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Any build prop tweaks or minfree settings or suggestions in general
What are you trying to do? Ram is fixed and android handles it pretty efficiently.
I am trying to get as much free RAM as possible on stock rooted. Do you have any suggestions?
To further clarify, I wish to do this at the system level, VS using greenify or other 3rd party solution.
Free ram is useless ram. Don't worry about it. Android handles it well.
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Free ram is useless ram. Don't worry about it. Android handles it well.
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I do appreciate that you think you're helping with your answers, but I do have my reasons for needing and wanting the RAM, so I would appreciate it if instead of answering with your opinion on the matter, if you could provide an actual answer to the question. To provide further details, I do not believe samsung has their memory management down. On stock rooted (and majorly debloated) I should have more than 1gb of RAM free. I have used custom ROMs with bigger system partitions that managed to have up to 1.6 free when in idle. That, coupled with in my personal experience, with more RAM available, it provides better performance. Surely this is some how possible on stock as well.
I used to know how to edit the build.prop back in GB days...or I used a minfree manager? I'm not sure what the appropriate procedure for this would be on JB.
Get build prop editor and go for it then.
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It isn't an opinion. It is a proven fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM. Look it up. This isn't GB. The system takes up a ton of stuff. You should not have over 1GB of free RAM, even on an out of the box S4. You can get it with heavy tweaks and a custom ROM, but you have to be able to find that stuff.
Also, there are many guides that would help you if you took the time to find them instead of posting a question that has been answered before.
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It isn't an opinion. It is a proven fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM. Look it up. This isn't GB. The system takes up a ton of stuff. You should not have over 1GB of free RAM, even on an out of the box S4. You can get it with heavy tweaks and a custom ROM, but you have to be able to find that stuff.
Also, there are many guides that would help you if you took the time to find them instead of posting a question that has been answered before.
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I havent attempted to refute the fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM, only that the more RAM available, the better the user experience. When I was speaking of opinions, I was referring to his ideals that I shouldnt worry about it. I can if I want, especially considering I do believe being able to achieve 1.4 or 1.6 free ram on stock rom will provide a great stable user experience.
I realize this isnt GB. This is why I posted this thread, to inquire and learn. I certainly see no reason why I shouldnt be able to reach over a 1GB of ram with root. I am not speaking in regards to an "out of the box s4". I am speaking in regards to heavy tweaks, which is EXACTLY what I've been inquiring about.
If there are so many guides that pertain to my specific question, why dont you cite a source and put your money where your mouth is. You really believe I havent been sitting on google trying to figure it out myself? Maybe instead of adding to what you consider to be a waste of a thread that has been answered before, perhaps you could end the thread with an answer instead of cockiness.
As a "recognized contributor" I would think you would have a little more poise when interacting with other members.
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I havent attempted to refute the fact that unused RAM is wasted RAM, only that the more RAM available, the better the user experience. When I was speaking of opinions, I was referring to his ideals that I shouldnt worry about it. I can if I want, especially considering I do believe being able to achieve 1.4 or 1.6 free ram on stock rom will provide a great stable user experience.
I realize this isnt GB. This is why I posted this thread, to inquire and learn. I certainly see no reason why I shouldnt be able to reach over a 1GB of ram with root. I am not speaking in regards to an "out of the box s4". I am speaking in regards to heavy tweaks, which is EXACTLY what I've been inquiring about.
If there are so many guides that pertain to my specific question, why dont you cite a source and put your money where your mouth is. You really believe I havent been sitting on google trying to figure it out myself? Maybe instead of adding to what you consider to be a waste of a thread that has been answered before, perhaps you could end the thread with an answer instead of cockiness.
As a "recognized contributor" I would think you would have a little more poise when interacting with other members.
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It is impossible to have more than 3 quarters of the RAM free on a stock S4. I have a heavily tweaked custom TW ROM and get 1.15 GB free on average. You are asking for a bit too much. You will have to drop the stock ROM if you are not on MF3 and go with a highly tweaked, non TW based ROM and a great kernel to get close to what you want.
I personally use SHOStock ROM 2.2, Ktoonz latest TW kernel with KTweaks with the recommended settings, turbo ZRAM, Greenify and Battery Guru to maximize my system. At this current moment, I have 865 MB/1.78 GB RAM.
