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When are Orange going to wake up..

When are Orange going to wake up.. M5000 is
a) late
b) data charges are more expensive than O2
c) device will actually cost more that the *already out* XDA Exec.
I have loyalty to orange.. but the price difference and delays are too much.
Besides which I have 900 business user im wanting to put on and to be honest.. which one I use for my personal use will prolly be the same I as Instruct my company to buy.
Get off your ar$e orange.. Your the slowest and most expensive in the pack. Why in hells name would a business want to go with you even with existing loyalty when its like this.

And the orange price promise seemed to go out of the window years ago. It should now read "We'll copy any tariff that's pretty expensive and come up with 1001 excuses not to match any that you may want."

the m5000 is available in france, and not very expensive :
700 € without any subscription....

Aye bud..
Its so bloody annoying.. I actually prefer working and developing with Orange but the Account manager is useless and never returns calls or emails(previous one on maternity leave was better).
Promises have been broken time and again on released date (anyone remember when they said it would be ready the 2nd of Sept 2005 lol).
If Imate, 02 and t mobile can get it right.. WTF are Orange playing at.
The current tariff structure is near archaic – 3G on orange is really expense.. This idea of downloading a music video or a powerpoint slide on 3G just makes me want laugh… yeah if you want to spend 16 pounds on one song..

it begin to be interesting with orange, for example, TV is without limit every week end ...

another potential problem with the Orange M5000.... IT MIGHT HAVE WI-FI DISABLED :!:
I was reading about the different models during the past few weeks before I finnally gave up and bought my xda Exec last week.
What I gathered from specialised sites was that Orange was considering disabeling the Wi-Fi capabilities of the M5000. a very stupid move i might add.....
In any case I went into an Orange shop early last week and enquired about the matter (and soon gave up due to the 'highly' knowledgable staff :roll: ) - the guy claimed that he was SURE that its not disabled - the person there showed me the info on Orange's intranet - and it actually has a remark there regrding the Wi-Fi capability of the device - that it "is up to the discretion" of the mobile operator....
I have no vested interst here - all I'm saying is - take care and make sure it has Wi-Fi b4 u buy it!

Shhh that is serious.. can anyone confirm that the Orange M5000 does or doesnt have WiFi?

It has WIfi
Regards
Stu

Stu,
What was in the box? Did it get the spare battery as promised? What s/w is installed in the ROM and did you get an more on CD? What version is the ROM?

TMob VARIO II with Copilot

just wondering if anyone is using a VarioII with copilot and their experiences with it. I have ordered one from tmob on the standard £20 a month + with w&w but alas they are out of stock, so wondeing if i should cancel the order and get something else.
thanks

oac966 said:
just wondering if anyone is using a VarioII with copilot and their experiences with it. I have ordered one from tmob on the standard £20 a month + with w&w but alas they are out of stock, so wondeing if i should cancel the order and get something else.
thanks
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I used CoPilot with my old MDA Compact and it was great. I am waiting for my upgrade to come through to the VarioII. CP never got me lost, once.
Having studied the ALK website, there is only enhancements to the WM2003 version of CP - so can only be a good thing IMO. A lot will come down to personal choice however. The best for me is having a seperate Bluetooth GPS receiver so portability is fantastic.
You can always try out for a while and cancel if you've gone through web or telesales (you have 7 days).

Thanks for you reply. I can wait to get my hands on the device and try it all out, but Tmob seem to have no idea when it will come back into stock interestingly enough its still on their website and they are still taking orders. not sure why they would do such a silly thing.

oac966 said:
Thanks for you reply. I can wait to get my hands on the device and try it all out, but Tmob seem to have no idea when it will come back into stock interestingly enough its still on their website and they are still taking orders. not sure why they would do such a silly thing.
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I used to work for a network provider in the UK (O2) and its a simple case of making the numbers and worrying about delivery later.
I see you're based in the US, my comment re 7 day cool off period may not apply as its a UK based law as part of the Sale of Goods Act - you may want to check what your version is.
I don't have any experience of TMob over there at all. In the UK, I have found customer service to be excellent and if the phone is not in stock then its taken off the site.
I think you'll love it from my experience!

