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Galaxy Tab official reveal at IFA Berlin

In case no one had seen this yet:
http://gizmodo.com/5627498/samsungs-galaxy-tab-takes-on-the-ipad-just-like-android-does-the-iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
Includes hands on video in the Engadget link. Gotta say, very impressed. Only let down might be that they didn't manage a SAMOLED screen, but the one they chose looks good so far.
Also, conflicting reports on the CPU. Gizmodo and that press sheet say A8, Engadget says A9. My money is on the same Hummingbird that's in the Galaxy S though.
The Samsung GALAXY Tab (GT-P1000) Product Specifications
Network
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G (HSUPA 5.76Mbps, HSDPA 7.2Mbps) : 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
OS
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Display
7.0 inch TFT-LCD, WSVGA (1024 x 600)
Processor
Cortex A8 1.0GHz Application Processor with PowerVR SGX540
Camera
3 MP Camera with Auto-Focus and LED Flash
1.3MP front camera for Video Telephony
Value-added
Features
Android Market™ and Samsung Apps for more applications and contents
Readers Hub, Media Hub* , Music Hub*, Social Hub
*Availability will be decided by market preference.
Adobe Flash 10.1 player support
Full HD video playback, Thinkfree Office, Swype, Hybrid Widget
Connectivity
30 pin connector
WiFi 802.11n / Bluetooth® 3.0
Sensor
Gyroscope sensor, Geo-magnetic sensor, Accelerometer, Light sensor
Memory
16G / 32G internal memory with up to 32G external memory slot
RAM: 512 MB
Size
190.09 x 120.45 x 11.98mm, 380g
Battery
4,000mAh (7 hour movie play)
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I just want to know the price.

If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!

rmanaudio said:
If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!
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how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...

matty___ said:
how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...
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If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.

yea $399 seems like a fair price..

Apparently a finnish press release (by email) set the price to 949€ (~$1200)... Which is somewhat higher than the "fair" price you wish for... I doubt they will sell very many if that's accurate. And it pisses me off that they didn't toss in a 1280x720 screen... I don't care if Android doesn't support the resolution.. It's not like it's impossible to make it support it, it's OPEN SOURCE.

rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100

matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.

I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.

MORE IMPORTANT:
- This equipment is very similar to our SGS and will be updated to Gingerbread (Android 3.0)
- Someone from Samsung mentioned they're working already in Honeycomb (Android 3.X)!
Long life to SGS is garanteed!
BTW: Did someone find any benchmark figures from the SGT?

Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
Samsung Galaxy S Series
----Galaxy S General & News
----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk
----Galaxy S Android Development
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
-----------------Galaxy S [model ID pending] Tab [T]
----Galaxy S Accessories
-----------------Galaxy S International [I9][I9B][I9M][I9C][K]
-----------------Galaxy S USA models [F][C][V]
-----------------Galaxy S Epic 4G [E]
----Galaxy S Applications & Themes
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i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already

matty___ said:
Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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Samsung Tablets: Gingerbread, Honeycomb, a 'full portfolio' in 2011:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-tablets-gingerbread-honeycomb-full-portfolio-2011

rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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No, iPad is $640 range sans for the 3G, (there are some reports there will be a wifi-only but I happen to believe the reports that all will have a cell radio, even if coming disabled by default unless sold by a carrier...end part my speculation):
a camera, let alone two
dual band wireless N
expandable storage
pixel density (sacrficing screen size, but increasing holdability and portability)
flash support
...no point in going on, they are going all out, Apple held something back
form factors & OS to be argued, but I think Apple-Central (Engadget) themselves said they like this one for it's one-handed possibilities, better for e-reading due to the pixel density, weight and form factor
I can tell you that it's main competitor in Korea is coming in at less than $300 US without a contract and free on contract (less than $30/month wi-bro contract). This is definitely a better device, but if we can see other non-Apple's doing cheap then we can see this having great options as well.
I definitely expect this in the 400-500 range, $500 is a bit of a shame for people that will go without a data plan, but it is what it is and adds future flexibility.
matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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They won't price these based on exchance rates, that's not how the market works, they price these to what the customers can bear. For example, in England the iPad starts at 429 pounds, in Germany and France the iPad starts at 500 Euro, in the U.S. it starts at $500 USD. Expect Samsung to price according to market as well, and for this to be 400+ Euro.
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Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.
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The iPhone costs more than the base iPad, you are looking at subsidized pricing versus non-subsidized pricing...there's a difference. Again, comparing this to an iPad isn't correct on many levels. First, some people have never been interested in the iPad even if they are mildly or majorly tickled by the idea of having a tablet device. Next, for those who want the GSM version, $400 would be more than $200 cheaper than the iPad, the iPad would be priced more than 50% higher than this! They don't need to undercut them that much, look above and feel free to comment back.
As far as "teethering" goes I swear I've read teethering like 3 times in 2 weeks, is this a new internet meme (anyone can answer and sorry for being slightly off-topic, I'm not the grammar police, just trying to be educated on what's hip )
AllGamer said:
not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already
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I think many, many of us knew. At least those that read the webblogs, this thing has more leaks than the Bush Administration (eh, probably could've done better, but hey).

