I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
OhaiiDan said:
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
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I think you should be able to put custom roms even on those devices.
However, I think there's nothing like unlocked, international version of the device.
I wonder though whether Snapdragon is better than Exynos regarding this issue.
Anyway, good luck. I hope to read interesting opinions about this, as all I wrote here are just guesses.
AndroidDeveloperLB said:
I think you should be able to put custom roms even on those devices.
However, I think there's nothing like unlocked, international version of the device.
I wonder though whether Snapdragon is better than Exynos regarding this issue.
Anyway, good luck. I hope to read interesting opinions about this, as all I wrote here are just guesses.
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well I've seen custom roms on these devices, but the roms cannot be fully customizable like cyannogenmod. They have to be touch wiz based roms for them to be able to work on these devices.
OhaiiDan said:
I'm thinking of getting a S5, but I would like one that I could completely customize with Roms and everything. I currently just know that both AT&T and Verizon are locked at the bootloader. So I know I won't be able to use custom roms on those. But I am not complete sure about the other phones.
Help would be appreciated thanks in advance
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Stock rom with root and xposed framework will offer a ton of mods for you
i sold my 900a in favor of a 900f. locked bootloader meant no custom kernel.
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Hi
I just wanted to know where the new galaxy s 2 will likely be able to accept custom roms if a developer develops one for it.
Is this going to be possible folks?
thanks
I'd have presumed so. The bootloader is unlocked so I guess it's just a case of the right developers getting their own hands on the phone so they can work through the kinks.
Bootloader is not locked and kernel is unsigned so we can flash custom roms....just check the sgs2 dev section...once the devs port roms to sgs2 we can easily flash without difficulty
ranjb said:
Hi
I just wanted to know where the new galaxy s 2 will likely be able to accept custom roms if a developer develops one for it.
Is this going to be possible folks?
thanks
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There is no need to talk about rooting & custom roms this soon.
It has not even launched in most of the major markets.
Bootloader is unlocked same as with SGS,no problem in that regard but still enjoy the stock version till some custom roms come
android_master said:
There is no need to talk about rooting & custom roms this soon.
It has not even launched in most of the major markets.
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I would say the UK is a pretty big market...
Bring on the custom ROMs!
Hi I just got a new sprint Galaxy s4. I had a Samsung infuse 4g that I rooted and unlocked (which btw was hard to do for a newb way back then) but I never flashed a rom. To be honest I was afraid that I would destroy the phone. They are not cheap. I still have the infuse, so I guess I could practice flashing roms on that one but is it basically the same process? I just really really do not want to destroy my beautiful phone. Is it risky to flash ROMS or put other stuff in the phone? Thanks for the advice. This is an awesome site.
*Anything* you flash to your phone carries a risk (however minute) that it'll brick the device. The root method may be different, but for the most part ROM flashing is the same across any Android device.
IMPORTANT: Check your device model, since there are two variants of the Sprint S4 out there (SPH-L720 and SPH-L720T). The 720T doesn't work with all ROMs, and (last I checked) you lose the Spark connectivity, but 1x/3G/LTE will still work. I have one of the old models before Sprint started rolling out Spark, so I haven't really been keeping up with that part of it.
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Hi I just got a new sprint Galaxy s4. I had a Samsung infuse 4g that I rooted and unlocked (which btw was hard to do for a newb way back then) but I never flashed a rom. To be honest I was afraid that I would destroy the phone. They are not cheap. I still have the infuse, so I guess I could practice flashing roms on that one but is it basically the same process? I just really really do not want to destroy my beautiful phone. Is it risky to flash ROMS or put other stuff in the phone? Thanks for the advice. This is an awesome site.
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once you get the rooting done here is a great place to start looking for ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
cyberweasal said:
once you get the rooting done here is a great place to start looking for ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
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thanks for replying. I posted a question on the rooting thread regarding the s4. I was wondering about rooting it with my
Android version. I believe it's the latest but was not sure. Do you know if it's relatively safe to try that or are there issues like boot loops? Maybe I should leave well enough alone because I doubt I could fix a brick. These are really nice phones...thanks for your help
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thanks for replying. I posted a question on the rooting thread regarding the s4. I was wondering about rooting it with my
Android version. I believe it's the latest but was not sure. Do you know if it's relatively safe to try that or are there issues like boot loops? Maybe I should leave well enough alone because I doubt I could fix a brick. These are really nice phones...thanks for your help
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i had no problems. that being said. make sure you also have a stock rom down loaded on the phone or on a pc to fall back on, that way if you do boot loop you can just flash that. also once rooted make a backup!
