I have been waiting for the nexus 9 for over a year and was very happy with the outcome my issue is that the price premium for the 32GB model is too much. I have attached a comparison of the nexus's, ipads and tab s's.
I originally completed the comparision to see how the conversion between $ and £ was working out, which apparently is about $1.25 per £. This is in line with the competition, and makes sense bearing in mind the UKs higher VAT. I have to note that the conversion for the 32gb model was not as good ($1.20), so I compared the storage premium.
The new IPads jump from 16gb to 64gb for the same price that the nexus 9 jumps from 16gb to 32gb. This means that the cost of each extra GB for the nexus 9 is $5/£5 , whereas the ipads are $2.10/£1.67, which is less than half the price.
I am really annoyed at google for doing this, no way is 16GB of extra storage worth £80, but as the tablet has no expandable storage, I will have to pay the extra. If for £80 the storage jumped to 64GB like the IPads I would be a lot happier.
What do you guys think of the price difference of the models? Do you think there is any chance of google dropping the 32GB models price to make it more in line with Apple (I didn't think I would ever say that apple gives better value than google but that is the case).
I really think Google gone mad on pricing the Nexus line up this year. Most of the people bought Nexus Devices just b'coz of the competitive pricing.
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I really think Google gone mad on pricing the Nexus line up this year. Most of the people bought Nexus Devices just b'coz of the competitive pricing.
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good pricing, and because of the price, last years chips. to my understanding, the new devices use the new chips and if we don't get the annoying screen issues plaguing the N7.2 , will be worth it. I've already told them to take my money, even though I have very little of it, and swore I would not get one so soon due to the issue I have with my N7.2
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fallen2004 said:
I have been waiting for the nexus 9 for over a year and was very happy with the outcome my issue is that the price premium for the 32GB model is too much. I have attached a comparison of the nexus's, ipads and tab s's.
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a comparison of just ram specs alone is not enough. its like comparing cars just based on their trunk space alone . toss in chip (engine) and battery (gas tank) and a few other specs to make the comparison more realistic.
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a comparison of just ram specs alone is not enough. its like comparing cars just based on their trunk space alone . toss in chip (engine) and battery (gas tank) and a few other specs to make the comparison more realistic.
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I know that the tablets all have different features. This was not meant to be a comparision of which tablet is the best value, I was just demonstrating how google has completely overpriced the 32GB model compared to the competition of which the IPad is the major one. The main point was the nexus 9 is the same price as the IPad mini 3 in the UK for the 16GB models but you can get the 64GB IPad mini 3 for the same price of the 32GB nexus 9.
So google should either bump the storage of the 32GB nexus 9 up to 64GB with no price increase or should knock £30-40 off the price to be more inline with its competitors. I have noticed that the price premium for the extra storage is not as much in the USA where the nexus 9 32GB is $20 cheaper than the IPad mini 3 64GB. I do not understand how there is $20 difference in the USA and no price difference in the UK.
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Nexus 9
16GB - $399
32Gb - $479
New Fire HDX 8.9 Without Special Offers (With Special Offers)
16GB - $394 ($379)
32GB - $444 ($429)
64GB - $494 ($479)
IPad Air
16GB - $399
32GB - $449
IPad Air 2
16GB - $499
64GB - $599
Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (8.4)
16GB - $499 ($399)
32GB - $549 (N/A)
The Nexus 9, specifications wise is meant to compete with the iPad Air 2. For an extra $80, you got to 32 GB from 16 GB while on the iPad Air 2, you go to 64GB from 16GB, but the base price starts at $100 more. The selling point over the Fire HDX, is accessibility and freedom.
I didn't think of looking at amazon.
So apple, samsung and amazon all charge $50 for a storage increase from 16GB to 32GB, whereas google is charging $80.
I am very disappointed in google for this, why did they not do the same as everyone else and charge $50 for the storage increase, which would have made the 32GB nexus 9 $449.
