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A few questions about the HTC Legend from a Dream owner

hey guys, i currently have an htc dream. I am on fido
I am thinking about a new phone and the legend comes up as an option.
1) I read that i can get a legend for $400 from bell or $350 from virgin.
I looked around at virgin's website and i could only find an option to buy the legend for $350+ a 30 day plan (the cheapest brings the price to $350+$25)
is there any way to get it at $350 with no contract? am i overlooking anything?
2) does the virgin phone work on the same network as fido/rogers? will it work?
3) if answer to #2 is yes, would i need to get it unlocked even though i bought it outright?
4) What regrets do you have with buying this phone (everyone has regrets about every phone)
thanks a lot for your answers, current owners are the only ones who can give you true answers! Please try and answer back in a
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thanks

To answer your questions:
1) YMMV as some people have been able to get it for $349.99 without activating. But technically it's supposed to be $349.99 on a 30 day plan at the very least. So if you don't have a Virgin plan already, they may require you to sign up for a plan. $35 activation fee and the lowest plan is $25.
2) Yes the Virgin Mobile HTC Legend is model A6365 which is the North American version that will utilize HSPA 3G 850/1900 on all the major Canadian carriers, sans Wind.
3) Yes you will need to get it unlocked if you are planning on using it on a network other than Virgin Mobile. I got mine unlocked from MobileInCanada.com for $20 no problems.
4) No regrets about buying this phone. I sold my X10 because it was too big for my liking and it felt cheap with a creaky battery case. I love the build quality on the Legend and it is the most SOLID phone I've ever used in a great form factor. I don't mind the lower specs because I'm not a power user and it does everything I want without lag. The only quirk I don't like is the lack of bluetooth voice dialing (missing in Android 2.1) but I'm hoping for an update.
asb123 said:
hey guys, i currently have an htc dream. I am on fido
I am thinking about a new phone and the legend comes up as an option.
1) I read that i can get a legend for $400 from bell or $350 from virgin.
I looked around at virgin's website and i could only find an option to buy the legend for $350+ a 30 day plan (the cheapest brings the price to $350+$25)
is there any way to get it at $350 with no contract? am i overlooking anything?
2) does the virgin phone work on the same network as fido/rogers? will it work?
3) if answer to #2 is yes, would i need to get it unlocked even though i bought it outright?
4) What regrets do you have with buying this phone (everyone has regrets about every phone)
thanks a lot for your answers, current owners are the only ones who can give you true answers! Please try and answer back in a
1)
2)
kind of format for any of the questions you are able to answer.
thanks
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da_hool said:
To answer your questions:
1) YMMV as some people have been able to get it for $349.99 without activating. But technically it's supposed to be $349.99 on a 30 day plan at the very least. So if you don't have a Virgin plan already, they may require you to sign up for a plan. $35 activation fee and the lowest plan is $25.
2) Yes the Virgin Mobile HTC Legend is model A6365 which is the North American version that will utilize HSPA 3G 850/1900 on all the major Canadian carriers, sans Wind.
3) Yes you will need to get it unlocked if you are planning on using it on a network other than Virgin Mobile. I got mine unlocked from MobileInCanada.com for $20 no problems.
4) No regrets about buying this phone. I sold my X10 because it was too big for my liking and it felt cheap with a creaky battery case. I love the build quality on the Legend and it is the most SOLID phone I've ever used in a great form factor. I don't mind the lower specs because I'm not a power user and it does everything I want without lag. The only quirk I don't like is the lack of bluetooth voice dialing (missing in Android 2.1) but I'm hoping for an update.
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thanks a lot for the reply, unfortunately for me, i do not have a virgin account. This means that it would cost me $447 to get one and get it unlocked, thats edging very close to the price of an n1. Of course this would be a lot cheaper if you are a virgin user.

I think the thing that sets it apart from the N1 (amongst other phones) is the superb build quality and form factor. It really is a thing of beauty!

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I think the thing that sets it apart from the N1 (amongst other phones) is the superb build quality and form factor. It really is a thing of beauty!
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yeah, it definitely LOOKS both beautiful and solid, my dream definitely doesnt feel so solid.

The way i see it is that the only way i would get one of these would be if there is someone in the lowermainland area in BC with virgin who could buy it for me, and have me pay them.

a guy told me that he called his local Future Shop they said they would sell the Virgin mobile Legend with no need to activate or buy a month's plan. I don't know for sure, but you could try going to your local Future Shop and see what they say. Unlocking can be done for $10 at cellunlock.net with coupon code crackb50.

I think that The Source is also selling (Bell+Virgin) phones without activation.

I picked a Legend up at a Virgin Mobile kiosk, no Virgin account and no need to activate anything. It is quite YMMV, but you just have to try around, and usually you'll find a place that'll sell it outright for $350+tax. I unlocked it at cellunlock.net for $10 with the 'crackb' code as mentioned by echow and am currently using it on Rogers (3G).
It's a beautiful device. I thought the Bold 9000 I had was well built, but this thing is in another league. I also have an HD2, and while the large screen is absolutely fantastic, Android plus the smaller form factor simply make more sense sometimes. Plus, the MSM7227 is quite a significant upgrade from the Dream's MSM720x(A). You get VFP and the Adreno 200 GPU, which were two big features of Snapdragon.

