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Questions on selling a phone

I think I'm going to pony up a few hundy to get an iphone since I like its browser capabilities and am tired of my phone's extra bulk.
Questions are (a) what's the best place to sell it other than ebay ? (b) I guess I must keep the sim but what does the buyer do to get another one ? (c) does ne1 know if I can just activate an iphone with an existing account ?
Gotta say I'll miss the APmemo's free-form stylus input which I use quite a bit.
Thanks a bunch

bdbx18 said:
I think I'm going to pony up a few hundy to get an iphone since I like its browser capabilities and am tired of my phone's extra bulk.
Questions are (a) what's the best place to sell it other than ebay ? (b) I guess I must keep the sim but what does the buyer do to get another one ? (c) does ne1 know if I can just activate an iphone with an existing account ?
Gotta say I'll miss the APmemo's free-form stylus input which I use quite a bit.
Thanks a bunch
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a) No idea.
b) They can do anything they want. Either pay-as-you-go or contract. HOWEVER, if it is not SIM Unlocked (ie you bought it from a phone provider such as T-Mobile and they subsidised the price of the phone and locked it to only accept SIM cards for their network) they will require a SIM from the same provider you bought it from UNLESS you (or they) unlock it.
Note this doesn't apply to phones which are supplied unlocked such as phones from Dopod and HTC.
For details on how to unlock a Hermes, see the page on the wiki here
c) No idea, but I would guess it would be SIM locked, probably to AT&T, so as long as you have an account with AT&T you can use it.
This method of unlocking an iPhone made me chuckle, although I don't know enough about the iPhone to be capable of saying whether its worth it.

Thanks but mine is already unlocked.
I guess I'll need to talk to ATT about transfering the plan.
Cavey.co.uk said:
a) No idea.
b) They can do anything they want. Either pay-as-you-go or contract. HOWEVER, if it is not SIM Unlocked (ie you bought it from a phone provider such as T-Mobile and they subsidised the price of the phone and locked it to only accept SIM cards for their network) they will require a SIM from the same provider you bought it from UNLESS you (or they) unlock it.
Note this doesn't apply to phones which are supplied unlocked such as phones from Dopod and HTC.
For details on how to unlock a Hermes, see the page on the wiki here
c) No idea, but I would guess it would be SIM locked, probably to AT&T, so as long as you have an account with AT&T you can use it.
This method of unlocking an iPhone made me chuckle, although I don't know enough about the iPhone to be capable of saying whether its worth it.
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Why are we talking about an iPhone in this forum?
I thought you need the iPhone plan to use the iPhone with AT&T, not your existing plan.
I have no idea of where you live but I use Craigslist to sell all of my phones.
If you are selling your phone, just take out the SIM, they should have their own. If they don't they can just go to the store and get one.

Unlocked X10a

It seems that the majority of X10's in the market seem to be the X10i variant, however I am trying to locate the X10a, so I can use it with AT&T 3G.
I found a few small retailer sites that do say they offer the x10a, but seeing as they aren't exactly the most reputable of online stores, I am a bit hesitant to order.
Has anyone found unlocked X10a's sold directly from SE? Or is my only option to get one from a wireless provider outside the US that supports AT&T 3G bands such as Rogers?

Yup, or from a Canadian/US seller on Ebay, or from a Canadian friend who owes you a big favor.

go to amazon and search "xperia x10a" there is one that is 564.99. it doesnt say which bands are on it, the others that come up with the search all say 900/1700/2100. you might could call the seller or amazon and see if it is the x10a or x10i. they should be able to look at the box and tell you.
cant find anywhere other than that possibility. I bought one off of ebay. most expensive thing i have ever bought on ebay, scared me to death, but everything turned out fine. just look for a reputable seller on ebay with lots of positive feedback, use paypal, hope for the best.
i can say this, i love this phone, also using it on ATT. with the rumors that ATT are forcing nexus one users to use the $30 data plan instead of the $15 ($10 on family plan), i couldnt come up with a better android phone to use on ATT.

i can unlock x10
hi everyone, i can unlock x10 via code. email me at [email protected] and include your contact number.

just wait, X10 is coming to AT&T.