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Just ordered a transformer from Target after finding out thru their CS that the price on line of 449.99 on Target .com is the new Mfg Sugg Retail price They were the only one with units in stock. Amazon is now asking 299.99 for the dock. Wow they are really gouging buyers. What do you guys think about this?
i wouldn't call it Amazon that's selling the dock for $299...amazon sellers maybe.
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i wouldn't call it Amazon that's selling the dock for $299...amazon sellers maybe.
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Probably so but you are directed to the Amazon site for Asus EEE Transformer dock.
MSRP increase due to popularity isn't unheard of, but I think Target is just trying to cash in.
The dock prices are from 3rd party sellers not Amazon.
If they bump the price up $50.00 - it's closer to the price of the Samsung tab retail price by only 50 bucks.
The demand might drop a bit - I know I'd consider a lighter - thinner Samsung tab - if the difference is 50 rather than 100 bucks between the two.
I just ordered a 16gb from Sears for 389 or something around there
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nook-color said:
If they bump the price up $50.00 - it's closer to the price of the Samsung tab retail price by only 50 bucks.
The demand might drop a bit - I know I'd consider a lighter - thinner Samsung tab - if the difference is 50 rather than 100 bucks between the two.
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I was actually going to hold off on the TF even with the $100 difference. What changed? The reviews of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LE (given free at I/O) pointed out that their wifi-only unit did not have a microSD slot. They concluded that the regular black model would be the same and only the 3G models would come with it. That plus no HDMI support was an absolute deal-breaker.
They also pointed out that their units came with Tegra 2 and not Sammy's latest (as seen on Galaxy SII). It would make sense for the production versions to follow suit as well.
Just wanted to share costco.com is selling the 16 for 429 and the 32 for 499. They have a 90 day return policy so if a better tablet comes out, take yours back and buy the better one.
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Just wanted to share costco.com is selling the 16 for 429 and the 32 for 499. They have a 90 day return policy so if a better tablet comes out, take yours back and buy the better one.
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Just bought mine at Best Buy for 429. Man wish had a costco round here, NE Ohio, Stark county
got mine for 399
$399 for 16gig is the norm right now.
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Just bought mine at Best Buy for 429. Man wish had a costco round here, NE Ohio, Stark county
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i know it is a little bit of a drive but there is a costco on the north side of columbus. it is just outside of Polaris mall.
I missed the Ebay Daily Deal - 16GB Toshiba Thrive $330 + Free Shipping.
That was back on 9/1.
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i know it is a little bit of a drive but there is a costco on the north side of columbus. it is just outside of Polaris mall.
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Thx I go by there every nite ,wife and i will have to take road trip.
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Best buy has 8gb version on sale for only $279 right now. The black Friday sale ends Saturday though. They should have plenty in stock as this is not a popular tablet. I'm seriously considering getting one since they sold out of the 16gb Asus Transformer for only $249. I'm doing my research now comparing the two. The Thrive has the full size ports going for it. I am concerned about the battery life and if this thrive has IPS screen like transformer. From the demo version at best buy, it didn't look like the screen was looking as good as the Transformer although same screen resolution. Also heard this thrive doesn't have gorilla glass. What can you owners tell me if any of this Is true or not. I'd rather have more storage but not an issue since this tkes full size SD cards.
BuyDig has the 03GB for $300
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Someone with more tech knowledge than myself help me out here, and didn't see this posted before.
I know Google is pretty much selling close to cost, so what would be a decent value price point based on other tablets in your opinion?
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I saw a detailed cost breakdown, from some website
Google is profiting like $50 bucks on the 8GB model and maybe $80 bucks profit on the 16GB model.
Its not like Sony who is lossing about $150 per every PS Vita sold.
In terms of what they're trying to do with this tablet, I'd say 200/250 is about right. If they made it more expensive, the less tech-knowledgeable people would settle for the kindle fire. They'll make the money back over time.
However, if the thing had a Micro SD card, I could see 25-50 bucks of a bump.