Bell Motorola Atrix on Rogers/FIDO

I thought I started this thread but it seems to have disappeared ? Anyway thought I'd start it back up since there are many of us in Canada will likely be going this route. Any quirks between carrier settings or special settings needed for this to work fairly flawlessly ?

Only thing you need is to add proper apn settings to make it work on any other carrier, that and the phone has to be unlocked.

im waiting this too lol for mexico the thing its when will be unlocked!!!i cant wait lol

Ahhh yess... the good old "locked" phone scenario. I guess that would be same issue with AT&T model.
APN settings shouldn't be an issue for data. I know the exact one to use for FIDO but MMS might still be an issue?

peachpuff said:
Only thing you need is to add proper apn settings to make it work on any other carrier, that and the phone has to be unlocked.
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Never dealt with an unlocked phone before. What exactly do you have to do to unlock it?

TheEscapist said:
Never dealt with an unlocked phone before. What exactly do you have to do to unlock it?
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You have to get a special code either from bell, a store that unlocks phones etc. Bell will usually give it to you after you bought for a month while at the store the code is like $10. (Each phone has a different code) Then you just input the code (each phone has a different method but it's very easy.)

RacecarBMW said:
You have to get a special code either from bell, a store that unlocks phones etc. Bell will usually give it to you after you bought for a month while at the store the code is like $10. (Each phone has a different code) Then you just input the code (each phone has a different method but it's very easy.)
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Wait, so if I bought it from Bell, I'd have to wait a month before they'd give it to me? There's no way I just couldn't buy it outright from them?

TheEscapist said:
Wait, so if I bought it from Bell, I'd have to wait a month before they'd give it to me? There's no way I just couldn't buy it outright from them?
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the unlock code let you use any sim in the atrix from any carrier in the world (of course that are bands compatible) so many people (like me) want the unlock code so i can buy it from at&t and then use the unlcok code to use it in my country that have the same bands

zen kun said:
the unlock code let you use any sim in the atrix from any carrier in the world (of course that are bands compatible) so many people (like me) want the unlock code so i can buy it from at&t and then use the unlcok code to use it in my country that have the same bands
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No, I know. He said that Bell would give me the unlock code so I could use it on Rogers, but I'd have to wait a month after I bought it. I was asking if there was any way I could just buy the unlock code from Bell right away.

Yes that is something I mentioned in the previous thread that I started (now gone). I mentioned that it is very likely Bell would keep the phone for their own customers (existing or new sign up), so they may not sell you the phone at all without a contract with them. Unlock codes can be had on the internet for $25 or less, but will Bell sell the phone with no contract. Let`s see what happens.

Bell selling you the phone off contract is ENTIRELY based off of which person you talk to. They're all allowed to do it, but it's looked down on since they make less money if you do it that way.

the other thing that you may have to look into is ATT probably has tethering disabled. I for one want to use this on Telus. it'll have to be rooted (I assume) to be able to use this feature. Plus all of att's bloatware which I'd want to get rid of as well (again rooting will do the trick)
Odd's are Bell won't be the only ones selling it; re-sellers will probably have it off contract as well (Tbooth, bestbuy.ca maybe walmart) but I was surprised this morning when I looked at bestbuy US and Amazon, they are selling it for 599, so off contract at bestbuy.ca and Tbooth they'll probably have it for 699/799 (just my guess though)

well it looks like the bloatware is just a matter of uninstalling it, very glad its not part of the ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960917

kenio8185 said:
Bell selling you the phone off contract is ENTIRELY based off of which person you talk to. They're all allowed to do it, but it's looked down on since they make less money if you do it that way.
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You are right, I got this confirmed by a Cell Phone sales representative.
I visited a Bell Store and a The Source and both told me that I can buy the Atrix full price, but I have to activate it with Bell (35$) + Pay for the first month (50$).
The reason is that if they sell only the phone, they get only 1$ from bell.
If they sell a plan they get 5$ !
My advise, shop around until you find someone that is not that cheap, or just offer him/her the 5 bucks

i typed in the apn settings on my phone the internet only works on the broswer all the apps dont get 3g
but when i switch to wifi everything works :S
weird anyone want to help a newwwwwwwwwebee iphone user?

I have a Bell Atrix on Telus.
cellunlock.net is the cheapest and i've used them for 5 phones so far. 14.99 for any Moto phone, use android50 coupon code for 50% off (if it still works)
The folks instore didn't know anything about unlocking, Telus CSR told me it was 50$ to unlock the desire before i sold it, i was like EFF THAT!
I bought the phone for 599$ but I sold my Desire for 250 and my Milestone for 250$, 100$ to upgrade wasn't bad.
Entered APN and everything is dandy.

rogers/fido users
fido and rogers users may run in to an issue with their call display/name display feature.
when you receive calls they will show up as "payphone" on your display and won't show the name or number of the person that is calling.
to fix this its simply a matter of calling rogers and asking them to "exclude" (very important to say exclude because they cannot remove just the name display but they CAN exclude it. found that out after 4 different calls between tech support and customer care). once the name display is excluded you can now see the numbers of the caller, and if they are already in your phone you will see their name as well.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 7.7 3G/4G Wifi Inernatinal Version

Okay guys,,,,,
Here's the deal I purchased this version of the 7.7
https://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-SamsungP6800Silver
I only paid $545 for it on ebay. Will tmoible's 3G work on this thing. I know that AT&T 3G works. Funny thing is I put my SIM Card into it and it worked great. Even made calls that were clear to hear via my bluetooth headset. I logged onto AT&T with my home computer and it showed as an unsuportted device so I chose the $15 non-smartphone unlimtted data feature and it worked for a day or 2. Now this morning I got a message .... a text message and an email stating I need to purchase a data plan for tablet or broadband device. I quickly put the sim card back into my old LG C550 flip phone which has media net and sports etc.. a non smart phone.
Question: Can they do this?
Question: How do they know its a tablet if these are internatinal versions.
Question: How can they opt to change your data feature
Question: Why do I need to purchase a data plan even when I didn't get a subsidized device. If I'd known that before I would just opt for an AT&T device.
hmmmmm.. .Makes me think about cancelling my service with AT&T when my contract ends in a few months....
Please help me out here.