INeedYourHelp said:
I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.
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Ooo, now I get to ask my question. I love the Galaxy S, but how many people with a Galaxy S are in the market for this device? I'm really curious, I'd be more tempted by their other offerings in 2011 which will be more feature packed and give me more screen real estate (read, less redundant). I do think the device is sexy, but right now I don't see myself buying one, but am open-minded and want to hear opinions on both sides.

i'll be a nice companion for our phone, to replace a laptop

Cool maybe for the galaxy as well then
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The screen is based on TFT, instead of AMOLED, which Samsung uses on some of its smartphones. The concession was made to lower the cost of the product and improve battery life, which should last up to eight hours, according to Samsung.
On the front is a 1.3-megapixel camera for video calls or conferencing, and on the back a 3-megapixel camera with a LED lamp. The Tab weighs 380 grams, and measures 19 centimeters by 12 cm by 1.2 cm.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9183318/Update_Samsung_launches_Galaxy_Tab?taxonomyId=15
with that screen and camera short coming, i think i'll stick with the Phone version better

If it had Super AMOLED display + 1GB RAM and got 2G+3G removed, I'd be very interested.
However, I think tablets should get cheaper. I mean... netbooks are getting cheaper day by day and you can buy a decent one with $250-300. I know that tablets are more portable and time-efficient since they don't need booting, but the pricing isn't attractive at all.

Anandtech mini-review/analysis for the new nexus 7 is up

http://anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review
Looks like the processor isn't actually the same as the Nexus 4 and shares a lot in common with the Snapdragon 600. Glad to see the display improvements as well.
Some highlights:
Display:
It turns out that the new Nexus 7 is actually very close to sRGB this time around, with overall gamut being just a bit bigger than the sRGB color space. In the GMB Delta-E and saturations Delta-E measures, arguably the two most relevant for color accuracy, the new Nexus 7 is second only to the iPad 4, and better than the iPad Mini in color accuracy, a significant step forwards from its predecessor.
The new Nexus 7 also goes very bright, up to 583 nits, with excellent contrast of 1273. This is again not achieved using any dynamic contrast cheating since those functions are thoughtfully disabled.
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Processor:
the new Nexus 7 switches to Qualcomm’s APQ8064–1AA, a version with 4 Krait 300 CPU cores (yes, Krait 300, not 200) running at up to 1.5 GHz and Adreno 320 graphics. Rather than use a PoP and LPDDR2, this specific APQ8064 variant goes to PCDDR3L–1600 MHz instead, including 4, 4Gb discrete 1.35V SK-hynix DRAM devices off to the side (more on the opposite side of the PCB) adding up to 2 GB of RAM. Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 Pro and Snapdragon 600 branding gets confused here, although Qualcomm is calling the APQ8064 inside the Nexus 7 (2013) S4 Pro, it's more like an underclocked or lower binned Snapdragon 600.
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He is still working on battery tests, so those will either show up here or in a full review to come later.

Not usually one to buy a gadget sight unseen but after reading this review I'm really glad I ordered one.

mi7chy said:
Not usually one to buy a gadget sight unseen but after reading this review I'm really glad I ordered one.
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Keep the feeling alive until the inevitable defect in all these first run units appears :good:

the S4 pro in the 2013 model is essentially an underclocked snapdragon 600! thanks to those krait 300 cores!!! thats a win!