Sorry, newbie to this forum so still setting up profiles etc. but i am actually based in the Uk and have ordered it from the Tmob uk website so hopefully the 7 day period will apply + i think with their new street coverage you can also return the phone in 14 days if u find that the street coverages is not what u expected. (but i could be wrong.)

oac966 said:
Sorry, newbie to this forum so still setting up profiles etc. but i am actually based in the Uk and have ordered it from the Tmob uk website so hopefully the 7 day period will apply + i think with their new street coverage you can also return the phone in 14 days if u find that the street coverages is not what u expected. (but i could be wrong.)
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Spot on. Be aware though that any usage you incur (GSm/GPRS/3G) will be charged as normal.
UK customer services are great (in my opinion), i've only got good things to say about them.
let us know how you get on with CoPilot.

That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?

I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.

oac966 said:
That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
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the 34 is only for use for voice calls to UK mobile and land lines ( eg. no 0845 etc, ) UK text ( no premium ) mms and Voicemail.

shabba007 said:
I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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My advice would be to accept the package and ebay the CoPilot reciever and software as it retails at nearly £200 i think so you would make a fair chunk of money back or just phone telesales and i'm sure they would be able to help. As has been said before the customer service is excellent i'm very happy with my plain old Vario and CoPilot its excellent software

oac966 said:
That is expected. after all i am using the service!! Do u know by any chance is making video calls in included in your allowance. I have taken the one which gives me £34 worth of allowance per month + wnw (£7.50),. but cant find anywhere where it says video calling in not included in this option!. So is it safe to assume that it is ?
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Nope - Video calls are charged at 15ppm and are classed as outside the bundles - least that what I've got from the Tmob website. Probably best to have a scout round on their site - I found it in the faq section. Failing that check with CS folks.
MDA

shabba007 said:
I see t-mobile have removed the option of buying the Vario II without copilot!!!! i didnt really want Copilot as I've been using tomtom for many years and dont see why I have to pay for something I dont really need. Well at least I think they've removed the option as cant see it anywhere. Can someone point me in the right direction please.
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probably means that they are out of stock on those devices without the CoPilot bundle - speak to CS for advise.

i'm trying to get hold of an MDA compact 2 but the prices people pay on ebay are rediculous didnt realise they were so popular on their particularly the pink ones

UK: In stock at Vodafone

Hi guys
Went to 02 shop today in Chester to see if any news: The staff hadnt even heard of the X1.
Went round the corner to Vodafone expecting the same thing but imagine my suprise when I was told it was in stock. Within 30 minutes I had purchased my new X1!
Yet to have a proper play but smaller and lighter than I imagined.
Andrew

Locked or unlocked?

5th of November...
Thats when most dutch shops should have the Xperia. Atleast my local Belcompany store will have it..

Branded or not?

From the pics posted on other forums, it's branded, but not that big a deal.
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_1.JPG
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_2.JPG

miky7 said:
Branded or not?
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Zaim2 said:
From the pics posted on other forums, it's branded, but not that big a deal.
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_1.JPG
http://www.nullpacket.co.uk/X1_2.JPG
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Thanks for the photos, but apart from the appearence the big question is if they have messed up with the rom.

Now we see where the dealy has come from! Making all the crap boxes and literature to acompany the naf Vodafone logos phone with its bloated Vodafone crappy ROM.
When will service providers learn its not what the end user wants?!?!?!

ajbartley said:
Hi guys
Went to 02 shop today in Chester to see if any news: The staff hadnt even heard of the X1.
Went round the corner to Vodafone expecting the same thing but imagine my suprise when I was told it was in stock. Within 30 minutes I had purchased my new X1!
Yet to have a proper play but smaller and lighter than I imagined.
Andrew
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weird, I went into the vf store in chester yesterday and they only had the dummy phone in, that was about 11.30, they didn't know when they were having a delivery but guessed it would be tuesday,they must have had a delivery after I left, you jammy git .

vinokirk said:
Now we see where the dealy has come from! Making all the crap boxes and literature to acompany the naf Vodafone logos phone with its bloated Vodafone crappy ROM.
When will service providers learn its not what the end user wants?!?!?!
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The two pictures of the Vodafone X1 above were taken by me yesterday. I really don't think they've messed with it much at all branding-wise. The Vodafone logo is black and doesn't stick out like the red one would have, an unbranded X1 just has "X1" written in that space, so it's not a huge change.
They've pre-loaded a few 'applications' which are mainly links to open Vodafone Live and their data-powered GPS site. Apart from that and a few bookmarks in Opera/PIE, I don't see too much to complain about, it still has the HTC apps like the streaming media player, sim manager, A-GPS data downloader, etc.
The Google panel is called the Vodafone panel, but the only real change I think is the inclusion of a few link to the Vodafone Live site and Mobile TV (streaming 3G video from Vodafone).