1) Of course they can do this. It is their network - they make the rules.
2) Domestic or international - all devices identify themselves the same way. They know it is a P6800. They have obviously updated their tables of what is a tablet...
3) See 1)
4) See 1)
I recommend get a provider that serves your area, but has less rules. T-mobile is great, but pretty poor coverage. At least they let you use any compatible device and don't force you to buy a data plan with prepaid service. ATT and Verizon are similar to each other, but at least ATT does not cripple features.

Just seems odd.....
It seems odd.... My daughter has been using the Tmobile Samsung Vibrant (It has AT&T 3G bands in my area) for 2 years on AT&T with the unlimitted non smartphone rate of $15 per month and has never received any message about getting a data plan for smartphones. That is why I asked the question. Isn't the vibrant the same as the captivate with the differecne in the bands that work...... This just seems a bit strange.......... ARGGGG... Maybe I should have just looked for the wi-fi only model. .. too late for me becuase the seller charges a 15% restocking fee... besides I did get a good deal on it.

You point out one of the advantages in GSM phones. There are a variety of carriers that support GSM, and allow devices not their own on their network. AT&T is good about that. It gives you some choice. As far as I know, Verizon only accepts devices sold by them.

Just wondering
I was just wondering. It still seems odd. Think i will just cancel the service when the term expires in a few months. The first snafu was when they merged my accounts .. the rep told me we woudld keep the $30 unlimitted plan on my wife's iphone but when i merged the accounts the option was gone and they refused to get it back..... anyway..i am just venting... That is the power of the consumer.. if you dont' like it take my money somewhere else. only pitfall is in my area AT&T has good serivce.

Yes..you did get a super good deal..
I clicked on your link and saw 680 something price.
Cheaper still is Negri at 630 something..
good.job on price stopping...
Can you post an ebay link to that price?
thanksstopping

Here is the link $545..
jimmbomb said:
Yes..you did get a super good deal..
I clicked on your link and saw 680 something price.
Cheaper still is Negri at 630 something..
good.job on price stopping...
Can you post an ebay link to that price?
thanksstopping
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Here is the link $545 you may be able to make a best offer on a few of the seller's other item. Don't know how they do it but it shipped to me really fast..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160709304834?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
also you can try this seller. My buddy at work got his from here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SAMSUNG...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item2ebb38feeb
That's all he had left. I don't see the one I got. but if you check the feedback you will see its legit.

The 7.0 Plus $Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Samsung-Gal...plus+3g&_pcatid=839&_pcategid=58058&_from=R40

You list one from Australia and one from the UK. Did either you or your friend get hit with Customs charges? That can make a real difference in price.
The Hong Kong merchants seem to be very creative at avoiding Customs charges (they lie).

No customs
I got mine for Austriala.. .didn't have any customs fees. The one from hong kong had no customs fees. it was listed as a photo frame on the form. so there was no custom import fee..

alynch75 said:
Okay guys,,,,,
Here's the deal I purchased this version of the 7.7
https://www.atgsm.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Phone-SamsungP6800Silver
I only paid $545 for it on ebay. Will tmoible's 3G work on this thing. I know that AT&T 3G works. Funny thing is I put my SIM Card into it and it worked great. Even made calls that were clear to hear via my bluetooth headset. I logged onto AT&T with my home computer and it showed as an unsuportted device so I chose the $15 non-smartphone unlimtted data feature and it worked for a day or 2. Now this morning I got a message .... a text message and an email stating I need to purchase a data plan for tablet or broadband device. I quickly put the sim card back into my old LG C550 flip phone which has media net and sports etc.. a non smart phone.
Question: Can they do this?
Question: How do they know its a tablet if these are internatinal versions.
Question: How can they opt to change your data feature
Question: Why do I need to purchase a data plan even when I didn't get a subsidized device. If I'd known that before I would just opt for an AT&T device.
hmmmmm.. .Makes me think about cancelling my service with AT&T when my contract ends in a few months....
Please help me out here.
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so, nobody got confused here? am I the only one?
1st of all your title said that you had the 3g/wifi version, and you gave the link for it, meanwhile, you get it a lot cheaper on ebay, which kinda tempting me to get one
i go through on all your link, the one you get yours ($545) and the one your friend get, and both of them are wifi only, yet you stated that you put in your sim card, and you get 3g on AT&T?
are you under prescription or something?
and there's the 3rd link about 7.0 plus aka P6200 which confused me even more, about what's the point of that link you gave? duh