Thanks for the input guys.
I've found a site that sells it for about $614 and free shipping. They accept Paypal payments, so at least I feel a little safer with their buyer protection. I'll let you guys know when/if I receive the correct product.
As for waiting for AT&T to start carrying the X10, that's not an option for me for a few reasons. First, my N97 is on it's way out. It's beginning to seem really sluggish and the slide lock key fell off... Second is that I have the unlimited data plan, and would not like to be forced to downgrade to their 2GB data cap. Lastly, after hearing how AT&T is locking down some aspects of their Android software such as in the HTC Aria, I would rather not let them get their hands on my phone.

unknown13x said:
just wait, X10 is coming to AT&T.
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I don't believe it will.
I remember reading this about eight months ago and now with the Samsung Captivate headed there I can't see them bringing in the X10.

k0sun7eash3d said:
Thanks for the input guys.
I've found a site that sells it for about $614 and free shipping. They accept Paypal payments, so at least I feel a little safer with their buyer protection. I'll let you guys know when/if I receive the correct product.
As for waiting for AT&T to start carrying the X10, that's not an option for me for a few reasons. First, my N97 is on it's way out. It's beginning to seem really sluggish and the slide lock key fell off... Second is that I have the unlimited data plan, and would not like to be forced to downgrade to their 2GB data cap. Lastly, after hearing how AT&T is locking down some aspects of their Android software such as in the HTC Aria, I would rather not let them get their hands on my phone.
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Ouch, rogers quoted me 499 plus

Just posting a follow up.
I received my X10 last night, only took about a week, i suspect had i ordered the phone on monday morning instead of night, I would have had it by Friday.
I did receive an X10a, but it was a Rogers branded phone, already sim-unlocked.
If anyone wants the seller information so they can order it for themselves, pm me.

Just curious, but how could you tell it was rogers branded? Was there a rogers startup screen, or rogers apps somewhere, or physical rogers logo on the phone exterior or something? The reason i ask is because i bought mine used on ebay, and when i popped my att sim in and powered up, there was never any hint that it had anything to do with rogers, or any other carrier. I have just always wondered if there was some way to figure out where the phone originated from. I checked th service info or system info or whateverr from the secret menu, but all it said was custom. Anyway, glad you got your hands on one. I got it as my first android phone, came from a nokia n95, and overall have been pleased with it. Certain things i miss, but the goods have definitely outweighed the bads.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

uabtodd said:
Just curious, but how could you tell it was rogers branded? Was there a rogers startup screen,
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
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Yup, there is a Rogers screen after the initial Sony Ericsson screen. Also, there are a couple of Rogers apps, the moxier apps.
Most important, whether Rogers or stock, if it is a X10a, it should say so under settings -about phone -model number - x10a.

Oh, it is definitely an x10a, came in a sony ericsson box with x10a on the barcode and everything, and in the device info is listed as an x10a, has the att 3g bands and works fine. I have just been curious since I got it if it originally came from a wireless carrier in another country. When I bought the thing, I thought that the only x10a models that were made were made for rogers, i wasnt aware that they even made a generic, factory unlocked, unbranded version of the x10a.
btw, i believe moxier apps are standard on all xperia x10's, regardless of i or a designation, or carrier branding.

Yeah, the Rogers carrier logo on boot was the dead giveaway for me. Also the fact that I couldn't manually change configure the AT&T apn until I unbranded it.
I am pleasantly surprised by the speed of the X10 though. It puts my hd2 to shame.
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Which HD2 should I get

I want a HD2 to use with at&t 3g the t9193 model but cant decide if I should buy the australian version or if I should spend a little more money and get the version that on the go solutions has. I cant post a url for being a new member. but its the version on the fist page of their website. I have read alot into getting this phone but dont think I am capable of flashing the phone and or getting rid of the telstra bloatware. I like the conveniency of everything being done but is it worth paying 900$ for. Thank you.

I wouldn't worry too much about the telstra bloatware... You can uncheck any of the sense tabs that are telstra related and you can run a fix that allows you to remove the top 3 (of 9) links on the home tab as these are normally locked to telstra related items...

