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Im using Fresh 1.0 as of right now, I like it alot. Just wondering if theres anything out that would make my phone even smoother.
fastest would be IMO the AOSP 1.6, then the AOSP Eclair, then the 2.1 Sense Eclair, then modacco or fresh (cant really tell speed differnece between the two)
keep in my that these are the fastest imo not the most stable
For speed with full functionality, i would say the Fresh 1.0 with sense disabled. Faster but still very useful is the AOSP 1.6 with GoogleBits installed. The camera and sensors work, and overall it is a pretty complete build. There is no BT or speaker phone (among other things).
The fastest, MOST COMPLETE rom would have to be Fresh 1.0 imo. It flies.
I try Fresh, 2.1 and Modaco UN 1.3.. and from my experience I liked 2.1 the best is the fastest. but since its still missing accelerometer, I'm currently running UN Modaco 1.3 in my opinion is way faster. I installed it with full Wipe on the phone and its just flying.
I don't go for the NON SENSE Rom because that beats the purpose of having a HTC Hero, I mean if you don't want SENSE then in my opinion why not get a Samsung Moment?
And that's what i think about it..
I just flashed to fresh 1.1 from un 1.3 and am loving it. no FC as of yet and just seems really smooth.
Nice n Quik
so far i am using the Fresh 1.1 and its woerkin beautifully..no FC's or anything...good rom. Just waiting on Fresh's 2.1 Eclair
It might be trivial for me to point this out, but Fresh is the name of the rom not the team/person creating it. I believe it is maintained by flipzmode/freshlyill and they do outstanding work.
I've been beta testing AOSP 1.6 & love the snappiness. Toss the Googlebits on top of that & you have a ball rolling. Sure it has it's minor quirks, but it IS a Dev-ROM....
im running the "cSrOm 2.1.7" it uses 2.1 firmware, with a custom darchstar kernel oc to 768mhz, it has a linpack score of 3.266, so far very stable and very smooth and fast for me, if anyone has faster roms please be more specific, i like specs, numbers, opinions, thank you
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im running the "cSrOm 2.1.7" it uses 2.1 firmware, with a custom darchstar kernel oc to 768mhz, it has a linpack score of 3.266, so far very stable and very smooth and fast for me, if anyone has faster roms please be more specific, i like specs, numbers, opinions, thank you
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Holy thread-resurrected-from-the-dead, batman!
CM6 with Deca's CFS kernel + LauncherPro for me.
CM6 and my theme
How do I tell what rom I am using? I just rooted my phone using the instructions found on these forums. Does that mean I have the stock rom?
I have tried cm6 but have had issues with the radio.
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A rom is cm6, or Fresh 2.4, if you went back to stock sprint software than you have stock rom.
I knew what ROMS are, I just don't know what ROM i am using. It looks pretty much exactly like the stock HTC rom.
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I knew what ROMS are, I just don't know what ROM i am using. It looks pretty much exactly like the stock HTC rom.
Sounds like Fresh 2.4.
Go to settings and cluck about phone down at the bottom. You should find what rom your using under the software setting I believe.
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Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?
Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.
It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.
I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion
Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.
Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.
Hey guys,
I've got a question for those of you that have rooted your devices and flashed custom ROMs. Pretty much the only thing i dislike about the legend is jerky scrolling and laggy pinch to zoom.
I haven't seen this answered over in development because all discussions about ROMs seem to be centred around benchmarks, SetCPU variables etc. I'm interested in real world performance and I don't really want to go through all the effort of learning how to root the device and flash a custom ROM (either Blay0's or Paul's Modaco ROM) without finding out if it improves the things I've want improved.
So, just wondering: in your opinion, does flashing a custom rom speed up the device in real world, day to day terms or is it not really noticeable? I'm curious and I've never seen this answered before
Thanks
zuka
I use blayo's b0.6 rom [email protected] and a2sd, and it definitely feels faster than the stock rom. No noticeably lag in scrolling or pinch-zoom for me.
BlaY0's ROM is genuinely faster, as is CM6.1 (or CM7 if you're feeling brave ). It's nice to see that you don't believe in benchmarks
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BlaY0's ROM is genuinely faster, as is CM6.1 (or CM7 if you're feeling brave ). It's nice to see that you don't believe in benchmarks
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I used b0.6 [email protected] a2sd and now CM7 #19 same OC. Benchmarks are always over 1000 (200/400 with stocks) and b0.6 offers you to get more than 1700
I'm coming from stock 2.2 SFR had lags as hell...the improvement is general for me
To compare, I tried the game angry birds with stock rom and it was unplayable: now it's simply perfect with these custom roms.
My phone has not been running as smmothly as I would have liked. While there is not as much support as I would like for CM7 and the new spl and radio I am sick and tired of changing the radio and spl via fastboot so I am staying but I would like the user experience to be more pleasant. What performance settings work best for you? What CPU settings do you use? What are the best patches? What is so great about Yoshi? I hear you have only half phone functionality with his ROM aka I'll pass. Is there a stable version of Honeycomb available?
WOW... I have to say I am shocked... YOOOSHI is faster than Cyanogen by far... running 124 apps very SMOOOTHLY. No lag @ Compache Hack 32mb swap, JIT on, vm heap 32, home and messaging in memory, dithering disabled, in mem CPU low 160, high 576... no swapiness. Default Yoshi launcher. Thanks Yoshi, can't wait for honeycomb.