Wow My apologies
Justin^Tan said:
so, nobody got confused here? am I the only one?
1st of all your title said that you had the 3g/wifi version, and you gave the link for it, meanwhile, you get it a lot cheaper on ebay, which kinda tempting me to get one
i go through on all your link, the one you get yours ($545) and the one your friend get, and both of them are wifi only, yet you stated that you put in your sim card, and you get 3g on AT&T?
are you under prescription or something?
and there's the 3rd link about 7.0 plus aka P6200 which confused me even more, about what's the point of that link you gave? duh
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I assure you I have the 3G international version. I will post a copy of my receipt. My apologies for the incorrect link. I will get it and post it shortly. I can't find the link however as one of the posters replied negri has it on sale. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know but it works and I stand by my posts. Do you need me to post videos or photos of me inserting the SIM card and getting the AT&T 3G and of me making a phone call. I can do that. The intention of my initial post was not to post a deal....it was simply a few questions I had about the device and AT&T practices. There are many other sources where you can obtain price cuts and deals just search with GOOGLE. On anohter note.....AMAZON has a few sellers who sell the item. There are 4 or 5 online and or local stores located in New York City also. I hope this helps. If I come across a good deal froma reputatble seller I will post it.

nah, no need. since you already admit that it was wrong link you posted
I just had a glimpse of hope of getting tab 7.7 for quite cheap like you did, but I did need 3g, not wifi only ^^
I dont live in NYC so local store is out of question for me
They did release it in my country but its the 32gb version and pretty expensive I'd say (around $820)
Whilst i already have 32gb micro sd so I think 16gb version is enough

alynch75 said:
I assure you I have the 3G international version. I will post a copy of my receipt. My apologies for the incorrect link. I will get it and post it shortly. I can't find the link however as one of the posters replied negri has it on sale. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know but it works and I stand by my posts. Do you need me to post videos or photos of me inserting the SIM card and getting the AT&T 3G and of me making a phone call. I can do that. The intention of my initial post was not to post a deal....it was simply a few questions I had about the device and AT&T practices. There are many other sources where you can obtain price cuts and deals just search with GOOGLE. On anohter note.....AMAZON has a few sellers who sell the item. There are 4 or 5 online and or local stores located in New York City also. I hope this helps. If I come across a good deal froma reputatble seller I will post it.
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I am curious...
Your first post, you said you paid 545 for thr 3G version....
but incorrectly inserted the wrong links..
Then a few post later.. you said yes indeed you got the 3g version for 545 again... and posted another link or 2...
Both these links showed Wi-Fi versions only..
Im curious as to a correct link to your 545 dollar 3g version...
thanks for making this happen.....
Id like to recommend your seller to another person...
IF you can supply a link to the 3g version at $545...
thanks.... Jim

I got lucky
jimmbomb said:
I am curious...
Your first post, you said you paid 545 for thr 3G version....
but incorrectly inserted the wrong links..
Then a few post later.. you said yes indeed you got the 3g version for 545 again... and posted another link or 2...
Both these links showed Wi-Fi versions only..
Im curious as to a correct link to your 545 dollar 3g version...
thanks for making this happen.....
Id like to recommend your seller to another person...
IF you can supply a link to the 3g version at $545...
thanks.... Jim
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I posted the link however as stated it was an incorrect link. I think I may have just got lucky and the seller sent me a 3G version or maybe the seller had the wrong decription either way... I am glad I got a deal. I don't know what else to tell you. You could possilby wait a few months and anticipate the price dropping due to all the new devices slated to hit the scene. As many of us know playing the waiting game for prices or next generation hardware is futile. I'd say..... buy the best you can get for the price you can pay and use the device the way you want. I find it is often pointless to wish for the stars knowing you don't want to part with your hard earned cash. So its either pay up or just play the waiting game. I don't mean to sound sarcastic but I have been getting private messages from people blasting me about the link I posted and how I need to hurry up and post the correct link. I posted the link that I used to get the device..... "Maybe the seller botched up and sent me the wrong item""" Good for me I guess ............ In any event I'd say stick with what you can afford and if not just don't buy anything .........

You can try this one.. very good
Yes its $645 but you do get it overnight from overseas to USA>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280803711139?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Note 3 blocked by T-Mobile, need advice

Hey guys, i've got a problem and I need some advice/options.
Long story short, as some of you may know, I bought my T-Mobile branded Note 3 on Swappa in November. Of course, Swappa says that they check IMEIs and the seller assured me that the phone was fully paid for, but a few days ago my Note 3 was blocked/blacklisted (whatever you call it) by T-Mobile for non-payment of EIP.
I have tried to resolve the issue through communicating with the seller and Swappa, but there's really nothing to be done. The seller won't refund my money, Swappa is powerless, and Paypal says the transaction is past their 45 day dispute period. The phone isn't even unlocked, so I can't even try and use it on another carrier right now.
So at this point i'm trying to minimize my losses. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can either:
1. find a way to get the phone unlocked and use it on another carrier (I know that when a T-Mobile phone is blocked or blacklisted, they share that info now with AT&T, but i'm hoping I can use it on Simple Mobile or Straight Talk or Walmart's service)
or
2. sell the phone internationally (with full disclosure of the fact that the phone is blocked on T-Mobile/AT&T of course, but it shouldn't matter if someone wants to use it outside of the US, right?)
or
3. sell the phone as a 'dev' device (at a substantial loss i'm sure), but I have no idea how to do this or even whether a dev would want a phone that is blocked (don't they need to test network stuff?).
I'm trying to find a way to make the best of a bad situation. Any one who reads this post and wants to give me some decent advice is welcome. But if you just want to start trolling PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I have enough problems as it is right now.
In any case, i've learned my lesson. No more Craigslist, no more Negri, no more Swappa. I'm just gonna pony up the money and get my phones directly from T-Mobile. The money I thought I was saving doesn't look like such a deal anymore.