I noticed that your radio and rom are both stock for your hd2a. Are u using at&t and if you are is it running good. Can u get rid of that blue telstra home screen and get the nice black one.

does anyone else have any input

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I have got US-Tmobile HD2 and it works great. No issues - but since you are planning keeping your AT&T service, I think that paying $900 for HD2 is way beyond any normal acceptance.
Don't get me wrong - I love my HD2 and plan to keep it at least 1.5-2 years... BUT:
6.5 will be dead pretty soon...
Many more phones are coming out for better price than $900 and having better hardware functions as well...
If I was stretched between AT&T and having 3G needs on it - I would consider good unlocked Android phone...
Just my $0.02

I want my Hd2 to run like the verizon Hd2 how difficult would this be to setup and do you think someone new to this would be able to complete the installation without messing something up? Any input helps thank you. looking into one on ebay but dont want to miss it before the sale is up. Thank You.

does no one want to help me out

I have been weighing the same options over the past few weeks. I have a FUZE. and I am sick of it...lagging, quirky and so on... I want a new phone (and really the HD2) so badly that I was even considering just buying the TMO HD2 for use on ATT to save money and just deal with no 3G speeds.
In the end I have decided to be patient. WP7 is coming out in October or so. If those phones (fast processor, big screens, other cool features) are desirable for my needs and get good reviews - then I might go that way.
At that same time - because of the new OS and Phones release coming in october ---the then technically obsolete WM 6.5 phones should go down in price...including the HD2. So that is my advise - wait and see how it plays out if you can wait until october.
Do not know how accurately this will all pan out - but I can just not bring myself to pay more ($750.00+) than I would for a full blown laptop for a phone (even though I use it more!)
BTW - I guess I never answered the question...and that is if you are not familiar or comfortable with flashing - then the extra money for the OTG solutions full version as an insurance policy against you bricking it is worth it..
Good Luck

aescobar900 said:
I want my Hd2 to run like the verizon Hd2 how difficult would this be to setup and do you think someone new to this would be able to complete the installation without messing something up? Any input helps thank you. looking into one on ebay but dont want to miss it before the sale is up. Thank You.
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Verizon does not have an HD2, the HD2 is a GSM phone VZ is CDMA ..

I LOVE my Telstra HD2 - running on AT&T in the States
I bought mine frm an ebay Seller (ebay name *brno* ) for about $600. Best use of 6 bills I could imagine. He had flased the phone with the Official HTC World-wide English ROM and it rocks. Great customer service too!
Do it, you won't regret it!
MadSci

Well I bought the telstra version from ebay (paid 530$ for everything, not a bad deal). I should be getting it some time next week has to ship from Australia. Guess Ill have to wait and get it before I decide to do any changes to it.

Did you buy your T9193 brand new or used ? I tried to locate the seller but I couldnt ...any help please !
MadSci said:
I bought mine frm an ebay Seller (ebay name *brno* ) for about $600. Best use of 6 bills I could imagine. He had flased the phone with the Official HTC World-wide English ROM and it rocks. Great customer service too!
Do it, you won't regret it!
MadSci
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aescobar900 said:
I want a HD2 to use with at&t 3g the t9193 model but cant decide if I should buy the australian version or if I should spend a little more money and get the version that on the go solutions has. I cant post a url for being a new member. but its the version on the fist page of their website. I have read alot into getting this phone but dont think I am capable of flashing the phone and or getting rid of the telstra bloatware. I like the conveniency of everything being done but is it worth paying 900$ for. Thank you.
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The main problem is whether you buy the t9193 or the tmous hd2, you'll never get 3g on AT&T's network. The U.S. GSM network is slightly different when it comes to 3G specs with the rest of the world and there T-Mobile's network is different from AT&T's 3G network.

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The main problem is whether you buy the t9193 or the tmous hd2, you'll never get 3g on AT&T's network. The U.S. GSM network is slightly different when it comes to 3G specs with the rest of the world and there T-Mobile's network is different from AT&T's 3G network.
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You are half right. You will never get 3G on AT&T's network with Tmous HD2, but you will get 3G on AT&T's network with HD2 T9193 version.

[Q] t-mobile UK logo on Desire HD or not?