you can root without doing a new rom or even choose a rom thats mostly stock with minimal changes its up to you how deep you go.
first thing if first once you root if you have KNOX you WILL flag the knox warranty count by 1 and that is not reversible yet.
good luck
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
No, still can't flash custom kernels
mjh68 said:
No, still can't flash custom kernels
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there are may subjects and threads on this matter. I realized that not everyone understands everything, but if you know enough to register on this site, you must know how to use the search function.
to sum up:
search before posting
for the time being s4 and above on verizon wont be able to run aosp roms*
*besides developers edition. (if you have to ask, you don't have one)
dogenut said:
Is their a cyanogenmod version that works for non developers editions of the verizon note. I just got my note 3 and without cyanogenmod it would stink.. has the bootloader been unlocked ?
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i did the same thing back in January and i'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing a lot more research first. samsung software has got to be the worst, thats why this phone has 3 gb ram. use towel root and at least get root access to shut half the ****ty software off. the custom roms for this phone are just rework versions of bloatwiz.
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
dogenut said:
That blows... has anyone been working on it ?
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The likelihood that our bootloader will even be unlocked or that any real development will go into kexec allowing us to flash custom kernels is probably close to 0%, meaning there will not be a cyanogenmod for retail N3.
However, if you are looking for a closer to AOSP rom check out Eclipse Rom. The dev has put much coding into the rom to make it feel like AOSP, it's not without its faults but what rom is perfect?
Also the devs for Alliance Rom have said they will be releasing an AOSP version in the future and many people are looking forward to that.
With practically any rom you will find yourself uninstalling a lot of bloatware unless you are one of the few who bought a Samsung device to use the proprietary software.
Either way, have fun.
Hi,
myself, being one happy Note 4 user, felt betrayed when Samsung locked the bootloader since COJ5 for Exynos variants, dunno about Qualcomm but I presume it's the same. Past this point we can't go back to whichever official (or custom for that matter) ROM, rendering our choices nonexistant. As far as I am concerned, we possess the phone thus we can do whatever we want, heck, I've paid a great sum of € for it! But samsung now says no-no. What gives? It isn't against the EULA afaik, and we have a crippled device now
Thoughts?
is the COK1 bootloader also locked ?
slit said:
Hi,
myself, being one happy Note 4 user, felt betrayed when Samsung locked the bootloader since COJ5 for Exynos variants, dunno about Qualcomm but I presume it's the same. Past this point we can't go back to whichever official (or custom for that matter) ROM, rendering our choices nonexistant. As far as I am concerned, we possess the phone thus we can do whatever we want, heck, I've paid a great sum of € for it! But samsung now says no-no. What gives? It isn't against the EULA afaik, and we have a crippled device now
Thoughts?
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How is it crippled besides the ability to go back ?
You can root, flash kernels, flash deodex stock ROMs. and custom ROMs ? What else is there? I don't understand.
I've tried both the COL2 and COL1 recent releases on Sammobile and while I can't revert back to an earlier firmware it has affected nothing in customizing my phone.
Yeah it sucks not being able to go back. It could suck a lot more.
Hey, thanks for replying!
dicksteele said:
How is it crippled besides the ability to go back ?
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Yeah, maybe I've got a little bit reactionary there, but
dicksteele said:
You can root, flash kernels, flash deodex stock ROMs. and custom ROMs ? What else is there? I don't understand.
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Well, for one I can't go back to Kit Kat, which was a completely different beast altogether...
dicksteele said:
I've tried both the COL2 and COL1 recent releases on Sammobile and while I can't revert back to an earlier firmware it has affected nothing in customizing my phone.
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I can't install viper4android (which I could with custom roms under the same bootloader but got into many other problems like cut-out audio for phone calls and 92% stuck battery when charging)
dicksteele said:
Yeah it sucks not being able to go back. It could suck a lot more.
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It does, and as I said maybe I was a bit over the top, but I'm expecting someone to crack this useless feature. What's the point anyways?
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Hey, thanks for replying!
Yeah, maybe I've got a little bit reactionary there, but
Well, for one I can't go back to Kit Kat, which was a completely different beast altogether...
I can't install viper4android (which I could with custom roms under the same bootloader but got into many other problems like cut-out audio for phone calls and 92% stuck battery when charging)
It does, and as I said maybe I was a bit over the top, but I'm expecting someone to crack this useless feature. What's the point anyways?