Ah damn, yeah seems a lot of people have fallen into the same trap you have unfortunately.
Well you could try another network. . However the chances are high that it'll be blocked all over the US. - yes you could sell it internationally and disclose the issue but the frequency has a different range(?) - this would probably be your best option.
If not then you'd just have to take the hit on it, toss it away or use as a media device. And put it down to a very bad lesson learnt the hard way :-/
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radicalisto said:
Ah damn, yeah seems a lot of people have fallen into the same trap you have unfortunately.
Well you could try another network. . However the chances are high that it'll be blocked all over the US. - yes you could sell it internationally and disclose the issue but the frequency has a different range(?) - this would probably be your best option.
If not then you'd just have to take the hit on it, toss it away or use as a media device. And put it down to a very bad lesson learnt the hard way :-/
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Appreciate the response, but now way I could toss $650 away. It took me a few months to save that up. That's why i'm trying to salvage whatever I can of this situation.
Perhaps there's a Canadian carrier uses the same frequencies as T-Mobile? Anyone know a site that would help me compare GSM bands/frequencies to see which countries would be the best option for reselling?

You could have a scan on gsmarena they detail frequencies on the different models.
Yeah it's definitely an expensive error for sure, assume T - Mobile aren't too keen to help at all then?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

radicalisto said:
You could have a scan on gsmarena they detail frequencies on the different models.
Yeah it's definitely an expensive error for sure, assume T - Mobile aren't too keen to help at all then?
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No, T-Mobile won't give me any info because i'm not the original account holder for the phone. T-Mobile will probably go after that person, but it's probably just a tax write off for them.

Try RegionLock away on Play store or buy an unlock code then try with a pre-paid service. GL

RMXO said:
Try RegionLock away on Play store or buy an unlock code then try with a pre-paid service. GL
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Won't help.... Phone has been blacklisted...
Unless you can get the carrier to take it off the blacklist it won't be allowed to connect to any network in that country (theoretically)...
Just a thought though - if the phone hasn't been paid for to the carrier, it's on the blacklist and you are caught trying to use it, you may find yourself charged with possession of stolen goods... Unless you have a receipt that states it was sold to you. Either way though you will loose the phone...

Techngro said:
Hey guys, i've got a problem and I need some advice/options.
Long story short, as some of you may know, I bought my T-Mobile branded Note 3 on Swappa in November. Of course, Swappa says that they check IMEIs and the seller assured me that the phone was fully paid for, but a few days ago my Note 3 was blocked/blacklisted (whatever you call it) by T-Mobile for non-payment of EIP.
I have tried to resolve the issue through communicating with the seller and Swappa, but there's really nothing to be done. The seller won't refund my money, Swappa is powerless, and Paypal says the transaction is past their 45 day dispute period. The phone isn't even unlocked, so I can't even try and use it on another carrier right now.
So at this point i'm trying to minimize my losses. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can either:
1. find a way to get the phone unlocked and use it on another carrier (I know that when a T-Mobile phone is blocked or blacklisted, they share that info now with AT&T, but i'm hoping I can use it on Simple Mobile or Straight Talk or Walmart's service)
or
2. sell the phone internationally (with full disclosure of the fact that the phone is blocked on T-Mobile/AT&T of course, but it shouldn't matter if someone wants to use it outside of the US, right?)
or
3. sell the phone as a 'dev' device (at a substantial loss i'm sure), but I have no idea how to do this or even whether a dev would want a phone that is blocked (don't they need to test network stuff?).
I'm trying to find a way to make the best of a bad situation. Any one who reads this post and wants to give me some decent advice is welcome. But if you just want to start trolling PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I have enough problems as it is right now.
In any case, i've learned my lesson. No more Craigslist, no more Negri, no more Swappa. I'm just gonna pony up the money and get my phones directly from T-Mobile. The money I thought I was saving doesn't look like such a deal anymore.
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bad luck for you.
But i can tell you a thing or 2 about selling phone internationally.
your t-mobile fone can be used here in SEA region and for the N3 its probably multi band.so selling it internationally shouldn't be an issue for you.but you'll probably want to sell it at a huge discount.
from past experience,t-mobile's GSM frequency is the same as those in my country and i have no issues using T-mo fone here.my signature should tell you what t-mo fones i had.but i cannot say if the 4g band is the same though.so dun worry about the GSM band being compatible or not,that's the buyer's responsibility.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands)
i am not sure if there is a way to sim unlock your fone without having to buy a unlock code(i noe the sensation 4g had a way to remove sim lock altogether),if you do find a way,there is no harm testing to see if you can still use the fone on other networks.
take it as a hard lesson learned bro but dun give up trying other ways to use your fone,i am pretty sure the journey is educational.like how i tried to make t-mo fones work in my country.