Difficult choice, Vodafone definitely in stock, but their 12 month contracts are rubbish:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/sony-ericsson/X1/
But T-Mobile just said they will definitely get it, but have no date yet.

Went to Vodafone and had a look at the dummy model, its tiny! I was expecting it to be bigger The keys are not too easy to type on. I had a look at a silver dummy and I really liked it, they had no stock of black or silver just the silver dummy.
They also dont sell it sim free but that dont matter as they had none in stock anyway!

I'm in a quandry as my local Vf shop is offering just the phone for £350-400! They have some on delivery tomorrow and I'm wondering wether to reserve one. My problem is that
I'm 9 months into an 18 month contract (T-mobile Flext) and so I cannot use a locked phone. Does anyone know whether the Vodafone Xperia's are locked or not?

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Does anyone know whether the Vodafone Xperia's are locked or not?
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Pretty sure Vodafone stopped locking all phones 12 months ago. Anyway my Vodafone X1 has just accepted my Orange Wednesday SIM so you should be in luck

They have them in stock in carphonewarehouse as well both on o2 and orange. This was in the brent cross shopping centre one that is though. Not too small and not too big just the right size got mine coming soon too. Although the salesman was pretty stupid saying not to buy it and was trying to sell me the blackberry claiming the sony ericsson x1 was full of bugs?!?!? i set him straight though!

The mystery deepens!
I spoke to vodafone customer services who said the phone was probably locked and only available on a contract (despite the shop having offered it for £350-400 on its own).
I don't want a contract with O2 or Vodafone so I'm going to try one last visit to the shop tomorrow morning and if that is unsuccessful then I'll get it through play (£499.99 & free delivery), SuperGPS or Handtec (next day delivery!).

Cazbuh said:
I spoke to vodafone customer services who said the phone was probably locked
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Wrong, as I've said up above none of their new phones are locked, and MY Vodafone X1 is running fine with my Orange SIM
and only available on a contract (despite the shop having offered it for £350-400 on its own).
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Possibly hit and miss with each shop and their targets etc however even if they did sell it SIM free it's likely to be more (about £500).

My carphonewarehouse said its not out for a couple of weeks yet :O the ejits...
I only asked the vodafone shop if they did it sim free, I didnt ask them specificly if they sold just the phone on its own(but stil with crappy vodafone branding).
I would be willing to have a vodafone branded unlocked handset for £350 rather than an unbranded unlocked handset from clove play etc for £500.
This is an avenue i hadnt even thought of!

foaf said:
Difficult choice, Vodafone definitely in stock, but their 12 month contracts are rubbish:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/sony-ericsson/X1/
But T-Mobile just said they will definitely get it, but have no date yet.
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Has anyone tried bargaining with Vodafone on the phone or in store? Someone in the Touch Pro forum managed to get a free Touch Pro on a 12 month contract at £42.50 per month. Not sure if it was a business or consumer contract.
Trouble for me now though is that as this phone has taken so long to come out I'm now torn between the X1 and the Touch HD. Why couldn't SE get it shipped like the iphone, as you have to hand it to Apple for being able to get the phone in the shops six weeks after launch.

jamiemag said:
Has anyone tried bargaining with Vodafone on the phone or in store? Someone in the Touch Pro forum managed to get a free Touch Pro on a 12 month contract at £42.50 per month. Not sure if it was a business or consumer contract.
Trouble for me now though is that as this phone has taken so long to come out I'm now torn between the X1 and the Touch HD. Why couldn't SE get it shipped like the iphone, as you have to hand it to Apple for being able to get the phone in the shops six weeks after launch.
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yes I got a deal with vodafone retail. I asked them if they could match onliine vodastore on a 12 month contract and they said yes. I originally wanted the 45 per month deal with 900 mins and 500 texts and handset 100. He could only find 750 mins 250 texts which I said I didn't want. we finished off on 600 mins and 500 texts for 40 a month and 100 for the phone, which is a saving of 50 compared to online and got the phone there and then.

has anyone found any better deals than the ones on the vodafone website ? if i remember, the operator's deals are usually amongst the worst around ?
i'm looking for a 12 month contract but the vodafone site only allows unlimited internet and all the other goodies on 18 month contracts. grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Using the Router feature in the UK.