All of these items are easily found in google or on the first page of the General section, The QA Section, The Games and APP Section, the Original Development section, or the Development section Of this exact forum. Why should I post something for you that is right under your nose? For what you are looking for, Google is not a good source. You will not find one single thing that will help you. You need multiple items and lots of time to fine tune your system. Google is only good for finding one or 2 things unless you know how to use key words.
As a Recognized Contributor, I have been excessively helpful to thousands of people on XDA. I would not have the title if it were untrue. I do however find your original attitude towards jd1639 to be a bit uncalled for. All the answers were on par because your question was not very clear to begin with.
Lets put it this way. You need a complete overhaul to get even close to the amount of memory you seek. It is impossible to have that much free RAM on a TW based ROM. It would be a close call on any non TW based ROM, and I doubt you would even get there.
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It is impossible to have more than 3 quarters of the RAM free on a stock S4. I have a heavily tweaked custom TW ROM and get 1.15 GB free on average. You are asking for a bit too much. You will have to drop the stock ROM if you are not on MF3 and go with a highly tweaked, non TW based ROM and a great kernel to get close to what you want.
I personally use SHOStock ROM 2.2, Ktoonz latest TW kernel with KTweaks with the recommended settings, turbo ZRAM, Greenify and Battery Guru to maximize my system. At this current moment, I have 865 MB/1.78 GB RAM.
All of these items are easily found in google or on the first page of the General section, The QA Section, The Games and APP Section, the Original Development section, or the Development section Of this exact forum. Why should I post something for you that is right under your nose? For what you are looking for, Google is not a good source. You will not find one single thing that will help you. You need multiple items and lots of time to fine tune your system. Google is only good for finding one or 2 things unless you know how to use key words.
As a Recognized Contributor, I have been excessively helpful to thousands of people on XDA. I would not have the title if it were untrue. I do however find your original attitude towards jd1639 to be a bit uncalled for. All the answers were on par because your question was not very clear to begin with.
Lets put it this way. You need a complete overhaul to get even close to the amount of memory you seek. It is impossible to have that much free RAM on a TW based ROM. It would be a close call on any non TW based ROM, and I doubt you would even get there.
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you have contradicted yourself several times in your reply, friend. From the answers being on the first page to google not being a good source. From claiming to have knowledge of threads pertaining to my question, to the answers arent available at all. Well which is it? I have no problem overhauling my system, im asking how to do that. I have run TW roms that were capable of this even on my s3 sl clearly it is possible. Perhaps I will PM a few devs, but there is no reason I shouldnt be able to post in the q & a section with a q that has clearly never been answered, and expect more responses than the ideologies of unused RAM vs wasted RAM.
so thanks for your contribution
You miss understand my answers. I'm done here. If you are unwilling to take my obvious attempt to give you a little edge in the right direction, I am unwilling to further discuss this.
Actually... One last thing. If you are on MF3,you are screwed and can't do anything to get even close to what you want. You will be stuck on stock. I suggest not trying to tweak anything because if you mess up, you can't fix it.
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You miss understand my answers. I'm done here. If you are unwilling to take my obvious attempt to give you a little edge in the right direction, I am unwilling to further discuss this.
Actually... One last thing. If you are on MF3,you are screwed and can't do anything to get even close to what you want. You will be stuck on stock. I suggest not trying to tweak anything because if you mess up, you can't fix it.
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Well apparently bricked mf3 phones can now be fixed at best buy with a Samsung service center...they have the ability to reflash mf3
And to the OP, I don't really know how to help you get more ram other than debloating the phone and stopping all the special s functions. However like everyone else has said there is no reason for more free ram. Any speed up you notice by free ram is a placebo. In the days of GB free ram did mean better performance but not anymore. You say you notice less lag on custom ROMs and you assume its related to the more ram being available, however its most likely due to tweaks the dev has applied to their ROM, whether its CPU oc, animation tweaks or whatever.
Here is what I suggest, which ever ROM you're referring to that had great performance. Contact that dev and ask what tweaks he had applied, than re-apply those tweaks to your device.