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I found this is a good base here for the N910C
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/rom-note-4-mod-t3244665
Flash TWRP via ODIN. Root and custom kernel via TWRP, then make a backup.
I haven't messed with Viper in a while. Been trying the other audio mods.
I'll see what I can find. I've got a COL2 deodex ROM built. Messing with other tweaks.
I've messed with a v4a mod and finally got it working on stock COJ5 with root. Now everything's working fine and savvy. Thanks for the assistance though!
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
KaboneIsLegend said:
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
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Nope. We can still have custom roms but we're just stuck with the one kernel required for root.
KaboneIsLegend said:
I know this question has been asked, and have been searching around the forums, but everything I am seeing says the reason that there are no real custom roms for this device is because the Bootloader is locked.. In my developer options on my device I am given the choice to enable OEM Unlock. Will this allow me to bypass the issues others are having? My Goal is to eventually learn what needs to be done so I can create my own rom or take a stock debloated rom and customize it completely to an end result I am happy with including UI/apps etc..
Thanks,
KaboneIsLegend
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Bootloader is still locked. As of right now there is no way to unlock it so there is no way to have a custom ROM.
If you look at the development thread, you can see the options. One is a mod of the OEM ROM (PD8 only), but the other two are ROMs - on bade on 935U (echoe) and the other is a cleaned up modified Stock ROM.
With the locked bootloader you can only flash signed by Samsung ROMs - so no ASOP, CMxx ROMs. But by taking a stock ROM or the exiting unbloated one (with permission if you want to post your ROM - which would be welcome) it is something you can do right now (after you are rooted of course).
We also don't have custom recoveries, but flashing and backing up with FlashFire works pretty good, so go for it !
Binary100100 said:
Nope. We can still have custom roms but we're just stuck with the one kernel required for root.
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Your talking the engineering boot.img ?
ShrekOpher said:
Bootloader is still locked. As of right now there is no way to unlock it so there is no way to have a custom ROM.
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No way to force this?
gaww said:
If you look at the development thread, you can see the options. One is a mod of the OEM ROM (PD8 only), but the other two are ROMs - on bade on 935U (echoe) and the other is a cleaned up modified Stock ROM.
With the locked bootloader you can only flash signed by Samsung ROMs - so no ASOP, CMxx ROMs. But by taking a stock ROM or the exiting unbloated one (with permission if you want to post your ROM - which would be welcome) it is something you can do right now (after you are rooted of course).
We also don't have custom recoveries, but flashing and backing up with FlashFire works pretty good, so go for it !
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I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can we fake signing? Also where would I need to go to research what needs to be done to remove the locked bootloader for my specific device? Maybe I can contribute something towards helping this get done. Are there any places people have shared their research?
Thanks guys for the awesome replies
KaboneIsLegend said:
I'm sure I know the answer to this, but can we fake signing? Also where would I need to go to research what needs to be done to remove the locked bootloader for my specific device? Maybe I can contribute something towards helping this get done. Are there any places people have shared their research?
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People have been working on this since the device launched back in March. As far as I know, the files are cryptographically signed by Samsung, and the only way to bypass that is to find some kind of security exploit. As of yet, it hasn't been done. The leaked engineering kernel is basically the only known path at the moment to step outside of Samsung's locked down system.
andrewNY said:
People have been working on this since the device launched back in March. As far as I know, the files are cryptographically signed by Samsung, and the only way to bypass that is to find some kind of security exploit. As of yet, it hasn't been done. The leaked engineering kernel is basically the only known path at the moment to step outside of Samsung's locked down system.
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Alright I will look into this then. I'm new to the android scene, but have experience with disassembly for applications, and reverse engineering for the older video game consoles. So why is there an option to oem unlock the phone if it doesn't really do that?
KaboneIsLegend said:
Alright I will look into this then. I'm new to the android scene, but have experience with disassembly for applications, and reverse engineering for the older video game consoles. So why is there an option to oem unlock the phone if it doesn't really do that?
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Because not all variants have a locked bootloader. Just the US Qualcomm versions.
Binary100100 said:
Because not all variants have a locked bootloader. Just the US Qualcomm versions.
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Thanks for that. I understand now.
We are rooted only because of the engineering bootloader. Stupid question time - with the problems with the kernel which are only partially fixed, ccouyld the kernel inself be modified or would it then be blocked by the bootloader.
There may custom kernels out there that would not work on a locked bootloader, but is the engineering kernel possibly open to modifications?