to them onthe phone and opted to leave in favour of Voda.
If these companies gave their frontline staff better info then maybe they would keep more customers.
Any chance of some more vids. (especially any showing any differences in the T-Mobile Rom)
thanks in advance..
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lol i was literally nagging t-mobile every single day! and they told me it would be released on the 9th.. they then said on the 13th so i rang up and sorted out my contract around 12:30pm and they told me they had 1000 in stock and there was 30 left, so if there was no weekend i would of had it last week...
i just uploaded a boot splash video
and will upload some various other for you to see

Did you say you got it on upgrade? If so how much and on what priced contract?

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boot splash is T-mobile, i will do a start up video of the phone and a mini review for you to see! =)
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Hello mate, I have just got my tmob hd2 did you get the you tube, Twitter apps? doesn't look like we got the co pilot trial either...

You should have gone through a 3rd party, i got mine on T-mobile today and it came with a pouch, wifi router is there, so is the co-pilot trial and the other apps that seem to be missing on t-mobile branded handsets. Mine is also unlocked and has no branding at all

Got mine yesterday, initially very impressed.
Unfortunatly got it direct from T-mobile on an upgrade (18months)
...so No pouch!! and No YOUTUBE! you can add twitter from one of the settings pages but i have no interest in that at the moment.
Phoned T-mobile after seeing that on page 4 of the quick start guide it listed 'POUCH' as being included----I thought HTC may have forgot about them for this rushed batch for T-mobile
I was very disapointed in T-mobiles responce ....they expected me to phone HTC!!
They then sent me a txt saying 'their warehouse said it was not included..see page 4 of the quick start guide!'
...Either someone at T-mobile warehouse has just nicked a load of them after deleting all the youtube software...or T-mobile dont want to bother contacting HTC on their customers behalf to highlight their error!
On a positive note the Wifi Router app works faster and better than the '3' 3G dongle I had been using for internet for the past 2 months

i would be interested to know how much t-mobile are charging for this handset as through mobilephonesdirect I got a completely unbranded and unlocked handset for free on tmobile combi 30 for 34 pounds a month. that's for 700 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited internet on an 18 month contract. I usually prefer to go through high street retailers but I really can't imagine them being able to match that deal.

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Got mine yesterday, initially very impressed.
Unfortunatly got it direct from T-mobile on an upgrade (18months)
...so No pouch!! and No YOUTUBE! you can add twitter from one of the settings pages but i have no interest in that at the moment.
Phoned T-mobile after seeing that on page 4 of the quick start guide it listed 'POUCH' as being included----I thought HTC may have forgot about them for this rushed batch for T-mobile
I was very disapointed in T-mobiles responce ....they expected me to phone HTC!!
They then sent me a txt saying 'their warehouse said it was not included..see page 4 of the quick start guide!'
...Either someone at T-mobile warehouse has just nicked a load of them after deleting all the youtube software...or T-mobile dont want to bother contacting HTC on their customers behalf to highlight their error!
On a positive note the Wifi Router app works faster and better than the '3' 3G dongle I had been using for internet for the past 2 months
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Its strange because my pouch was actually in the box and the box is sealed so if the T-mobile boxes are sealed it must have actually been HTC that have removed these from the T-mobile packages???

leoni1980 said:
i would be interested to know how much t-mobile are charging for this handset as through mobilephonesdirect I got a completely unbranded and unlocked handset for free on tmobile combi 30 for 34 pounds a month. that's for 700 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited internet on an 18 month contract. I usually prefer to go through high street retailers but I really can't imagine them being able to match that deal.
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Well I am awaiting stock from Tmobile as I just missed the first wave. I got a 24mth upgrade for £20 a month with 300 minute calls, unlimited text and mobile. Phone cost £31. I'm happy with that cos I don't need more phone minutes but they said I could upgrade to £30 a month to get the 700 minute calls. If I needed that number of minutes I would have gone for your deal on MPD so I could have an unbranded handset.

When you guys refer to 'T-mobile' branding, I assuming this is just the software (boot splash, etc) and not any logos physically on the phone itself?

well t-mobile and htc are blaming each other for the lack of 'pouch' and i dont really want to spend anymore of my life hoping that the dimwits i spoke to over the phone grow a brain cell or 2.
Does anyone know how to put the youtube software back on a T-mobile phone???
Does anyone have the software? or a partial rom or cab---dont know how to add the original rom!!!
Ps. got mine for £60 inc delivery on an upgrade (wanted it free) on flex35 for 18months offered same deal for flex 25 but wanted the 3gb internet that was included---then added another £10 a month to get web and walk max with 10gb allowance that allows skype usage......so £45 per month +£60 =£870total contract
....so really upset at not being able to have the bonus of using youtube on the go after paying all that extra to use the internet
Good news----cancelled my already broken home broadband today so gets me more of the monthly cost back--ie.the phone replaces my home broadband and my dongle top up charges when travelling

Wireless router for o2 builds
Good to see that T-Mob aren't playing about with things too much!

sh500 said:
When you guys refer to 'T-mobile' branding, I assuming this is just the software (boot splash, etc) and not any logos physically on the phone itself?
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Fortunately there aren't any exterior logos branded on the device itself, it's just as you assumed, splash screens both start up & shut down plus a couple of apps.