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I have gotten mine rooted recently.installed titanium and uninstalled or frozed useless apps.like service provider apps and Samsung extras like gestures and stuff. I can get 1gb free ram..I don't know if its worth it but I use advanced task killer to free up mem.or go to deleoper settings and limit the number of running apps
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Is there anyway to get an android version higher than gingerbread on my droid x? I dont need it to be jelly bean necessarily but i would like to be able to get a higher version if possible
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Is there anyway to get an android version higher than gingerbread on my droid x? I dont need it to be jelly bean necessarily but i would like to be able to get a higher version if possible
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There's a ICS based rom over on RootzWiki thats pretty nice and stable -- except for the camcorder. I can't post the link, but it is the top post in the droid x forum over there
I'm running it now and like it a lot
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/40011-LiquidICS-v1.62-[unofficial-port]---06/19/13
LiquidICS v1.62 [unofficial port] - 06/19/13
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I like the gummy from for the Droidx
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If you need help getting gummy on your dx pm me
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Has anyone actually tried to port CM10, 10.1, or 10.2 to this device?
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yes, doesn't boot
some threads on rootzwiki
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yes, doesn't boot
some threads on rootzwiki
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oh ok. i must've missed that.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/29434-jelly-bean/page-8#entry819322
new version of the liquid ICS rom
There's a new version of the liquid rom over on Rootz wiki. It has a camcorder fix and some other updates. running well for me.
Still not allowed to post the link, but the previous post has it
Ok, this is aimed at anyone. KitKat source code has been released. I've got an Atrix 4G and the Droid X. Word over on A4G from an article online says that this will help with updates, low mem devices and stuff of that nature. Will the release of KK source code help with advancing DX development? I'll post what I read over here in a sec.
Edit. Post from A4G
Many people are excited about the upcoming Android Kit Kat update, but according to a recent leak, this new version may actually be a major step forward both in terms of usability and capabilities for Google’s OS.
Amir Efrati, who has broken Google and Android news before, has apparently taken a look at some official inside documents concerning Android 4.4 KitKat. According to him this might be a radical update to Google’s platform not just an iterative one.
Among the many new features and improvements that it’s supposed to bring, KitKat will supposedly finally deal with the fragmentation issue that has plagued the Android ecosystem ever since the OS first launched. This will come both in terms of support for the update and in integrated solutions that unify separate approaches from different OEMs. For example instead of Samsung, HTC, Moto and Sony each offering their own way to interact with an IR blaster, KitKat now brings an integrated solution that works on all handsets.
According to Efrati, KitKat has also been engineered to work on older and lower-end devices in a bid to bring them up to speed with newer and more powerful handsets. Memory management has also been improved, now allowing much more fluidity and responsiveness even in devices with only 512 MB RAM.
Speaking of those, KitKat also seems to be focused around new lower-end devices with many improvements designed to make Google and its OEMs more competitive in this field. After all, while the high-end markets seem saturated, developing markets are a huge and valuable battlefield for OEMs looking to sell more devices.
Other improvements are focused around Bluetooth and the addition of new sensors: geomagnetic rotation vector, step detection and step counters. These are definitely geared towards wearables, whether they’re Google Glass or upcoming smartwatches from OEMs or even completely new products that haven’t been announced yet. Whatever the case, Android is definitely gearing towards a wearable computing future.
Finally developers will supposedly be able to create applications that use “full-screen mode” which completely hides the navigation bar and lets the app shine from edge to edge. And alongside all these changes there may be some significant battery gains thanks to improvements in the KitKat update which should make many users quite happy.
Hopefully we won’t have to wait too long until Google decides to unveil KitKat to the world, and here’s hoping this info is accurate and the update does end up being a major one.
Source: JessicaLessin.com via: Engadget | Image via Google
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There's a new version of the liquid rom over on Rootz wiki. It has a camcorder fix and some other updates. running well for me.
Still not allowed to post the link, but the previous post has it
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Would love to see some KitKat goodness on the old DX
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Should I factory reset my DX if I'm upgrading from gingerbread to ics? Or what should i do?