I've been with o2 now for about 8 years and to be honest I can't fault their service. However, noticing they won't be offering the Desire HD (I have a Desire at the moment) I have been looking around, and notice t-mobile will be doing some pretty good deals. That, coupled with the recent news you can now use Orange's network, makes it all the more tempting. My question though, being a t-mobile noob, is will they slap a 't-mobile' logo somewhere on the phone? Would much rather have one with no branding but if that's what you have to accept to get an awesome phone and a considerably lower bill.. I'll take the plunge. Apols if this is mentioned elsewhere.
Cheers in advance
amczee

amczee said:
I've been with o2 now for about 8 years and to be honest I can't fault their service. However, noticing they won't be offering the Desire HD (I have a Desire at the moment) I have been looking around, and notice t-mobile will be doing some pretty good deals. That, coupled with the recent news you can now use Orange's network, makes it all the more tempting. My question though, being a t-mobile noob, is will they slap a 't-mobile' logo somewhere on the phone? Would much rather have one with no branding but if that's what you have to accept to get an awesome phone and a considerably lower bill.. I'll take the plunge. Apols if this is mentioned elsewhere.
Cheers in advance
amczee
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I very much doubt there will be branding on the phone itself, like 99 percent no... But if you buy direct from tmob you might have a crappy t-mobile rom on the phone, always best to buy offline or contract at carphone warehouse, or online with mobiles.co.uk or mobilephonesdirect.co.uk
JD

The ROM I can deal with, don't intend to keep the stock ROM going for long but thanks, will check those sites out

I'm 99% sure their won't be any logo. Bought desire from them and there were no markings at all, unlike Vodafone and orange. Only when you boot up the phone then T-Mobile logo appears which is the norm for all network issued mobiles. If you don't even want that then try mobilephonesdirect.com who issue unlocked mobiles with their contracts.

Why do you not get it through this site as they are offering it on O2 if you want to stay with them -
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n442/p83978.aspx#tabsAnchor
If they say you cant do an upgrade change your number onto a PAYG sim and then port the number across

The regular Desire from T-mobile didn't get any hardware branding. So I assume the Desire HD will be the same
There were only light software branding such as a w'n'w icon on the internet and some deleteable bookmarks.
I am getting an upgrade from tmobile but to be sure i am gettign the DHD via Carphone Warehouse to ensure that it is unlocked/brand free.

slateac said:
The regular Desire from T-mobile didn't get any hardware branding. So I assume the Desire HD will be the same
There were only light software branding such as a w'n'w icon on the internet and some deleteable bookmarks.
I am getting an upgrade from tmobile but to be sure i am gettign the DHD via Carphone Warehouse to ensure that it is unlocked/brand free.
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The only thing branded if anything will be the ROM
JD

8XT vs. ATIV S Neo

Ive been reading on some stuff regarding HTC and their lack of providing a true root unlock on their Android devices. So im wondering if its the same for their WP8 offerings? The main thing i want to do once i dev unlock the 8XT is to be able to get wifi sharing working, but im a bit worried that things like that would be locked down. Im not worried about the usage as it would be minimal at best, 1-2 megs a month prob at most.
Then, onto the Samsung issue... ive heard they are quite a bit more open to full rooting/unlocking and then theres the better resolution over the 8XT.
Then you have the price point, the 8XT is at Sams Club, Radio Shack and other places for $80 while at Sprint stores its $150 before $50 rebate. The ATIV S Neo will be $200 out the door and a $50 rebate.
So, your thoughts?

Talon Pro said:
Ive been reading on some stuff regarding HTC and their lack of providing a true root unlock on their Android devices. So im wondering if its the same for their WP8 offerings? The main thing i want to do once i dev unlock the 8XT is to be able to get wifi sharing working, but im a bit worried that things like that would be locked down. Im not worried about the usage as it would be minimal at best, 1-2 megs a month prob at most.
Then, onto the Samsung issue... ive heard they are quite a bit more open to full rooting/unlocking and then theres the better resolution over the 8XT.
Then you have the price point, the 8XT is at Sams Club, Radio Shack and other places for $80 while at Sprint stores its $150 before $50 rebate. The ATIV S Neo will be $200 out the door and a $50 rebate.
So, your thoughts?
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WiFi sharing is locked down. The only method available to unlock it involves sim swapping with different carriers.