UK Nexus

Hi quick question,
I just managed to sell my htc hd2 for £390 so am about to order my nexus one! (im in the UK) other UK buyers can you tell me how much its all coming to roughly, i understand its about £340 on the credit card from google then probably about another £60 from DHL once they invoice you?
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
What i was mainly concerned with was that I did hear this may effect gps/maps and sat nav for uk users and that we may not be able to use turn by turn in uk? This may not be true, its just something i remmber reading on another forum?
any thoughts would be appreciated
cheers

Well I believe the UK Nexus will have multi-touch.
I have my Nexus already running Google Nav as it works as per the old method for Hero/Dream.
It depends if you're planning on rooting it or not, if you are then you'll be putting a custom ROM on anyway, which will probably have multi-touch..etc (Cyan is already working on it).
Also the UK will more than likely have a T-mobile brading...etc.
Your Choice.
I have had my DHL bill as yet but it was a tad shy of £355 I think (depends on the exchange rate at the time).

yeah i think by all sounds rooting seems to be the way to go once peeps have had time to iron it out. havent had android phone before but like all i hear, i had the htc hd2 for about 4 hours before i was convinced winmo was a pile of ****! i think i may take the plunge and go for it -my GF keeps saying why dont i just get an Iphone! i think i need this phone to show her why!

If the euro Nexus does have multitouch there's nothing to stop Google updating those US phones sold to UK users - the hardware will be identical.

How do I test multi touch as I thought Eclair supports it out the box? I tried multi touch paint from market and it seems to work fine.

Use Dolphin Browser, this supports multitouch.
We KNOW the phones support it, its just Google couldn't release to US handsets for some reason to do with Apple and copyright??? not entirely sure.

The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
You will need to install a custom version of Maps for Google Maps Navigation to work outside the US. Keep in mind there are some limitations. Search for the thread in the Dream Android Development forum to read how to install and what the limitations are.

yamanote said:
The UK Nexus One ordered from google.com/phone (currently the only place to order the device) does not have multi touch support in the preinstalled apps. The device itself has support, the built in apps do not (ie the built in Gallery app does not zoom when you pinch) That's why installing multitouch supported apps from the Market work.
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Exactly what I thought. I prefer the double tap

There is, afaik, no "UK Nexus" and "US Nexus".
They're the same.
If the preinstalled apps in the version sold to US citizens don't have multitouch, the ones sold to Brits won't either.
Same hardware and software, only if you're having it sent to UK, you get the option of getting an adapter for you charger separately.
It's explained on the official support page, which I'm not allowed to link to.

Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!

John Cipolletti said:
Be very careful about importing any phone into different regions. All kinds of problems can result, including NOT GETTING 3G COVERAGE! If things don't work for you, can you return the phone without trouble? That's a lot of money to spend on a phone that has problems!
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The Neuxs One is a phone made for the whole world, so importing it will not result in problems with coverage as it supports the mostly used 3g bands around the world.
Also noone is importing the Nexus One to the UK since Google is specifically targetting UK residents and must of course provide customer service to them.
As for other countries which google is not really selling the phone to I don't know, but I assume that the warranty is world wide and you should not have trouble returning it.

fryarch said:
Hi quick question,
Also I heard that if we're importing a nexus to uk rather than waiting another month or so to get uk version sim free (i guess from google.co.uk?) that the updates/rom etc will be the US versions and we may not get certain benefits/updates/default functionality etc that a UK/european bought nexus will get - what these are I don't know thou!anyone know?
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I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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ScaredyCat said:
I got mine from Google in the US and it;s a UK edition. How do i know? The Amazon app is Amazon UK and navigation doesn't work.
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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.

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It does obvious detect the network of the sim inserted, time and location of where you are automatically. Therefore updating the system and apps accordingly.
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Really? How did it update these apps exactly? I had no 3g/edge/gprs or wifi when I set up. Are you suggesting that OTB there are multiple app versions? Are you saying that if you happend to be in the US and used a UK sim you'd get UK apps? I doubt that very very much, particularly as a SIM is not even required to setup.
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Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
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m00moo said:
Let me break it down for you.
The phone has a inbuilt GPS. When you turn your phone on the very first time regardless of your sim being inserted or not. The phone will set itself up accordingly to where you are. During the first start up the phone takes longer if you didnt notice.
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LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ScaredyCat said:
LOL I seriously doubt that happens either. If it did it would have taken a week for mine to start up. I work in what is essentially a giant Faraday cage. I just can't get a GPS signal inside.
So rather than you just making stuff up, can we stick to the facts?
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ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed

m00moo said:
ok you should stick to your idea of google having 4 boxes of nexus ones. they have one for US, UK, Singapore and HK.
They shipped you a UK one since your navigation doesnt work and it had amazon UK installed
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I'm also guessing that it didn;t to the laser etching as i signed in to gmail.
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I take it there's still no confirmation as to whether it will be available sim-free from an EU webstore when it is offered on Vodafone? In fact, unless things change, when it is subsidised by VF, it may be a case of signing up to a vodafone contract on google.com and still importing the handset. If there is some sort of google.co.uk offering, then presumably the price will reflect the VAT element.

i got one from ebay 470 free shipping..
Works fine so far, how do i get the maps working? whats the old hero method? Ive never had an hero lol