Is such a thing possible without waiting/hoping for a bootloader unlock to run AOSP style roms? My curiosity has been peaked if building vanilla android over the stock kernel is possible. Ive always hated touchwiz with a passion and now im kicking myself for not getting the dev edition (I kinda hoped bootloader unlock would come around much quicker). Anybody know of such a thing being done or if its even possible? I am by no means a developer, but well into being considered a "power user"
Riot81 said:
Is such a thing possible without waiting/hoping for a bootloader unlock to run AOSP style roms? My curiosity has been peaked if building vanilla android over the stock kernel is possible. Ive always hated touchwiz with a passion and now im kicking myself for not getting the dev edition (I kinda hoped bootloader unlock would come around much quicker). Anybody know of such a thing being done or if its even possible? I am by no means a developer, but well into being considered a "power user"
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Not possible as far as I know. TouchWiz is heavily integrated into the stock system and kernel. You'd need a AOSP compatible kernel to run AOSP.
Something like this is the closest we will get to AOSP. Theamed TW is it for our locked bootloaders.
Misterxtc said:
Something like this is the closest we will get to AOSP. Theamed TW is it for our locked bootloaders.
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That ROM actually looks really good. Any way to flash it to the g900v?
Riot81 said:
That ROM actually looks really good. Any way to flash it to the g900v?
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Most likely not because all the coding that went into the ROM. You could always buy @nitroglycerine33 a VZW GS5.
Riot81 said:
That ROM actually looks really good. Any way to flash it to the g900v?
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I ran Nitro's Eclipse ROM on my Moto Razr Maxx HD and my Dev Edition S4. Great ROMs. When I went to the Dev Edition S5 I asked him if he would make a S5 version of the Eclipse ROM. He said he had no plans to buy an S5, so no, that is not going to happen.
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I've been awaiting my all time favorite ROM, and just wanted to see if there was anyone working on it yet. I'm no developer, and I can't find anything on Google as far as development for PA goes for this device, so I wanted to see what XDA was up to.
Redjax said:
I've been awaiting my all time favorite ROM, and just wanted to see if there was anyone working on it yet. I'm no developer, and I can't find anything on Google as far as development for PA goes for this device, so I wanted to see what XDA was up to.
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You currently won't see PA unless its on Dev Edition device as consumer edition phones on safestrap can only use stock kernel - and PA uses AOSP kernel.
Best chance you have of seeing this is if someone pulls out the hat trick and figures out a modified stock kernel to work with AOSP (very very not likely) OR the bootloader gets unlocked
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You currently won't see PA unless its on Dev Edition device as consumer edition phones on safestrap can only use stock kernel - and PA uses AOSP kernel.
Best chance you have of seeing this is if someone pulls out the hat trick and figures out a modified stock kernel to work with AOSP (very very not likely) OR the bootloader gets unlocked
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this^^
bootloader will have to get unlocked i believe for aosp stuff. i ran cm11 on my dev note 3 yesterday and it is super smooth cant wait to see it with verizon data and no sms issues. it will be sweet!!
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
No, still can't flash custom kernels
mjh68 said:
No, still can't flash custom kernels
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there are may subjects and threads on this matter. I realized that not everyone understands everything, but if you know enough to register on this site, you must know how to use the search function.
to sum up:
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for the time being s4 and above on verizon wont be able to run aosp roms*
*besides developers edition. (if you have to ask, you don't have one)
dogenut said:
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
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i did the same thing back in January and i'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing a lot more research first. samsung software has got to be the worst, thats why this phone has 3 gb ram. use towel root and at least get root access to shut half the ****ty software off. the custom roms for this phone are just rework versions of bloatwiz.
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
dogenut said:
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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The likelihood that our bootloader will even be unlocked or that any real development will go into kexec allowing us to flash custom kernels is probably close to 0%, meaning there will not be a cyanogenmod for retail N3.
However, if you are looking for a closer to AOSP rom check out Eclipse Rom. The dev has put much coding into the rom to make it feel like AOSP, it's not without its faults but what rom is perfect?
Also the devs for Alliance Rom have said they will be releasing an AOSP version in the future and many people are looking forward to that.
With practically any rom you will find yourself uninstalling a lot of bloatware unless you are one of the few who bought a Samsung device to use the proprietary software.
Either way, have fun.
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
OhaiiDan said:
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
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I think you should be able to put custom roms even on those devices.
However, I think there's nothing like unlocked, international version of the device.