Wow! Just read the entire article. New nexus7 is a beast. An all around great device.
What really caught my attention was some new thing with storage I/O called ftrim or something. This prevents the sluggishness and slowing down of device after its loaded with apps and stuff. So this nexus doesn't suffer the bottleneck like previous generation. Even better is that this is a software feature included in android 4.3. So even the older generation nexus7 "should" be fixed once updated to Android 4.3. This should breathe new life into the older models. Can't wait to flash 4.3 on mines and see how she runs.
The display, according to Anandtech, is nothing short of amazing. Even beating the ipad4 display in alot of areas. So a huge improvement from previous model.
What I really like is that there's actually Krait 300 cores. Although they calling it S4 Pro, its really an underclocked/low bin Snapdragon 600. Once this device is rooted and overclocked, expect to see its performance increase dramatically. As powerful as it is, could even be underclocked to achieve stellar battery life and still perform.great.
Thanks to OP for the link. I think this Anandtech mini review has put me over the edge on buying one. I especially want one now. Ill just flash 4.3 on older model.and give it to my father since he doesn't have a tablet and I know he'd enjoy it.

"Sorry, you are limited to 8 thanks per day"
Awwww...
Anyhow, that's great news! OTG was also confirmed working. This thing keeps getting better!!

... and now the lack of European availability hurts even more! Superb little device, dear Lord!

BoneXDA said:
... and now the lack of European availability hurts even more! Superb little device, dear Lord!
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I bought one with Amazon and comgateway to Australia. You could try the same if you're really eager. Mine should arrive in 5-7days. Fingers crossed.

Nbsss said:
I bought one with Amazon and comgateway to Australia. You could try the same if you're really eager. Mine should arrive in 5-7days. Fingers crossed.
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Is comgateway reliable?
I heard mixed reviews on it
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ganeshp said:
Is comgateway reliable?
I heard mixed reviews on it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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I'll find out in a few days, first time using it

ganeshp said:
Is comgateway reliable?
I heard mixed reviews on it
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Mine arrived at my comgateway address today, I gave them the OK to ship on the website just now.
Should arrive on 7th Aug they said.
The website is pretty easy to use, and you get 10% off on your 1st purchase and free upgrade to express.
Total cost of shipping includes the price they quote, 9% fuel surchage, and 0.65% fuel surchage.
Nexus 7 weighs under 700g, so they charge you for only one kg.
So $28 USD (price of 1kg) + $2.24 USD (fuel surcharge) + $1.48 USD (insurance) = $28.92 USD after 10% off
$28.92 x 1.09 (Australian conversion rate) x 1.03 (international transaction fee) = $32.41 AUD (TOTAL price for shipping)
That makes the total i've spent for the 16gb nexus = $288.07 AUD or $257.92 USD
So far it's looking pretty good, i'll update you when i get my package

ganeshp said:
Is comgateway reliable?
I heard mixed reviews on it
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Used it a few times, they ship using DHL, so I get my stuff pretty quickly.
No complains so far.
Beamed from my Grouper

Nbsss said:
Mine arrived at my comgateway address today, I gave them the OK to ship on the website just now.
Should arrive on 7th Aug they said.
The website is pretty easy to use, and you get 10% off on your 1st purchase and free upgrade to express.
Total cost of shipping includes the price they quote, 9% fuel surchage, and 0.65% fuel surchage.
Nexus 7 weighs under 700g, so they charge you for only one kg.
So $28 USD (price of 1kg) + $2.24 USD (fuel surcharge) + $1.48 USD (insurance) = $28.92 USD after 10% off
$28.92 x 1.09 (Australian conversion rate) x 1.03 (international transaction fee) = $32.41 AUD (TOTAL price for shipping)
That makes the total i've spent for the 16gb nexus = $288.07 AUD or $257.92 USD
So far it's looking pretty good, i'll update you when i get my package
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It's already arrived in Sydney! That's faster than i expected...From Amazon to Oregon to Australia in 5 days (Mon->Fri)....not bad!

Nbsss said:
It's already arrived in Sydney! That's faster than i expected...From Amazon to Oregon to Australia in 5 days (Mon->Fri)....not bad!
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Now in Melbourne - never knew DHL works on weekends...

Price Premium of 32GB Model, comparison against competition, $ and £ prices

I have been waiting for the nexus 9 for over a year and was very happy with the outcome my issue is that the price premium for the 32GB model is too much. I have attached a comparison of the nexus's, ipads and tab s's.
I originally completed the comparision to see how the conversion between $ and £ was working out, which apparently is about $1.25 per £. This is in line with the competition, and makes sense bearing in mind the UKs higher VAT. I have to note that the conversion for the 32gb model was not as good ($1.20), so I compared the storage premium.
The new IPads jump from 16gb to 64gb for the same price that the nexus 9 jumps from 16gb to 32gb. This means that the cost of each extra GB for the nexus 9 is $5/£5 , whereas the ipads are $2.10/£1.67, which is less than half the price.
I am really annoyed at google for doing this, no way is 16GB of extra storage worth £80, but as the tablet has no expandable storage, I will have to pay the extra. If for £80 the storage jumped to 64GB like the IPads I would be a lot happier.
What do you guys think of the price difference of the models? Do you think there is any chance of google dropping the 32GB models price to make it more in line with Apple (I didn't think I would ever say that apple gives better value than google but that is the case).