I guess I'm trying to say what could they charge and it still be considered competitive with others
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The only thing that comes close to this is the Fire, I'm sure Google could charge a nice premium for the better hardware. How much? Dunno...
$200/$250 is probably about as much as they can charge and have it be a big success. They needed to match the price of the Kindle Fire but still make it powerful enough for gaming.
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...However, if the thing had a Micro SD card, I could see 25-50 bucks of a bump.
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It would cost under $1 to add it.
I will go ahead and buy the 16Gb version, but I agree with you that this is the one big miss on the device (likely intentional, G wants you in the cloud)
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The Nexus 7 is superior to any $200 tablet available such as the Acer A110, Lenovo, Kindle Fire. So it's value is over $200.
It's a better tablet than the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, so it's value would be over $250.
Then there are the 7.7 AMOLED tablets from Samsung and Toshiba for about $450 to $500. Because of the slightly larger display AMOLED display, I'd say the Nexus 7 should fall below these in price.
I think it is probably not crazy to say if this wasn't sold by Google at cost, but by someone else for profit, it could easily be priced around $300 for 8GB and $350 for 16GB I think.
I want to be a 7" tab for gaming and watching videos. Is tab 2 a good buy ? Because nexus 7 costs almost double than tab 2 in my country.
Or should I go with nexus 7, it is worth the price?
I am really confused
The gtab7" is a decent tab. I have the 10.1" and like it a lot. If I were to buy a 7"tab though, I would buy the nexus (probably the new updated version) The gtab2 7" is selling in the US for around $170. The current nexus 7 16gb is going for around $200 and $250 for 32gb. So for me the current version nexus 7 would Be the best option as far as price goes.
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The gtab7" is a decent tab. I have the 10.1" and like it a lot. If I were to buy a 7"tab though, I would buy the nexus (probably the new updated version) The gtab2 7" is selling in the US for around $170. The current nexus 7 16gb is going for around $200 and $250 for 32gb. So for me the current version nexus 7 would Be the best option as far as price goes.
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Thank you very much for your adivce!
Here tab2 16gb costs $160 and nexus 7 $280. That's why i was confused. Is nexus 7 worth extra $120?
gekyfela said:
Thank you very much for your adivce!
Here tab2 16gb costs $160 and nexus 7 $280. That's why i was confused. Is nexus 7 worth extra $120?
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Spec wise, the nexus 7 is the faster device and will get newer versions of android faster, so if those are the end all be all then is the extra 120 worth that to you, but also remember the nexus 7 (like the entire nexus line) lacks a microsd card slot, so if that is important to you then you can just take the nexus 7 off your list of possibles.
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Spec wise, the nexus 7 is the faster device and will get newer versions of android faster, so if those are the end all be all then is the extra 120 worth that to you, but also remember the nexus 7 (like the entire nexus line) lacks a microsd card slot, so if that is important to you then you can just take the nexus 7 off your list of possibles.
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Thanks a lot! :good:
They have lost their marbles... As far as specs aren't they identical to the Note 10.1 2014 just a larger screen and more internal storage?
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/612404/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Pro-Android-Tablet/
Wow. If this is accurate and I have no doubt that it is then it's past my threshold for what I want to spend for a tablet. I don't even think 100.00 more should be right. Lower the 10.1 the same 100.00 to offer a cheaper than usual price point and make the 12.2 500.00.
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They have lost their marbles... As far as specs aren't they identical to the Note 10.1 2014 just a larger screen and more internal storage?
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/612404/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Pro-Android-Tablet/
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So if you figure 10.1 2014 16gb is $549 and 32gb is $599 would a 64gb unit be $649 or $699.
So now add USB 3.0 and a much larger screen...... yeah...... $849 is about right.
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They have lost their marbles...
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This.