I might be wrong but its only blacklisted IMEI NUMBER? in UK its illegal to change it. But I think you end up selling it OK on ebay
with NO RETURNS OR REFUND!
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ultramag69 said:
Won't help.... Phone has been blacklisted...
Unless you can get the carrier to take it off the blacklist it won't be allowed to connect to any network in that country (theoretically)...
Just a thought though - if the phone hasn't been paid for to the carrier, it's on the blacklist and you are caught trying to use it, you may find yourself charged with possession of stolen goods... Unless you have a receipt that states it was sold to you. Either way though you will loose the phone...
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Yes, I do have a receipt from both Paypal and Swappa. But I think would only work if it has been reported lost or stolen by the original owner. I don't think that's the case. T-Mobile said it was blocked for non-payment of EIP. Guess the guy just flipped the phone as soon as he signed the contract. People suck.
frostmore said:
bad luck for you.
But i can tell you a thing or 2 about selling phone internationally.
your t-mobile fone can be used here in SEA region and for the N3 its probably multi band.so selling it internationally shouldn't be an issue for you.but you'll probably want to sell it at a huge discount.
from past experience,t-mobile's GSM frequency is the same as those in my country and i have no issues using T-mo fone here.my signature should tell you what t-mo fones i had.but i cannot say if the 4g band is the same though.so dun worry about the GSM band being compatible or not,that's the buyer's responsibility.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands)
i am not sure if there is a way to sim unlock your fone without having to buy a unlock code(i noe the sensation 4g had a way to remove sim lock altogether),if you do find a way,there is no harm testing to see if you can still use the fone on other networks.
take it as a hard lesson learned bro but dun give up trying other ways to use your fone,i am pretty sure the journey is educational.like how i tried to make t-mo fones work in my country.
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Yes, very educational. I used to buy my phone on Craigslist. I never once got scammed. But then Craigslist turned into Scam Central Station. So I went to Swappa because they use Paypal and I thought that would give me some protection. Turns out, the only way to ensure that you won't get a phone that will be blocked or blacklisted later is to get it directly from the source. It's turning out to be an expensive lesson. :crying:
How much of a discount do you normally get when you purchase a T-Mobile phone? I don't want to lose $200. It would make more sense to just get a cheap 4G phone and tether it to my Note 3 and use it as a little tablet.
jowett69 said:
I might be wrong but its only blacklisted IMEI NUMBER? in UK its illegal to change it. But I think you end up selling it OK on ebay
with NO RETURNS OR REFUND!
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Yes, I would have to do it that way, but i'm worried now about losing too much money trying to sell it. If I sell it internationally, I don't see why I should lose that much, since the T-Mobile block only applies to the US.

Another option?
I really don't want to lose my $30 5GB plan. I've been looking on Amazon and saw that they have some cheap T-Mobile 4G phones like this Nokia Lumia 521: http://goo.gl/KgvOgR
My thought is, I can purchase that, tether my Note 3 to it and keep using it. 90% of what I do on my Note 3 is data/browsing, gaming, etc. So if I can tether to the Lumia, I guess it would work.
Any thoughts?

Was the Paypal transaction a credit card one? If so, I would contact them directly (you may have recourse for up to 3 months?). I use Paypal but always use my credit card to pay for items and never my bank account because Paypal will not stand behind the purchase if they have a way out.

FedUpx2 said:
Was the Paypal transaction a credit card one? If so, I would contact them directly (you may have recourse for up to 3 months?). I use Paypal but always use my credit card to pay for items and never my bank account because Paypal will not stand behind the purchase if they have a way out.
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No, unfortunately, it was a bank account. Sigh...

UPDATE
So here's an update on my situation.
After considering my options, I ordered a Straight Talk AT&T sim card a few days ago. It was only $7 with free shipping, so I figured I might as well give it a try. It got here today, so I got Chainfire's RegionLock Away app and followed the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742) to unlock my Note 3 using the Straight Talk sim card. Didn't have a single problem getting it unlocked. Total cost to unlock ~ $10.
Once it was unlocked, I signed up for the $45 Straight Talk plan (which ends up around $50 with taxes/fees), and after a couple of reboots, I have service. The service seems pretty fast, but I don't want to do a speedtest because it's just a waste of my limited data allotment. It shows as being 4G LTE, but I don't know if that's the case.
So, I pay $20 more for half the data, and I have a Note 3 that is worth considerably less than what I paid for it only a couple of months ago on Swappa. I've definitely learned a valuable lesson here. But at least I have a working phone, so there's that.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.

That's awesome and glad you are able to use the phone normally.