Froyo for Trout
GetTargetedFans said:
My phone has not been running as smmothly as I would have liked. While there is not as much support as I would like for CM7 and the new spl and radio I am sick and tired of changing the radio and spl via fastboot so I am staying but I would like the user experience to be more pleasant. What performance settings work best for you? What CPU settings do you use? What are the best patches? What is so great about Yoshi? I hear you have only half phone functionality with his ROM aka I'll pass. Is there a stable version of Honeycomb available?
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Hi,
I tried CM6 on my G1/Dream and the phone was very slow and lagged everytime. I think that CM is for phone with more memory and CPU. But you could try the ROM Froyo for Trout, I did it and it is fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825716
cabrerachaparro said:
Hi,
I tried CM6 on my G1/Dream and the phone was very slow and lagged everytime. I think that CM is for phone with more memory and CPU. But you could try the ROM Froyo for Trout, I did it and it is fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825716
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Ok will try thanks, any idea when honeycomb will be available? Do you think G1 will be able to handle the new ROM?
Honeycomb is not coming out for phones. Honeycomb/Android 3.0+ is for tablets. And if your G1 is having issues running CM6/7 you are more than likely not going to be able to run Honeycomb as it is optimized for dual-core processors.
Try laszlos froyo best rom I've used on g1 froyo 4 trout is also good but you have to manually congif some stuff laszlos is good right out of the box
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In terms of Gingerbread ROMs, the latest COS-DS by roalex has been running exceptionally well on my Magic.
CM7 has been pretty disappointing thus far.
Is it CM7 are official release ? i think is much better to try with Yoshi or Laszlo ROM
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Honeycomb is not coming out for phones. Honeycomb/Android 3.0+ is for tablets. And if your G1 is having issues running CM6/7 you are more than likely not going to be able to run Honeycomb as it is optimized for dual-core processors.
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Look at this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974087&page=14
Honeycomb already ported for G1, but, of course is not yet fully functional.
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Is it CM7 are official release ? i think is much better to try with Yoshi or Laszlo ROM
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Checked/run both CM7Unofficial and Ginger Yoshi RC5.2. I wanna just say that Yoshi's ROM works twice as fast and fully stable than CM7. System settings were the same for both ROMs.
I will try Froyo for trout. Unfortunatly Yoshi has started locking up. Honeycomb doesn't sound so promising anymore. Yes the G1 is a freak but at this point its like trying to modify windows 7 on a machine built for windows 95. What is the point? I'm not thrilled with CM7, and I HATE CLockwork recovery and if its the only way for me to get updates from the phone forget it...
Super D. Deez nutz donut.
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Super D. Deez nutz donut.
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Super D is Super outDated, fast but a blast from the past, on the other hand Super F. Super Fu*k is a monster... and I have to say Froyo is by far the fastest, eats Gingerbread man, brings the bees to it's knees and Cyanogen is striaght up unstable, willing, but unable.
Im a tad confused... are there just enough differences between stock and LOS/AOSP roms that it really warrants separate kernels?
Stock seems pretty darn close to LOS to me...
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Im a tad confused... are there just enough differences between stock and LOS/AOSP roms that it really warrants separate kernels?
Stock seems pretty darn close to LOS to me...
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Far more to it than the differences on the surface that you see. With regards to your concern about kernels. Most of the Pie rom's here use EAS kernels which at this point have made the default HMP kernel on stock fairly meaningless. Performance and battery life has become so much better now that the most used kernel Artemis has matured alot. Alongside Neutrino as well. Either of these kernels offer better performance and battery life over stock. So this won't be a different in features or amount of apps installed but rather almost a very different feel to the phone. Case in point scrolling on large mounds of text or say the Play Store is leaps and bounds smoother on an EAS kernel vs an HMP kernel. Hope this helps
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Far more to it than the differences on the surface that you see. With regards to your concern about kernels. Most of the Pie rom's here use EAS kernels which at this point have made the default HMP kernel on stock fairly meaningless. Performance and battery life has become so much better now that the most used kernel Artemis has matured alot. Alongside Neutrino as well. Either of these kernels offer better performance and battery life over stock. So this won't be a different in features or amount of apps installed but rather almost a very different feel to the phone. Case in point scrolling on large mounds of text or say the Play Store is leaps and bounds smoother on an EAS kernel vs an HMP kernel. Hope this helps
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oh i definately get the benefits
on exkernel atm, and live the differences it made... i just dont understand why we "cant" use the same kernel on a LOS rom.
there only differences i really "see" are some extra framework files
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oh i definately get the benefits
on exkernel atm, and live the differences it made... i just dont understand why we "cant" use the same kernel on a LOS rom.
there only differences i really "see" are some extra framework files
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Wifi is built as a module on stock... And is kernel integrated on custom...
So if you don't use wifi... Do your thing booboo
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Wifi is built as a module on stock... And is kernel integrated on custom...
So if you don't use wifi... Do your thing booboo
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there we go
exactly the sort of stuff im lookin for
personally... i could live without wifi.... but anything else? ive seen other devices with similar modules for bluetooth, external storage (sdcard), etc....
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there we go
exactly the sort of stuff im lookin for
personally... i could live without wifi.... but anything else? ive seen other devices with similar modules for bluetooth, external storage (sdcard), etc....
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Afaik... Just WiFi