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root
Install a Bootstrap
Make a Nandroid Backup
Install a rom in ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM)
see [HOW TO] Install/Use Droid 2/X/3 Bootstrap
I love liquid ics, but there's just one problem, the notifications bar. When I first installed it, it was fine. But when I started messing around with some of the settings, it's became so that it's just black, I'll add pictures, but can anyone tell me what settings to get back the icons in the notifications bar. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Falfner said:
I love liquid ics, but there's just one problem, the notifications bar. When I first installed it, it was fine. But when I started messing around with some of the settings, it's became so that it's just black, I'll add pictures, but can anyone tell me what settings to get back the icons in the notifications bar. Any help would be much appreciated.
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I've run into that as well. I had to clear data to get it back. You might try clearing SystemUI data first and then rebooting. Just know that all your system settings will be wiped.
Notifications turning invisible happened to me as well in LiquidICS 2.0. It can be fixed as follows:
Go to Settings+Interface+Status bar+General. Scroll to Notification Color at the bottom. Change the color to something close to white. Your notifications should come back.
I haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. Looks like this is the source for the Droid Ultra/Maxx line.
Hopefully using this and the AOSP 4.3, we can get a 4.3 ROM brewed.
Announcing the release of open source for the Ultra family of products
And if you want the source for the Moto X it's there as well:
Announcing the release of Open Source Software for Moto X
Sorry for the noob questions but how does this effect the bootloader? Will it completely unlock the device for recovery/kernels/ROMs? TIA.
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Sorry for the noob questions but how does this effect the bootloader? Will it completely unlock the device for recovery/kernels/ROMs? TIA.
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This won't effect the bootloader but could be used for kernels and ROMs on the developer editions where the bootloader is unlocked.
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This won't effect the bootloader but could be used for kernels and ROMs on the developer editions where the bootloader is unlocked.
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Does that mean there's no hope still for locked devices? I got my Maxx and am now questioning if I should return it for a device that can be unlocked. I really love everything else about this phone though.
From what I have read around the forums, if you are looking for unlocked then this phone line isn't the way to go.
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Yep, the developer edition will probably be less headache for you in the long run.
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I don't really have 650$ lying around though :/
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I haven't seen this posted anywhere else yet. Looks like this is the source for the Droid Ultra/Maxx line.
Hopefully using this and the AOSP 4.3, we can get a 4.3 ROM brewed.
Announcing the release of open source for the Ultra family of products
And if you want the source for the Moto X it's there as well:
Announcing the release of Open Source Software for Moto X
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thank you for the links.
thread moved to general section
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thank you for the links.
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is this phone is locked to verizon only? how about the gsm? it's locked too?
The phone can be used globaly. That includes GSM networks.
Out of curiosity, is there any development going on with the Droid Maxx developer edition right now? I realize that some of the Moto X stuff works OK, but until someone figures out how to get the capacitive buttons working we're not going to see any ROMs. I'm willing to shell out the extra money for the Maxx Developer Edition if it meant I wouldn't be forced to wait for Verizon to approve firmware updates, but right now it's not looking promising that anyone is going to bother with Droid Maxx DE ROMs. Unless, of course, someone figures out how to unlock the bootloader on the non-developer version.
I haven't seen any activity in the known channels but then again it may be too early to expect anything.
On another note, it would be nice if you could port the Google Edition ROM over to the non Google Edition phones, without having to unlock the bootloader, maybe?
Yeah, I'm surprised at the complete lack of development on this phone. I realize that developer edition devices won't have communities nearly as large as other devices, but I expected at least SOME basic AOSP ROM's.
Wouldnt this being a offical source thats made for our phones atleast allow us to put 4.3 into our phones? Id guess it runs the stock kernel which is signed.
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Yeah, I'm surprised at the complete lack of development on this phone. I realize that developer edition devices won't have communities nearly as large as other devices, but I expected at least SOME basic AOSP ROM's.
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Yeah, I particularly expected some basic ROMs too, since the Maxx will essentially run Moto X ROMs (apparently someone just needs to figure out how to get those ROMs to use the Maxx's capacative buttons). But, there's not a ton going on with the Moto X, either. I'm guessing that's mostly because the Moto X is already mostly a stock ROM. You could build your own AOSP ROM, I suppose, but then you'd lose some of the major features of the Moto X and Droid lines. They're working on CM 10.2, though.