Hiya,
I've had search through the forum, but nothing specific came up that I found. So pardon me if I am asking an old question. I also checked the link at the top of the forum, but the Wiki links weren't working.
I have just come out of my old contract and was looking at the HD2 as a possible option for a new phone. It has a 'Wifi Router' feature which seems quite unique, but it also hits a grey area in phone contracts.
Would using this feature be classed as 'tethering' or 'tunnelling'? (I think that's what it's called.) Would there be any additional charges from a UK provider such as O2 or Orange? How would they know?
With my old Orange contract I'd often take my SIM card and put it in an unlocked 3G dongle and this would enable me to use my laptop at work to browse webpages and... play Warcraft... Anyway, I never incurred any extra charges with Orange as, I guess, they had no idea that I was doing it.
Would this work in a similar fashion?
Please share your experiences from UK service providers when using this feature. I'm mainly looking at O2 as CPW have an attractive offer of a free phone and just the right amount of minutes and texts for a nice price.

Hi, yes, it's the same as tethering, except that instead of the comp using the phone as a modem, the phone creates its own connection and then shares it, so it's possibly a little harder for 'them' to see what you are doing, as they will still only see a phone rather than a data modem.
O2 have removed the wifi router from their rom, but that is easily replaced by flashing a new rom.
I doubt they will be able to tell what you are doing, certainly not unless they do some pretty hardcore packet inspection, perhaps, however teh fair useage data policies will apply, of course.
i have unlimited data bolt on, so there is probably no less useage when its not acting as a router than when there is!
Personally i wouldn't worry about it.

I'm on O2 and did get a slap on the wrist when I had my phone tethered to my laptop while I spent a couple of nights in hospital. I watched a few 1 hour episodes on BBC iplayer, and I think that pushed me over the 1GB fair usage limit. They sent me a text and a letter, which is fair enough.
However, I'm not sure how they can claim on the one hand that tethering the phone to a laptop is against the terms and conditions of the contract when they advertise the following for the HD2:
"Carry the HTC HD2 in your pocket and you'll never have to worry about finding a Wi-Fi access point for your laptop. Your phone simply connects to superfast 3.5G cellular networks and becomes your personal wireless access point; anytime, anywhere. "
SOURCE: http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/HTC/HD2?lastPage=/mobile_phones/Pay_Monthly/HTC
(read the last section titled "Discover the Unexpected")

Aleemz said:
However, I'm not sure how they can claim on the one hand that tethering the phone to a laptop is against the terms and conditions of the contract when they advertise the following for the HD2:
"Carry the HTC HD2 in your pocket and you'll never have to worry about finding a Wi-Fi access point for your laptop. Your phone simply connects to superfast 3.5G cellular networks and becomes your personal wireless access point; anytime, anywhere. "
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LOL, yet the one I got from O2 has wifirouter removed, nice.

I'm with t-mobile Web&Walk+ £30/month and I've been using my phone as a modem for the last 3 years or so. Usually on a laptop or netbook, all over the UK and EU. I've never really caned it with downloads but have used uploads very heavily but I guess I've stayed within the 'fair usage' policy, whatever that is at the moment. I suppose streaming / p2p / usenet would raise issues but FTP uploads and the like doesn't seem to bother them and if it does they haven't bothered me.
The wireless router on teh HD2 works a treat and it's one less cable/dongle to carry.

Used mine as a wifi router pretty heavily a couple of days ago (500MB in a day, maybe a bit more)... no extra charges showing on my online bill and they would be there by now
If you go with O2, you have to flash to a different ROM from the O2 ROM though... although that's a painless 10 minute proceedure... plus it fixes a few little bugs

Thanks very much for the advice everyone. Really has been helpful.
My new HD2 is on the way and will be here tomorrow. I took out the £7.50 a month bolt-on for unlimited data downloads too, pushing the total to £37.50 (a smidgin over the amount I wanted to pay).
I'm actually more shocked that they accepted me for credit.

samsamuel said:
LOL, yet the one I got from O2 has wifirouter removed, nice.
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I'm using a SE Xperia X1 at the moment, but I did hear O2 have removed the wifi router feature, despite advertsing it (false advertising). I got a HD2 from Virgin and it was great, but had to return it because of the slow download speeds.
I'm looking to upgrade with O2 now that I have ported my number back to them.