I really think Google gone mad on pricing the Nexus line up this year. Most of the people bought Nexus Devices just b'coz of the competitive pricing.

Firesail said:
I really think Google gone mad on pricing the Nexus line up this year. Most of the people bought Nexus Devices just b'coz of the competitive pricing.
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good pricing, and because of the price, last years chips. to my understanding, the new devices use the new chips and if we don't get the annoying screen issues plaguing the N7.2 , will be worth it. I've already told them to take my money, even though I have very little of it, and swore I would not get one so soon due to the issue I have with my N7.2
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fallen2004 said:
I have been waiting for the nexus 9 for over a year and was very happy with the outcome my issue is that the price premium for the 32GB model is too much. I have attached a comparison of the nexus's, ipads and tab s's.
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a comparison of just ram specs alone is not enough. its like comparing cars just based on their trunk space alone . toss in chip (engine) and battery (gas tank) and a few other specs to make the comparison more realistic.
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Migamix said:
a comparison of just ram specs alone is not enough. its like comparing cars just based on their trunk space alone . toss in chip (engine) and battery (gas tank) and a few other specs to make the comparison more realistic.
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I know that the tablets all have different features. This was not meant to be a comparision of which tablet is the best value, I was just demonstrating how google has completely overpriced the 32GB model compared to the competition of which the IPad is the major one. The main point was the nexus 9 is the same price as the IPad mini 3 in the UK for the 16GB models but you can get the 64GB IPad mini 3 for the same price of the 32GB nexus 9.
So google should either bump the storage of the 32GB nexus 9 up to 64GB with no price increase or should knock £30-40 off the price to be more inline with its competitors. I have noticed that the price premium for the extra storage is not as much in the USA where the nexus 9 32GB is $20 cheaper than the IPad mini 3 64GB. I do not understand how there is $20 difference in the USA and no price difference in the UK.

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Nexus 9
16GB - $399
32Gb - $479
New Fire HDX 8.9 Without Special Offers (With Special Offers)
16GB - $394 ($379)
32GB - $444 ($429)
64GB - $494 ($479)
IPad Air
16GB - $399
32GB - $449
IPad Air 2
16GB - $499
64GB - $599
Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (8.4)
16GB - $499 ($399)
32GB - $549 (N/A)
The Nexus 9, specifications wise is meant to compete with the iPad Air 2. For an extra $80, you got to 32 GB from 16 GB while on the iPad Air 2, you go to 64GB from 16GB, but the base price starts at $100 more. The selling point over the Fire HDX, is accessibility and freedom.

I didn't think of looking at amazon.
So apple, samsung and amazon all charge $50 for a storage increase from 16GB to 32GB, whereas google is charging $80.
I am very disappointed in google for this, why did they not do the same as everyone else and charge $50 for the storage increase, which would have made the 32GB nexus 9 $449.

Canadian Release November 21 2014

Fyi it will be available November 21, apparently a Sony store exclusive, at least in terms of brick and mortar stores. I hope Amazon or ncix etc get it too.
It's only available in white with 32gb for $529.99. Saw their system with info today.
SPECIALBM10200 gets you $10 off if ordered online. Expect better codes black Friday!

Yeah mobilesyrup mentioned it last week. I am happy its not 549, or 559 like some people though. Cheaper than what expansy is currently selling it for. Is it actually the 32gb model and not 16? currently their z2 is 529 for 16gb. If its actually 32 for that price then i will probably get it over the new nexus and the samsung tab s, as that will be a pretty good price, even if it only comes in white (I want the black >.<)

PUFNSTUF said:
Yeah mobilesyrup mentioned it last week. I am happy its not 549, or 559 like some people though. Cheaper than what expansy is currently selling it for. Is it actually the 32gb model and not 16? currently their z2 is 529 for 16gb. If its actually 32 for that price then i will probably get it over the new nexus and the samsung tab s, as that will be a pretty good price, even if it only comes in white (I want the black >.<)
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It's 32gb. Seems in line with the USA price of $499.