I'd be happy with an AOSP ROM with touchless controls and active notifications
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I have to say since SS came out and we have exposed as well as modules like gravity box etc I don't see a huge need for ROMs. This phones is almost stock android as it is. I would be happy with a deodexed system so it would be easy to install inverted apps and such. I think that is all this phone needs. Other than a ROM that looks or acts completely different from stock what would be the benefit. Without an unlocked boot loader I have always noticed kexec Roms to run glitchy. I don't want a glichy phone when I can do what most Roms do using exposed etc. I think the time would be better spent on creating themes that could be flashed to the stock system. This is just my opinion based on using the maxx for the last 2months.
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I have to say since SS came out and we have exposed as well as modules like gravity box etc I don't see a huge need for ROMs. This phones is almost stock android as it is. I would be happy with a deodexed system so it would be easy to install inverted apps and such. I think that is all this phone needs. Other than a ROM that looks or acts completely different from stock what would be the benefit. Without an unlocked boot loader I have always noticed kexec Roms to run glitchy. I don't want a glichy phone when I can do what most Roms do using exposed etc. I think the time would be better spent on creating themes that could be flashed to the stock system. This is just my opinion based on using the maxx for the last 2months.
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I agree..seems as thow, if I had this stock ROM with a gray gapps to match system colors, maybe even a transparent status bar option, I'd be tickled..I do like some of the Apps. that come with this ROM, games I'm not into, and the "Amazon" stuff, nor the NFL, Ingress I would delete, BUT..The Droid Zap, Touch less Controls, NFC and others I'd like to keep..I do enjoy this device and for the most part, like the stock ROM..
Oh..and be able to turn GPS Off and On without having to give permission ever time ( check or uncheck the box)..
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I'm perfectly happy with stock MotoX/Droid ROMs too, particularly since they are so close to stock Android. But, I don't want to have to wait for Verizon to approve firmware updates. I got a Galaxy Nexus hoping to avoid some of the headaches associated with flashing ROMs, That didn't exactly turn out as expected (though probably how I should have expected it).
If I was to start developing a custom ROM based on the latest ICS update for the Verizon model of this tab.... would there be any interest ?
I ask because last time I took the time to do one for the Verizon SGT (the original 7 incher) there wasn't that many interested "customers"
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If I was to start developing a custom ROM based on the latest ICS update for the Verizon model of this tab.... would there be any interest ?
I ask because last time I took the time to do one for the Verizon SGT (the original 7 incher) there wasn't that many interested "customers"
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I would be interested.
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If I was to start developing a custom ROM based on the latest ICS update for the Verizon model of this tab.... would there be any interest ?
I ask because last time I took the time to do one for the Verizon SGT (the original 7 incher) there wasn't that many interested "customers"
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Even if there isn't many "customers", there's always the personal challenge, satisfaction and self education Good luck
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Even if there isn't many "customers", there's always the personal challenge, satisfaction and self education Good luck
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True.. I'm past all that at this level and it would just be the time invested. Sounds like it's not worth it. Heh
If you did an ICS rom and left the samsung video player in it and added ntfssd (from google play) or compiled your own kernel that would use exfat or ntfs (TWRP supports exfat) for large file support I would test it.
Keep in mind ICS has been done, but If you could figure out how to port kitkat to the device that would be awesome. Kitkat is supposed to have great memory management. The galaxy 7.7 only has 1GB of system memory HC ran fast on it but ICS is a bit of a dog even with bloat removed and tweaks applied. The port of PAC rom to the i815 gave me issues due to incorrectly signed files in the rom.
I haven't checked the general section on this forum for a long time but yea I still use my i815 quite often and the lack of stock development has been extremely disappointing. But there is a lot of driver work afaik particularly with the IR and LTE. I don't have a data plan on my i815 anymore but from time to time I may throw my phone SIM in there. Biggest thing for me over the other ROMs is having the function of the full hardware. I personally dislike touchwiz thoroughly with the exception of multiwindow features
So yea
I would definitely be interested there are likely a few others who would be interested but don't frequent this section. The i815 info thread I think still have a decent number of subscribers.