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I'm using a SE Xperia X1 at the moment, but I did hear O2 have removed the wifi router feature, despite advertsing it (false advertising). I got a HD2 from Virgin and it was great, but had to return it because of the slow download speeds.
I'm looking to upgrade with O2 now that I have ported my number back to them.
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Im more than happy with o2, , at least now i've flashed a different rom, heh.

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Im more than happy with o2, , at least now i've flashed a different rom, heh.
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Yeah, they're really good - great customer service.

Buying a N1 for a UK user

Hey peeps,
Got some money to burn before the end of my tax year and have been keeping my eye on the phone market recently (boy has it been eventful with the passing of the MWC), and have decided i want a Nexus One.
Can i just get a few questions clear so i know it's defiantly the right choice (as i keep thinking i should wait for the *cough* iphone *cough* 4 *cough*):
1) Will the N1 get updates to Android first over other Android phones like the milestone and the Desire?
2) Will there be any issues with updates as i will be buying from the US for me in the UK?
3) If i have a problem with my N1 where do i go to get it fixed in the UK?
4) Is the N1 'always on'? (need to decide what data package to go for)
5) If i root the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
6) If i put the HTC Sense on the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
I can't think of any other major questions, but i am sure i will ask if i do
Paul

1) It will be faster than the milestone, but for the Desire we don't know yet. Anyway, it's not like features like this won't be ported the next day by the devs here
2) No problem.
3) Dunno, sorry
4) Well it can connected only on demand, but it's not how android is supposed to be used I guess.
5) Not so far, and at worse you'll have to wait (not long) for unofficial updates
6) You'll have to use the updates found here. The OS won't be 100% identical to the Desire, so no official updates will work. Applications updates from the market work us usual though.

Thanks Blimblim
with regards to No.4, i asked cus someone told me that the iphone is always on, so if it hasn't found a wifi network to connect to it uses GPRS or 3G which could get costly if i'm out and about
With No.6 I think i might leave it as stock if it may cause problems/inconveniences. (but i might change my mind when i get it )

3) It'll go to HTC UK who are based in Milton Keynes.
4) You can turn data on and off as you please with the 'Toggle Data' widget.

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1) Will the N1 get updates to Android first over other Android phones like the milestone and the Desire? More than likely, as the updates will come straight from Google
2) Will there be any issues with updates as i will be buying from the US for me in the UK? No
3) If i have a problem with my N1 where do i go to get it fixed in the UK? Phone gets sent off to HTC in Milton Keynes
4) Is the N1 'always on'? (need to decide what data package to go for) Yes, although you can disable mobile data with APNDroid, which was fine for me till I sorted a dataplan
5) If i root the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates? Only if you load a custom ROM
6) If i put the HTC Sense on the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates? Yes, as it's a custom ROM, not that the devs wont include the updates themselves though.
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sir.chunk said:
Hey peeps,
Got some money to burn before the end of my tax year and have been keeping my eye on the phone market recently (boy has it been eventful with the passing of the MWC), and have decided i want a Nexus One.
Can i just get a few questions clear so i know it's defiantly the right choice (as i keep thinking i should wait for the *cough* iphone *cough* 4 *cough*):
1) Will the N1 get updates to Android first over other Android phones like the milestone and the Desire?
2) Will there be any issues with updates as i will be buying from the US for me in the UK?
3) If i have a problem with my N1 where do i go to get it fixed in the UK?
4) Is the N1 'always on'? (need to decide what data package to go for)
5) If i root the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
6) If i put the HTC Sense on the N1 will this cause problems with Android updates?
I can't think of any other major questions, but i am sure i will ask if i do
Paul
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I'm from uk and have an N1
1) Update was prompted to me the moment the wizard setup up wifi (by establishing my google accounts) upon startup
2) None so far. Be aware navigation will only work at present if you root your phone (iphone equivalent of jailbreaking). Google are working on a european version, i chose to wait. And then there is an intermittent sync error with Picasa web albums directly onto the phone, though you can still access the web version in your browser in seconds [EDIT - this will be resolved by updates according to Google forums]
3) A problem with software would be to contact Google. Hardware would require HTC's uk based team.
4) You can chose to not have data roaming, chose to not update any widgets should you wish. For your information i'm on O2 simplicity at £20 a month, 800 minutes, 1600 texts and unlimited internet and have had no problems. Advice if you'r unsure would be to buy the paid version of the Taskiller app, it can be selected to automatically close background apps and therefore stop unnecessary data.
5) Not rooted mine. Chose not to do mine as i'm new to Android it's still much more customizable than iphone and Winmo so i'm a happy user with current abilities. I will pursue rooting if Google do not update a sat nav app for uk in the next few months. There are plenty of youtube videos around to show you how with forum advice.
6) Again, there are plenty of youtube videos with the 2.1 Desire new Rom working on the N1 successfully. No visual performance issues fromt he ones i've seen and everything looks as it should.
Hope i've been of some help.
Regards
Scott

