Have any of you tried out ART on the DX port of CM11? Does it really boost performance? I know it compiles beforehand rather than using a JIT. I'm just wondering if it's noticeable.
argentwarrior20 said:
Have any of you tried out ART on the DX port of CM11? Does it really boost performance? I know it compiles beforehand rather than using a JIT. I'm just wondering if it's noticeable.
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We've already stated that ART works, but is not stable
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What is the reason behind such great improvements in the hero's performance when using CM6 or ASOP mods? Is it mainly because of the kernel? the froyo OS?
Any answers to enlighten a newbie is greatly appreciated. thanks.
Yes and yes. Also the lack of sense frees up a bunch of ram.
sent from my hero, which no longer sucks ass
im assuming the kernel is more important for performance and speed than the froyo os?
kfreshx said:
im assuming the kernel is more important for performance and speed than the froyo os?
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Well...arguably. I would say the bigger performance enhancer is actually just not having Sense, followed by a close second of the kernel. The ROM and kernel really work together to get the performance boost. So, not having Sense, running a custom ROM, and loading a custom kernel is where the speed comes from. All are optimized, tweaked and made for the Hero.
So, now that ART is becoming more of a stable thing that works on more apps AND dual boot is available... I was thinking of doing an experiment of the same rom with all the same settings dual booting with 1 running Dalvik, and 1 running ART. Looking for suggestions on what kinds of tests on what rom(s) / kernels / mods you'd be interested in seeing?
Sounds like a great idea. I'd say test with the stock kernel to get a good baseline then maybe see if there is a difference with custom kernels. Benchmarks don't seem to show any increases with art if anything they're lower. But to me art seems smoother transitioning between apps and basic ui usage. I'd say also throw in the moto x dalvik tweak.
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ART was stable since day 1. It were the apps that needed to support it...
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Yea, and I was thinking now with screen recording, it might be a good way to see it in action directly. So I guess the first option would be to be completely stock / odexed / etc?
I agree about the ART stability, but the end result for the normal user was the same - issues.
Only thing I would worry about is the overhead of the screen recorder might impact performance. I know on my pc screen recording had a significant impact on performance.
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Ahh. Good point. What about screen recording via PC + adb? Haven't looked into it yet so just spitballing...
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Elisha said:
ART was stable since day 1. It were the apps that needed to support it...
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No, they solved several critical bugs in 4.4.1 (check change log). And I am sure some remains.
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I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
gkhemka said:
I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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ART is still hit and miss because not all apps are compatible with it, yet. I have a simple setup with my N7 and ART runs just fine. I'm not running Slimkat at this time, however.
Have u tried any other rom?
gkhemka said:
I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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Did u try some other rom? Im using liquidsmooth with art and it is seriously fast. Btw, ART basically reduces app loading times not much else. Try overclocking if u want a serious improvement in performance
I would not overclock the N7. There is a big battery drain even without OC. And the speed improvement isn't that much. For me ART needed it's time establish and then it ran smooth.
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gkhemka said:
I am using Slimkat ROM build 4997 with F2FS on my Nexus 7 Grouper
Enabling ART on this device seems to cause major lag and slowdowns. Can anyone help on why this is happening? I was expecting faster performance compared to Dalvik.
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I was just looking for this topic myself. Same.. I'm running AOKP 4.4.4 on f2fs.. We all know the N7 2012 is a lag monster but I figured ART wouldn't hurt, but in reality I'm seeing slower launches, in-app lags, just random stutters in apps that I've never seen before.
I'm going back to Dalvik, looks like it's not just me. Maybe ART wasn't on this chipset for a reason (not optimized for Tegra 3 etc).
Hello everyone:
as everyone knows Android introduced a new run time in kitkat which it ART. they say its faster than Dalvik as it precompiles the apps. in sense 6 we can choose which runtime we want to use when enabling Developer options so we can have a peak at the new runtime which will be used officially in Android L.
from Wiki:
Dalvik is the process virtual machine (VM) in Google's Android operating system. It is the software that runs the applications on Android devices. Dalvik is thus an integral part of Android, which is typically used on mobile devices such as mobile phones and tablet computers as well as more recently on embedded devices such as smart TVs and media streamers.
Android Runtime (ART) is an application runtime environment used by the Android mobile operating system. ART replaces Dalvik, which is the process virtual machine originally used by Android, and performs transformation of the application's bytecode into native instructions that are later executed by the device's runtime environment.
let us know what do you think about running ART in your experience (Speed,Stability and battery life) and if you had any problems please post which rom you are/were using.
I'm using ART on my GPE converted M8. Was using Dalvik when I was on Sense though.
I'm currently using it on ViperOne Rom 2.4.0. Is it faster? Well, first we need to figure out how to measure lightning!
It's also supposed to make a slight improvement in battery life, I would guess because it takes less power to load up apps so it keeps cpu clock speeds down. Just a stab in the dark there though.
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Well, the art we have on KK is outdated and nothing compared to the Art we will have on Android L...
I'm not sure if it really is better than Dalvik on its current stage ,but the one on Android L certainly is.
Teio said:
Well, the art we have on KK is outdated and nothing compared to the Art we will have on Android L...
I'm not sure if it really is better than Dalvik on its current stage ,but the one on Android L certainly is.