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True.. I'm past all that at this level and it would just be the time invested. Sounds like it's not worth it. Heh
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Any further thought on this?
Currently I use in my car as a glorified GPS I might do a rom for it in the future
The X doesn't get nearly the love it deserves. It's still a perfectly good device with plenty of untapped potential.
So... what lead you to do that comment?
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So... what lead you to do that comment?
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Just a thought. No need to be snarky.
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Just a thought. No need to be snarky.
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Hey, I'm chilled out, I thought you had a problem with a Moto X, such as a brick or something what you expected but it did not happen D:
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Hey, I'm chilled out, I thought you had a problem with a Moto X, such as a brick or something what you expected but it did not happen D:
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Just doesnt get as many people dev'ing for it as other flagships this year. yea its a little old now but still lol
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Just doesnt get as many people dev'ing for it as other flagships this year. yea its a little old now but still lol
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Cause there is no need to. If you switch away from stock, you lose everything, that is special about this phone. I am in love with active display.
Not sure why people crave for every next phone with EVEN MORE cpupower. Dualcore can do everything just fine and who cares if apps load 0,02sec faster o_0
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The X doesn't get nearly the love it deserves. It's still a perfectly good device with plenty of untapped potential.
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this topic has been posted several times over, with the same results. people, in general, love the phone how it is. the only benefits you will receive are through xposed. ROMs are basically non-existent (compared to some devices) although there is a kernel being developed.
my opinion: root/unlock, xpose/hack, done. the phone doesn't need any "help".
The OP is very correct. The Moto X did not receive nearly as much love as most other flagship phones. Now here is where the hate mail and complaining begins. Everyone says you don't need roms it breaks active display. WRONG run Eclipse or any other stock based rom it works fine. It is only broken on Aosp roms and they have their own active display so do some homework. And everyone feels like Xposed and gravity box is the best thing in the world. It hack and slashes your framework. I would prefer to have a dev hard code in the mods so it is much cleaner. But hey I am no dev so everyone will ignore this and continue saying the X does not need anything but stock and xposed and gravity. I am glad some are happy with that.
I'm with Travis. Stock (blur?) Based Roms are better than stock. I'm no fan of xposed either. Adding another framework to Android seems so... TouchPissy (twframework-res.apk anyone?).
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The OP is very correct. The Moto X did not receive nearly as much love as most other flagship phones. Now here is where the hate mail and complaining begins. Everyone says you don't need roms it breaks active display. WRONG run Eclipse or any other stock based rom it works fine. It is only broken on Aosp roms and they have their own active display so do some homework. And everyone feels like Xposed and gravity box is the best thing in the world. It hack and slashes your framework. I would prefer to have a dev hard code in the mods so it is much cleaner. But hey I am no dev so everyone will ignore this and continue saying the X does not need anything but stock and xposed and gravity. I am glad some are happy with that.
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Sure they have an app that works like active display but doesn't use the lowpower-chip that the stock app is using. So your juice will go out the window using it cause for it to work like active display, it has to monitor the sensors, preventing deep sleep.
What's the point in developing, if you can't use AOSP? I know there are stock-based roms, but I wouldn't call that developement. That are merely stripped stockroms with added apps and some tweaks. I like a good AOSP-rom as much as the next guy though. It's a pain to make it work like Slim does and I'd rather just install Slimkat but as I said, I'd hate to lose active display.
Hasuris said:
Sure they have an app that works like active display but doesn't use the lowpower-chip that the stock app is using. So your juice will go out the window using it cause for it to work like active display, it has to monitor the sensors, preventing deep sleep.
What's the point in developing, if you can't use AOSP? I know there are stock-based roms, but I wouldn't call that developement. That are merely stripped stockroms with added apps and some tweaks. I like a good AOSP-rom as much as the next guy though. It's a pain to make it work like Slim does and I'd rather just install Slimkat but as I said, I'd hate to lose active display.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. I recommend looking into Eclipse. Highly modified stock based with his own coding for many features. Active display is not lost. And for the record I don't run aosp on this device but love aosp on other devices. But saying a stock based ROM is not developing then you are way out of line!