WiFi sharing is a built-in feature of the OS, but it will check your data plan for approval before you can use it. If your plan doesn't allow it, then there's no way I know of to reliably work around the restriction. However, we do have wired tethering for Samsung phone (haven't tested the Neo, but it should work) and that seems to bypass the carrier restrictions.
No WP8 phone has a "true root unlock" at all. The OEM policies for Android are quite irrelevant here (and FWIW, HTC does offer a bootloader unlock, which allows completely rooting the phone, on Android). We're working on "rooting" WP8, but so far, no dice except for isolated reports of success on specific models of phone, mostly the Huawei Ascend W1.
The Neo is more expensive than the XT because it's a better phone. Look at the specs; the Neo has a better (and bigger) display, better storage, bigger battery (and it's removable; not sure about that on the XT), and probably better cameras too. The XT will have better audio, but that's probably about it.

I keep using rooting in place of 'being able to unlock and flash' I guess. But an article I read today was complaining about HTC and their 'unlocking' issues.
I'm aware the ATIV does have better specs, but I haven't liked the feel of their HW since the Moment, it just feels cheap and light. Not that the XT isn't light and I don't like that either, coming from the likes of the Touch Pro and Touch Pro2 I currently use. I also don't really want a tablet for a phone lol, but I am disappointed that Sprint keeps wanting WVGA devices from HTC
The reason in looking for the WiFi tether is I'm putting Is Galaxy Tab 2 in my Mazda 6 and would like to use it occasionally for nav, and I doubt it has native USB hosting.
So having said all that, what's the SIM trick?

Talon Pro said:
I keep using rooting in place of 'being able to unlock and flash' I guess. But an article I read today was complaining about HTC and their 'unlocking' issues.
I'm aware the ATIV does have better specs, but I haven't liked the feel of their HW since the Moment, it just feels cheap and light. Not that the XT isn't light and I don't like that either, coming from the likes of the Touch Pro and Touch Pro2 I currently use. I also don't really want a tablet for a phone lol, but I am disappointed that Sprint keeps wanting WVGA devices from HTC
The reason in looking for the WiFi tether is I'm putting Is Galaxy Tab 2 in my Mazda 6 and would like to use it occasionally for nav, and I doubt it has native USB hosting.
So having said all that, what's the SIM trick?
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There is no "SIM trick".
you just need a data plan which allows tethering.

thals1992 said:
WiFi sharing is locked down. The only method available to unlock it involves sim swapping with different carriers.
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There is no "SIM trick".
you just need a data plan which allows tethering.
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This is what i was talking about.

Talon Pro said:
This is what i was talking about.
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I thought I had heard some success with having your primary MO's SIM in first, turn it off, place second MO's SIM in, turn back on, go to your mo config app (on nokia its access point in settings, on HTC its Connection Setup, I have no idea where its at on Samsung.) check if internet sharing is on, and repeat the process to go back to the first MO's settings.
I just didn't recall many people getting it working doing that, because I don't know if Internet Sharing can be relocked; hence I didn't reply in detail at first.
If you pay for it in your plan then it should be automatically enabled anyways......

Ok, so heres a stupid question that im sure i know the answer to.. but... here goes anyways...
Are the days of flashing a phone to another provider like WinMo gone? If you can flash a WP8 phone to work on Page Plus, could you theoretically get it on Sprint too?
It seems that if i want a decent handset that isnt the size of a tablet then a used Nokia is my best bet. 810/820/822's are all over eBay for around $150 and in my area i have T-Mo and Cinci Bell for GSM carriers, but T-Mo is the only one with unlimited data. Which brings up another point. I consider myself a fairly heavy data user, but these days its mostly email and the occasional Twitter website bombing using Opera Mini. I use an average of <300megs/month. So theoretically, i could go to Verizon with the 1GB plan and not worry about it, i just dont know how much more data i would use. Of the apps i mess around with on my wifi Arrive, i use Twitter and Words with Friends the most. Sometimes the eBay app, but i find its cumbersome when i have a real computer within reach nearly all day at work or home.
My biggest concern/***** is that as of Oct 19th ill have been with Sprint for 13 years and they really dont care to keep me that much. Ive had more than one person tell me that, yet despite the ones who say they value my loyalty, cant seem to prove it by offering a free handset, moving my upgrade period up 18 days or offering a 'special plan' like in the past. And they dont have good offerings like in the past and the plans.. ugh. Wheres the carrier that will let me get 200 mins/month with unlimited text/data for around $50 like you used to be able to get?