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Yes Android L ART is different. With the current one you can't notice a difference really.. maybe abit.. and some people say it's laggy.
I noticed it depends on the app for me. Most work fine, but apps like Nike+ and certain games load slow or hang up for me.
PcFish said:
I noticed it depends on the app for me. Most work fine, but apps like Nike+ and certain games load slow or hang up for me.
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There's a thing in me that keeps going back to ART.. but now I'm back to dalvik my phone was stuck on chrome browser before 5mins.. tbh the ART we have now is abit slower and more laggy than dalvik maybe a sense case. It works fine in my HTC one X running 4.4.4 AOSPA rom or CM11
I have set my HTC one M8 today to ART. Now i cannot instal APK files on the Phone.
Justin2003 said:
I have set my HTC one M8 today to ART. Now i cannot instal APK files on the Phone.
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Which Rom are you using?
Stock rom
I'm using Sinless Rom GPE as the ART Version. It works like a charme. Really smooth and fast.
Have no problems to install apks or something.
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Stock rom
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Didn't have problems on stock rom.
force close on Art
Almost all my apps force closes on ART. ViperM8 Rom. Returned back to dalvik
side_flip15 said:
Almost all my apps force closes on ART. ViperM8 Rom. Returned back to dalvik
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Do you have some themes or mods not made for viper?
I don't notice any significant difference between art and dalvic. I am using art at time of me posting this
mushages said:
There's a thing in me that keeps going back to ART.. but now I'm back to dalvik my phone was stuck on chrome browser before 5mins.. tbh the ART we have now is abit slower and more laggy than dalvik maybe a sense case. It works fine in my HTC one X running 4.4.4 AOSPA rom or CM11
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So not recommend one for x with CM11?? The proglem is Tegra3?
andrearx said:
So not recommend one for x with CM11?? The proglem is Tegra3?
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well try it and judge mine was working fine
Odly enough using quadrant benchmark was much higher using Dalvic. Art was 1500 and 2100. I don't orgasm or benchmarks and take it for what it is but interesting none theess
Hello,
Rom for best camera, TW based rom or AOSP based rom?
currently using Phoenix Rom 10.2 TW based rom.
Rvl7 said:
Hello,
Rom for best camera, TW based rom or AOSP based rom?
currently using Phoenix Rom 10.2 TW based rom.
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With stock camera, always TW it's better than AOSP or CM !:good:
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With stock camera, always TW it's better than AOSP or CM !:good:
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until snapdragoncamera is enabled in CM
hm.. any recommendation AOSP / CM build and TW build that i can try? Currently Phoenix 10.5
Rvl7 said:
hm.. any recommendation AOSP / CM build and TW build that i can try? Currently Phoenix 10.5
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Personal I use Maverick (I am very happy with this rom)
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Opensource Open Camera works with any ROM. Might be better than changing entire ROM.
opencamera.sourceforge.net
opencamera sucked for me, confusing interface, crashed on cm-12.1-20151226-NIGHTLY-klte (havent tried it again after moving to CM13), doesnt do anything for 60 or 120fps so i'll just use AOSP/stock CM until snapcamera is enabled... which appears to be so soon omg such excite, very anticipation http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/127285/
Non-TW based camera apps will suffer from low voice recording. There is a workaround for AOSP ROMs but it is not as good as TW.
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/127285/ next time nightly compiles, snapcamera is enabled!!!!!
kn00tcn said:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/127285/ next time nightly compiles, snapcamera is enabled!!!!!
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Can you tell me what you mean with enabled Snapcamera? Is that just the app or some kick ass high quality drivers?
Eeuwe said:
Can you tell me what you mean with enabled Snapcamera? Is that just the app or some kick ass high quality drivers?
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qualcomm made a reference 'snapdragon camera' app for their processors, CM team has been working on porting that code for devices & material design
sultan's rom for oneplusone has used this app for a few months now, he has also submitted code updates to the CM version, i think lg g3 users have also had a port of the app to play with
all 3 of these devices (s5, o+o, g3) use the same 'Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801' chip, hence snapcamera, CM is enabling it on various devices over time
i am unclear on how many features there are, but possible ones are picture modes, shutter control, histogram, sharpness, anti banding (artifacts from 50 or 60hz light bulbs), denoise, timelapse, & i am expecting... hoping... for 60fps & 120fps
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Can you tell me what you mean with enabled Snapcamera? Is that just the app or some kick ass high quality drivers?
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Image quality wise, compared to TW and CM's camera, it basically just have very low noise reduction which causes less blurry pics on low light and which results in more detail
Snapcamera seem promising , where i can get updated info for S5?
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Snapcamera seem promising , where i can get updated info for S5?
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what do you mean, it's already been enabled for a week, just try CM13 nightly
i'm not sure if there is a timelapse feature, there are also more options that i'm not seeing but i know are in the code... i will try a newer nightly eventually
kn00tcn said:
what do you mean, it's already been enabled for a week, just try CM13 nightly
i'm not sure if there is a timelapse feature, there are also more options that i'm not seeing but i know are in the code... i will try a newer nightly eventually
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Where i can find CM13 nightly thread?
iam not found the thread
Rvl7 said:
Where i can find CM13 nightly thread?
iam not found the thread
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what thread... where do you think CM is made?
https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=klte
http://www.cmxlog.com/13/klte/