Do yourself a favor just run stock with xposed lol
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You have no idea what you are talking about. I recommend looking into Eclipse. Highly modified stock based with his own coding for many features. Active display is not lost. And for the record I don't run aosp on this device but love aosp on other devices. But saying a stock based ROM is not developing then you are way out of line!
Do yourself a favor just run stock with xposed lol
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I am no developer too and what I said came from my impression of some glances through the threads. But like I said, I am not able to judge and appologize if I oversteped. Didn't mean to offend.
Maybe many people are held back because of the risks involved in flashing with the Moto X. I own a Nexus 7 and a Defy and never was it such a hassle. Like you can't downgrade or you'll brick your phone and stuff. I guess devs only develop either for the phones they own or phones, that have a high demand for customroms. Neither of which are true with the Moto X I think.
Well developing "stock-based" roms IS indeed development, but it is probably not "original development" based on the XDA documentation. Developing an AOSP-based rom (as the original maintainer and not a derivative of his/her work) would be considered "original development".
The statement that the AOSP-compatible variant of Active Display does not use the "low voltage core" and hence results in higher battery usage than stock active display is correct.
Regardless, all DEVs, whether contributing "development" or "original development" deserve our respect and gratitude. Without them, XDA could not exist.
If anyone wants to read the official clarification between development and original development, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/original-development-t2456997
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Well developing "stock-based" roms IS indeed development, but it is probably not "original development" based on the XDA documentation. Developing an AOSP-based rom (as the original maintainer and not a derivative of his/her work) would be considered "original development".
The statement that the AOSP-compatible variant of Active Display does not use the "low voltage core" and hence results in higher battery usage than stock active display is correct.
Regardless, all DEVs, whether contributing "development" or "original development" deserve our respect and gratitude. Without them, XDA could not exist.
If anyone wants to read the official clarification between development and original development, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/original-development-t2456997
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This is correct. But it is also correct that the X didn't get much love from the developer community. That's probably because it is so stock-based. There was very little, at the time of it's release, that people would have wanted other than the stock features.
I had a Samsung Epic 4g before this phone, and it had development even 2 years after it's release. I was running the latest Cyanogenmod 11 on the device even though it was so out of date.
The Moto X is a great phone and yes, it deserves more love, but it's hard to get that when the device is so 'stock' that only a minority of people actually want other options like Xposed, Custom ROMs, etc.
Any Samsung device on the other hand, plenty of people don't like TouchWiz so the developers get right on getting to back to stock android.
Who cares about ROM's or rooting when the phone allows you to do everything you need.
I really don't feel the urge to root mine at all. It does everything I need it to.
I really love the battery life and cool features like Active Display. I always use Touchless Control when I'm in the shower to do stuff lol, also when I'm driving.
Wutang200 said:
Who cares about ROM's or rooting when the phone allows you to do everything you need.
I really don't feel the urge to root mine at all. It does everything I need it to.
I really love the battery life and cool features like Active Display. I always use Touchless Control when I'm in the shower to do stuff lol, also when I'm driving.
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I am glad you are so happy with your phone. Just because you don't have any needs for anything other than stock does not mean others feel the same way.
Like what??
I seriously can't even think of what else I'd want in a smart phone.
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Like what??
I seriously can't even think of what else I'd want in a smart phone.
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If you have no idea why you would need root or have a custom rom then you should just stay stock. Everyone uses their phones different. The reasons why I bought a dev edition is too long to list. The moto X is a good device stock. But that does not mean that it can not be improved.
Wutang200 said:
Like what??
I seriously can't even think of what else I'd want in a smart phone.
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The reason most people on this site buy android over apple.
The sheer fact that they can put their own spice on the device and truly make it an experience they love.
Just simple economics, that's why android has such a greater global marketshare of smartphones.
Because the user experience is just hands down better and less locked down, like apple.
And the more you can do with an open source architecture, the "better"
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UbuntuBrandon said:
The X doesn't get nearly the love it deserves. It's still a perfectly good device with plenty of untapped potential.
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Hello,
Indeed, the comment you have posted is right. If you compare Moto X with the other brand like Samsung and Sony then the features and quality in every brand we can see somewhere quite similar. And Moto X has its own name and originality to be in market.