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It's 32gb. Seems in line with the USA price of $499.
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Good. With how bad our dollar is compared to the US I'm fine with 30$ more.

$530 for the 32gb is what I was thinking it would be, though still hopping it would be lower...
Now I'll have to decide if i go with this or the Nvidia Shield LTE (for 32gb)

Falzo said:
$530 for the 32gb is what I was thinking it would be, though still hopping it would be lower...
Now I'll have to decide if i go with this or the Nvidia Shield LTE (for 32gb)
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I was strongly considering the Shield too based on the specs. However, there are too many issues and uncertainties:
- build quality and cracking even on "fixed" models
- wifi stability and signal issues
- random unresponsiveness and crashing
- black screens requiring reboot and non-responsiveness
- severe battery drain
- charging issues (ie plugged in but will not charge past a certain percent) plus it will stop charging at 100% and discharge to 0 overnight.
There are all sorts of attempts at fixes, but I believe the issues not worth the hassle, even to get one of them. It will be interesting to see if Lollipop remedies any of the issues.

Live now:
http://store.sony.ca/xperia-z3-tabl...Bx15ZjftBwzo_OuMWJMZWyGOLZeyL?_t=pfm=category

Rumoured Priv Specifications

Some rumours from here,
http://www.smartphoneandprice.com/b...-android-smartphone-full-specs-and-price.html
Can't comment on the accuracy though.
5.4" QHD Display, 2560x1440
18MP Rear facing camera
Snapdragon 808 CPU
3GB RAM
32GB internal storage, expandable via microSD
3560mAh battery
£250/$350/€320
If true, at that price I'm hugely tempted to move from my Xperia Z2.

While the specs are pretty decent, one of the other rumors Ive heard is that its coming with Lollipop. If I have a phone coming out in the next month or two, I want it to have Marshmallow or an absolute guaranteed timeframe of being upgraded. Granted, I am big on running ROM's but will the bootloader be unlocked to do so? And if so, how many developers will really jump on this phone to work on it?

From what I hear it ships with 5.1.1.
Marshmallow isn't even out yet is it? And is likely to be buggy are launch anyway. I doubt it'll be stable until towards the end of Q1 2016 so I don't think I'd want it shipping on a phone out this year.

That price looks way too low, and the battery rumors have been all over the place. Remember, that curved screens isn't cheap.

There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.

Joezhang said:
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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Yep, I agree. £400-£450 band is really buyable.
We don't know how BB places this phone on the market. Premium Business Device or Hi-End Consumer Phone ? Neither both, It won't be cheeper than S6 or Note 5 because build quality looks good and and additional hardware always cost more.

Joezhang said:
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.

Zer0.exe said:
assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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At that kind of price Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market really. If they want to shift units they're going to have to keep the price low when going up against other Android handsets.

I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?

HyperM3 said:
I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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That's a good question. I've heard absolutely nothing about how it charges. We don't even know if it has fast charging either. Hopefully it has both.

Does it has type c USB?

Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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All the leaks have shown a normal angular looking micro USB port.

Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.

Lagamorph said:
I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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One plus two.
Plus a number of less known phone companies (Xiaomi, LeTV, etc)
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I had a series of BB for 10 years. I miss the keyboard. I will have to try one of these and if they are close to the discussed price range will buy one. It looks like a large phone, however.

Sooo new spec sheets list the front cam as only 2 MP?? Is this an error or was the 5 MP rumor too good to be true? Not a deal breaker, but man, will THAT be disappointing. Awesome 18 MP Schneider Kreuznach lens on the back and... a camera from like 2005 on the front.

It's officially time, guys! Pre orders are LIVE!
http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-priv/buy.html
$699 for the U.S. version. The front cam is 2 MP, but has a f/2.9" aperture with 1.75 micron pixels. I'm no camera buff, but that sounds good? Also, NFC confirmed, Fast charging confirmed, wireless charging confirmed... No compromises aside from the battery being non removable. Releases November 6. Still no word on whether the carriers will sell them directly.

I have no idea why they would remove wireless charging on all the models except for the US, as the specs stand. They did spend the money to test them in the lab, then last minute pull it all out?

kakat08 said:
That phone is elegant but I'm worried about the Slide keyboard thing, if it uses flex cable it will wear anytime. One thing, it doesn't have gyro sensor.
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The mechanism is solid apparently.
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