Talon Pro said:
Ok, so heres a stupid question that im sure i know the answer to.. but... here goes anyways...
Are the days of flashing a phone to another provider like WinMo gone? If you can flash a WP8 phone to work on Page Plus, could you theoretically get it on Sprint too?
It seems that if i want a decent handset that isnt the size of a tablet then a used Nokia is my best bet. 810/820/822's are all over eBay for around $150 and in my area i have T-Mo and Cinci Bell for GSM carriers, but T-Mo is the only one with unlimited data. Which brings up another point. I consider myself a fairly heavy data user, but these days its mostly email and the occasional Twitter website bombing using Opera Mini. I use an average of <300megs/month. So theoretically, i could go to Verizon with the 1GB plan and not worry about it, i just dont know how much more data i would use. Of the apps i mess around with on my wifi Arrive, i use Twitter and Words with Friends the most. Sometimes the eBay app, but i find its cumbersome when i have a real computer within reach nearly all day at work or home.
My biggest concern/***** is that as of Oct 19th ill have been with Sprint for 13 years and they really dont care to keep me that much. Ive had more than one person tell me that, yet despite the ones who say they value my loyalty, cant seem to prove it by offering a free handset, moving my upgrade period up 18 days or offering a 'special plan' like in the past. And they dont have good offerings like in the past and the plans.. ugh. Wheres the carrier that will let me get 200 mins/month with unlimited text/data for around $50 like you used to be able to get?
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Flashing Nokia's - YES! Anything else... idk, I haven't tested.
With having Sprint/PagePlus, you don't have much of a choice, because there aren't any unbranded CDMA phones on the market, there's usually one or variants for the carrier (usually just color options, but sometimes different models) and thats it. I'd personally recommend Verizon (awesome speed, but meh datacaps) for their stable network covering areas that Sprint/AT&T(Or cincinnati-bell for that matter and I'm in cinci )/T-Mobile can't cover. I'd personally just recommend follow whichever has the fastest, but that might not be very friendly on the wallet.
All in all, just stick with a 500mb plan, I usually use that much and I even use metrotube (3rd party youtube app) fairly often. I can't say though, I'm on my mother's plan still and its 20GBs shared with the HomeFusion thingy (VZW is our home ISP, still better than satellite though.)
Or, have you thought of a pay as you go phone? I thought I saw one for AT&T and one for T-Mobile. I can't really recommend anything on price though.
Hope that helps a bit.

Talon Pro said:
I keep using rooting in place of 'being able to unlock and flash' I guess. But an article I read today was complaining about HTC and their 'unlocking' issues.
I'm aware the ATIV does have better specs, but I haven't liked the feel of their HW since the Moment, it just feels cheap and light. Not that the XT isn't light and I don't like that either, coming from the likes of the Touch Pro and Touch Pro2 I currently use. I also don't really want a tablet for a phone lol, but I am disappointed that Sprint keeps wanting WVGA devices from HTC
The reason in looking for the WiFi tether is I'm putting Is Galaxy Tab 2 in my Mazda 6 and would like to use it occasionally for nav, and I doubt it has native USB hosting.
So having said all that, what's the SIM trick?
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Did I read correctly... you're currently using a HTC Touch Pro 2?
What service plan do you currently have with Sprint?
I'm curious since I'm having a similar dilemma you are facing.

Well, as of that post, yes. I just dumped Sprint after 13 years cause i wanted a Nokia and the 810 was exactly what i wanted. I was on the Everything Talk/Text 450 with a special $3.50 unlimited data plan. If you can look past the internet programming itself into Opera's oblivion and the lack of apps for things you have to use the website for, stay with Sprint. I do NOT recommend the 8XT and the ATIV S Neo just wasnt grabbing anything on the 'like' column. So far with T-Mo ive only found one spot i dont have full 4G coverage at and all i need to do is walk out the door to get it back.
Whats crazy is i still only use around 250megs of data and i have Twitter, WWF, 4 emails accounts 2 of which check every 30 mins. Now that i finally got Sims Free installed ill probably use more data, but still, no where near the 2.5gigs i pay for. Also, for two lines, i pay $100/month for unlimited talk/text and 2.5 gigs of data for 2 lines and thats before my 15% discount. Beat that Sprint. Oh, wait, you cant.

Stupid website...

if you're interested in hacking your phone, get the ATIV. Samsung's diagnosis app (built into the phone) is making messing with WP8 easy. You're able to directly edit the registry and do all sorts of stuff