oooooo, this is all very exciting! Thanks everyone for the info.
Didn't know HTC had a centre in MK - WINNER!
I think i will leave putting HTC sense on for now. I did it with the X1 and liked it, but that's only cus what SE had to being with was about as much use as a chocolate tea pot! lol
Out of interest, what data plan have you gone for with vodafone UK?
I see they are now offering on their sim only plans a 1gb data plan.

1 more thing, you may need to establish the APN's for MMS and web for your Network but these can easily be Google'd...

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1 more thing, you may need to establish the APN's for MMS and web for your Network but these can easily be Google'd...
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Using Nexus One in the UK on o2 with no problems what so ever, everything working as should.
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81

philaldred said:
Using Nexus One in the UK on o2 with no problems what so ever, everything working as should.
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81
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Really? Mine was £59 Did you get a UK charger with yours?
Also, to the OP, you really should get an unlimited data plan. They are pretty standard now, even on PAYG, and you are not gonna get anywhere near as much out of the phone without one.

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However just received a big bill from DHL for £81
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That sounds like a mistake to me, even with the charger it shouldn't be much over £60.
Mine was £59.21 (no charger)
Have they stiffed you for duty by any chance? That should be zero.

philaldred said:
However just received a big bill from DHL for £81
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If DHL try to shaft you for the duty charge, phone them up and demand it taken off your bill. UK customs state that mobile phones and PDAs have 0% duty fee. They put a 5% duty on mine, so I called them up. The lines are always busy, but as soon as I got through it was only a 2 mins affair. They have to recalculate the VAT and other charges so they'll send you a new updated bill in about a week or so.

Hey guys, what was the total cost in £'s if you don't mind me asking (phone, Duty?, VAT)?
Also, would you think when Vodafone release it in the UK, will it be different to the one from Google direct?
@3Shirts - Vodafone don't do unlimited data, just 500mb or 1Gb

guys dont forget quidco as well £100 for a symplicity o2 tarrif and £100 for vf one as well

Vodafone unltd data limit sucks
sir.chunk said:
Hey guys, what was the total cost in £'s if you don't mind me asking (phone, Duty?, VAT)?
Also, would you think when Vodafone release it in the UK, will it be different to the one from Google direct?
@3Shirts - Vodafone don't do unlimited data, just 500mb or 1Gb
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Guys I'm using my N1 on vodafone uk too but hate that i get the 500mb so called unlimited data on my 18 month pay monthly plan (came with my contracted crappy N97)! They give iPhone users 1gig!! N other networks put out 1 gig too...why this unfairness??

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Hey guys, what was the total cost in £'s if you don't mind me asking (phone, Duty?, VAT)?
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£412.41 all in, no charger as it's a rip-off!

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£412.41 all in, no charger as it's a rip-off!
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Hey Rusty, thanks for that.
How come the charger is a rip off, and what have you gone for instead?

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£412.41 all in, no charger as it's a rip-off!
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Thanks for the info. I've been considering the N1 replaced for my HD2, really want to try android. How long did it take for the N1 to be in your hand after despatch?

Ordered at 17:15 on Tues day evening, retried order at 17:45 due to HSBC fraud prevention.
Phone in hand about 13:30 on the Friday.