Techngro said:
So here's an update on my situation.
After considering my options, I ordered a Straight Talk AT&T sim card a few days ago. It was only $7 with free shipping, so I figured I might as well give it a try. It got here today, so I got Chainfire's RegionLock Away app and followed the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742) to unlock my Note 3 using the Straight Talk sim card. Didn't have a single problem getting it unlocked. Total cost to unlock ~ $10.
Once it was unlocked, I signed up for the $45 Straight Talk plan (which ends up around $50 with taxes/fees), and after a couple of reboots, I have service. The service seems pretty fast, but I don't want to do a speedtest because it's just a waste of my limited data allotment. It shows as being 4G LTE, but I don't know if that's the case.
So, I pay $20 more for half the data, and I have a Note 3 that is worth considerably less than what I paid for it only a couple of months ago on Swappa. I've definitely learned a valuable lesson here. But at least I have a working phone, so there's that.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.
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Sorry to hear about your problems. Even though a couple people had the same issue with phones from Negri Electronics, mine purchased from Negri still says that the IMEI is not recognized when checked and it works fine on T-Mobile or AT&T (tested with sister's T-Mobile SIM and daily use with AT&T grandfathered Unlimited) with LTE. I am very happy. T-Mobile was going to make me spend $791 + at least 45 days of unwanted service before I could even request an unlock and they have 7 days to respond (52 days of unwanted service?). That's not a deal.
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CZroe said:
Sorry to hear about your problems. Even though a couple people had the same issue with phones from Negri Electronics, mine purchased from Negri still says that the IMEI is not recognized when checked and it works fine on T-Mobile or AT&T (tested with sister's T-Mobile SIM and daily use with AT&T grandfathered Unlimited) with LTE. I am very happy. T-Mobile was going to make me spend $791 + at least 45 days of unwanted service before I could even request an unlock and they have 7 days to respond (52 days of unwanted service?). That's not a deal.
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Well, i'm glad that Negri made someone happy. There were plenty of people on this forum who felt they were getting scammed by them and had to cancel preorders after waiting 3 weeks for a shipment that never happened.
You might feel you're getting a deal, and maybe you are, and i'm glad for you. But for me, as I said, I learned a very expensive lesson from my experiences with both Negri and Swappa. It's only a deal when it works out the way you want it to. When you get screwed like I did, it stops being a deal. Not only did my phone get blocked, I now pay more money for less service. The extra $100 in savings isn't worth the risk for me anymore.

Nexus 6 Japan Thread

Model: XT1100
Y!Mobile did sell this phone originally and I think you can still get the phone and do the 2 year payoff thing. Else just buy on Amazon Japan
@xBeerdroiDx's Nexus 6 All-In-One Beginner's Guide
Recommended ROMs:
[ROM][7.0.0_r4] Nutty-Nexus | OMS | 09.06.16
My guide to flash Nutty Nexus with Magisk
[ROM][Stock+][MOB31E]&[NPD90G]Prerooted-Debloated-Deoxeded-Busybox-Fast & Stable
Kick ass work @RatchetPanda and @tupac4u!
OLD stuffs, good to know if you are switching carriers:
For all of you military guys wanting to get the N6 in Japan: Thanks @Androktasie!
Androktasie said:
I managed to get SoftBank service for a Nexus 6. Posting this in case anyone follows in my footsteps. Unfortunately I cannot post direct links, so look for the links at the bottom of the post.
Yodobashi Camera does NOT sell the Nexus 6 without a Y!Mobile contract. Believe me, I've tried. Your best bet is to pay cash to someone who has a Japanese credit or debit card, and have them order the phone for you from the Japanese Google store.
If you're like me and decide to go with SoftBank for their English, wifi and military support like I did, you CAN actually get a 4G postpaid contract for your own phone. The staff might say it's impossible since you didn't buy the phone from them. They're either misinformed, or lying. I eventually did get service, but had to go through a convoluted maze, with Sprint's truly amazing customer service ultimately leading the charge and getting the right SoftBank managers lined up to actually help me. (I would have gone with DoCoMo, but they had problems with my MasterCard).
If you're going to be staying here for 2+ years and are bringing your own phone that has a Giteki mark[1] like the international Nexus 6 does, ask SoftBank to give you a "USIMカード(F)" (USIM Card (F)) . I've no idea what the (F) stands for, but the card itself is white and comes in a silver envelope. It also had perforations for nano/micro/standard SIM card sizes. I was set up with the "Sumahoudai" plan described here[2] that has unlimited calling and configurable data allotments.
If you end up getting the same USIM card as I did, you need to use these APN settings[3]. The ones in the first post do not work, nor do the ones on SoftBank's english website. In fact, I couldn't find these settings on any English-language site at all, so here they are.
APN: plus.4g
user: plus
pass: 4g
I can verify that the SoftBank wifi app[4] also works on the Nexus 6. If your Play Store shows it as incompatible, ask a native to grab the APK for you, even if they're on a different carrier.
Code:
[1] http://www.blogfromamerica.com/english/archives/60
[2] http://www.softbank.jp/mobile/price_plan/smartphone/sumahodai/details/"
[3] http://www.softbank.jp/mobile/support/usim/portout_procedure/
[4] http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.softbank.wispr.froyo&hl=en
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How to get your N6 working with different carriers:
Docomo (updated the steps from this guide)
First of all, you need a nano sim from NTT Docomo, so go to the shop and buy one. and whilst you are there, ask to turn sp-mode off and mopra U on.
If you already have a nano sim and you dont want to deal with the Docomo drone, do the below to change it yourself.
Go to My Docomo and login
Click "ご契約内容確認・変更" (you can just ctrl+f and paste it there if you cant find it)
Go to the last page (page 3 for me) where the sp-mode and mopra options are available
Click the button next to mopra, then check the agreement box (mopera Uの利用規約・注意事項に同意する)
Leave all the options below the same and the just click next until it is complete
Now we do the same for sp-mode as you no longer need it, should be a bit above the mopra section
Check the agreement box (spモード の注意事項に同意する) and next until it is done.
I havent tested it, but I just updated the guide mentioned above with the new docomo menus.
Softbank
1. Open Settings > More > Cellular Networks > Access Point Names
2. Click the + to add a new Access Point
3. Enter in this data:
APN:: jpspir
プロキシ:未設定
ポート:未設定
ユーザ名:: sirobit
パスワード : amstkoi
サーバー：未設定
MMSC:　mms/ (i can't enter URL's so please put the proper h t t p : // before mms)
MMSポート: 8080
MCC: 440
MNC: 20
認証タイプ:　未設定
APNタイプ:　未設定
APNプロトコル:　IPv4
APNローミングプロトコル: IPv4
APNの有効/無効: 有効
ベアラー: 指定なし
MVNOの種類: None
MVNO値: 未設定
AU
Finding a reliable source.
Original post:
So this will only be available from Y!mobile, which previously was emobile (correct me if I am wrong).
I will be switching from NTT Docomo and will probably use my SGSIII alpha (SC03E) as a paper weight.
Anyone in the same boat?
Common APNs:
Y!Mobile:
APN: plus.acs.jp
User Name: ym
Password: ym
MCC: 440
MNC: 20
Authentication: CHAP
Softbank:
APN: plus.4g
user: plus
pass: 4g