I wonder though whether Snapdragon is better than Exynos regarding this issue.
Anyway, good luck. I hope to read interesting opinions about this, as all I wrote here are just guesses.
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I think you should be able to put custom roms even on those devices.
However, I think there's nothing like unlocked, international version of the device.
I wonder though whether Snapdragon is better than Exynos regarding this issue.
Anyway, good luck. I hope to read interesting opinions about this, as all I wrote here are just guesses.
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well I've seen custom roms on these devices, but the roms cannot be fully customizable like cyannogenmod. They have to be touch wiz based roms for them to be able to work on these devices.
OhaiiDan said:
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
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Stock rom with root and xposed framework will offer a ton of mods for you
i sold my 900a in favor of a 900f. locked bootloader meant no custom kernel.
I am looking to get rid of my htc one m8 and go back to Samsung. I know the s5 does not have an unlocked boot loader but it looks like custom roms can happen via safestrap. My question is, when buying the phone used, is there a specific software version i DO NOT want? The goal is to root, safestrap and then put some sort of custom rom on the phone.
Thanks
dougmod said:
I am looking to get rid of my htc one m8 and go back to Samsung. I know the s5 does not have an unlocked boot loader but it looks like custom roms can happen via safestrap. My question is, when buying the phone used, is there a specific software version i DO NOT want? The goal is to root, safestrap and then put some sort of custom rom on the phone.
Thanks
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Currently you are good to go even on the latest NI2 update. You only need to downgrade the kernel to NCG via odin, run towel root, then reflash the newest NI2 kernel. There is a good write-up on it. Just look a few posts down.
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Currently you are good to go even on the latest NI2 update. You only need to downgrade the kernel to NCG via odin, run towel root, then reflash the newest NI2 kernel. There is a good write-up on it. Just look a few posts down.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm so excited to get off of the m8. The reception is terrible.
I also see that the dev scene looks pretty limited in the Verizon section. Is that because everything has been unified like the s4 so I can pretty much use any rom? AOsp, cm, etc
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Thanks for the reply. I'm so excited to get off of the m8. The reception is terrible.
I also see that the dev scene looks pretty limited in the Verizon section. Is that because everything has been unified like the s4 so I can pretty much use any rom? AOsp, cm, etc
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No, unfortunately, things are somewhat limited as the bootloader remains unlocked for the consumer edition so no custom kernels.
I think he meant to say the bootloader remains locked on the retail version.
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kclive said:
I think he meant to say the bootloader remains locked on the retail version.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Free mobile app
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thanks, you are correct :silly:
Since we have a mostly stable root... why are there only 2 custom roms??
After being locked out of my s6, I was so excited this phone had root... just don't understand
Anthrax79 said:
Since we have a mostly stable root... why are there only 2 custom roms??
After being locked out of my s6, I was so excited this phone had root... just don't understand
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Because there are not many options as we can only use stock 6.0.1 base with the locked bootloader that uses the engineering kernel. If we could use any kernel it would be a WAY different story.
Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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Anthrax79 said:
Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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Would give stang5litre a run man. Dude put a lot of work in it. Color just bout anything the way u want to. Smooth ass rom. Way smoother than stock rooted. Got a nice group of people come join
It could be worse....
Anthrax79 said:
Thanks for the insight. Did not realize the engineering kernel was so restricted. I came from an HTC one prior, and we had lots of roms based off the base kernel, but I am a jafu so my knowledge is limited.
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You COULD be stuck with a MTK tablet; the only MTK devices getting any love are phablets and phones for the most part (and those are mostly in the MEAR: Middle East, Asia, and Russia). My Lenovo A7-30F (not the A3000 or A3300) has two recoveries (one each for KitKat and Lollipop) and no custom ROMs at all; my GNex (which is far older) has more ROMs just for KitKat (let alone Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat).
The LG G3 was nice because there was an exploit (and it hasn't been patched to this day) that allows you to have what is called a "bumped" TWRP so you can flash all sorts of custom ROMs, including AOSP-based ROMs, as well as custom kernels. That was a nice feature of the LG G3 on VZW. Not sure why they never patched the exploit. I do miss those days, but I did stop rooting and such because I could still get really good battery life. Plus, Android Pay was a nice feature I liked using and now with the S7, I absolutely love Samsung Pay. Makes life so much easier when I check out not having to pull out my wallet, fumble and find the credit/debit card, swipe, etc. Just tap and pay! Nice!