Let's assume the 32GB is $749. Add on the matching Logitech Keyboard for $130 and you're at $879. There are a lot of ultrabook, convertible, and Surface-esque options in that price range. I guess based on Samsung's typical tiered pricing $749/849 shouldn't be a surprise but that's a heap load of money for an Android tablet. The phone UI looks funky on our 10" display. The Notification Panel icons are probably about two inches square on a 12" display. And all the historic Android productivity challenges that we (and all those that came before us) suffer extend to the Tab/Note Pro's too. So Samsung went with "build it and they will come." At those prices let's see how many "come."
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Samsung has lost it. I don't think even Apple would price a 12 inch iPad that high. Bunch of goofballs, I want whatever they're on.
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So if you figure 10.1 2014 16gb is $549 and 32gb is $599 would a 64gb unit be $649 or $699.
So now add USB 3.0 and a much larger screen...... yeah...... $849 is about right.
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I agree. Compared to the 10.1 tablets I do not see the price as being out of line. Sure it is not for everyone but it is far from being stupidly priced...at least not when compared to other tablets on the market.
I don't see the market for it. Seems too expensive for an entertainment device. Android falls pretty short as a business tool compared to the other options in that price range.
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LOL.
Samsung has lost it. I don't think even Apple would price a 12 inch iPad that high. Bunch of goofballs, I want whatever they're on.
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The 64gb iPad is $699 and $799 for a 128gb so I think you will see $899 for the 12.9 inch tablet that Apple will releases later this year.
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That's really a lot of money for a tablet. I'm not saying its overpriced in regards to specs vs profit margin... But I think consumers may not be willing to shell out that much scratch for a tablet
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goood luck with that Samsung...what an awful price point
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I bought SM-P605 32 GB for around 850US, so I rather buy NotePro 12.2 WiFi 64GB for that money and I got no use for LTE anyway. In US maybe its much, but in EU its cheap price and in Sweden I think it gonna cost around 1200US. Only SM-P 605 16 GB cost 1200US here in Sweden.
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Samsung's really suffering from a severe case of wishful thinking. The Tab|Pro 8.4 is $50 more than the Note 8 ($349 vs. $399) which I guess is excusable because the former's got some big upgrades over the latter (SoC, display resolution). The Tab|Pro 10.1 is the same price as the N10.1-14 and they are physically identical with the latter having more RAM and S Pen. The 16GB iPad Mini Retina is $399 so Samsung's looking for the same cash for the Tab|Pro 8.4. The 16GB iPad Air is $499 so Samsung wants the same thing for the Tab|Pro 10.1. Good luck with that one; especially since the N10.1-14 at least has an exclusive feature (S Pen) that could possibly justify a price point that matches Apple's. I really do think Samsung's crossed in to the delusional and the new tablet's pricing is nuts and the positioning (or lack of) against their existing/previous tablets is just going to leave people confused.
Wait wtf..TabPro in the US = note 10.1 2014 price? lol. Who the hell would get the TabPro for the same price (assuming they are equally informed about the note). Considering you are paying the same price for less features.
Link is gone so maybe they will change the price
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Link is gone so maybe they will change the price
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The prices I posted are the pre-order prices buying direct from the Samsung U.S. website. They haven't changed. But once early adopter buying helps judge interest I bet you'll see "$50 (or more) off for a limited time;" perhaps as early as a month to six weeks. I admire Samsung's ambition but people didn't buy tons of Nexus 10's with its "iPad equal" display so relying on lipstick (M-UX), a focus on productivity (every included app is available third party on any Android tablet), and h/w improvements (if h/w is all that matters why do they sell so many Tab 2/3's?) to get people to buy high-end Android tablets at Apple prices I wish them luck. They'll probably spend a gazillion dollars promoting the new tablets and God knows that amount of marketing helped them get where their are in smartphones so maybe that'll work. I'm in marketing and think this whole high-end tablet (pricing and features) push is going to fall flat. When people think of tablets they think Apple=high-end and Android=cheap and that's what sales (even Samsung's in 2013) reflect.
Ye I got what you meant. I'm sure Samsung is testing the waters and see how many will take the bait. If its less than their target then they will surely rethink their stand.