IparryU said:
So this will only be available from Y!mobile, which previously was emobile (correct me if I am wrong).
I will be switching from NTT Docomo and will probably use my SGSIII alpha (SC03E) as a paper weight.
Anyone in the same boat?
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I currently have a Nexus 5 with emobile/Y! mobile/whatever they are called today. Plan to get the Nexus 6 on a new contract, swap the sims and give the old phone with new sim to the wife and keep the old sim in the new phone. Don't think there will be any problems.
Nexus 5 is too small for me.............bit big for my wife, though.

schizm7278 said:
I currently have a Nexus 5 with emobile/Y! mobile/whatever they are called today. Plan to get the Nexus 6 on a new contract, swap the sims and give the old phone with new sim to the wife and keep the old sim in the new phone. Don't think there will be any problems.
Nexus 5 is too small for me.............bit big for my wife, though.
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Good to hear, I am going to get a contract as soon as the Nexus 6 is out! Any Idea when they will have the Nexus 6 available?

IparryU said:
Good to hear, I am going to get a contract as soon as the Nexus 6 is out! Any Idea when they will have the Nexus 6 available?
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No idea, but hopefully quicker than the time it took to bring the nexus 5 over.

don't they sell it on google japan playstore????

"Not available in this region."

Nexus 5 was also available in Japan w/o contract and also available through Amazon.
So why not the N6?
I would say, not yet available

tom1807 said:
Nexus 5 was also available in Japan w/o contract and also available through Amazon.
So why not the N6?
I would say, not yet available
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I did see a Nexus 9 add though:
http://www.biccamera.com/bicbic/jsp/w/pc/nexus9/index.jsp?ref=toppage
Also on play store:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_9_black_16gb_wifi
WHY NOT NEXUS 6?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?
Just have to wait for Y!mobile then...

Amazon Japan has also the N9, so why not sooner or later the N6:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/Google-Android-8-9inch-NVIDIA-99HZF051-00/sim/B00OK1MCXS/2/
Also the Folio Cover but USD 149.00!!!

IparryU said:
So this will only be available from Y!mobile, which previously was emobile (correct me if I am wrong).
I will be switching from NTT Docomo and will probably use my SGSIII alpha (SC03E) as a paper weight.
Anyone in the same boat?
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I found the information from kakau but I cant find any other information even in Japanese so Is this a rumors or is it fact ?

aussieinjapan said:
I found the information from kakau but I cant find any other information even in Japanese so Is this a rumors or is it fact ?
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http://www.ymobile.jp/corporate/press/2014/1016.html

Thanks !
Cant wait to see what the price of it will be !

aussieinjapan said:
Thanks !
Cant wait to see what the price of it will be !
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http://www.ymobile.jp/lineup/nexus6/index.html
w00t!
From December everyone!

So I went to Y! Mobile today to figure out the easiest way to transfer over free m another carrier and get a N6.
Go to your current carrier and ask to switch your current phone number over to another carrier.
Go to Y! Mobile and show it to the drone in the front. They will sit you down and carry you through the process.
Documents to bring:
Passport
Zairyu card (or gaijin card if you still haven't got the new card yet...)
If you want to pay for the phone monthly, you need to have at least 2 years left on your visa. This ****ed everything up for me....
Go back to your old carrier the next day to make sure that you don't habe any outstanding paymemts and enjoy your new phone!
Note that i haven't changed over yet... Just went to make things easier.

This will also be sold on the play store from mid December, so no need to mess around with Y? Mobile.

Yes, but some people dont want to blow JPY 80000 all at once

Not Japan related, but best goddamn review ever...
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2n87xa/my_review_of_this_damn_phone_i_hope_this_helps/

Nexus 6 Product Page on Y-mobile
FYI, the Nexus 6 product page is up and running on y-mobile's homepage. Should be available any day now.

godzillajason said:
FYI, the Nexus 6 product page is up and running on y-mobile's homepage. Should be available any day now.
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https://store.ymobile.jp/yoyaku/index1.html
I will be getting it from play store, but glad the day is getting nearer!
Pricing is a bit different though...
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_6_32GB_Midnight_Blue?id=nexus_6_blue_32gb

Y! Mobile are taking reservations from today, and the phone will go on sale from the 11th.
Prices are for the 32GB and 64GB models will be 69,600 and 79,200 yen respectively (ex. tax).
So, no cheaper than buying from the Play Store...... which is where I will be getting one, if I decide I just can't wait for a 64bit phone next year.